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sandy40
26-08-11, 16:46
As most of you know im very worried about my heart...anyway i was at my gps today and he was reading some of my A&E reports and he said one of my ecgs showed a little "something" and that the A&E drs got the cardiololgists to look at it but they were fine with it so its ok...i was never told this before and now im really worried,i sat in shock and ive been crying every since...ive constant chest pain and tightness and this has totally messed me up.Id been told all my egcs were fine and now this.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 16:49
Hi. The pains are anxiety hun really. You need a referall for help with the anxiety as its getting out of hand- an ecg showeed something and you said it was checked. youve had about 8 i beleive now so you are ok. youve also had blood works done- you are ok

Gemma T
26-08-11, 16:54
Please try not to let this rule you. They saw a glip got the specialist to check and it turned out to be nothing. Please dont worry. Your perfectly healthy. I agree and think you will really benefit from some theraphy now. Dont let this be what your about x x x

sandy40
26-08-11, 16:57
But what could the something be that whats shown...i never even asked the doctor i just wanted out,how silly of me.

Andyreww
26-08-11, 17:25
Maybe you've a slightly leaking heart valve? I had one and it actually healed up through childhood, never caused me any trouble at all. didn't even notice I had it.

sandy40
26-08-11, 17:27
would that give me all this pain and discomfort?

Andyreww
26-08-11, 17:31
It can do, but I'd say the pain and discomfort is due to the worry, seriously, the adrealine flowing through your body heightens every sense that you feel, so with all that added adrenaline you are ready to fight or flight, makes you start imagining things aswell (not that you are) If it was checked by a cardiologist then I'd be certain you are 100% if it was something to worry about you'd have alot of medication to deal with it

you're fine love, stop worrying and have fun, I've a granny whos had 2 major heart operations and enjoys every day, if you're still not happy keep going back to the doctors, stress puts alot of strain on your heart, so it could be you stressing out, I've had ECG's done every 3 years since I was 0 years of age :P sometimes they dont get great readings, so they may see a blip, It's 100% nothing to worry about, I promise you :)

Em.ma
26-08-11, 17:32
would that give me all this pain and discomfort?
Stop looking for things to be wrong. This is nothing honestly x

sandy40
26-08-11, 17:38
I know you are all sick of me and i dont blame you,infact im amazed anyone still replies to me anymore. But im so sore and the chest sensations...palps/tightness/pain is more or less constant now,why dont the drs at A&E keep me in for more tests.I saw the hypnotherapy guy today,i told him everything,i see him again in 2 weeks for my first session..i dont think i can wait that long but thats the nearest he can see me.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 17:40
they dont keep u in cause its anxiety causing the pain and there are people that need these tests- money is tight on the NHS they cant just send everyone of for tests if they dont think there is a genuine reason to do- its constant cause u worry about it. I dont know what else to say hun other than u dont need tests u need help with the anxiety. good luck and best wishes

s11fyx
26-08-11, 18:14
Stop looking for things to worry about it will have been something as simple as tge pad wasn't stuck which can give a funny reading or your pulse was up due to anxiety, shouldn't happen if you take beta blockers can't remember if you do. You've had all the tests you need to stop going to the hospital your feeding you anxiety and stressing your self out your making your self worse

You need some proper pain meds gave you tryed acupuncture for your Anixety and stress? How did you get on at hypnotherapy?

s11fyx
26-08-11, 18:17
Just saw your reply? Have you tryed relaxation and hypo CDs at home? You beef to start helping your self you need up cal. Down and relax else the palps won't go and neither will the pain. Why not try alternative things for your anixety? Or even book aassarge to help the muscle tension until you help yourself it won't go away you don't want to get to the point where tge gp refuses to see you. X

sandy40
26-08-11, 18:35
Ive a relaxation cd at home,im going to try and get into it when the kids are in bed.Im on beta blockers,propranolol 80mg...the dr said he was going to call my gp and ask would they refer me to a cardiololgist,i doubt if my gp will as he says its all in my head.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 18:54
Ive a relaxation cd at home,im going to try and get into it when the kids are in bed.Im on beta blockers,propranolol 80mg...the dr said he was going to call my gp and ask would they refer me to a cardiololgist,i doubt if my gp will as he says its all in my head.

Hi try the CD. also no they wont refer you as money comes into play hun x
it is all in your head x

ronski
26-08-11, 19:13
Sandy ECGs can show odd anomalies. The referral may have been made because of a q wave seen in a lead that should not show it. Q waves are an indicator of previous heart attacks but are seen only in specific leads in a 12 lead ECG. Or it could have been a chest lead applied slightly in the wring place.
When applying the ECG stickers especially the chest leads which are labeled V1- V6 you have to use various anatomical markers to apply the leads correctly, for example mid clavicular line 5th intercostal space and mid auxiliary line 5th intercostal space. If anyone does not use these properly then the test in some respects are useless as the traces would be wrong.
Doctors when looking at ECGs study the normal pictures that should be present in the 10 pictures Lead 1, lead 2, lead 3, AVR, AVL, AVF, V1, V2, V3, V4, V5, V6, in abnormal ECGs these pictures change sometimes dramatically but very occasionally quite subtlety and they can be normal known as a normal variant.
The main thing is that the cardiologist was asked to look at the tracing and passed it normal. Any doubt and you would have been admitted for further investigation.

sandy40
26-08-11, 19:22
Ronski thanks you certainly know your stuff,i wish i could nip round for a cup of tea ( although i wouldnt blame you for not answering the door),another thing that worries me is when the nurse applying the leads puts them on top of the breast rather than underneath as ive heard on the breast isnt good.Oh when will this get any better.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 19:24
Im not sure if youve seen or read my replies hun.

sandy40
26-08-11, 19:32
Im not sure if youve seen or read my replies hun.


Hi do you really think its all in my head? my gp thinks so and my family,which is as then ive no-one to talk to,except here.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 19:36
Hi do you really think its all in my head? my gp thinks so and my family,which is as then ive no-one to talk to,except here.

Yes i Do. You are worrying which is causing the pains x

s11fyx
26-08-11, 19:36
try the relaxation cd it will take time to work if your mind wanders and you start thinking about things just clear your mind.

why did the a&e doctor say he was going to ask him to refer you? just to put your mind at rest as if there was something wrong the cardologist would see you there and then

im pretty sure once you relax and your not tense the pain will go or at least lessen. would your husband pay for a massarge for you as that might help?

sandy40
26-08-11, 19:41
I dont know why he said he'd ask for him to maybe refer me..i should have asked him but i did tell him i doubt if he would do it,i know he wont,yes i could go for a massage,althought i dont feel tense but everyone says i even look it,but i dont feel it.

Em.ma
26-08-11, 19:42
Hi i think he said that to ease ur mind

sandy40
26-08-11, 19:51
What to be refered?

Em.ma
26-08-11, 19:52
yes. he knows nothing is wrong but knows he can not reassure you. you dont need the referall though hun.

ronski
26-08-11, 20:03
Sandy pop around for a cup of tea anytime and yes the stickers should go under the breast as you say following the fifth intercostal space. I worked in Operating Theatres and was a member of the cardiac arrest team for over thirty years so I did 3 lead ECGs on a daily basis which only give you a rate and rhythm to the diagnostic 12 lead ECGs that I did as and when needed.
Sandy you have a weekend in front of you, try an experiment. Spend the weekend trying to ignore your heart issues and see if things improve slightly by Tuesday. It's a very short time but just a small respite from self observation of symptoms may help.
Try some meditation but you may be to strung up at this time, listening to light calming music may be a good starting point. What you need is some music that will slow your heart such as Katherine Jenkins, Il Divo, Celtic Woman etc.
I certainly know where you are coming from as with all of my knowledge I was convinced I had major heart issues in 2006 to 2009 but after investigation I was diagnosed with ME/CFS which is an autonomic nervous system disruption and was giving me heart issues. You see even with knowledge you can get in a flat spin ha ha.
E mail me at any time if only for a chat as sometimes that can help.

sandy40
26-08-11, 20:11
Every time i say right im going to ignore this pain,i get a palp/flutter or chest pain to remind me its there...i shall try what you say and i hope your right.

s11fyx
26-08-11, 20:23
Are you having adrealine rushes?

sandy40
26-08-11, 20:28
No im not,i used too but the beta blocker seems to have stopped them.

haynsey
27-08-11, 01:31
Hi Sandy,
If you are on Beta Blockers, they should help prevent an heart attack!! (My husband has had an heart attack and is on beta blockers)
I truly believe you are fine and it is all to do with anxiety, you need to focus your mind on other things...please listen to everyone!!
Live Life to the Max!!!!:)

sandy40
27-08-11, 09:02
what a night of pain and fast heart beats,i even can feel my heart when im walking about at home,i really am sure something is wrong.

Em.ma
27-08-11, 11:15
As said before you are getting all this as you "think something is wrong" there is nothing wrong

sandy40
27-08-11, 11:19
But i fell there is as im still getting pain tightness and palps...i cant go back to A&E,they dont take me seriously as ive been there so much.

Em.ma
27-08-11, 11:38
you feel there is thats why your getting the pain.

Em.ma
27-08-11, 11:39
they do take you seriosuly but they know nothing is wrong- if they thought anything was wrong they would not send u home

Em.ma
27-08-11, 11:44
going to a and e fuels your anxiety to. stay away from there- when u get a pain etc just say to ur self "ok this is anxiety, i am ok, i am healthy" and dont think about it when it happens.
I dont think there is much else i can say
Good luck

s11fyx
27-08-11, 16:15
but your getting the palps as your anixous the mind is a very powerful thing but you need to take control theres lots of things you can do to help your self but you have to do them instead of letting the anixety and the feelings you are feeling ruin your life