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Why are the mornings the worst? I hate being left alone in the mornings its really getting to me like a big black cloud. As the morning goes on it does get better but its such a battle. I hate going to bed during the week as I know I have to face the " morning feeling".
Also, last night I went to bed ( fairly calmly for me) but during the night about 4am I woke up to find the churning stomach uneasy feeling even though I had just woke up... my symptoms are there even though I wasn't particulary anxious? This has been happening a lot recently as if its become my body's routine whether I'm anxious or not.. which sets me off on what if it is something else ( even though I know it won't be )
I can't enjoy my sleep anymore even at weekends when I know I won't be alone in the mornings. I'm getting really fed up with the daily grind of this, I do try to stay calm and positive but lately thats become a struggle.
I'm on Proponol 40mg x 1 but that doesn't seem to be helping at all with the physical symptoms...plus my appetite has gone so I have lost loads of weight. 4 weeks in and it seems to be getting worse! So fed up :huh: x
nicola1980
15-10-11, 09:44
Hi im exactly the same in the mornings i hate it! I always wake at 5 with the same anxiety feelings, i even retch sometimes cause of how im feeling! I can go to bed calm but always wake the same! I think its habit now and i expect it, started on citalopram 4 weeks ago so hoping it will ease soon! Maybe go and see your doc again? Nicola xx
Thanks Nicola,
I'm off to see GP today , this morning was awful again, lots of feelings of unable to cope alone ect started at 5ish by the time 8am came I was a wreck ... I took the dogs out and that eased it a bit. When the day goes on it does becomes better.
The problem is I am scared about medication and the side effects, I tried Citalopram and had a big panic attack so frightened to take anything else incase the same happens but at the same time I am so fed up of feeling like this I need to break the cycle... I've got counselling session tomorrow hopefully that will help, thanks for you advice, I was supposed to go back to work this week but that is a way off I think.... x
That's the six million dollar question that many, many people would love to know the answer to :). But there have been loads of posts on this site about people being much worse in the mornings. I feel as if I need to "cancel my day" (even if it's only a doctor's appt) practically every morning but I know if I just get out of bed, take my meds, breakfast, shower etc. I'll eventually start to feel better after a couple of hours.
Regards. x
Why are the mornings the worst? I hate being left alone in the mornings its really getting to me like a big black cloud. As the morning goes on it does get better but its such a battle. I hate going to bed during the week as I know I have to face the " morning feeling".
Also, last night I went to bed ( fairly calmly for me) but during the night about 4am I woke up to find the churning stomach uneasy feeling even though I had just woke up... my symptoms are there even though I wasn't particulary anxious? This has been happening a lot recently as if its become my body's routine whether I'm anxious or not.. which sets me off on what if it is something else ( even though I know it won't be )
I can't enjoy my sleep anymore even at weekends when I know I won't be alone in the mornings. I'm getting really fed up with the daily grind of this, I do try to stay calm and positive but lately thats become a struggle.
I'm on Proponol 40mg x 1 but that doesn't seem to be helping at all with the physical symptoms...plus my appetite has gone so I have lost loads of weight. 4 weeks in and it seems to be getting worse! So fed up :huh: x
Oh my God you could be me!! I wake up every day between 4 and 4.30 with a churning tummy, horrible nausea, a knot in my upper tummy and feelings of dread. I usually go on to have a panic attack which it takes ages to recover from.
I am anxious and feel sick most of the day, but it does get better as the day wears on. I can go to bed feeling calm, but know I will wake up feeling crap.
I tried Citalopram again last week as I was in despair, but a 5mg dose made me feel so ill I knew i couldn't take it long term, especially as last time I was on it I took 3 months to get any benefit from it. I am having CBT, but really struggling to do things myself, but i am going to keep trying.
M155anthr0p3
18-10-11, 18:25
I used to feel like this. I also took prop but found it did nothing for me.
It's the fear and dread of the day ahead. I used to vomit as well.
Things are now slowly getting better....a few bad days rather than every day being a bad day.
Dont be scared, just accept your feelings for what they are. Fighting is the worst thing you can do.
If I can do it (nervous wreck, couldn't go out etc etc) then so can you. 7 months it's taken but I believed in me.
Believe in yourself!!
Thinking of you :hugs:
Xxx
thanks for all your replies it really helps knowing that your not on your own when going through this, it gives me a bit of hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I worry about my weight, as I have lost a stone as I can't seem to eat and this is making me feel ill in itself, I always had a good appetite but its just falling away now . I know if I could eat and sleep properly then I would feel so much better. The GP prescribed me Mitazapine to help me sleep, gain weight and improve my overall mood ( wonder pill ! ) but I haven't taken it yet ( scared stiff ). I saw my counsellor yesterday for the 1st time and today I start CCBT through Making Space Charity it specialises in anxiety and panic attacks, please check this out as it is a free computerised or classroom based therapy programme in various areas not sure if it is available in all areas but you can find it online. Take care everyone x :)
I used to feel like this. I also took prop but found it did nothing for me.
It's the fear and dread of the day ahead. I used to vomit as well.
Things are now slowly getting better....a few bad days rather than every day being a bad day.
Dont be scared, just accept your feelings for what they are. Fighting is the worst thing you can do.
If I can do it (nervous wreck, couldn't go out etc etc) then so can you. 7 months it's taken but I believed in me.
Believe in yourself!!
Thinking of you :hugs:
Xxx
I have had this now for 6 months and I am getting very despondent as I don't seem to be strong enough to cure myself. I have tried meds, one of which made me worse, the other didn't really do anything.
My biggest problem is that I have a fear of vomiting and the constant nausea I have is debilitating. I admire you so much for being so strong, I am finding acceptance very hard.
Hi Deb :)
I think there are a lot of people in a similar situation! I've had that dreaded morning feeling too, as well as waking in the early hours with it. Whilst I haven't been sick, I've certainly felt rubbish and hopeless with it!
From what I've learnt, the 'morning feeling' is likely to be caused by the fact that the morning represents a new day - a new day in which you are still suffering from this 'dreaded thing', when you had hoped it would be 'gone'. So, your reaction is one of disappointment and fear, because you presume your entire day is going to be 'miserable' and similar to the previous bad experiences you have had with panic/anxiety.
The number one bugbear of mine with anxiety was the CONSTANT niggle of 'something' - even if I wasn't conscious of breathing, or having a panic attack, the constant 'feeling' in my stomach/chest was there - the one of "something isn't right heerreee.. don't ignore me.. who knows what I'll turn into?"
The key thing to learn when overcoming anxiety/panic is to not be afraid of panic. Just like M155anthr0p3 said, its the fear of panic and it's symptoms that causes it!! very ironic. You can discuss various symptoms til the cows come home, but its very unlikely you'll experience relief from them until you can band them ALL under the umbrella of anxiety - you'll learn to identify the "Tap" instead of looking at the various bits of water in attempt to understand why you feel the way you do.
I used to focus on things like, WHY is my breathing weird - why am I always aware of it, why do have to keep taking deep breaths etc - and whilst reading about others experiences, learning 'belly breathing' and everything helped somewhat - it still unnerved me that it was THERE. But then I learnt (from a couple of website sources) that me being anxious about the breathing is what caused it. Once i stopped using the 'safety' behaviours of trying to take a deep breath, sitting down, drinking a glass of water etc, I learnt that the 'breathing thing' wasn't going to cause me any harm so i lost my fear of it (gradually) and it no longer happens because i'm not scared of it. Once or twice it has come back - but now I know what it is, so I don't mind and quickly get over it because I understand instead of fear.
One fantastic source for CBT is the website
http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91696 < Please use the link to the appropriate thread on No More Panic.
It was recommended on here a couple of days a go, it is a brilliant learning tool for understanding anxiety and thus helping you to lose your fear of it. I can honestly say it has really helped me, I've had the calmest two days in over a year!! And this is with me running a busy clinic this morning (I am a third year student midwife, with a dissertation to complete also lol)
In overcoming panic you learn to 'live in the moment' - a valuable tool for life in general. Waking with panic/dread are symptoms of worrying about what is going to happen in the future, which takes you away from the present moment. When you overcome this, you'll see that living life in the moment is much more rewarding :flowers:
Best of luck, feel free to PM me for any support
Hi Deb :)
I think there are a lot of people in a similar situation! I've had that dreaded morning feeling too, as well as waking in the early hours with it. Whilst I haven't been sick, I've certainly felt rubbish and hopeless with it!
From what I've learnt, the 'morning feeling' is likely to be caused by the fact that the morning represents a new day - a new day in which you are still suffering from this 'dreaded thing', when you had hoped it would be 'gone'. So, your reaction is one of disappointment and fear, because you presume your entire day is going to be 'miserable' and similar to the previous bad experiences you have had with panic/anxiety.
The number one bugbear of mine with anxiety was the CONSTANT niggle of 'something' - even if I wasn't conscious of breathing, or having a panic attack, the constant 'feeling' in my stomach/chest was there - the one of "something isn't right heerreee.. don't ignore me.. who knows what I'll turn into?"
The key thing to learn when overcoming anxiety/panic is to not be afraid of panic. Just like M155anthr0p3 said, its the fear of panic and it's symptoms that causes it!! very ironic. You can discuss various symptoms til the cows come home, but its very unlikely you'll experience relief from them until you can band them ALL under the umbrella of anxiety - you'll learn to identify the "Tap" instead of looking at the various bits of water in attempt to understand why you feel the way you do.
I used to focus on things like, WHY is my breathing weird - why am I always aware of it, why do have to keep taking deep breaths etc - and whilst reading about others experiences, learning 'belly breathing' and everything helped somewhat - it still unnerved me that it was THERE. But then I learnt (from a couple of website sources) that me being anxious about the breathing is what caused it. Once i stopped using the 'safety' behaviours of trying to take a deep breath, sitting down, drinking a glass of water etc, I learnt that the 'breathing thing' wasn't going to cause me any harm so i lost my fear of it (gradually) and it no longer happens because i'm not scared of it. Once or twice it has come back - but now I know what it is, so I don't mind and quickly get over it because I understand instead of fear.
One fantastic source for CBT is the website
http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91696 < Please use the link to the appropriate thread on No More Panic.
It was recommended on here a couple of days a go, it is a brilliant learning tool for understanding anxiety and thus helping you to lose your fear of it. I can honestly say it has really helped me, I've had the calmest two days in over a year!! And this is with me running a busy clinic this morning (I am a third year student midwife, with a dissertation to complete also lol)
In overcoming panic you learn to 'live in the moment' - a valuable tool for life in general. Waking with panic/dread are symptoms of worrying about what is going to happen in the future, which takes you away from the present moment. When you overcome this, you'll see that living life in the moment is much more rewarding :flowers:
Best of luck, feel free to PM me for any support
Hi Potato, I have just signed up for this course and so far Robin has been really helpful giving me lots of support. The info hasn't started my recovery yet as I haven't got to the stage where I can remember all the tips and tricks.
I am still fighting the panic (even though I don't mean to) and I'm finding acceptance pretty difficult, I don't quite understand how to do that yet. I can't wait for the day that I just don't care about panic or nausea, I'm sure I'll get there, but I think it will probably take a while.
I'm really glad CBT4Panic worked for you, it gives me hope.
I've always wondered if you stayed up all night........ would you then feel fine in the morning or just knackered?!!
Hiya Rocklover :)
Good stuff! I loved the course, especially the cartoon examples haha. I've been learning a lot in relation to panic/anxiety over the past couple of months, so I think the reason I 'got it' rather quickly is because it helped to hit the nail on the head. Its understandable that it may take some time, because you're overcoming thought behaviours and patterns that have worn a groove into your brain! However, I think you will soon reach a certain " a ha!" point where there is no going back :) it's an exciting time!
Keep perservering. Remember, panic can never hurt you - so don't despair if you feel like you 'can't cope' - you aren't bringing harm to yourself. I found that takes the pressure off.
The trick with "acceptance" is the way you think about it. The mistake I made is thinking I have to accept feeling terrified - which isn't going to happen, because the very nature of being terrified is to make you flee or whatever - you can't "cancel out" an emotion. What IS meant by acceptance is more recognising WHY that emotion - i.e panic - is there - "It's just adrenaline, do your worst." So, you're no longer thinking "I'm terrified but I have to accept it or I'll never get over this" to, "I feel terrified but it's due to adrenaline putting my body on high alert, my senses are on overdrive, it will pass, I know I'm ok". Does that make sense? that's the error I made in the beginning anyway. I know it's still hard to believe that all this is simple "panic" - seems too good to be true! BUT that's where practice is the key - exposure techniques help you learn by experience that nothing is going to happen to you.
I have faith in you :D good luck, PM me if you need any support xx
Hiya Rocklover :)
Good stuff! I loved the course, especially the cartoon examples haha. I've been learning a lot in relation to panic/anxiety over the past couple of months, so I think the reason I 'got it' rather quickly is because it helped to hit the nail on the head. Its understandable that it may take some time, because you're overcoming thought behaviours and patterns that have worn a groove into your brain! However, I think you will soon reach a certain " a ha!" point where there is no going back :) it's an exciting time!
Keep perservering. Remember, panic can never hurt you - so don't despair if you feel like you 'can't cope' - you aren't bringing harm to yourself. I found that takes the pressure off.
The trick with "acceptance" is the way you think about it. The mistake I made is thinking I have to accept feeling terrified - which isn't going to happen, because the very nature of being terrified is to make you flee or whatever - you can't "cancel out" an emotion. What IS meant by acceptance is more recognising WHY that emotion - i.e panic - is there - "It's just adrenaline, do your worst." So, you're no longer thinking "I'm terrified but I have to accept it or I'll never get over this" to, "I feel terrified but it's due to adrenaline putting my body on high alert, my senses are on overdrive, it will pass, I know I'm ok". Does that make sense? that's the error I made in the beginning anyway. I know it's still hard to believe that all this is simple "panic" - seems too good to be true! BUT that's where practice is the key - exposure techniques help you learn by experience that nothing is going to happen to you.
I have faith in you :D good luck, PM me if you need any support xx
Thanks Potato. My problem is my panics occur every morning at home when I wake up rather than out and about (although my nausea does make me rather agoraphobic), so I can't really use exposure therapy when I'm at home can I?
Not really sure how to address my morning panics to be honest.
Thanks Potato.. i'll check out the link, thanks Rocklover, your not on your own I don't feel brave at all at the moment .just try to cope with each day that comes my way. Everyone's replies are appreciated. I hope it will get better with time and acceptance...thats the bit I'm struggling with at the moment acceptance because im so brain tired thinking all the time. I'm still preoccupied with the " fear & symptoms" hence being awake all last night, anything sets me off now. .
I had a sleepless night last night, I had the adrenaline feeling all night because I brought it on myself worrying myself stupid about taking Mitazapine doc prescribed me on Monday to help me sleep and put weight on and generally improve mood but I'm so scared to take it. Everyone says it will help but I have a complete "fear" of anti-depressants and hence sets me off in a panic. I felt relatively calm prior to bedtime until that "thought" came into my head. This morning hasn't been as bad as I expected it to be but I still only have think about taking the anti-depressant and that sets me off...I'll go and check out that thread.
x:hugs:
Thanks Potato.. i'll check out the link, thanks Rocklover, your not on your own I don't feel brave at all at the moment .just try to cope with each day that comes my way. Everyone's replies are appreciated. I hope it will get better with time and acceptance...thats the bit I'm struggling with at the moment acceptance because im so brain tired thinking all the time. I'm still preoccupied with the " fear & symptoms" hence being awake all last night, anything sets me off now. .
I had a sleepless night last night, I had the adrenaline feeling all night because I brought it on myself worrying myself stupid about taking Mitazapine doc prescribed me on Monday to help me sleep and put weight on and generally improve mood but I'm so scared to take it. Everyone says it will help but I have a complete "fear" of anti-depressants and hence sets me off in a panic. I felt relatively calm prior to bedtime until that "thought" came into my head. This morning hasn't been as bad as I expected it to be but I still only have think about taking the anti-depressant and that sets me off...I'll go and check out that thread.
x:hugs:
I too am scared of anti depesssants as I have had some horrid side effects from them. I have taken Mirtazapine and I can only say that I hardly had any side effects at all, it just knocked me out at bed time. Sadly it didn't work for my anxiety but I would recommend trying it as it doesn't seem to be as horrible as the SSRIs.
Thanks Rocklover, its scary thinking of taking them but as I can't sleep properly that will be good but I don't want to spend all day groggy either. I had Citalopram only 1 tablet and ended up with a huge panic attack thats why I don't want to take them it took me a good week to get over that. Did you check out the thread for the CBT4panic, it looks really good but I'm due to start CCBT next week so I don't want to get myself confused. Hope your day hasn't been too bad x :)
Thanks Potato. My problem is my panics occur every morning at home when I wake up rather than out and about (although my nausea does make me rather agoraphobic), so I can't really use exposure therapy when I'm at home can I?
Not really sure how to address my morning panics to be honest.
Rocklover
I'd say you can use exposure therapy at home. Because it's all about small steps in helping you to understand that 'panic' is just that - panic. Not a sign of imminent disaster.
I recently had the flu, which (before I did the CBT4PANIC program) really heightened my health anxiety, as you can imagine! I was scared to even get out of my bed to go down to the kitchen for some water.
So, if I had known about CBT techniques then, my ''exposure'' therapy might have gone like
1) Stand out of my bed for a couple of minutes, walk around, realise that although I feel foggy/dizzy I'm ok
2) Go to bathroom, brush teeth - even though I am noticing my breathing, nothing bad is actually happening to me
3) Go downstairs to kitchen to get a glass of water
See? all about creativity :P You can do ANY activity, the main goal is you coming to an understanding that the "feelings" you felt throughout the activity are harmless, albeit horrible or scary at the time. Then you can learn to relax in the knowledge that no harm will come to you, and your symptoms will begin to decrease as a result.
Hope that helps! :D
Well here I am wide awake at 4.30 again - but never mind, I can catch up with sleep by going to bed early. I find that always making myself get up at six am really helps, although when the clocks change I don't - I can only adapt gradually by five minutes a day (or I feel worse). Going out more, even fifteen minute walks with the dog or to the shops with my grandson, improves my sleep and mood problems. Four or five short walks works better than one long walk - maybe because it breaks up the day. Also, I make myself spend some time on a task (however menial or basic) every day to achieve a feeling of progress. It all takes a lot of effort as I feel so ill but I view this illness as a temporary thing - it went away before and will again in time!
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