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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    With all respect, you don't have a clue what I think.

    I am commenting specifically on the situation that the OP has posted about, and not yours or anyone elses.

    The question was...

    ...is valium the only thing that helps??
    ...in relation to anxiety disorder.

    My answer is that it does more long-term damage for anxiety sufferers than good, and only provides temporary relief. If you take valium as medication for your anxiety you are putting out a fire today and creating a bigger one for tomorrow.

    If it had no use at all it wouldn't be prescribed. But there is a key reason why people with anxiety only get prescribed short-term amounts.

    ---------- Post added at 18:48 ---------- Previous post was at 18:30 ----------

    Sorry if that comes across as harsh, or negative.

    I just really don't think its good to be singing the praises of valium for anxiety when it comes with such a serious drawback.

    Tolerance and dependence being one, and trying to get off valium being a bigger problem than any anxiety will ever create.
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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    I'm not singing its praises, SLA. Far from it. I'm saying that used appropriately and as a one-off medication in crisis situations it has its place. I would definitely not take it regularly-I appreciate how addictive it is. Just once in a blue moon for me.

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    I sympathise with everyone here. Valium etc. are effective and quick, and can seem like life-savers at the time. But they don't solve the underlying problem, and they get less effective over time the more you use them.

    I had panic attacks years ago, and a GP reluctantly gave me 10 for emergency use only. I responded to ADs shortly after, but it was nice to know they were there. The 10 ended up lasting me 9 years! If possible, this is a good way of having them - a reassurance they are there. But they cannot be a replacement for proper therapy, which is usually most effective when a combination of a SSRI or similar AD and CBT or similar.

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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    I was prescribed it for really rough panic attacks, few times I was seconds away from phoning the ambulance. Recently though I've just found myself taking it when I feel ever so anxious just so I don't get to the panic attack point.

    I'm not on a massive dose like I said in my original post, wouldn't even say I take it every day, although due to it's long half life I don't think I could tell you the last time I haven't had any Valium in my system. Past couple days I haven't needed it and when I do think I need it, I'm just gonna fight it and not take any

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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    Quote Originally Posted by panic_down_under View Post
    I'm surprised you were prescribed diazepam. I thought benzodiazepines (BZDs) were considered Satan's spawn by the NHS. And that is probably the biggest issue with BZDs, the fact there is no guarantee you will find a doctor willing to prescribe them tomorrow. Even if yours is, s/he may change his mind, move, or fall under the proverbial bus and the replacement may be far less willing.

    Antidepressants and/or therapy can be at least as effective as BZDs and are the better treatment options.
    Not at all, that's just the kind of thing you may see from non official sources though.

    NICE are clear in recommending them in the short term and also very clear why they can't be used.

    It's not that hard to get Diazepam from a GP, but beyond 2 weeks it does get very hard as they are moving into the realms of specialist treatment which they are not licensed to provide.
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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    SLA

    I'm sure Magic knows full well that anxiety is hard and harder the longer it goes on.

    And I know pulisa well enough from many discussions, including about meds, to know that whilst she doesn't feel meds are right for her now, she looks at other people's situations with an open mind to offer advice that is neutral. She doesn't put people off due to her own experience or promote meds.

    No one has promoted Benzo's here. And anyway, they are not the only ones to be concerned about when you consider the dangers of anti psychotics, some of which are permanent and one is a bad condition.

    It's not about least resistance. They are useful. Anti med anxiety sufferers will say not to use any med simply because they are plasters.

    Whether Benzo addiction is far worse than anxiety disorders, I think I would disagree on that one since these disorders can be severe and people come off Benzo's often quicker. That's probably subjective unless we have some facts to look at?
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    Thanks for the support, Terry. I do think diazepam has a place in the management of entrenched anxiety disorders but only when used appropriately and sparingly.

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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    Thank you Terry and pulisa, just wanted to say thatxx
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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    Whether Benzo addiction is far worse than anxiety disorders, I think I would disagree on that one since these disorders can be severe and people come off Benzo's often quicker.
    Dangerous words in my opinion.

    If you have an addiction to valium, you still have an anxiety disorder. You have just suppressed the symptoms.

    You are not substituting one for the other, you are adding one on top.

    You build up a tolerance, and become dependant on a drug. You do not in anyway solve your anxiety problem. And by some accounts you can set yourself up for a very hellish experience. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v...om-than-heroin

    I have never, and never will, say that valium doesn't have a use. But as always, I am answering the OP in this instance, and others can throw in there tupence worth if they want, thats fine.

    The question is...

    is valium the only thing that helps??
    And the answer is a resounding "NO!"

    And I defy anyone to answer that question differently.
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    Re: valium the only thing that helps??

    Quote Originally Posted by SLA View Post
    Dangerous words in my opinion.

    If you have an addiction to valium, you still have an anxiety disorder. You have just suppressed the symptoms.

    You are not substituting one for the other, you are adding one on top.

    You build up a tolerance, and become dependant on a drug. You do not in anyway solve your anxiety problem. And by some accounts you can set yourself up for a very hellish experience. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v...om-than-heroin

    I have never, and never will, say that valium doesn't have a use. But as always, I am answering the OP in this instance, and others can throw in there tupence worth if they want, thats fine.

    The question is...



    And the answer is a resounding "NO!"

    And I defy anyone to answer that question differently.
    Not in my opinion. I think it's an overreaction to even suggest that. I'm well aware of the withdrawal issue but that still isn't evidence that it is worse. If it has to be then I would question why there are Benzo withdrawers at home doing it and anxiety sufferers under sectioning orders.

    No one is saying it is the only treatment or even the best treatment, only you brought that up and I don't see why you are continuing to flog it to people who already understand this?
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