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    Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    I found this on another forum and thought I would post it as I think it is an interesting view of depersonalisation. I don't agree with all of it but the majority seems fairly sensible:

    recovery

    by eddy1987 on Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:35 pm

    Well this post was changed from another subject to this as it seems to be a hot topic at the moment and I am going to be very honest about depersonalisation here and try and help people who are still bewildered by it. I will hold nothing back and tell my whole story and the truth behind it.

    Firstly lets just refresh ourselves with Depersonalisation and why we have it.

    Lets start by saying that D.P is not just an anxiety symptom. I have read a hell of a lot on the subject and people who have been to war can suffer. People who have lost a love one can suffer temporary from it. People who had something happen to them early in their life, that really hurt or shocked them can suffer bouts of D.P. Many people who don’t suffer from anxiety have D.P, although I would say anxiety would be the main reason. So lets go back to person who went to war and saw things that shocked him and he would rather forget. D.P is his bodies way of shutting down these memorys and feelings, to block them out and protect him. Of course these are isolated cases, but they do happen and I have read of a few cases. The second where someone may have lost a loved one, have you ever seen that blank look, as though they are not really listening, they are somewhere else. Again a few people who have lost loved ones can have temporary D.P. It is again the bodies way of protecting them from all the hurt and worry and just like anxiety sufferers they may begin to think very deeply. Once the hurt and pain weakens, they tend to become their old selves again and the D.P leaves them. The D.P is not needed to protect them from all the hurt and pain anymore. The last one where someone may have had something happen to them earlier in their life. Again they may get bouts of D.P to surpress these memories, to shut out the hurt.

    Now lets move on to anxiety and why people suffer with D.P, and why it is only natural that you will. I had anxiety for about two years before I had any symptoms of D.P. I showed no symptoms at all, until how I felt bothered me more and more. I was been moved from one doctor to another and nothing was working. This was about the time I thought I will have to figure it out for myself. So I worried daily about how I felt, spent 12 hours a day trying to figure a way out of this mess, spent my whole day feeling sorry for myself, on the verge of tears at every waking moment. Day after day this went on, until one day I went home and as I was stroking my dog I felt as though I was not really there, my vision seemed blurred and I had no idea what was happening. What happened that day is my body said enough is enough, I cannot take this worry and deep thinking anymore and to protect me, and you, I have to shut your emotions down. And it did, I could feel no emotions, no happiness, no joy, the whole world went grey and lifeless and I seemed to become a walking shell. Of course it makes sense to me now that my body was protecting me. But what happened then is I began to worry about this new symptom, tried to figure not only the anxiety but this new sensation of feeling lost and empty. What was happening to me? I was more bewildered than ever. I spent my time now getting worse, I really had entered the cycle that would pull me in deeper. If I had known or been taught about D.P before I suffered then I would have known the reason why it was happening and would not have wasted years trying to figure it out or worrying about it daily, sinking deeper and deeper into the condition.

    You see that is why people with anxiety devolp D.P, it is all the worrying and deep thinking about the intial anxiety that brings on the D.P. There is no more explaining needed to be done and this is the reason why. You are not unique and it just shows how popular this subject is and how many people who suffer with anxiety go on to develop D.P. It is the number one thing talked about on here and I receive more emails about it than any other symptom.

    So how did I come through my own D.P?

    Well before I give a list of things that saw me through, I want to say to everyone and be honest……

    It did take a while, there are no quick fixes.

    D.P left me when it realised that it was no longer needed. When would this be? When I stopped the deep thinking (trying to figure it all out) When I stopped the daily worrying and feeling sorry for myself. While I was in this cycle, nothing was going to change, it makes total sense that while I did worry and obsess, then my body would carry on protecting me, more worry, more need to protect. Only when this was reversed would it ease. Now a lot of habits had built up and yes worrying and obsessing had become a habit, but I allowed this habit to be there, but I added no more worry and stopped trying to figure it all out daily, what would be would be. The attention was on me for a while and D.P was still very strong, but I decided and I mean from the pit of my stomach to live with this for the time being and question it NO MORE, pay it NO MIND. Not do this for a week and think ‘Oh it has not gone I must try and fix it’ or start questioning it all over again ‘Oh should I do something about it, its still there, what if its something else’ or feel sorry for myself ‘Oh I hate this, why wont it go away’ All this stopped and I TRULY accepted this feeling and understood that it was my bodies way of protecting me and I had no control over it, so it was better just to get on with my life. This is what a lot of people do, they accept it for a week or so and then become frustrted with it again or begin to question it all over again, they have never really accepted this feeling, more just put up with it. I never even thought about recovery, I just gave up and stopped worrying or fighting, questioning the feeling anymore and recovery came to me. I always say that, don’t go searching for recovery, your body will bring it to you, if you step out of the way and let it.

    Here is a list of other things that really help me and I would always advise with D.P

    Exercise

    This is a great way of clearing the cobwebs, burning off excess adrenalin, giving you another focus to your day, if you go running outdoors, having a dose of nature. I found this very beneficial.

    Keeping away from forums and studying the subject daily.

    I run this blog as I think it is great for support and the odd bit of advice. I don’t like forums, as people on there tend to wallow in the subject, drown themselves in it, trying to find that miracle answer. They end up mostly feeling worse and the subject just becomes their day. I took breaks from the subject all the time and stopped doing the google search daily. I knew to begin to feel like my old self I had to pack in as much normal living as possible. Doing normal things makes you feel part of the outside world again. I always tried to live as normal life as possible and never let how I feel stop me. Not always easy, but I am so glad I did as normallity seemed to overwrite my years of sufffering in time.

    Stop obsessing and worrying, trust in yourself.

    Pay this feeling no mind and this means truly just get on with your day however you feel. You are not going crazy and this feeling will go when your body feels it is no longer needed. No matter how long you have suffered with this feeling, it will pass and does no long term harm at all. Trust in what I say and trust in your own bodies natural healing system. I keep saying it, but I was worse than most who come on here. My D.P was so bad I could not hold a conversation and I came through. I don’t have one symptom now, my mind can feel a little tired at times, but I have no symptoms of D.P at all and trust me EVERYONE’S body is the same and reacts the same. I can only give advice, I cannot make people follow it and that’s the sad thing. People do believe they have something else and go down the worry cycle again, people do believe their must be a quick fix somewhere and begin to go on their merry search again. Someone once emailed me and said ‘I have read your book but my D.P is still there’ I mean did they read the same book that told them it would take time? No, again they wanted the quick answer, the miracle cure that does not exist.

    I hope the above helps people and really do and try and take it on board.
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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    WOW hun What great info.

    It can be soooo DAME hard to explain how to get rid of this symptom, we do tend to say, just let it be there, but this is a great explanation and I am sure it will help people who suffer with this to understand things a little more.

    Thank you for taking the time to post this

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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    Hey there Jill Glad you liked it, I did pinch it off another forum though so can't take credit! But I particularly like how the author theorises that you ask those philosophical questions of yourself and are scared of them because there is nowhere else for your excess fear/anxiety to go so it is directed inward........as this was one thing that was troubling me personally quite a bit.
    It is SO hard to accept, I keep saying to myself 'right I am just going to live with it' then two minutes later I find myself trying to think myself better again! Very frustrating!

    PS) Big right back at you!
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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    Hi there Pippage, That is really good. Thanks for posting it. I have had more than my fair share of DP over the years and knew a bit about it, having read Paul Davids website and book etc but its good to read someone elses thoughts on it too. So many thanks for that. The bit that "struck me" was the bit about if we carry on worrying and obsessing, then our bodies will carry on protecting us, so best to just accept and get on with our days as much as possible, no matter how we feel.

    I have been getting on with my day as much as possible, just recently and I am pleased to say that I have now discovered I can go into town on the bus! I have used it 3 times this week. I had not been on a bus (apart from once in May) since summer last year!! I always went in the car, then I would have a den to hide in if I felt rough!! But finally I have been in town without my den and I was ok. So I am getting there.

    Thanks again.
    Speak soon
    Shirley

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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    Good news Shirley!

    Yes it does make sense that the more you worry/stress the more your brain will protect you.
    Gonna make attempt #2193847205981010 to just 'be' and stop twisting my head inside out!
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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    Hi Pippage, You must have posted only minutes ago. I think I have made as many attempts as you at just being and stopping twisting my head inside out!! One thing is for sure, I have coped, no, AM COPING better now and would not have attempted the bus into town if I had not have been. I am getting there, slowly but surely. I will join you with your attempt no. #2193847205981010 at just being etc.

    Chat soon ( My daughter is on the comp tonight from approx 7pm till 9pm)

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    Hi Pippage, Just been out with hubby and the kids today to a garden centre about 30 miles away to see their Xmas display. I was in a DP state. About 4 on a level of one to 10. But I thought of you and told myself to just "be" and not to make a fuss and get annoyed with it for the above mentioned reasons. I told myself that I was ok and that I didnt need to query any of it, I would be fine. And I was fine. So I must keep this approach going, especially as I have been doing well lately. I hope you are ok this weekend Pippage and are just "being". Speak soon. Shirley

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    Hi Pippage,
    Thank you so much for the post. I have had DP on and off for about 4 years. I agree that you have to just accept it and not just for a week and start the cycle again. You have to truly accept it.

    Hi Shirley,
    Glad to hear you have been doing really well. Sometimes it is hard to see our own progress, but I have seen it and you have come a long way. I sent you a PM.
    Talk to you soon.
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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    I've been buoying myself today by thinking 'my brain is just protecting me' re: the DP. It has helped somewhat
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    Re: Interesting view on Depersonalisation

    Yes thats a good thought Pippage. I was in town for 4 hours today with the DP. I must remember that one, "My brain is just protecting me". Back soon.
    Shirley

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