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FRANKIEISBACK
24-11-11, 22:58
anyone else on this daily ?
without it I just cant function at all
sunshine-lady
24-11-11, 23:59
Hi,
I used to be on 30mg diazepam per day but am now currently down to 15mg per day. I was taking 30mg for several years and like yourself just could not function without it. I have gradually cut down with the help of my psychiatrist and hope that one day I will not need them at all. Talk to your Dr about reducing your dose. I started by reducing 3mg per day by taking one 5mg and two 2mg tablets three times per day. Each week I reduced it again. Any reduction has to be done slowly. I have been taking diazepam since 1998 and never thought I would have been on them this long.
Good luck
I was on 15mg, 20mg if needed. Down to 12.5mg. Reducing to 12mg next week. Right now, I don't feel as if I could cope on any less.
Haz.
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If you want to reduce, then I would suggest really, really slowly. Like 2.5mg (getting 5mg tablets and halving them) per month.
eight days a week
25-11-11, 00:46
This is all you will ever need for tapering down as far as you ideally need and would like, promise :yesyes:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm
FRANKIEISBACK
25-11-11, 19:00
thnak you all very much , nice to see I am not alone
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just been on a benzo support advice line and its not uncommon to be on 30 mg
phewwww !!
30mg IS a high dose. It's the highest which should be prescribed.
BNF suggests 2mg X3 increased if necessary to 15mg - 30mg.
30mg IS a high dose. It's the highest which should be prescribed.
BNF suggests 2mg X3 increased if necessary to 15mg - 30mg.
Are you sure? I've known people to be on 60mg a day.
I'm on 12mg day, doing pretty good....don't think I could function on 30mg :wacko: that does seem high!
swanlinnet
11-02-12, 20:48
30mg IS a high dose. It's the highest which should be prescribed.
BNF suggests 2mg X3 increased if necessary to 15mg - 30mg.
I've know people who have been on treble that amount each day. And the same people are now free from Benzo's.
Good luck Frankie:) It is possible to flush those Benzo's from the system. It may take time and good judgement on our part. But it is possible.
That said, if you need a tablet, then I wouldn't worry. In your own time when you feel you don't want to take them, then it is possible to do that.
Vince:)
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There is a doctor I know who is on 80mg per day ...20mg@ 4times per day !!
BTW, if anybody has been on these Benzo's for about a year, then you can sue the prescriber for first introducing you to them. It is a straightforward process. And already lots of people have reached financial agreements.
They don't tell you this on the label, do they:D
In fact, lots of people have received good settlements already, at least in in Britain anyway. It is a straighforward process ....but be sure not to settle for a low figure.
You need good advice.
For example, people on Benzo's who went to jail who were then denied Benzo's in jail got a few thousand. And people who were simply on them on 'the outside' for about a year got more.
The fact is those things, while useful, are so, so, addiciting and, unless you were given a written, signed, kind of charter explaining this by the prescriber then you are entitled.
Good luck , Vince:)
Are you sure? I've known people to be on 60mg a day.
Just checked BNF says this:
By mouth, anxiety, 2 mg 3 times daily increased if necessary to 15–30 mg daily in divided doses; elderly (or debilitated) half adult dose
Insomnia associated with anxiety, 5–15 mg at bedtime
Doctors are free to to ignore the BNF although I doubt very many GP's would prescribe 60mg diazepam a day, a specialist maybe. That said double what the BNF says is pushing it. 60mg is very high. A paramedic/doctor would only administer a maximum of 20mg diazepam IV for someone fitting. Yes they are different routes oral/IV but 60mg is a very very very large dose.
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I've know people who have been on treble that amount each day. And the same people are now free from Benzo's.
Good luck Frankie:) It is possible to flush those Benzo's from the system. It may take time and good judgement on our part. But it is possible.
That said, if you need a tablet, then I wouldn't worry. In your own time when you feel you don't want to take them, then it is possible to do that.
Vince:)
---------- Post added at 20:48 ---------- Previous post was at 20:36 ----------
There is a doctor I know who is on 80mg per day ...20mg@ 4times per day !!
BTW, if anybody has been on these Benzo's for about a year, then you can sue the prescriber for first introducing you to them. It is a straightforward process. And already lots of people have reached financial agreements.
They don't tell you this on the label, do they:D
In fact, lots of people have received good settlements already, at least in in Britain anyway. It is a straighforward process ....but be sure not to settle for a low figure.
You need good advice.
For example, people on Benzo's who went to jail who were then denied Benzo's in jail got a few thousand. And people who were simply on them on 'the outside' for about a year got more.
The fact is those things, while useful, are so, so, addiciting and, unless you were given a written, signed, kind of charter explaining this by the prescriber then you are entitled.
Good luck , Vince:)
What a load of shi*, the fear of being sued, and people like you are the reasons why doctors are reluctant to prescribe diazepam to those who will not misuse it.
dan i have a job getting 14 2mg tabs every couple of months, and i do not abuse them either. don't know how people get their doc's to prescribe the high doses.
i find them very helpfull for certain situations, and recently for citalopram withdrawals, but have to spread them out as they have to last me.
different doc's with different opinions? take care xx
dan i have a job getting 14 2mg tabs every couple of months, and i do not abuse them either. don't know how people get their doc's to prescribe the high doses.
i find them very helpfull for certain situations, and recently for citalopram withdrawals, but have to spread them out as they have to last me.
different doc's with different opinions? take care xx
Same my doc only prescribes 7 in one go, and after prescribing 21 in 5 months she refused to prescribe me more. Saw a consultant psychiatrist and he prescribed me 30 in one go :ohmy:.
Sorry, should have made my post more clear.
You are right about BNF guidelines Dan, but in my experience psychiatrists will prescribe a higher dose if they feel it necessary.
The girl in the bed next to me in psychiatric ward was on 60mg daily.
Haz.:)
grizzlybear
23-05-12, 11:25
hi I am on 45mg daily plus 30 mg of tmezapam at night,without this I would b an absoulute mess,the drug(diazapam) is the same but the people who take it r different,if u feel comfortable on this dose then stay on it.U WILL know when u r ready to decrease,get as much support as u can .
e.g doctor's,shrinks whatever U feel comfortable with,plz don't think u r on a high dosage,I know alot of people who r on 40-60mg daily,take ur time and just take each day as it comes:)
As long as you are aware:
diazepam is habit forming and said to be harder to withdraw from than cocaine,
your body builds a tolerance to it, so you will slowly need a higher dose
then go for high doses. When diazepam was invented, it was said not to be addictive and a magic pill prescribed for anything ranging from depression to suicidal thoughts.
I am taking 12-15mg daily, and comfortable at this dose. Would I be happy on 45mg - no, but its not my decision.
Dan
shropshire_lad
01-06-12, 22:11
As long as you are aware:
diazepam is habit forming and said to be harder to withdraw from than cocaine,
I didn't realise cocaine was such an addictive substance? Glad I've steered cleared of it.
I have taken diazepam for 12 months now and it has helped me through difficult times, never taken more than 10mg in a day, and now back down to 5mg a night to help me sleep. Hopefully over the coming months I will reduce this totally, although I'm in no rush after going cold turkey from 45mg of mirtazapine and suffering tremendously, I'm going to be kinder to myself in future.
moirascott
01-06-12, 23:29
I didn't realise cocaine was such an addictive substance? Glad I've steered cleared of it.
I have taken diazepam for 12 months now and it has helped me through difficult times, never taken more than 10mg in a day, and now back down to 5mg a night to help me sleep. Hopefully over the coming months I will reduce this totally, although I'm in no rush after going cold turkey from 45mg of mirtazapine and suffering tremendously, I'm going to be kinder to myself in future.
no matter what drug you are taking diazepam is addictive, just like cocaine !!!
What I have found with this drug is GP's are not following the NICE guidelines, and whilst we all want something that will help us get through it, it is a nasty drug as far as Im concerned.
It just masks the underlining issues and does not help you face them.
Im alarmed that people are on these for so long, when they are only according to the NICE guidelines for certain situations. If something alarming has happened etc.
If people cannot function without a diaz in the morning etc to do everyday things, then seriously something is wrong with the system.
AD's etc (not for long term use) just like diaz, and therapy ...... and us all facing up to our fears.
Thats my opinion anyway.
............:winks:
It's a tough one, because Valium is a very good and effective med, but because of that it tends to be sometimes over used, and whilst I could condemn that, I think if someone is getting relief then its difficult to be critical. I certainly don't feel people are wrong for taking it, after all, they are prescribed it by a professional in good faith I would hope.
That said I do believe many doctors (certainly my practice is) are responsible with prescribing it, in order to reduce the amount of people becoming dependent.
But it is a victim of its own success, and maybe one day there will be a drug to take its place, that is tailored to us all as individuals, and takes into account our genetic make up etc..and that is not addictive..!
no matter what drug you are taking diazepam is addictive, just like cocaine !!!
What I have found with this drug is GP's are not following the NICE guidelines, and whilst we all want something that will help us get through it, it is a nasty drug as far as Im concerned.
It just masks the underlining issues and does not help you face them.
Im alarmed that people are on these for so long, when they are only according to the NICE guidelines for certain situations. If something alarming has happened etc.
If people cannot function without a diaz in the morning etc to do everyday things, then seriously something is wrong with the system.
AD's etc (not for long term use) just like diaz, and therapy ...... and us all facing up to our fears.
Thats my opinion anyway.
............:winks:
You sum it up well except they are only guidelines. A GP is free to ignore the guidelines it is not a protocol.
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