Broken wrist at school

[Magic]

None of the girls in any of my schools were asked to do PE in their under clothes ever.
Cannot remember about the infants.
The only thing I can remember is no one ever did have to do PE in their underwear.
The 15 year old who started this thread maybe cannot talk to her parents!!!!!
The school that Terry mentioned in Telford should be investigated further.
It's downright disgraceful.

[Nikki02]

If this case is true, the school in question has failed and breached two major areas in its duty of care it has for every pupil:

1. Forcing a pupil who has an injury - in this case a "broken wrist" in a cast - to participate in a PE class and exposing them to further injury.

2. Forcing a pupil of pubescent age to participate in a PE class in their "underwear", thereby exposing them to ridicule and/or verbal abuse, sexual discrimination/harassment and humiliation.

Furthermore, the OP says her knickers were "skimpy" which further implies a highly inappropriate sexualised slant to this. I would expect the school to be in a lot of shit, whether this has happened once or a 100 times, and I'm sure any parent would be justifiably outraged too. I would.

What do you mean by sexualised? Anyone who doesn't have their kit does it in their underwear - I wasn't wearing anything particularly 'skimpy'

[ServerError]

Look, there's nothing appropriate or right about making 15 year old girls (or boys) do a PE lesson in their underwear. It sounds downright sinister. I had no idea it goes on and am shocked to hear it does. I find it really hard to believe it's legal.

Please find somebody you trust who can approach the school about this.

[Nikki02]

Doing PE with a cast on your arm and in bra and pants at age 15? In any school let alone a mixed school.
I don't believe it sorry .
Actually at any age

Its true. If we don't have our kit they make girls do gym or swimming in vest/bra and knickers - for boys its just boxers /pants. Outdoor PE its shirt or jumper and pants

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Look, there's nothing appropriate or right about making 15 year old girls (or boys) do a PE lesson in their underwear. It sounds downright sinister. I had no idea it goes on and am shocked to hear it does. I find it really hard to believe it's legal.

Please find somebody you trust who can approach the school about this.

I'll just make sure I've always got my PE kit on PE days!

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I'm surprised Admin haven't moved this thread to a more relevant board, perhaps one less "animated"

I wasn't sure which board to post it on, so if someone can move it to a better one?

[KK77]

What do you mean by sexualised? Anyone who doesn't have their kit does it in their underwear - I wasn't wearing anything particularly 'skimpy'

See below...

Obviously a 7 year old is going to be wearing a vest rather than a bra like I was, and I doubt her knickers were as skimpy as mine were. I certainly will be wearing more modest knickers to school in the future!

[Nikki02]

See below...

What I meant was a 7 year old's underwear isn't going to be the same as a teenager's. I wasn't wearing a thong or anything!

[KK77]

What I meant was a 7 year old's underwear isn't going to be the same as a teenager's. I wasn't wearing a thong or anything!

Have you told your parents yet?

[Phuzella]

Outdoor PE in jumper and pants? ! Swimming in underwear? !.

[swajj]

I think you missed my question. Why can’t you tell your parents?

Also if you name the school then you don’t have to do anything about it. Someone else will.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Naming the school on here won't mean anyone follows anything up. A complaint needs to be made through the proper channels, unless someone is banking on a journo wanting to dig around about it (maybe they will but this is a small forum so will it ever be seen?). The issue needs to be proven.

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What I meant was a 7 year old's underwear isn't going to be the same as a teenager's. I wasn't wearing a thong or anything!

Nikki,

I think we all understand this but putting a 15 year old girl in front of 15 year old boys means they have thoughts about you. They are viewing areas of your body that they would not normally and shouldn't either. Even in swimming I'm assuming girls still wear costumers and don't swim in bikinis?!!! Kids talk, make fun of others. It's a situation that can easily lead to bullying or inappropriate sexual behaviour.

There is also the matter of teachers. I would have a serious issue with adult males looking at 15 year old girls in their underwear. Imagine a male teacher walking in on you in the changing room? That would be highly inappropriate and a matter fir disciplinary investigation, if not criminal investigation.

I'm very sure any parent would have a problem with teenage boys leering over their daughter. You wouldn't be asked to strip in a maths class because it would become sexualised as KK says.

And any adult would have a major problem with adult teachers, male & female, looking at 15 year old girls in their underwear. If you took that image to a form of media, say a photo on the internet, that would become child porn and a matter for criminal investigation.

A male teacher seeing a child at primary school in their pants in PE would raise some serious eyebrows these days as we've moved on from the old days where society didn't think much about such things in schools.

It may be legal, but it's still nuts. It's a high profile media case in the making.

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None of the girls in any of my schools were asked to do PE in their under clothes ever.
Cannot remember about the infants.
The only thing I can remember is no one ever did have to do PE in their underwear.
The 15 year old who started this thread maybe cannot talk to her parents!!!!!
The school that Terry mentioned in Telford should be investigated further.
It's downright disgraceful.

We used to have spare kits too but they used to go missing. They should have charged the parents who didn't bring them back in my opinion.

Yep, that school should have a massive kick up the backside. Sadly, as they say, there is no national guidance therefore it sounds like those in charge of national governance, and LA's, are happy to point the finger at each other and nothing really happens.

I find it utterly weird that this is still going on given how awareness of sexual abuse, paedophilia, etc has grown in recent decades. If I was a teacher I wouldn't want to open myself up to an issue over this, especially being male although female sexual abusers exist in lower numbers.