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20-11-09, 14:50
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wake up (only if you want to).
I made the decision to leave this site about a month ago, as I was insulted for my beliefs on here. Mainly focusing on the fact that the correct way to defeat anxiety is to do absolutely nothing about it directly. To paraphrase myself, the answer is “….”.
You cannot defeat anxiety by focusing on it.
Since then I have not been lurking but I have been thinking about many things, sometimes about anxiety but mainly about a far far bigger picture. I have posted on themes such as anxiety is “merely energy”, other ‘coping’ mechanisms, the ‘extinction’ response, acceptance, fighting it, not fighting it, etc etc etc.
I cannot sit here with all my knowledge as thousand of people suffer needlessly without ‘helping’ some more.
The one characteristic common to all anxiety sufferers is sensitivity, this sensitivity is borne out of huge impulse or desire of all sufferers to see a goodness in the world.
A goodness to each other and a goodness to ourselves.
How is it logical that this ‘oh so’ inaccurately titled ‘disease of the mind’ affects the most benevolent and good of our society? Where as at the same time, those who swan around without a care for others never experience such a ‘nightmare’. It 'seems' so unfair.
There are two fears:
Fear of death,
Fear of insanity.
Death is nothing of the sort, death is the transition of biological life to eternal love.
Insanity is nothing of the sort, insanity does not exist, it is merely the perceived distance from social acceptability.
If you are ever fearfully wondering whether a symptom of anxiety is anxiety or something else, the fear is proof that it is anxiety.
There is nothing wrong with your body,
There is nothing wrong with your mind,
There is nothing wrong with your soul/spirit/energy
Good and evil do exist. Anxiety sufferers are good (people-persons, those who care, etc etc)… fact.
Good always wins, it has a higher energy.
The whole anxiety conundrum/paradox (call it what you like), is merely a question of energy.
We are energised to a high degree (that is all that is going on, nothing more), and it scares us. Why should it scare us? We should be invigorated by it!! It is a gift, bestowed upon us not to use intelligently but to use wisely.
Energy cannot be destroyed.
Everything is energy, science, and religion spirituality, philosophy, psychology all teach us this.
How to use your energy positively:
Firstly, forgive you self if you feel you need to, but the reality is that there is nothing for you to forgive.
Secondly wake up and assume responsibility for your own life, your own energy. Use it to benefit others and it will benefit you.
Use it through a smile, a gesture, use it for through to free provision of positive advice, every symptom is just energy, all energy can be converted to love.
Negative projection of energy by anxiety affects others negatively.
What I am saying is “If you can’t do it for yourself, then do it for others”.
Can you feel that resonating?
Positive projection of energy results in clarity of thought, lucidity vision and a calmness of being, in you and in others.
I make no apologies for my opinions/knowledge, and urge you to make the choice to take the advice only if you want to. If you don't then that's fine.
Anxiety is merely one tiny outlet of energy. There are millions more.
Choose an obsession with enough intricacy to match your incredible abilities in positive creation.
Anxiety is merely a road, there are thousand of other roads, millions of other paths. At the end of each of these roads is one simple truth.
Fear begets fear.
Love begets love.
I love you all.
... and I promise you this ... there is absolutely nothing to fear.
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20-11-09, 16:55
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
Thanks for caring enough to return to share your views with us Chris. I feel I am 80% better thanks to the great Dr Weekes, so I found my belief system (though one based on science and medicine) through NMP. There are others just arriving on the site who are as frightened and bewildered as I was two years ago, and I do not intend to leave while I can offer support to these people. I have also made some valuable friendships here.
I would agree with the majority of your advice but it is important to realise that people with sensitised nerves may be in no fit state to contemplate being able to ignore these aweful symptoms, and reach the level of enlightenment that you have. I needed some hand holding back then by people who understood and am very greatful to have found that here. I wish you well. Take care Chris.
Veronica
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20-11-09, 20:34
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
wow all that sounds simple but i have anxiety / panic attacks constantly i don`t mean like one every few hours i mean it is never ending , i cannot break the cycle because i get no time to actually think properly about what is going on inside of me , i live with constant headaches , dizziness , palputations , shaking hands , constantly tired , too scared to go out on my own or for more than 30 minutes , just to be rid of any one of these would be a god send , but i now realise it will never happen i`m stuck like this
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20-11-09, 20:50
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
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Originally Posted by mrmerlin
wow all that sounds simple but i have anxiety / panic attacks constantly i don`t mean like one every few hours i mean it is never ending , i cannot break the cycle because i get no time to actually think properly about what is going on inside of me , i live with constant headaches , dizziness , palputations , shaking hands , constantly tired , too scared to go out on my own or for more than 30 minutes , just to be rid of any one of these would be a god send , but i now realise it will never happen i`m stuck like this
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The psychology is simple, the application is difficult. I had constant anxiety in the same way you describe and I mean constant, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being panic, I was at 9 all day apart from 5-20 times per day when i would be at 10. Occasionally on 'good' days I was at 8. You are not alone, you are not unique, you will get over it.
Not one of your symptoms or their combination is harmful in any way, you will get better, you will emerge into the light of relaxation, recovery is inevitable of this fact have no doubt.
Do not crave relaxation and look for proof, just accept fear and realise that it is all a con.
This is the most accurate quote for the anxiety sufferer I have ever found ...
" It doesn't matter how long we may have been stuck in a sense of our limitations. If we go into a darkened room and turn on the light, it doesn't matter if the room has been dark for a day, a week, or ten thousand years - we turn on the light and it is illuminated. Once we control our capacity for love and happiness, the light has been turned on." .... Sharon Salzberg
Never a truer word spoken.
My best advice is this "the only inevitability of anxiety is recovery"
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20-11-09, 22:13
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
Hi,
Interesting reading..I too have my opinions on the things you wrote about here. Sometimes I express them and sometimes I don't . I have in the past and certainly would not leave this site unless made to..Nicola has been kind of enough to tolerate much of my rants and ravings ..and to tell me not to apologize even when I know that I may have said some things that offended someone. She is a very kind person and tolerant.
I too have ranted and raved when comments have come my way, its because I sometimes wear my feelings on my sleeve and take things the wrong way. I also have anxiety which sometimes causes us to over analyze everything but I sure have never let me make me leave here.
This site has been somewhat of a salvation for me ,sometimes I haven't been here in a few years because I handled my anxiety and feelings on my own or was busy dealing with other things.. But as long as you aren't taking things out on some of the other members or belittling them or saying nasty things... I think that you will remain here even when you express things that others may or not believe , It really doesn't matter..
That is one of the greatest things I love about this site..It seems that everyone is entitled to an opinion and most welcome ideas and thoughts about this life and what it means and things that are important, but when others don't agree or voice that they do not agree don't take it personally .
Like I said everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have many myself , maybe not some I would share here and there are many that I hear by religious figures and scientist alike that i just shake my head and think how stupid I thought their comments were but well many ideas and thoughts that I hear from these people as well make sense.. You might not ever hear it from anyone to tell you they liked what you said or it made sense but you can bet there are others that feel exactly the same.
When posting ,post what is on your mind.. don't worry about comments of others.. If nothing else this site has provided a wonderful place to express yourself and people like ourselves have the tendency to be vocal on things ,sometimes they can sound wonderful others not so wonderful but at least we have a place that is provided where thoughts and worries can be expressed and for that Im eternally greatfull but please don't let anyone run you off.
Stay and contribute and I enjoy reading what you have to say ... and others probably do as well.. Unless the owners or people that put this site together has a problem with what you are saying. .Then please keep posting .. We are glad you are here and hope you will continue to be here.
As I said im sure many of the things I have posted in the past hasn't been popular but I wasn't posting to be popular. The things were on my mind and I wrote about them. I also have offered opinions on subjects that were not what people wanted to hear and I heard about it later but thank goodness I keep being let on to write.
So stay and don't be offended by anyone., If the administration has a problem with you they will ask you to leave but they are very kind and tolerant but always keep in mind to stay within boundaries and not try to hurt anyone's feelings ,after all we all have the same rights on here and your's is just important as anyone else's . It seems from your post you have some really interesting input, Please continue . Michael
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20-11-09, 22:33
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
Thank you.
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20-11-09, 23:55
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
I'll be the first to admit! I'm am lazy about my anxiety , for lots of reasons, fear, depression, but its my fault as i do not put the effort in! i have great intentions to fight it but then i just loose my motivation!
i wish i had someone to push me , but i know damn well i need to push my self.
its just so natural to avoid fear, situations that make you fearful.
the only way out? is to face your fears even if its just little by little.
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20-11-09, 23:56
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
C chris, The psychology is simple, the application is difficult.
Boy do I know :-(
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21-11-09, 00:02
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
I was lucky, my anxiety was total and constant unbearable panic with no safe zones and a fear of everything that existed, I had no choice but to adopt an attitude of acceptance. Fear forced my hand into beating it into dust.
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21-11-09, 00:27
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Re: wake up (only if you want to).
Sorry but this post has annoyed me
It aint that simple
Ive got better but Ive stuck around to help others not just dropped in with patronising comments
Kaz
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