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Morning peeps.
Well after my panic attack yesterday at the meal, im feeling on edge and not great today. I fly out to Cyprus 2moz morning, and i think the whole wedding thing has hit me, feeling really nervous, shaky, lightheaded etc. Im scared im going to mess things up and panic, my head is spinning. Ive just took 2.5mg diazepam, i just dont know what to do! :( I cant stop the way im feeling and wish i could calm down, i feel silly because this isnt the real me, but i guess im not 100% back to normal yet.
Thanks for listening.
Gav.x
rockbottok
22-10-12, 14:27
Hi guys. I'm feeling a bit better. Still a bit up and down. But we all hae these. I'm off to drs Tomo anyway so will se what she has to say. Am I the only one here that has never been referred to a shrink?? :(
Anyway........
Gav I know it's easier said than done but just remember anxiety is just a feeling and can't physically hurt u so just try ur hardest to enjoy the day. Maybe a few glasses of champers will relax u :) I went out sat night and I could feel my anxiety rising but as soon as I'd had a couple of drinks it subsided. But defo don't over do it with alcohol.
Lou x
gav, everyone who is getting married feels anxious and nervous, and you have the added pressure of your anxious state, as lou says,once you get there, and as the big day approaches, you can have a wee drink or use your diazapam to calm you down, im sure you will have a great day, the worrying about it will be worse tan the wedding day itself, so try not to think about too much at once, one day at a time, i really hope you have a great wedding day, and remember its just anxiety and it cant harm you, take care and good luck xxx
lou, you sound a bit better now hunni, i asked to be reffered to a shrink lol, good luck at the dr's tomorow xx
hows everyone else doing ?????
Aw Gav I'm so sorry you're feeling so anxious again and had a panic attack last night. When I was completely stabalised and ok again on Citalopram I still could have panic attacks when things really got to me so I'm sure once you are in Cyprus and the wedding is even over, you will totally calm down again. One of my anxiety episodes actually started when I was getting married too. I'm quite a shy person so I hated the idea of being the centre of attention and every one looking at me walking down the aisle etc. Then my Mother in law totally took over my wedding inviting all her friends and long lost cousins etc, so I ended up back on the Citalopram and had only been on it 4 weeks when my wedding day arrived. I did feel totally anxious when I woke up I won't lie but I took a Diazepam pill, went for a long walk on my own, drank a glass of Baileys and then..... the bridesmaids all landed on my door step and we were so busy getting ready etc, I never even thought about my anxiety at all because the clock just whizzed by and I was so totally distratced that I didn't have even a twinge of anxiety at all the rest of that day. I did feel anxious the following morning when I woke up and probs the day after that but I got better really quickly once all the pressure of the wedding was taken away. So....you will be fine darl. I promise you and the worst thing that can happen is you can feel anxious or worse have a panic attack but I don't think you will on the day. All the very best Gav.
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Pink's so right too Gav, it's only normal and natural to feel nervous before such a life changing event, I'm sure your future wife is also feeling nervous right now so to have natural nerves on top of suffering with an anxiety illness (and it's only early days really since you started your Ven) is only to be expected so don't be too hard on yourself. There's absolutley nothing wrong with worrying over mucking everything up but I'll bet when it comes to it, you won't at all and this time next week you'll be wondering what you was so worried about (:
Hi all,
Still as busy as ever - I've just got in and need to take the wee doggy for a wet and foggy walk. Last week at work before I go away for 4 days. I'm looking forward to the break!
Gav - I'm not surprised you're anxious. Anybody getting married would be but it's much worse for us. You're going to have a wonderful time and you really deserve to the way you've worked so hard the last few months. Just think how far you've come and what you've achieved. You're a real star! Have a lovely time and we all look forward to hearing about it when you get back.
Take care
Pip x
nicola1980
22-10-12, 19:00
Good luck Gav :bighug1: i hope you have an absoutely amazing day :bighug1: can't wait to hear all about it xx
Thanks everyone! I know anyone would feel nervous or anxious about getting married, and its only natural. I'm just going into overload thinking im going backwards again I think?
I know I have come along way since 4 months ago, and I have proved to myself I can do the normal things I used to do in the last couple of weeks, I just need to stay strong!
Thanks for the support.x
Thanks everyone! I know anyone would feel nervous or anxious about getting married, and its only natural. I'm just going into overload thinking im going backwards again I think?
I know I have come along way since 4 months ago, and I have proved to myself I can do the normal things I used to do in the last couple of weeks, I just need to stay strong!
Thanks for the support.x
:D!
Pip
Gav...... hope your day got a little better for you, and your anxiety calmed down.
try and chill tonite if you havn't got to much to do
Just want to say have a super time and try to enjoy it:bighug1: :bighug1: :bighug1:
Hi all
Good luck gav as everyone says its normal to feel nervous. Try to think daily as pink says as I feel that works enough for me. We'd going away next week and keep thinking what I don't enjoy it but then tell myself off lol...
Well I got the job I wanted and start 5th nov yippee. I'm a teaching assistant for reception on morning then working as a special needs assistant pm.
I qualified five years ago and finally have the chance to do it so been out for a meal to celebrate. I am hoping the change on life will help my recovery too.
Hope everyone else ok xx
Sober2000june
22-10-12, 21:52
All the best for the big day Gav.
Congrats Tracey.
And :bighug1:to all
Well done Tracey! :)
And thanks again for all the support as always guys! I'm off to bed! Everyone take care, speak soon!.x
Well done Tracey and what a lovely age group to work with (I think, ha ha) I trained as a nursery nurse when I left school but somehow managed doing office work.
Thinking of you Gav flying out to Cyprus.
Hope every one is ok...I'm feeling a bit calmer, wobbly but not totally paniky but a little flat too which I guess is normal after being so sky high for so long. Today's a bad day for me any how as it's year to the date since I lost my Westie Bonnie, plus the weather is just dark and wet here which I never think helps ):
nicola1980
23-10-12, 10:03
Well done tracy thats fantastic news :-) am so pleased for you, glad your getting on ok with the new meds karen, im feeling flat today but dont think this weather helps plus my mum and dad go away for 10 days on fri and not looking forward to that at all :-( x x
well done tracey :yesyes: this will help in your recovery im sure and what a lovely age group, just look what ou've achieved despite your anxiety, you will be ok hunni, so pleased for you xx
good luck gav, thinking of youxx
karen,i know how you;re feeling thinking about your wee dog, i've been through it, and its heart breaking, so its no wonder your feeling a bit low today, i can now get through it by thinking of all the great times wee spent together, time really is a healer, take care xx
wel had a bottom wisom tooth out and the top bone lest behind on the top tooth, so 7 injections in all :scared15: it was'nt pleasant, but i did it :D and now feeling a it shakey and tired, so will chill with my wee rosie today xx
hows everyone else doing xx
Well done Pink. I was thinking about you!
Pip
well done Tracey! you have come a long way, hope it comes my way soon.
Pink... what an high anxiety day, you have had very well done! just chill now and think thank god thats all over.
Nic.. hasn't your mum and dad just been away not long ago? or is that somebody else?
I went to cbt today, early days yet, think iv'e got a lot to do yet.
Hope everyone else is managing this horrible illness the best they can and it's not to unpleasant you you. xxxx
nicola1980
23-10-12, 18:38
yeah Clio they went away not long ago, they go on holiday loads and its never bothered me before but since this last relapse theyve become my safety net which i know isn't healthy but i feel safe knowing my mums only up the road, they had to cancel a holiday in april on the advice of my physchatrist because i was that ill with anxiety.........how sad is that for a 32 yr old married woman!!! i want the old me back :mad: xx
Hi everyone,
Sorry, my last post was a flying visit - I was en route to the fields with the hound. Just got back and it's so dark that I didn't realise he's covered in mud. I'm going to attempt a wipe down but it may end in a bath - for me and him...
All is well here though it's just so busy at work that I haven't had much time to post or keep on top of things on here. I know Gav will now be in sunny Cyprus (lucky him, I wish I were), and that Pink's had her gnashers out but that's as far as I've got. I'm feeling fine and now it's just the mornings that are a wee bit shaky but nothing too bad.
I hope everyone else is ok. I intend to have a good read through the thread later and catch up. Unfortunately, I'll have to fit it in around some work I need to do for tomorrow - no rest for the wicked...
Take care
Pip xxx
Nic. your not sad, I'm a 55yr old and wish I still had my mum around!, but Iv'e got a very supportive partner. I think everyone in our condition is glad they have somebody they can turn to. When this thing called anxiety takes hold it is terrifying no matter what age you are I mostly feel less anxious around this time of night( maybe that's because I don't have to do anything outside of the house?) I too wish I could get my confidence back so that I can feel more relaxed and just go about life without thinking am I going to be ok today. xxx
Hello Joy, Hello Mr Wubbleu,
I see you're both on this thread - it's like big brother this
How are you both?
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I'm plodding on, still practicing shall we say :blush:. Managing to work, which I'm really pleased about but the anxiety and depression are still lurking. We're going away for a few days next week, I'd booked it when I was feeling 'normal' again as we hadn't had a holiday this year, only going to North Cornwall but I always find holidays stressful! The idea was to have a relaxing break, walking, reading, cinema etc but already my son has said - 'what am I going to do', being a teenager he doesn't read anything on paper, walking is too strenuous and I can already hear him saying 'I'm bored'. He's a nice lad really but if he's not happy I won't relax and that was the whole point of having a short break. That's me anyway x
Morning every one, lucky old Gav I know, jetting off to Cyprus, it's not been daylight here for the past 3 days!!!
Pip-so glad you are feeling more or less ok apart from the mornings which are always the last thing to ever come right for me too. I managed to sleep an whole night last night without wakign up and rushing for Zopiclone pills in panic. I still woke up feeling horrible and panicky though but it was so nice just to sleep, I've only been on Trazodone 9 days and not even on a theraputic dose so after feeling miles worse on Mirtazapine and then Venlafaxine been too potent for me to tolerate the start up effects, I am trying to be positive that this one is going to help get me back to my calm, chilled, cool as a cucumber SELF instead of an old nervouos wreck, ha ha!
Nicola-I'm 42 and am still living with my Mum even though I have my own flat now! I def have to move in it this next week too as my little boy starts his new school and I can't drive and it's a long walk to my Mummies house, ha ha! I'm scared though because I'll be on my own again with a 9 year old, though my Sister is only 10 mins down the road if that and my Mum says she will stay at mine if I ever feel really anxious. Every one else thinks it will be the best medicine ever for me though. Clio you'll get that confidence back one of these days (:
We have 3 Yorkies here by the way Pink. One is mine but she's not allowed to move to my flat so she's staying wiht my Parents when I go, I am going to be a lost sould without her as she's always been my cmpany during the day but I'll just get a budgie or a tortoise as I am allowed one of them. It's just cats and doglets that aren't welcome though they can visit which I don't quite get why you can't have one full time then!!! Luckily Emmie has got that used to my Mum and dad during the ast 6 months we've been stayng here her effections have moved onto my Dad anyroads, hmff, so she'll be ok staying here with the other 2 yappy efforts all wanting to eat the same dinner and play with the same toy! (:
Well, I'm not feeling too bad today so I'm off out in a bit to buy the last carpet I need for this flat though I'm worrying over going to my Sister's surprise 40th Birthday on Sunday a little as with this illness it's hard to plan things in I don't know if you all find as I can be ok one day but a mess another. But I shall keep on telling myself even if I do feel anxious it'lll soon go when I am distracted chatting to people.
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Hi Sam x
karen what a shame you cany take your wee yorkie with you, i would be a lost soul without rosie, she has been my company throughout, ad when i was in bed, she would just lie beside me, as if she knew i was ill, but as you say, she will be used to things at your parents house now, good luck carpet hunting, and im sure you'll settle into your flat,and once you have a wee drink you'll enjoy your sisters party too xx
sam you are doig well, an you will enjoy your break away, im sure your son will too.
pip how are you today ????
i feel better now that the dentist is out of the way, only 2 more appointments to go :ohmy: dont think it will get any easier, but im going, and thats a hugh step for me, by the way girls, i still need my mum bless her and im 58, dont tell anyone !!!!.
hows everyone else today ????
nicola1980
24-10-12, 15:23
Hi all, Sam sending you :hugs: when i went away in june i was dreading it but when i got there and relaxed i was ok, Karen good luck with the move :hugs: i know how daunting it must be for you but you can do this, Pink wow your so brave, ive still not plucked up the courage to go to the dentist :blush: it makes me shudder just thinking of it!! so pleased im not the only one needing my mum lol!! i keep telling myself ill be fine without her cause i have a really supportive hubby but hes not like my mum, she can calm me down but ill be fine and i think my sisters had her orders to keep an eye on me aswel!! hope everyone else is ok xxxxx
Hi there,
Not bad here, just tired as I'm not going to bed early enough due to my evening dog-calming duties. Determined to have an early night tonight so that I've got some energy left for the weekend.
Karen - yes, the mornings are always the worst for me. I think it's just the day looming in front of me that triggers it. I've always been the same and I think that this is as good as it gets for me. I'm not complaining though as I'm in a luckier position than most.
Pink - 2 more appointments and it's all over. What a hero you are! After all these years to take the bull by the horns and get it all sorted, particularly after some of the nastier treatment you've had to have. Have you got any plans for the weekend? If the weather's anything like it is here it will be wet, misty and dark. The poor pouch has gone and caught a cold too - he's sneezing and keeps wiping his nose on my suit. I was in a meeting this morning and noticed some doggy snot on my trousers. Lovely!
Sam - I'm the same. I'm going away at the weekend which always seems like a good idea when I book it but I dread it when it's approaching. We'll both enjoy it when we're there. Cornwall's beautiful and I'm only slightly jealous!
Nic - how are you feeling. Has the infection cleared up and have you settled back on your dose? You'll get through it but it's been hard work for you, I know.
I hope everyone else is ok.
Take care
Pip xxx
Sober2000june
24-10-12, 21:39
evening all,
Pink, you keep reminding me i need to go to dentist. 3 fillings have fallen out. No anxiety about going, the pain doesnt bother me its just the ol cant be @rsed! defo been better on 187.5 but today been a bit harder. Like pip im up too late - young boys just seem to eat up the hrs:). Well im seeing another gp at mo cos mines on hols.anyway she says that the other consultant i was possibly getting in my catchment area who specialises in addiction says i dont really kneed him. This guy must be great!, cus he can obviously make a diagnosis without even seeing me:huh:. I mentioned that he does private and she said do i want to see him private? My feeling being if he doesnt want to see me NHS ill be f'd if hes getting my hard earned to see im.
Ahh thanks everyone.
Good luck with the move Karen and hope you found a carpet.
Thanks for that Pink and well done at the dentist, I hope your mouth is healing x
I've had an OK day, had a bit of a episode shall we say, I got frustrated after I'd taken a considerable time and effort to do something at work and then learnt that it will have to be changed because of an agreement someone else had made - long story. Had a tight chest and on the verge of panic but I brought myself back, had a good moan to the children about it, recognised that I was angry about it but that it didn't really matter, had a little lie down and felt OK again - panic diverted. I was feeling overwhelmed with things I have to do and took this minor hiccup out of all proportion - funny what these 'nerves' do to you :)
So, I'm feeling quite proud of myself and more confident tonight. I think I've learnt something from this today, I didn't escalate the feeling of panic, I recognised it and although I was scared I would panic (I know this fearing the fear is the root of the problem but can't stop it - yet) I managed to keep going by acting normal, talking about it and thinking about it rather than fighting or running from it ..... I think I may be getting somewhere :blush:
Hope everyone's OK this evening
Oh yes - Pip, it's supposed to be cold next week, don't forget to pack your longjohns
Love Sam
rockbottok
24-10-12, 22:51
Hey guys it must be a anxiety thing with living with ur mum cos I live with mine too. And my 2 kids do. I live in the annex tho but when I was at my worst my mum had to sleep in my bed with me. Embarressing I know. But I couldn't even sleep
Lou x
hi guys, quiet on here today, hope you are al keeping busy,
pip thanks for that, yea im determined to see it through, although i was shaking like a leaf on tues, the dentist is lovely and told me to sit for a while in the chair till i felt better :blush: nothing much planned for the weekend probably some more christmas shopping, which i did yesterday, hey ive heard of doggy love....but taking a bit of him into your meeting :D when do you go away ??? really hope you enjoy it, im sure you all will speak soon xx
paul what a disgrace the trouble your having seeing a pysc, and agree with you, you should be seen on the nhs, they should know how you have struggled, coming off diazapam, the drink,and trying really hard to get your meds right, :mad: it really makes me mad, hope you get something sorted out soon xx
sam well done for overcoming the panic, you are doing really well,and should feel proud of yourself. and yes you are getting somewhere at last, i tink the coping mechanisim is as important as the meds well done you !!! xx
lou hope you are feeling a bit better now, what dose are you taking ???? mums we all need them, and as mums we would all be there for our kids too, just what mums do xx
tracey how are you doing ????
hope everyone else is ok
im having a quiet day in today, feet up and chillin, weather drab so the best place to be, and my son cheered me up too, after our usuall conversation on the phone, how we are etc , oh by the way mum whats handsome and hangs up ??? i was asking him what he meant and realised i had the dialing tone......yep he had hung up :D he did ring back tho, but it cheered me up, hes always the joker xxx
Hi all
There's nothing to be ashamed of about living with parents, no matter how old we are. It definitely helps us get through the low patches. We would do the same for our own children wouldn't we?
So I've now had about 2 weeks on 150mg after reducing down from 225mg and although I don't feel as "medicated" now I feel very low and lacking in positivity. My personal life is in a right old state and I just feel like I've completely messed up and I'm not going to be happy again. Sorry for the miserable post but that's just how I'm feeling right now.
Hope everyone's OK x
slowfish sorry you are feeling so low just now, probably down to the reduction in meds, and it wont be helped by the problems in your personal life.
you will definatley be happy again, i know it wont feel like it just now, ecause we dont think rationally when we are suffering anxiety and depression, i hope you have someone you can confide in, but you know we're all here to help you too. one day at a time, you will get there. keep posting, even if you feel down, thats what this thread is here for, take care xxx
josh how are you getting on ?? hve you started ven yet ? xx
Hi all
hope you are all doing well and coping? Freezing cold here in Manchester today with a freezing cold wind.
well me iv'e got another new symptom a heavy feeling in the chest area!!! and it makes me feel like i'm out of breath what's all this about???
Today was going to go about things in the accepting way! and accept my anxiety is up and i'm a little sensitized which worked for a little while.
Then later this afternoon for no reason things were making me snappy and agitated (my poor partner and son copped for it) one of them just has to do or say the wrong thing and wow I'm like a women possessed It's like I know I'm like this but really really can't seem to control or shut up:ohmy:
This isn't depression or anxiety is it???? anyone else like this(bet not mad women)
I've felt like I wanted to cry and for some reason now no tears appear I can't cry, and boy have I had no trouble there before done loads of that in the past
weeks/months. what's this about??? any of you had or been like this guys
well thats my moan, sorry id I'm not more positive guys just bit mixed up. xxx
Also I'm perimenopausal last time went 10 months without p then started again for 5 days then still waiting for another. so all the meno symptoms don't help no wonder i'm cracking up lol
Are you still on 75mg Clio?
I get the heavy feeling in my chest, I've put it down to anxiety stops me worrying about it - I tell myself it's just another symptom, seems to work for me.
Hormones? Frustration? I'm sure you are not really a woman possessed lol....
I have felt a bit flat/low this past few days, I guess the meds can only do so much, the rest is down to positive thinking (easier said than done)
But I do feel that I have made good progress when I look back....I know it can't always be a bed of roses :winks:
Hope you feel better soon :hugs: xx :flowers:
Hope everyone else is doing ok, big hugs to you all :bighug1:xx
Evening!
Just got in and, surprise surprise, I'm worn out. I think in losing my stamina as I get older! Only half a day left at work and then I'm away until Monday evening. If I disappear for a while, it means I've got no mobile signal out in the sticks so don't worry.
Pink - 4 days away and I just hope the weather's ok. I plan on doing lots of walking with the sneezing dog (who's either got a cold or an allergy but not an infection as far as my limited veterinary skills can tell - he's definitely lively enough and eating more than ever). I've also booked viewings on a few houses. I like going away but don't like anything new so I thought my own holiday pad might do the trick. I'm off all next week so I'll catch up when I'm back.
Slow and Clio - don't give up hope will you? You will get better but it just takes a while for some people. Keep doing what you're doing, staying busy and talking to your GPs, and don't worry about downbeat posts - we're here to support each other through good and bad. :hugs:
Take care
Pip xxx
:hugs: Kitti - our posts crossed. You're dead right that meds can only do so much and the way you've been stretching yourself, no one could accuse you of not helping yourself.
Another :hugs: for good measure!
Pip xxx
HI Kitti
yer still on 75, I am feeling a bit better depression wise, can do thing around house that I havn't really been bothered to to for a while and don't feel quite as down(well that's this week lol)
My mental health worker said when he saw me tuesday that he thought I didn't seem as flat depressed. so that's a good thing. It's just this bloody anxiety thing Iv'e got to conquer.
soz you have had a few rough days, take care chick :bighug1:
Evening all :)
Pink your son sounds lovely, my husbands a joker and still makes me laugh after 24 years together. It helps to have someone around that doesn't take life too seriously and makes time for fun.
Brenda I can sympathise with everything you said. I sometimes feel possessed, I know I'm anxious but still over react to simple things but cannot stop. I don't think we're mad women, I think it's the anxiety taking all emotions out of proportion. I also cannot cry, it would be a great release to be able to but cannot and I get a heavy feeling in my chest too. Good luck with the 'utter, utter acceptance' - I'm still practicing!
Had an OK day, worked, less anxiety and been sleeping well so think I'm on the way out of this blip. Hope everyone else is OK
Love Sam
Hi all. Hope today is a good day for everyone, and for those struggling, hang in there.
Has anyone lost a lot of weight since being on Ven? I had lost quite a bit prior to starting it, but it seems to be falling off me again now. My appetite is ok and I am eating, I don't have the sickness feeling some of you have had....getting a bit worried now....
Already had bloods tested a few weeks back, all fine. I am going to docs next Tues so will see what he says, I very close to 8st now, can't ever remember weighing so little!! Definitely underweight for me....
Big hugs to all :bighug1:stay positive xxx
nicola1980
26-10-12, 16:04
Hi all, well im struggling today, mum and dad went on holiday this morning and ive spent all morning in tears thinking i can't cope without my mum, hubby was fantastic when he got home off his night shift and calmed me down the best he could and refused to go to bed until id calmed down so i took myself off to see my sister and niece for a couple of hours, i was fine whilst i was there but as soon as i got home the panic rose again and i thought my heart was going to pound out my chest :ohmy: so i took a 2mg of diazepam and went to lie down and fell to sleep for an hour, WHY am i like this again??? they went away only 5 weeks ago and i was fine but this time ive had a meltdown :scared15: sorry for the moan guys xxxxxx
Aww, sorry to hear how you are feeling Nic. I guess your parents are your 'safe people' as well as your hubby, so naturally a big void in your life when they are not there to support you. Your hubby sounds like a good man, you are lucky there!
Keep busy and remember, you've had a really tough time recently. It's only natural this will affect you. Stay strong, you will get through this.
Thinking of you :hugs: xx :flowers: xx
nicola1980
26-10-12, 17:52
Thanks Kitti :hugs: my mum is my safe person and i think the fact their on a cruise so shes not contactable all the time is bothering me as before when theyve been abroad i can just call her if i need too, hubby is fantastic bless him but i used to hide alot from him, its only now im learning to lean on him more xxx
8 stone Kitti - I haven't weighed that since I was 8, do you feel physically well thou and have a normal amount of energy? Good to hear you're feeling better x
:hugs: Nicola - try not to question why you're feeling anxious again, you just are - try not to add to the anxiety, it's not a meltdown - just increased anxiety and it will pass, it always does. You've done so well in the past few months, this is just a blip - by the time your parents get back you'll probably be feeling OK again. Take care of yourself to get over this blip and don't beat yourself up about it, it's OK to take the Diazepam, please don't see it as a failure - you've come so far.
I'm still getting peaks of anxiety in the afternoon, usually after I've been busy and come home and cook tea etc. It's not been easy to keep the anxiety in perspective but so far I've managed it and not let it distress me too much. I keep reminding myself it's just the physical sensations of panic because my nerves are worn out - but fear is not far behind. Off on our hols tomorrow, trying not to think about it too much and stay in the moment
Love Sam
Hi all,
Managed to get a mobile signal out here in the middle of nowhere so I thought I'd say a quick hello. Been out for a lovely meal and am just relaxing with my other half and the hound.
I hope you're all well and not too cold - it's freezing down here! I'll be back tomorrow when I've got a bit more time.
Take care
Pip xxx
Sam, I feel fine...fit and well, energy levels normal for me (none lol). Have a fab holiday and hopefully an anxiety free one :hugs:
Pip, enjoy your break...you deserve it. Keep us posted xx
Nic, I hope you are feeling better hun, take care :hugs:
Sober2000june
27-10-12, 12:22
Hi all,
Kitti, regarding weight loss, i'm the opposite since iv'e been on venla ive gone from 15st 9 in april to 18st 4 at present and still rising:lac:. this is the heaviest ive been in my life!! Gone from beeing a 36" waist to struggling to get into a 40" waist:blush:. I would probably accept it more if i was seeing more therapeutic benefits.
Well the party seems to be over with the reduction from 225 to 187.5. Personally i still think the dose is too strong for me. Just looking at it from a Neurological perspective; I believe when I lowered my dose I felt better for several days due to the down regulated neurotransmitters. However now that my system seems to be up regulating again to “restore balance” I am more anxious, depressed and generally wanting to give up.
The other consultant who specializes in addiction WHO IS in my catchment area does not fell the need to see me as he does not see addiction as an issue for me. Now that is a fantastic diagnosis form a consultant who has not even seen me yet. Oh, and hell will freeze before work will pay, so its time to raid the savings. This is going to be fun as we are marketing the house and all the associated property leeches are screaming for their pint of blood!
I can possiblly feel a letter going to Mr Alex Neil( New Scottish Health Secretary) as i feel the health service is failing me on a catastophic level!!
Sorry for the girn, but 15 months of this "existance" is enough!
take care all:hugs:
sam, have a lovely holiday, i'm sure you will once you get there, its the thinking about the change, travelling etc, once you are there you will settle down im sure. i know what you mean about the peaks of anxiety, just spoke to my hubby telling him although i am 100% better than i was, i still feel tired, and kind of medicated, like you are carrying something around with you, he thinks its too soon to start reducing, as i said i would love to be med free,
the thing is everyone thinks im "normal" again and fuly recovered, im sure you'll know what i mean, take care and try and relax hunni xxxx
nicola, your mum will be back before you know it, and you will be fine, leanon your hubby for support, he sounds so lovely, and try and keep occupied, you have been doing so well xx
pip,glad you have arrived safely, and although its cold, get wrapped up and enjoy, as im sure you will, is the cttage nice and comfy??? i know you will be house hunting too, so exciting for you both, hope you are well, and have a well deserved break xx
kitti 8 stone, oh my god, im carrying another half of you around :D but as long as you are well, thats the main thing, you are doing great hunni xxx
hows everyone else this cold weekend ????
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paul our posts crossed, that is so bad, you are being treated terrible, how can you possibly be diagnosed without being seen, do you think the ven dose is too high ? i know i sometimes think that too , but how the hell do you know what to do for the best ??
you know you cant give up, you have to keep fighting this, and get the help you need, and i know you are strong enough to do that.
do what you need to do, fight, although you should'nt have too, but you will get there, but you need help, and they are failing you and that is disgusting, keep your chin up, and you've come this far, and tackled so much you can see this through, your strong enough. take care :hugs:
Hi All
Sam and Pip Have a good hol and let's hope it's anxiety and stress free for you:D
Nic hope your anxiety levels have come down, at least you can still get yourself out and about when your like that which is excellent.
Kitti At least your still eating, so it must be an anxiety issue thats keeping it down.
Well I don't feel as flat depressed as much, but in the morning from waking up are still very bad for me I think about breakfast and I can feel my mouth watering not wanting it, sometimes have been sick after eating it . I have to build myself up to having it because I need food. I get over this hurdle then it's lunch then tea it's the same problem again, the thought of food I really don't want but my stomach is saying yes it churning I have to literally force it down and can't wait for to finish it. I have tried eating it fast, eating it in small bites it's a horrible thing to have to go through every mealtime it's becoming anxiety prevoking and i can't seem to shake it away. I know I am not having enough to eat daily . I don't want those empty stomach ,churning feeling god I wish I could get my appetite back never been this bad before it's always come back within a few weeks nothing like this.
My cbt therapist said I need to get myself sensertized to food smells again when in supermarket go near chicken bar( lol I hardly can get myself there) I am near smells at home everyday and they turn my stomach!
Anybody else gone or going through this????
Hope everyone else hanging in there.
clio, what a shame, i know what you are going through, when i first started on citalopram, i completely lost my appetite, and lived on a coule of bites of banana (can't look at them now) and soda water as i felt so sick, but it gradually came back, and i can eat fine now.
they say little and often, but im sure you've tried that, my hubby used to say, what o you realy fancy and i'll get you it, but there was nothing, so i know what you are going through, hope you get your appetite back soon, just be carefull you dont become afraid to eat, if you dont feel ike eating soon, speak to your gp hunni, have a good weekend xx
nicola1980
27-10-12, 19:19
Hi all, well ve had a much better day, been out shopping this afternoon for a winter coat for jack and then hubbys just cooked us a gorgeous tea bless him :D, i didn't sleep well last night and was wide awake from 2 :mad: it doesn't help that hubby works nights so im on my own but hes now off for 2 nights so ill just wake him up aswel lol!! Clio i suffered awful with the sickness, like you i retched every morning, this didn't stop until my dose was increased to 150mg, it was awful as id be trying to get jack sorted for school whilst retching down the kitchen sink :mad: sometimes id actually vomit aswel, my stomach muscles used to really hurt from all the retching.
Sam hope you have a lovely holiday :hugs:
huge :hugs: to everyone else xxxxxxx
Sober2000june
27-10-12, 21:01
good to hear youre better Nicola:)
Evening!
Having a lovely time. It's freezing cold but good walking weather.
Pink - enjoying my hols thanks. Very relaxing and a great distraction from work. We've looked at 4 houses today - a couple of possibilities but I'm not sure. I'll keep thinking about it. There's always a compromise and that doesn't sit well with my perfectionist nature.
An extra hour in bed tonight! I need all the sleep I can get these days.
Take care everyone
Big hugs
Pip xxx
pip, you think about it its a big decision, i'm a perfectionist too, and so is hubby :D so its usually my way or no way :blush: so take your time and find the right one.
im doing ok too, could do with a wee break tho' but some friends are coming from edinburgh to spend christmas with us so looking forward to that.
have a lovely relaxing time, you so deserve it. speak soon xxxx
hows everyone else today ?????
Hi every body (:
OOOh have a lovely holiday every one who's going away, when I'm better that's the first thing I am going to book as we've not been anywhere this year with one thing and another.
I had a terrible night on Friday and ended up at a out of hours gp unit having a Diazepam jab in my bum of all places, then it didn't even work one weenie bit to bring me out of my panic attack. I'm pretty hit and miss sleeping on Trazodone and was wide awake at 1am that night feeling really anxious, then it just got worse and worse and I'd run out of Zopiclone which always gets me back to sleep or calms me down so that I don't go into a proper panic attack. Feeling much better now but just a bit nervy as I'm off to my Sister's 40th Birthday in an hours time and don't really feel like partying yet but have no choice but to go and be there for her!!! This illness hey, it's a night mare but even if I feel rubbishy all afternoon, which I'll bet won't even be the case once I get chatting to people. I dunno about every one else but if I've had a bad panic attack I am always more cagey about my anxienty for a few days until I've not had an attack for a few days and then I feel alot more calmer.
Aw Nicola, so sorry you're not feeling too great too this weekend, you've not really been on Ven all that long really though so even though you've had so many good days recently, maybe you're still not quite there to feel 100% normal again all of the time. I'm beginning to feel anxious about moving to my flat this week and my Parents not being there, I don't even have a telephone yet in th eplace only my mobile even though my Mum's said she can always stay with me if I do feel panicky but I'm trying to tell myself not to be so silly because 6 months ago I lived 100 miles away from my Parents and used to spend hours on my own and never think anything of it and it's all just down to the illness and irrational thinking is part of the illness and worrying over everything you'd never normally bother about.
Clio, I sympathise. I struggle with eating through the day, especially first thing but can normally eat normally by tea time. I'm so glad I have to take Trazodone at night as one of the probs I had with Ven was taking it with food on a morning especially when it was making me so sick. My Mum does toast for her and my Dad every morning and even that makes me still feel sick, it's like being preggers again (;
Paul hope you feel better too. Hope I've not missed any one out (:
nicola1980
29-10-12, 09:56
Hi all, well its a very sad day for me today, my Grandad died suddenly last night :weep: i think im still in shock at the min, hardly slept at all and to make it worse my parents are in the middle of the ocean somewhere on a cruise and can't get home, im trying so hard to keep it together but i keep crying and feel the panic rising, i keep telling myself this is normal grief and shock but i really want my mum who must be going through hell herself being stuck so far away :weep: xxxxxxx
Ah Hun you really going through it again sending lots of hugs and I'm sure grief has added to it especially being sudden.
I'm on wag to isle of wight and was looking forward to it but anxiety trying to get a crip again after doing so well.
Will we ever fully recover?
How's everyone else?
Ps I got my job start 5th November as a teaching assistant to reception kids am hoping it will help with this stupid illness as well x
Aww Nicola, so sorry to hear your sad news. I am thinking of you & sending big hugs to you.
:hugs:
:hugs::hugs: Take care xxxx
Hi anyone here had problems with their anti-depressant after having gastroenteritis? Was really ill last week but have picked up physically but feel very low, weepy, anxious and scared emotionally. Was fine until I was ill...taking Venlafaxine....took all my correct doses but wondered if being sick etc may have messed up their effectiveness??
Thanks Annip
nicola so sorry about your grandad, what a shock for you, you will be worried about your mum too, sending you hugh hugs :bighug1:and will be thinking of you ad your family, you are probably still in shock, and suffering real grief, remember to lean on that lovely hubby of yours take care xxx
tracey hope you have a lovely holiday, im sure you;ll be fine when you get there, travelling can be stressfull, and well done getting the job xx
annip. yes you've probably lost some of the dose having a stomach bug, you whould feel better soon,once the dose settles again take care xxx
pip hope you're taking it easy xx
hows everyone else ???
had a very busy day yesterday, shopping with my neice an sister in law, dinner at my mums with my son and his fiance so there was a nice crowd of us there, felt well, and really enjoyed it.
got up this morning, and feelvery flat, tracey you are right will this ever go completely ????
Hi everyone,
Just back from the hols. Had a great time but it's always good to be back.
Nic - sorry to hear about your grandad. I know what it's like and it's so sad to lose someone close. Try to remember all the good times you had and make sure you're getting plenty of support from the family - it must be difficult with your parents being away. Look after yourself.
Take care
Pip xxx
Nicola I am so so sorry to hear about your Grandad, you poor thing, it's been such an horrible year for you hey, thinking of you (:
So glad you had a nice holiday Pip x
Evening all,
Very quiet here today. I've just had a lazy day doing very little and it's been lovely. Nothing to report apart from feeling fine.
How is everyone?
Pip xx
Hi Pip,
Good to hear you had a lovely break away and have a few days to relax back at home now. Feet up, glass of wine....I can just see you now!!
I have been a bit up and down this past week, saw my GP today, discussed an increase but I am a bit reluctant just now so we are going to wait a couple more weeks to see if I stabalise. I still have the un-resolved work issue hanging over me which he thinks is affecting my mood/anxiety, and my rapid weight loss is a worry too so I have more blood tests tomorrow and an appointment for the results next Tuesday.
Strange how you can feel so great one day and feel like you are back to square one the next. It's upset me a bit as I really thought I'd cracked it :lac: Never mind, I am keeping as positive as I can so hopefully I will be feeling as good as new tomorrow. What a rollercoaster. Still, Rome wasn't built in a day eh? :winks:
Enjoy the rest of your week off and take care,
Kitti :hugs: x
Hi Kitti,
I really feel for you - it's awful when you get a setback when you thought things were getting sorted. You will get there but it does take time to settle on these meds - I reckon it took about 3 months for me to be stabilised and then I had to increase a few months later. You're definitely going about it the right way and you're so positive that I know you'll be fine. The job situation really won't be helping but I think waiting to increase is a good idea. If you do need to increase though, it's nothing to worry about.
I know it can be really difficult to put weight on - I've always had that problem. At one point, I weighed less than 9 stone (I'm 6' 2") and I was really worried I was going to be seriously ill. I've managed to put on a couple of stone since then and I feel much better. When your anxiety's under control, you'll find it easier to put weight on.
Look after yourself and big :hugs: from me.
Pip xxx
Aww, thank you Pip, you always make me feel better :hugs:
You know me, always look on the bright side :winks: xx
morning guys, pip glad you had a good break, and yes you're right its always nice to get home again, and you still have a few days to relax, hev you settled on the 150mg, and do you feel better for it ?? enjoy the rest of your break xxx
kitti i really feel for you too hunni, but your attitute is brilliant !!!! so i know you will get there,i am having the opposite problem to you just now, since being on ad's i have gained over 2 stone, and i am just a wee bit thing so it really shows....wow pip 6'2" and 9 stone, you needed to get some weight on, but kitti you will get there one day at a time, and when you start to feel better you will put on a bit of weight.
i think like pip you are right to wait before increasing your dose, see how you settle,
a busy day for me yesterday, taking my parents for appointments, shopping etc, but i felt good, this morning nothing much planned, just settling down now, but i feel when i am not occupied i still struggle a bit, but im sure its the medication, my friend has now been 2 weeks off the ven, ans feels slightly better now, although she did say something interesting, apart from the withdrawals, she feels more like herself again, not feeling although she's carrying something around with her all day, and less tired. is this something you can relate too pip ???
must admit i feel a bit unsettled as wish it was me, mostly because of the weigh, but my time will come, just think its a bit too soon for me just now.
nicola hope you are coping ok, when is your mum back ????
hows everyone else doing ???
Hi all
Well first chance got on here from isle of wight as can't get on net.
Kitti you not alone, I'm going through hell again it's sods law as really wanted to enjoy this week and feel lost without you guys.
I really should try a lorazapam but scared.
I been on sertraline five months and really not sure where to go but hate the feeling of constant fear grrrrr
Sober2000june
31-10-12, 12:34
hi,:)all
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Pink, Sorry to hear youre unsettled.
Pip, I think i was 9 st in early high school:). Good you can relax. Cant remember when i was able to do that.
Enjoy your hols Tracey.
Saw GP last night and he agreed i go down to 150mg as ive give higher doses a fair crack(almost 3 months at 225). Hoping at 150 the headaches and this f'n right leg thats doing the riverdance will go away:wacko:. He showed me the letter from the latest addiction consultant who is in my catchment area. He still does not feel that addiction is an issue. All this insight without even seeing me. I have stated that i will just see one at the priory $$$. Oh and this shrink has suggested that i go and see the previous one i dischsrged myself from:mad:. My GP is persitant and want to write to him a third time emphasisng my my addiction issues. I explained i would rather pay and see someone who may help than beg to see someone who is obviously fobbing us off. It really gets to me as this was my experience of shrinks years ago. These 6 figure earning meglomaniacs who get to play god with this most vunerable:lac:.
aw tracey so sorry you are feeling bad when you should be enjoying your holiday, maybe once you settle down you will feel better...i hope so , why not take a lorazaam, just to take the edge of for you, it might make all the difference while you're away, sometimes it can be chan that sets us off, being away from ou comfort zone, really hope you can enjoy some of your holiday, thinking of you and sending you :hugs:
paul, what a performance you are going through with the medical proffession, i know you have'nt got much faith in this guy, but do you think it might be worth another consultation, before you have to pay, maybe write things down and tell him exactly how you feel about your last sessions.
paul le tme know how you get on lowering your dose, i know that so many people are over medicated, and sometime i feel that's me. best of luck to you.
did you say you are having problems with weight on the ven ???? i wonder if its our scottish blood :D
Sober2000june
31-10-12, 15:47
My issues are eating simple carbs again. After a healthy lunch had a scone, custard cream and 3 choc digestives BOOM! thats a 3 mile jog to burn those treats off. Note to onself Run fat boy Run. On a serious note; if anyone is siting up late on the pc and munching their way thro loads of treats and white flour products check to see if you feel like sh!t the following morning! Re going back to second shrink, it was me that suggested to him the course of meds to take - in essence he is as much use as a handbrake on a canoe! Currently selling house and we have discivered rising damp so looking at 3grand repair bill not to mention 3 main rooms will have decor trashed. TBH it doesnt bother me that much. The main reason i started meds was to eradicate this dark elusive passenger in my mind.
hi All.
well it seems a few of us are going backwards again!!!
For the last 4 days I have had suicidal thoughts agh!!!! never had these before even years back as Ive had it over 30 years on and off. I can't understand it it's freaking me out I don't know if to go to hospital or just cope myself I can not bring myself to tell my partner again as I think he panicked a couple of days ago when I told him(don't think he knows what to do for the best) leave me alone or smother me and I don't know what I want. I just sit here in a world of my own or doing word search to keep me occupied. I now I have to go to a and e but you know what I can't even cry anymore it's like the ven had an effect on my emotions. cause I used to cry at the drop of a hat. I am hardly eating.
this is my 8 week on ven first 2 weeks 37.5mg then 6 weeks on 75mg. I was doing ok somedays evan managing to get out some and a little bit of housework which I really havn't been bothered with. I am waking up even earlier now 7am as well as a couple of times in the night. when I do wake up a 7 that's when it starts the thoughts on a downward spiral. this up and down thing is the worse ever thing to go through feel like im loosing strength, the depression got a bit better a few days ago, but the anxiety was still high I dont know it seems the thoughts are the most worse thing ever it's making me scared:scared15: my emotions are all over the place.
As anybody gone with suicidal thoughts on ven???
take care everyone xxxx
Nic hope your coping luv
Kitti too xxx
Paul I to went down the priory route just asking prices it's very expensive and it depends where your live it's like you say ££££ and you will be spending plenty every visit. I have private healthcare but the bloody thing doesn't include mental health!!!!!
nicola1980
31-10-12, 17:36
Hi all, well im not coping too well after the death of my Grandad, yesterday was awful, i just cried all morning :weep: my mum can't get home until monday either and aswel as needing her at the min im also so worried how shes coping being stuck out on the ocean, my sister made me go to the docs yesterday as i was a right state and he gave me extra diazepam and said to use them for the next few days, he was lovely, think i was in with him half an hour, he explained to me how grief effects people in different ways but i just want my mum :weep:
Clio i never had suicidal thoughts on the ven but did on mirtazapine, i think you should contact your doctor asap about it and please tell your hubby, i made sure i told mine and my mum when i was having them to the point i made my hubby hide all the meds in our house as i was so scared id do something silly :ohmy: so please get some help :hugs:
Paul good luck with the decrease, you've had it so tough i really feel for you :hugs:
Pink, Pip, Tracy, Kitti, Karen and everybody else big :hugs: xxxxxx
nicola :hugs: thnking of you xxxx
nicola1980
31-10-12, 18:28
Thanks Pink :hugs: really didn't think it would effect me as much as it has :weep: xx
Evening,
I'm off work and supposed to be relaxing but I'm getting bored and I'm trying to find things to do before my mind goes into overdrive and gives me grief. There's only so much dog walking and reading I can do. I think I need to go back to work...!
Clio - I've never had suicidal thoughts on ven but I know it can happen. I agree with Nic, please tell your partner and go back to your GP. You really don't have to suffer this on your own and clearly ven isn't doing the trick for you. Take care :hugs:
Nic - thinking of you hun xx
Pink - I think you'll see from what I said above that I also struggle when I'm not busy but that's me and not the meds. To be honest, I've spent so long being anxious that it's hard to say what feeling like me feels like. The last time I took ven, I couldn't wait to get off it as it did make me feel strange but I could never put my finger on how exactly. This time, I'm happy to stay on it as I'm coping pretty well. I'm pretty sure it's not the ven that causes weight gain directly, I think it's feeling less anxious which reduces the calories you burn off. It also seems to improve my appetite. I'm going to have a bit more of a think about what you've said and I'll get back to you.
Take care
Pip xxx
thanks pip appreciate that so much xx
Sorry to hear so many of us are struggling, I'm including myself in that too.had a horrible week with high anxiety and panic attacks- I'd forgotten just how awful they are, no amount of claire weeks, relaxation or distraction is getting me through it.
Have made an appointment with doc tomorrow, driving home today and then will sedate myself until then
Love and hugs to all
Things can only get better x
nicola1980
01-11-12, 08:37
Sam sending you a big :bighug1: so sorry your having a rough time, panic attacks are truly horrible :mad: good luck at the docs let us know how you get on, thinking of you :hugs: xx
Big hugs for you Sam :hugs: Good luck at the docs tomorrow.
Pip xxx
Hi to all.
Hi Clio. just reading your post takes me straight back to when I took Venlafaxine first. same dose as you. The side effects for me were bad. I felt suicidal...found this very difficult to admit...but told my husband as I was scared what I might do. My anxiety was so high I was in a constant panic and my depression so low. I felt constantly agitated and couldn,t settle at anything. Even watching TV was hard work. Taking diazepam through it helped and sleeping tablets. I managed somehow to see it through. It took about 8 weeks to start to feel a bit more normal and each day I had longer periods of time when I felt like me. After that the venlafaxine was brilliant.
See your doctor though and talk about this.
Hope you start to feel better soon
Annip
Hi All
Thank you very much guys for your concerns, told partner last night and he said oh god no when asked when do I next go to GP(which is next thurs) got my appointment with psych 1st one on monday so will tell her everything.
I prob end up on psych ward(god I hope not) got to sort myself out. Got really upset crying this morning when going through it again going to ring mental health team worker.
Nic. sorry about your grandad it's awful losing a person close, :bighug1: :bighug1:
sam hope you got home ok today and not to stressful.:bighug1: :bighug1:
Kitti hope your feeling a little better. :bighug1: :bighug1:
pip thanks for your concern :bighug1:
take care and take it an hour at a time guys, if we get through that we've done well for today.
take care everyone xxx :bighug1: :bighug1:
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Hi annip
Just read your post, this gives me hope !!!!
Thanks for sharing this .
take care :bighug1:
Hi all
Well managed to get on here again and see I'm not the only one struggling.
I'm so scared and feel like I'm going mad with this ongoing battle in my head, I just don't get it as was doing so well, what the hell did we all do to deserve this cruel illness that no one can see.
I feel so guilty as I'm on holiday with my family too, wish I could rewind a year.
Sorry for rant, I'm just feeling alone and scared but thanks Nicola for your text messages it really has helped this week xx
nicola1980
01-11-12, 19:26
Hi all, well looks like its big :bighug1: all around :bighug1: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well ive had a better day than yesterday, spoke to my mum this morning on the phone which was nice and my cpn came round to see me which helped aswel, i guess at the min ive just got to go through the grieving process but thankyou for all your kind words :hugs: xxxx
Hi Everyone,
Back from our break and anxiety is sky high - have resorted to our old friend Diazepam which thankfully is taking the edge off it. This blip has been going on for 4 weeks now since I had what I thought was a bug causing nausea and diarrhea, I've had few OK days but in general I'm worse than I have been for 6 months :weep:
The past 5 days have been tough and I've decided the Prozac if defo not doing the trick and to change to ???. Lots of research to be done before my Dr appointment tomorrow at 4 - tried Imipramine (took for 4 months), Lofepramine (took for 3 weeks), Venaflexine (lasted 3 days), Citalopram (lasted 3 days) an MAOI - (took for a week) and finally Fluoxetine which I've been on at low dose for nearly 9 years. I'm not keen on trying a SSRI again - ended up in hospital after Citalopram, the Tricylclics sedate me but I have a heart condition now and are not advisable - so thinking either Buspirone, Amitriptyline (low dose) or Duloxetine.
Tired, scared and despondant
Sorry Sam x
Hey everyone!
Im back from wedding/holiday!
Had a wobbly few days leading up to the main event, but had my trusty diazepam to help. Strangely enough the day of the wedding i was fine?
Now im back home i seem alot better for the break away, and im impressed that i did it with no real problems :)
Heres a few pics :)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c300/gav_113/0172.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c300/gav_113/0127.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c300/gav_113/0110.jpg
I think ive come along way since 4months ago!! There is light at the end of the tunnel after all!! :)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! :wub::cupid::cloud9:
Well done Gav, fab pictures, Glad to hear you had a good day. Your wife looks beautiful.
Big hugs to you both :bighug1: Wishing you both a long and happy life together.
Kitti xx
Thanks kitti!..x
It was a wonderful day!
How are you doing now? Hope your still on the mend :)
Oh, I'm ok Gav, bit up & down this week. Discussed upping to 150 with doc but I don't really want to just yet, still early days and keeping as positive as I can. Had some more blood tests about my weight loss, get results next Tues. Will review ven dose again in 2 weeks. Still, I am definitely better than I was....
Take care (both of you!!!)
nicola1980
02-11-12, 00:24
Congratulations Gav :D told you you could do it :D lovely pictures x x
How you doing Nic, thinking of you hun :hugs: xx
Congratulations Gav - great photos and I'm so pleased it all went well. You've worked so hard and you really deserve it! You're a star!
Pip x
nicola1980
02-11-12, 08:33
How you doing Nic, thinking of you hun :hugs: xx
Hi Kitti, im bearing up, just taking one day at a time at a time :hugs: xxx
Congratulations gav, pics look lovely.
How's everyone? I'm still not great Ended up taking a lorazapam last night then fell asleep.
I'm wondering how much is hormones too (sorry guys) as happened same time last month so my hubby worked out so will keep an eye on that.
Im upset as loved holidays and now find relaxing so hard.
Nic thanks again for your support thusly week especially when you already going through a tough time.
Well off home today x
congratuations gav !!!! love the pics youe wife looks gorgeous, and you very handsome, so pleased you were able to enjoy the day, you have come so far, well done. all the very best to you both for a long and happy life xx
sam so sorry you are having it tough, it is so hard to get the right meds and dose, it can be soul destroying getting it right, really hope you get something sorted out soon take care xxx
tracey it might be an idea to tell your gp that you think it might be hormonal adding to it, relaxing can be so hard to do when we are feeling so anxious, and all we want to do is relax :mad: i feel for you, take it easy xx
nicola hope you are bearing up, thinking of you xx
pip hows the week been, i know you were missing work, hope you've managed to relax a bit xx
paul are you ok ???
hope everyone else is ok xx
not too bad here, just feeling a bit flat, but plodding on xx
Lovely pictures Gavin and it's great to hear that you were able to enjoy it.
:hugs: Nicola :hugs:
Morning Pinky - another poor nights sleep, took 2mg Diazepam at 8pm and 2mg at 11pm and slept for a few hours. When I woke I must have slept with my ear bent back and it really hurt :D, I managed to turn myself over - it felt like the duvet was concrete but my ears still sore?
Feeling a bit brighter now the sun's up.
I've decided to change to Escitalopram - done lots of reading and it comes in liquid form so I can titrate how much I take accurately to hopefully reduce the side effects, seeing my GP at 4 and although he's rubbish he usually will agree with whatever I suggest:blush:
Love and hugs to all
Sam
sam, yes i was offered escitalopram by my pyc when i was on citalopram, he said it was easier to tolerate, and some people got good results from it, jarrod takes it and it has been great for him, so good luck this afternoon, certainly worth a try.
at least you still have your sence of humour, i laughed at your bent ear :D sorry !!!
in the meantime take your diazapam, ont suffer, it will help till you get things sorted.
take it easy and let us know how you get on :hugs:
congrats Gav pics are lovely off you both, looks a lovely place.
Well Guys I'm still here no psych ward mustn't be that bad after all (only joking)
felt a bit better after my mental health worker came round chatted to me and partner for hour did lot's of crying my eyes today look like slits look really good guys!!! Didn't sleep very well should of really took a D before bed but me being me thought I'd be ok silly girl:doh: so feel really tired and bit flat today it's so hard to get motivated when you have no energy and lack of sleep. MHT ringing me today to check on me and see if I need help over weekend should be fine just going to do what I want to do and nothing more. going to get myself dressed today to feel a little better. psych on monday so see what she has to say. need to get stronger guys but it's so bloody hard when you get 1 step forward and 2 steps back. oh well onwards and upwards.
Sam I get that with my ears sometime it's like your eyes twice the size and it bloody hurts i call it caulflower ear:D
I was on cipralex for over 4 yrs, 20mg a day thats the highest dose but it must of stopped working for me hence venlafaxine. I don;t remember any bad side effects but then it was a while ago. This thing is a horrible illness and really puts us to the test.
Nic glad your feeling a little better take it a hour at a time, if you get through that give yourself a pat on the back:bighug1:
kitti hope your managing ok
Gav don't be over doing it, take it at a slower pace now stress of the wedding is over.
everyone else is coping ok, xxx
Big hugs to all today, especially if you are having a tough time :bighug1:
Clio, sorry to hear you have been so low, hope you get through this blip ok. I am sure the psych will help you. You sound more positive today so thats good :hugs:
Sam, Tracey & Nic....same to you ladies, sorry you are having a bad time, I am sending lots of positive thoughts your way.
Paul, I hope things improve for you too.
Pip, you want to be back at work??? Wow, you must really be doing well!! Relax and enjoy your last few days of rest & relaxation.
Pink, I hope your day improves, it's such a rollercoaster eh?
I'm ok, lots of things on my mind so I think this is what triggers my low days. Staying positive though.
Sorry if I have missed anyone (very forgetful atm...is this normal? :wacko:) Kitti xx
nicola1980
02-11-12, 14:24
Hi all, just been to see my Auntie to help with the funeral arrangments, i was surprisingly calm whilst there but now im home ive got the bloody shakes :mad: i managed to sleep better last night, only woke the once but got back off fairly quickly again which is good as ive hardly slept since sunday, think im going to take a 2mg of diaz and have a lie day. :grouphug: all around xxxxxxx
Hi Nic well done you hun, was just thinking the same myself about taking a D but only had one at 10am so maybe to early Im not shaking just feel exhausted and can't relax enough to sleep.
Tracy shouldn't you be starting new job Monday?
hugs to everyone else and keep with it guys xxx:bighug1:
Do any off you get snappy and angry at times with your other half? I feel a right bitch sometime really feel sorry for him! but I can't help it I say it before I think.
How do you peeps motivate yourselves as at the mo i'm finding it really hard
I can relate to that Brenda - on Monday I was really snappy with my husband all day, I say things I realise afterwards were not really needed - I blame it all on anxiety :mad: everything, even my grey hairs and the rain.
As for motivation - I've got a little I guess, things I've got to do - walk the dog, cook, wash clothes etc. Sometimes I wish I could just lie in bed and wallow but my husband has to work and the kids need normality - I think I scare them enough as it is:wacko: So everyday I get dressed, put make up on, go through the motions even if I don't feel like it, hoping that I'll glimpse at a little peace or joy during the day. I try to act normal, I don't deny that I feel like poop but accept it.
I haven't taken any Diazepam yet today, still a bit hungover from the 4mg yesterday - I'm a lightweight with meds and will try to avoid taking any until I've seen my doc. Do you take any sleeping tablets Brenda? I was told to avoid Diazepam and Zopiclone together but didn't sleep that well on Diazepam alone - I'll have to remember to ask him when I see him. I'm not good at the docs - even though I work with them everyday :shrug: and am usually confident but as soon as I start trying to talk about how I feel and what I think I need I feel foolish and like I'm wasteing his time ... I end up asking how he is and how the family are etc - bloomin heck, right going to write a list of things to ask him, stay focused.
Will let you know how it goes and will join you for a Diazepam about 5 I think:)
Love Sam
Hi Clio yes you are right I start new job Monday at least I can hide it now I guess.
I also get snappy with hubby as feel guilty when feel bad so end up being resentful when I'm trying to hide it.
Leaving isle of wight now at least kids enjoyed it x
well done nicola, o go and help with the arrangements, just think how far ou've come hunni, so proud of you yep have a rest now, you deserve it xx
clio :hugs: really hope you feel better soon xx
kitti you have a great attitute, even when you are feelig low yourself, one day we will all get off this rollercoaster xx take care
sam
get that list written girl:) and focus on yourself not him
god you do more than me, I don't think ive put make up on for over a year it takes me all the time to get dressed and hair done think that an achievement lol
No I don't take sleeping pills don't want to go down that road as it takes me all the time to take a D always questioning it should I have or not??? im a wuzz
my mental health worker said today just say to yourself I need them for the time being to help me. how many kids do your have sam and what age.
tracy
what do you mean you can hide it? if you mean you can pretend anxiety depression isnt there that's going to be very hard to do hun.
do you live far from isle of wight ? Iv'e been there many years ago went nearly all round it lovely place. crossing might be a bit rough today. how long
:bighug1:
thanks Pink xxx hope ur well hun
Thanks Brenda but although I wrote a list I felt silly showing him and ended up talking about him - he's having his carpel tunnel done next Wednesday! but I do have his mobile number if I need anything before he's back so not all bad. He said to stop the Prozac forthwith and have a clear out period and has given me a script for escitalopram liquid - but didn't say when to start it. I'll give it a few days with nothing and see how I feel.
I do my make up but not always my hair - I'm going for the bohemiem look and either wear it down and scrunchy (messy) or tie it up, I have to wear make up as I developed acne in my 30's which left redness and scarring. My kids are 14 and 15, so pretty independent though the 14 year old boy is an argumentative, know it all at the moment:mad: I feel too poorly to argue with him or correct him at the mo and I find him exhausting - he's a good lad really but full of questions and doesn't stop talking. Yesterday when we came back from North Cornwall he did say thank you for taking us mum, I really enjoyed it - that made my week and probably my month:)
I think I felt like you did Tracey about being away - it was really tough but the kids enjoyed it. I don't think i would of felt any easier at home though - my anxiety is still just as high now I'm home again. I try to act normal with my husband and kids but if they do ask me how I am - I always tell them the truth, I think that way they can understand why I'm snappy and need to be quiet sometimes. At work I only confide in one colleague - my boss - when I'm feeling crap, I don't tell anyone else - or if I do say I'm not feeling great I don't tell them the extent of it or blame it on a physical ailment.
I try to work no matter how I feel, it really does help me - acting normal and being useful. Are you working full or part time?
nicola1980
02-11-12, 18:38
Sam glad you got on ok, was thinking of you :hugs: good luck with the escitalopram xx
sam
Have to do my hair it's in a bob and fine and gets greasy easy aghhh but not long enough to put up could really do with a cut but can't manage that at mo
what you like, glad you got something sorted. I didn't know they did cipralex in liquid mine was tablet 20mg. you are brave to carry on regardless don't think I could carry on doing a job feeling that crap, well I know I couldn't cause I finished work when I was 50 and going through a bad time and just couldn't carry on anymore it was doing me more harm than good,i'm now 55 but don't tell anyone:D
have you got enough d's to see you through the come down? didyou forget to ask when you should start it.
i'm just going to try to chill tonight, I've put some lavender oil in potpourri to relax and calm me haha, I'll watch a bit of tv and will take a d at 9ish and hope it knocks me out for when I go to bed!!!
take care xxx:bighug1:
Well finally home and bloody tired.
In answer to questions I start mon as a teaching assistant and it's full time.
I can hide it now but couldn't a few months back when I was at my worst, I also find kids keep me busy so hoping it will help me along as well.
I have to say my three tested my patience this week though lol
I've got 18 x 2mg Diazepam and 7 Zopiclone (I think I was given 28 in March) so plenty to see me over the weekend, I've never taken more than 6mg of Diaz a day and haven't taken any today :D. Feeling calmer tonight, still got the physical sensations but mentally calmer, could be cos I've got a plan now, or cos I've been told to stop the Prozac or could be just because, who knows. I've just put some lavender oil on my pillow and am settling into bed.
Glad you're home OK Tracey - holidays are exhausting for mum's. Hopefully you'll have a relaxing weekend
Night all
Sam
Evening all,
Had a tough day or 2 so I've just been keeping a little quiet. Feeling better now and I've treated myself to fish and chips and a glass of wine - we know how to do things with style up North you know!
I actually need to get back to work because I've got too much time to think at the minute and that's the worst thing for me - I'm back on Monday so normal service should be resumed.
Hugs to all :hugs:
Pip xxx
Crossed posts Pip
Big:hugs:
I think it's the full moon - it seems most of us are having a tough time at the mo :shrug:
I'm back to work Monday too, I've been thinking OMG there's no way I can work in this state but hopefully the distraction of work will help us recover.
Night night x
nicola1980
03-11-12, 10:55
Hi all, well not having a good day today, woke up at 6 in a panic so took a diazepam and went back to sleep till 8, feeling very sad today and keep crying, just want to see my mum and know shes ok....well as ok as she can be in the circumstances, i spoke to her on the phone this morning and shes bearing up but just wants to be at home with us all, supposed to be going to a firework display tonight but really don't feel like it but i have to go for jack. Hope everybody else is ok :hugs: xxxxx
hi all
well slept last night:yesyes: only thing is was awake at 7 too early to get up for me but couldn't for the life of me get back to sleep. just having breaky now as can't eat early never have been able to so ven and d next!! next step to get shower and ready, going to try and motivated and be happier today a bit more it's so hard when there's nothing there could do with somebody injecting me with some inspiration and happiness.
life seems so boring the same old thing day in day out( sorry guys)
going to see if I can get myself out of the house today not been out for a week not be up to it, but got to get strength from somewhere and start.
well that's my moan for today hopefully guys sozs
hope everyone is ok hugs to you all xxx:bighug1:
Hi all
Well home and big hugs pip,Nic,Sam and Clio.
Guess what I'm feeling rubbish too and trying to distract with housework.
I'm starting my new job Monday praying change will be good also joined a gym so I'm trying everything.
We were all doing well couple weeks ago maybe it's winter blues who knows but I hate this hanging over me.
I'm out for dinner tonight with my mum to celebrate my job and just know she will ask if had nice holiday it's hard as I'm sure she thinks pull yourself together.
Hey ho rant over. I'm going to put a smile on or paint it on at least lol xxx
rockbottok
03-11-12, 15:56
Hi guys. Count me on the feeling crappy. Have been for a couple of weeks :( maybe a little increase is needed. I've got a date tonight and feeling like I want to cancel. Hate feeling like this. My head feels fuzzy and heavy. Is that anxiety??
Can't believe we are all feeling like this at same time. Must admit I hate this time of year. Cold and wet.
Clio sorry to hear about those thoughts hun. I used to get really really bad intrusive thoughts before I started the ven. Worst part for me they were as it was always something associated with my kids. And I've come to the conclusion that is because they are the most important thing in my life and my anxiety is always over them. My worst fear in life is for anything to ever happen to them as I would never ever forgive myself.
Hope everyone is starting to feel better
Lou x
Big :hugs: to everyone who's not feeling too good. The time of year definitely isn't helping and it's so cold and wet.
Lou - if you go on your date, good luck. Maybe that's just what you need.
I'm off for a lie down for an hour or so. Take care and I'll be back later.
Pip xxx
Aww, big hugs to you all....funny we are all feeling a bit crappy this week. Oh the joys eh?
:hugs: :bighug1: :hugs:
Clio, you are sounding more positive hun, well done, keep at it!!
Lots of love to you all xxx
:hugs::hugs: to all of you feeling bad at the moment
lou good luck tonight heavy fuzzy head is anxiety.....a wee drink and you'll feel better, let us know how it goes.xx
not keen on this time of year either :mad: curtain shut by 5pm, still its nice and cosy, what an interesting life i lead :blush:
pip hope you are feeling a bit better, i am today, had a day in, and took on board what you said, and its really helped. :hugs:
Hi All
Just checking in to see how were all doing,?
well did as I said and went into town with partner was bit scared but did it:yesyes: as havn't really been getting out much.but it went ok
god I can't believe it xmas decorations up and xmas tree!!! I had look around for pressys for son at 23 he's into all the name gear or nothing cheap there!!
I do hope I feel a bit better this xmas as this time last year I was really poorly as well and couldn't wait for xmas day to be over the stress etc.
Thanks Kitti I am trying hun how you doing pm me anytime
love and hugs to everyone suffering:bighug1:
nicola1980
03-11-12, 19:57
Clio well done on getting out :yesyes: i was supposed to be taking jack to a firework display tonight but hubby has just took him as my chest is playing up, i have asthma but think im in for a chest infection as spent most of the afternoon asleep with a high temp and a hacking cough :mad: big :hugs: to everyone xxxxxx
Hi all
Quick check in.
Had a better evening as my mum took me and my little girl out for dinner to celebrate my new job and felt the fear lifting through evening.
Hope we all have a better ween next week and is so strange we all having it bad at same time. I love Christmas be nice to enjoy it but one day at a time xxx
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Ps Nic rest up hun you need to the week you had x
clio well done i remember just how hard it is to get to the shops, so a hugh step for you :D i have a son just the same, buys all the designer gear, so christmas is a nightmare knowing what to get him.
we are having friends stay for christmas, so hoping i will be a bit brighter by then.
not a bad day for me, although like you nicola i have a terrible cough, just seems one thing after another just now. and the dreaded dentist on tues looming ever nearer :scared15:
Evening all,
I think this cough must be going round. I've had real problems with my asthma for the last couple of days which is unusual. I hate having to take my inhaler as it makes me a bit edgy but at least I'm not wheezing all night.
Not such a bad day though I had to go to bed for a couple of hours as I felt a bit under the weather. I'm going to have a nice lazy day tomorrow and then it's back to work.
I hope everyone's feeling a bit better soon.
Take care
Pip xxx
Hi all
well slept ok woke about 6 but managed to drop back off till 8. felt ok when finally downstairs but now after about 2 1/2 hours feel a bit flat bit sickly like i'm going to start heaving mouth watering ?? felt good yesterday after shopping and feel like now back to square one!!! what's that about. everyone else seems to be managing and able to things I feel sooo jealous guys how do you do it?? maybe I havn't got the push?? some off you still manage to go to work no way I could do that but I suffer from social phobia, and a bit of agraphobia as well. I panic when I see somebody I know, I have cut myself off from the outside world as it is too stressing so my world is small. I've had this illness so for so long on and off it's killed my confidence to the we don't go out any more socially my partner goes to do's on his own as I can't do it. He is great, even cooks and shops.
Oh well that's me, going to get dressed now and see what the day brings, might brace the cold and go out for a walk with partner, get wrapped up.
love and best wishes to all:bighug1:
why do I feel like everything is a big big effort guys how do you do it???
Dear Clio - it's not about pushing yourself, the hardest thing to do is tolerate the anxiety and live with it. Please don't underestimate just how much you are facing by just living with the anxiety every day. Going to work and doing stuff isn't a sign of strength, it's just a way that some of us find to cope and live with the anxiety - distraction. I think it goes back to good old Dr Weekes - accept and float through the anxiety - sometimes this is impossible for me even in my own home but at other times I can work and function near normally despite the anxiety. I make the most of the good times and use Diazepam when bad :D.
There's often no rhyme or reason to it, why you went shopping yesterday but today feel anxious - it just is, frustrating and demoralising thou this is try to focus on the positive of yesterday, accept you don't feel so good today and go with it. Try to stop being so hard on yourself - it's OK to feel rubbish, it's not nice but you can't make it something it's not. Go for your walk and try to look around you and notice the leaves, the trees, the rain?!? Oh and I had that mouth watering, going to be sick feeling earlier this week - bloomin horrid, it's gone now so maybe a bug??
Nicola, Pip and Pinky - hope your cough/cold ailments are better today. Thankfully I've not had that this year but anything like that stresses me and makes my anxiety worse :hugs:to all
Good luck on Tuesday Pink - you've done so well, I remember having some crowns done when I was at my worst 10 years ago, it was extremely difficult but toothache is unbearable and you must celebrate your achievement when all done.
TJ - well done for going out last night, I'm pleased you were able to enjoy it. I hope you are taking it easy today and have some easy meals planned for this week - the first week at work is always exhausting. You must take care of yourself in the next few weeks - eat well, lots of early nights and don't do anything extra that you don't really need to with those children of yours! I know what it's like - the guilt and the thinking - I've got to do that for him etc - be selfish for a change and concentrate on you for the next few weeks, they enjoyed their holiday -let this be your time. I'll think of you tomorrow, you'll be fine
A special hug for you Pip:bighug1:, you don't seem your usual chirpy self. I hope you're having a restful day, with the pooch in front of the fire.
Love and hugs to all
Sam
clio great advice from sam, we can ony do what feels right for us, i miss working too, but i had to give it up down to the depression and anxiety, but iknow it was the best thing for me at the time, as i was completely burnt out, my body has taken over 2 years to get to where i am now, ne to say everyone will take this long, and i hadagraphobia, could,nt even go to the front gate at my worse, so it takes time and effort, but we seem to get there, and you will too xx
sam thanks, i know i have done well with the dentist, but i dont find it gets any easier :blush: but i am determined to see it through, how are you ??? hope you are feeling a bit better xx
tracey good luck tomorrow, hope you have settled down a bit too xx
hows everyone else this dreary sunday ??
still got this cough, and feeling shivery, so settling down on the sofa for another lazy day :blush:
rockbottok
04-11-12, 13:09
Hi guys.
Well went on my date and I was fine. Was shaking like a leaf before and nearly turned round and went home. Hate anxiety. Worst illness I've ever had by far.
Lou x
well done lou, is there another one planned ??? im nosey eh !!!
Afternoon everyone,
Still feeling under the weather - I think I'm coming down with something but I'll battle through it. Took Freddie for a nice long walk and he had a good play with loads of different dogs and he's worn out now so I'm going to put him to bed for a couple of hours and I'll have a lie down too.
Clio - don't be hard on yourself. As Sam said, we all have different ways of coping and mine is to keep as busy as possible. I find work keeps me very distracted though it is incredibly hard to force myself there sometimes. I know tomorrow morning will be hard but we all know that anxiety isn't easy and just getting through the day sometimes can take all the strength we've got. You're much stronger than you think and you'd be amazed at what you can do. Little and often is my motto when it comes to pushing ourselves and it seems to me that that's exactly what you're doing.
Sam - thanks for the hug! It's much appreciated. I'm not my usual self at the minute but I refuse to give in to it and will carry on regardless. That's the only way I can cope with it. It's not the meds, just the time of year and a few difficult things that are going on. I'm not feeling great physically either so that doesn't help. How are you doing with your decrease? Have you made the switch to escitalopram yet?
Lou - well done on the date. You're braver than I am! How did it go?
Pink - thanks for your wise words. It's given me reassurance and I know it will work out fine. I'm just such a perfectionist that I want things to be right but having a dog means things don't always go to plan and I have to accept that. It's all about control, as always, and I need to try and loosen up a bit. The story of most of our lives, I guess!
Off to put the pooch to bed and then a couple of hours' peace...
Take care
Pip xxx
I forgot to say in my previous post I didn't work from 2003 - 2006 because of anxiety and never thought I'd get back to work but I've had 6 brilliant years working in a job I love now. That's what keeps me going, the thought that I've done it before and will again, work doesn't make it harder or easier really - it's normality, like Pip says I carry on regardless but I know how hard it is. This time I'm trying my best to keep working.
Well done Lou for going on the date but like Pink said - we need more info now, my Saturday night comprised of having a shower, relaxation and doing the NMP quiz - it's hardly riveting stuff. Is there love in the air???
Hope you're feeling a bit brighter Pink - Sunday afternoon on the sofa in front of the TV is what cold winter days are all about x
Glad to hear a bit more from you Pip - hope you had a good nap and Freddie was quiet for you. Have another :bighug1:
I'm OK - in that I mean I'm still here and alive! I started a thread - only because I kept dipping in and out of different ones, writing similar things about how I was doing on each and felt quite empowered by starting my own to be honest:D So I'm writing on there about how I'm doing, as a kind of diary so I don't hijack anyone else's thread! I'll still come on here though as I find you guys friendly and supportive and want to know how everyone's doing (especially Lou and her date:blush:). Anyway the threads called stopping fluoxetine after 9 years - don't worry you don't have to follow it, feedback or anything, it's more of a help to me than anything else.
Love and hugs
Sam
?How's Nicola today?? :hugs:
nicola1980
04-11-12, 18:49
Hi all, well ive now got a blinking chest infection on top of everything else :mad: im not doing too bad, am battling through the days but will be glad when the funeral is over on friday :weep: my mums back tomo so am looking forward to seeing her, its been a tough week without her but im sure its been worse for her, sounds like a few of us are struggling at the min so heres a :bighug1: to everyone xxxxxxx
Hi all
I wasn't going to post today as hate moaning lol....
Im trying my best to relax but still have that fear lingering and googling etc... i read that meds are supposed to make you feel normal if working and this i dont get as some say it has to come from you...
well start my new job tomorrow so that should hopefully help me although its inset day so wont meet the kids until Tuesday (30 five year olds ):ohmy:
My mum also gone to Egypt today and just got message she arrived, they staying at same hotel me and hubby stayed in may this year. We were going to Florida with them but postponed as no point me being the way i am grrrrr.
Nic :bighug1:back to you hun and anyone else in need. xxxx
nicola1980
04-11-12, 19:14
Good luck tomo Tracy :hugs: hope it goes ok, i really think you'd benefit from a slight increase in your sertraline and moan all you like, thats what we're all here for xxxx
Thanks Nic.
Im at docs monday week and think you maybe right even though some days i dont struggle as such its still there lurking in the background.
I think im scared to increase incase doesnt work then more to come off if you get me lol xx
Nic chest infections are horrible, makes you feel like you can't breath properly. hope it clears soon don't think this weather helps. but stress does a lot to out immune systems.
Tracy. good luck to moz 30 kids OMG(you must be mad girl) only joking don't be over doing it a full time job is no walk in the park.
pip. hope you pick up soon maybe work will sort you out as you like being there,
pink thanks for the advice, yer I gave up work after being with the same company for 20 years it was a hard decision but like you no way could I carry on the way I was and what it was doing to me.
sam thats for the advice hun will try to take it on board:) back to work for you too, take it easy
kitti you ok hun?
hugs to all:bighug1:
Hi all :hugs:
To those having a tough time, hang in there and I hope you feel better soon.
Clio, I am not too bad today hun, thanks. I have my appeal to do tomorrow, not going to think about it until then. Blood test results Tues...stable today but I know I will be stressed tomorrow. Still, not as bad as some on here....Chins up guys. Thinking of you all.
Big group hugs :grouphug: Stay strong y'all xxxx
rockbottok
04-11-12, 21:11
Hiya.
Pinks.....don't know he text me last night etc but heard nothin back from when I text this morning so looks like I'm getting ignored now. My pet hate is being ignored. Just tell me straight I say
Lou :(
his lost lou that's what I say
rockbottok
04-11-12, 21:37
Hey
Oh I know. Just irritates me when someone does that. He didn't seem that kinda guy yesterday. Even text when he got home last night saying he had a lovely eve and wants to do it again. Bloody men are impossible to read. Lol anyway how is everyone??? I haven't even bothered getting dressed today! Couldn't b bothered. Great attitude lol.
Clio how are u feeling now???
Lou x
lou clio's right its his loss, and you looked gorgeous in your fb photo, but hey you did it went on a date and thats a hugh achievement well done !!!
nicola you sound as if your coping well, you can support your mum tomorrow im sure she'll need it, hope your chest infection clears up soon xxx
kitti good luck for tomorrow xx
tracey i feel better on the meds but not 100% normal, i do think the meds have done all they can for me, and the rest is down to me. good luck tomorrow xxx
pip hope you've managed to have a peacefull day, take it easy tomorrow, ease back into work gently......and remember to have a lunch break :winks:
Hi all,
not been feeling great lately and haven't posted here for some time.Still looking at the posts and can picture you all in my mind.I know there are some of us going through a hard time at the moment.Can't think straight at the moment and feeling low and anxious. Down to 150mg Ven ,lowered from 225mg for about 2 and a half weeks now. Luckily no real withdrawal symptons and the sweats in the morning have got much better. Hardly get them now on 150mg.Just feel so flat and keep thinking that it is my body but a differant personality in it. I feel so differant to my normal self.If only I got a glimmer of hope on the Ven,but nothing realy.Been about 4 and a half months now since starting on Ven. After twice it has worked before on 75mg,have been as high as 225mg and just not getting better.Am over in Spain till 17th November and should be happy over here in the warm,mostly sunny weather.Will see my GP as soon as I am back but I know she will probaby suggest going on another med which is causing more anxiety. It is like starting from scratch again and it all takes so much time until you know whether it will work or not.Been through all that before and it was bad.
Having sciatica and being on painkillers for the last week hasn't helped either. Been awful pain at times and not sleeping well,but it's getting better.
I have just read pinks post and she said 'i do think the meds have done all they can for me, and the rest is down to me'. That definately is the same for me. It is so hard for me to get any motivation or 'feel good' emotion in my life,where I should feel realy happy with my life. I have got to help myself but it seems so hard.
I know Nic has been going through a bad time with the loss of her grandfather, and mum and dad being away and big hugs for her and the family at this sad time. :hugs:
Great pictures of the wedding in Cyprus ,Gav. Lots of good wishes for you and your lovely bride. Looked as if you all had a great day. :)
No wonder this is the most popular thread on here. There are so many nice,caring people who post on here.
Will post again when my mind is less foggy and clearer...................and hopefully happier.Life is for living and life is good. I've just got to convince myself this is true. :)
Hi all
Life is so hard sometimes and I know lots of you on here are struggling. It helps so much to share thoughts and feelings otherwise you think you're the only 1. I find my anxiety and paniky feelings come when I feel low, when the depression that I have makes me feel flat, weepy and depairing. My Ven doesn't seem to be working at the moment or it partially is as I have stronger moments but then not so strong moments. If I can distract myself I feel stronger but then get angry/sad when I slip back. I can't hide my anxiety as I cry, start breathing rapidly, sweat and need constant reassurance that I am ok. Well done those of you that carry on. I had to give my job up because of this.
When my Ven is working I don't have to think of any of this. Can't understand why I'm like this suddenley.
Best wishes to you all on here. Thank you for helping.
To samhar my doc didn't want me to have Diazepam and Zopiclone together because he said they are addictive but I stuck out for them...I was desperate to sleep. I came off them very slowly, reducing by the tiniest amount each week.
Annip x
Afternoon everyone,
I've managed to get a lunch break and I've gone out for a walk. I had the most terrible night's sleep and woke up a 4 having an anxiety attack - really nasty. Anyway, after a seriously jittery start with palpitations and the shakes, I got to work and am now feeling much better. Getting to work today was very hard though and I'm lucky that I know things always improve when I'm there - I couldn't carry on working if I was like this all the time.
Although I'm better at work, Mondays are always tough and it's worse when I've been off for a week. I'm taking it as a reminder of what some of you are going through all day, everyday and you have my full sympathy and huge :hugs:. I don't think it's a bad thing to experience it at full speed now and again, it's important not to see it as going backwards though and to recognise the ups and downs that everyone gets, albeit much worse for us anxiety sufferers. Onwards and upwards...
The ven seems to have mostly sorted my psychological symptoms and I'm worrying far less but the physical ones are much harder to crack. I nearly took a beta blocker this morning but decided to fight with the gloves off! I'm winning and am now going in for a total knockout...
I hope you're all ok today and welcome back to Tony. Thanks for your kind words about the people on this thread - I'm pleased you find us kind and caring. I like to think that regardless of how we feel individually, we all support each other. As I always say, we're in this together and there's definitely strength in numbers!
Take care
Pip xxx
tony so sorry you are still struggling, and well done reducing back to 150mg, interesting you say the sweats are better, and no real side effects, this is such a rollercoaster, with all the up's and down's, so hard to get through, but we will.
re changing meds, dont worry about that, it might not come to it, you might settle on the 150mg over the next few weeks, i know its soul destroying, thinking about starting from scratch, but you're not, i was on citalopram for 18 months, before ven, stopped cit one day, started ven the next, with no real problems, just a bit of cit withdrawal, which i could handle.
take it east the next couple of weeks in spain, try not to overthink thinks that might not happen, and take one day at a time, keep us posted we're all here for you :hugs:
annip nice to hear from you, but sorry you are still struggling too, look like a few of us are at the moment, ihad to give up work too, so know what you're going through, really hope you feel better soon hunni :hugs:
pip. sorry you had such a bad night, probably the anticipation of strting back at work, and if you need the odd beta blocker. take it, its not failing, its just giving yourself a wee hand while things are bad, glad you have settled down a bit now, and i know you will get through this, just take it easy :hugs:
well i had the worse night of my life last night, could'nt sleep for coughing, was up a fewtimes having a fag :blush: when i finally dropped off i woke myself up scratching my face :wacko: i now have a big red scratch all the way down one side, dont know whats going on this past week, i feel like i am taking a step back, and its really getting to me now, trying to work out if its since i started this new med for my cholsesterol, which i tke at night, i wonder if its flushing out some of the ven :shrug: or does that sound daft ???? anyway another day to get through...and i will xx
hows everyone else today ???
Hi All
well to all of us out there struggling let's hope things improve for us:)
well for me, been to see the psychiatrist this morning wasn't good start was being sick before I went. well calmed down and got there with partner and from going up to desk she said we have been trying to contact you!!! my thought straight away she not here! and yes she been called out on home visit but the junior psych was there did I want to she her? well I just broke down crying waited 5 weeks to see her and then this. I said ok will see junior doc as was desperate and when she rang through she was off sick and the consultant had rushed back to see me what a cock up!!
I was told she couldn't give me a proper appointment just few mins!! now way was this going to happen I was in a bad way from getting in that room to coming out I hardly stopped crying. She went through few questions and thinks I need to up from 75mg to 150mg ven but me being me and scared of what will happen to me decided to go half way 37.5mg so 112.5mg and wanted to give me promazine low dose for anxiety. So I'm upping to 112.5mg ven for 2 weeks and then see how it goes plan after that is 150mg and maybe promazine as well. very nice lady very understandsing she told me to not underestimate how poorly I am and how bad depression and anxiety is.I was in here 50 min, think she relealized how bad I was and a few mins wasn't going to do the trick So I have another appointment with her again next monday.
So got banging headache now from all the crying, so just going to chill on sofa and try to unwind.
clio what a morning for you, at least you got there in the end, i agree go up in stages, you might feel better on 112.5mg. take it easy the rest f the day, you will be exhausted now.:hugs:
Sober2000june
05-11-12, 17:20
Hi All,
Chime dipping in to say hello. Goto run train to catch try pop in later after fworks with kids
Evening!
Just got in and I'm feeling much better - just a headache which is the lack of sleep catching up with me.
Pink - you're going through the wars as well. You'll look like you've been in a fight if you carry on scratching! You're going to be absolutely fine. Remember that we're both pretty good at sailing through it when we have to. It's time to put you're feet up with a cuppa and a cuddle from Rosie and hubby (not necessarily in that order) and think of everything you've achieved over the past few months. I'll give you a starter - the dentist! I know you're there tomorrow and I'll be thinking of you. You've nearly cracked it now. What a star!
Clio - it sounds like you've had an awful day. At least you got to see someone sympathetic in the end. Increasing sounds sensible - I recently went from 75 to 150. It was quite easy though I also did 112.5 for a week first. Honest, it was fine and I bet you'll feel much better when you've settled on it. It takes a few weeks though so don't be disappointed if you don't feel it straight away. I'm about 6 weeks in and still not quite settled. Have a big Yorkshire :hugs: from me.
Hi to everyone else - I hope you're all ok.
Pip xxx
nicola1980
05-11-12, 18:57
Hi all, well i think its a big :bighug1: all around again for us all :bighug1: well ive not been too bad today, my mum and dad came home and as soon as she saw me she just burst into tears and hugged me, i was so worried about her but she looked surprisingly well but wishes she could have got home sooner, life really sucks sometimes :mad: xx
Hi all
Well we really all having a tough time with the ups and downs at present, very strange its got to be time of year.
Well i enjoyed my first day of school :) altough only teracher training today so meet all the kiddies tomorrow, im very tired and only just sat down but keeping busy is what i wanted.
Pink interesting you say not 100% i have got close some days but cant say im myself, gone through all the am i on wrong meds etc.. but sure im not as alot better than i was 6 months ago as i said with me its the fear that follows me always waiting to take hold grrrr.
Hugs to all :hugs:this year really has been crap lol...xxx
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ps goodluck at the dentist x
Well done Tracey - that's got to be one of the hardest days with no children there to keep you busy, but you did it :yahoo:
Pink - good luck tomorrow
:hugs:to everyone else
Anyone heard from Joy? It's been 4 days since she's posted anything :shrug:
Love to all
Sam
hi guys well done tracey the first day is always the worse, and tomorrow will be easier with the kiddies, hope you manage to enjoy itxx
sam how are you getting on with your meds ??
nicola, glad your mum and dad got home safely, you can comfort each other now, thinking of you all xx
pip glad you are feelin a bit better, get an early night, catch up on some sleep, well i have had to cancel the dentist as i just cant stop coughing, having another lemsip before turning in, next early appointment is 20th nov, but thats ok will give me a bit of time to get over this, but i will complete my treatment.
thanks for all your good luck messages. feel a bit of a failure, but cant face it just now.
hope you all have a good nghtxx
sam now word from joy ? hope she is ok
You're definately not a failure Pink, you're simply listening to your body and putting yourself first - before your anxiety and not trying to fight it but accepting that you're currently poorly with a cold and adding to this stress on your body by going to the dentist would not help your cold or you. I DEMAND that you do not go to the dentist whilst you are feeling poorly and STOP feeling bad about it :blush: Try to be your own best friend - what would you say to a friend in your position?
Hope you feel better soon
:flowers: Sam
Pink - you definitely wouldn't want to be coughing all the time the dentist's working on your teeth. You're right to reschedule. Taking your advice and I'm off to bed now :D
See you all tomorrow
Pip xxx
pink... thanks for your kind words, yes it did exhaust me today, so I just took it easy this afternoon. You are doing the right thing not going to the dentist, you can't go feeling like you do coughing take care xx
pip... thanks for the advice, yer got to give it a go and know it may well take a few weeks take it easy yourself. xx
tracy... good luck tomorrow with the kiddies.
sam... you seem to be doing very well.
Nicola... you will feel slightly better now your mum's back home. it will be the build up know till Friday, once that's over things will settle down a little it's the shock xxx
Kitti... well done for getting your appeal done today, I bet your anxiety was up and you were a little angry at them for putting your through this when you feel like you do. But as we said we are just a number at the end of the day very sad really.
hugs to all:bighug1:
Hi all Mornings really are difficult arn't they.
Pip-sorry to hear about your panic attack but big well done for getting to work
Pink-thankyou for your kind words. I am always careful about what I take with my ven. I go online to check compatability. Maybe your cholesterol tabs are having an effect. Don't worry about the dentist..you can do that when you feel better which I hope is soon.
Clio-so sorry you had such a bad day yesterday. Is promazine the same as diazepam? If so it may help you. The panic attacks etc are so exhasting that they wear you out. Diazepam helped me at my worst time when I was desperate to rest. I took it reluctantly as I was scared of it. If you had a broken leg you would have meds and you would have to rest. Hope today is better for you
Nicola-glad to hear your parents are home. Stay strong
Samhar-hope things better today for you
:yahoo:to all annip xx
Hey all.. hows everyone doing?
Im having abit of a low day?? first in a while, think im over tired? puts me abit on edge, and have a slight headache.
I go into panic mode when i dont feel right, i must stop this because i guess its only natural to have off days. I just dont feel with it today tho :(
Hugs to everyone!!
Hi Spawn
Are you Gav?
Sorry to hear you're not so well today. Relax if you can and do something to try and take your mind off your anxiety. I find being on here really helps.
Everyone is so supportive
Annip:yesyes:
Hi Spawn
Are you Gav?
Sorry to hear you're not so well today. Relax if you can and do something to try and take your mind off your anxiety. I find being on here really helps.
Everyone is so supportive
Annip:yesyes:
Hey yes im Gav! :)
Im back to work full time so its hard to relax, ive got my own business.
But im making a extra effort not to get stressed out!
Im slowly feeling abit better than earlier, had 2.5mg of diazepam.
Just having abit of lunch now.
Hi all
Seems like quite a few are struggling - hope you all feel a lot better soon.
I've now been on 150mg for a few weeks and not doing too well at the moment. Really low mood, constantly tired, aching neck/shoulders... Went to the GP this morning and he's put a referral in so I can chat with a pyscharatrist. He mentioned possibly changing over to escitalopram but I just don't know if I can manage changing over to another med!
Evening guys,
Still no Joy then?? I'm going to PM her as I'm getting worried now.
Slowfish - I've been prescribed Escitalopram liquid to start as I've weaned myself off Prozac, I've had no problems with stopping the Prozac and currently feel so good I'm waiting before starting the Escita. The good news is that for most people it's a quicker acting medication with fewer side effects, I researched lots before deciding to try it and it comes in liquid form so you can start really low, it's absorbed quickly too so if you wanted to you could divide the dose across a day to help reduce the side effects if you do get any.
I've been on Prozac for 9 years and changing to a new med is scary and something I've avoided for a long time even though I knew the Prozac wasn't helping me much - better the devil you know and all that. Try to keep an open mind about changing the meds - what's the worst that can happen? Nothing that Diazepam and time cannot help with, it may seem overwhelming now but you will find the strength and resolve to do whats right for you.
Hope your feeling better today Brenda, Pinky, Pip and Nicola
How's today been Tracey?
How you doing Sober?
Love to all
Sam
HI sam
bad morning but managed to get to cbt this afternoon. doctor's rang today to say new prescription ready to pick up so will be on 112.5mg from thurs. can only see how it goes and just try to get on with thing best as possible:)
You seem in good spirits hope it continues for you hun.
hope everyone else's day as been as good it gets for them xx
Hi all
Sam I'm doing ok at the moment, the new job helps take my mind of it and the kids are so lovely. Pleased you feel good. Let us know about joy as often think of her, hope she ok.
Why you coming of Prozac? Nine years a long time.
I wonder if sertraline the med for me as never had a day where I don't think of my illness but all new to this and rather be 90 percent than risk going backwards again.
How's everyone else?
william wallace
06-11-12, 21:02
Hiya folks. It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd better let the folks that know me know that I'm ok. Still taking my Sertraline 150mg every morning and doing really well, best for two years. The new business venture is going very well, so much so that I have my retired bro in law helping me a couple of days a week.
We have Holly this weekend so I'll post a pic cheer you guys up ok.
:hugs:all round even the blokes.....
Evening everyone,
Ok here - settled back in at work after my week off and I'm feeling much better. I think the moral of the story is not to have any holidays! Slept much better last night though I'm still having some very strange dreams on this med. They're so vivid and seem to recur all night. I remember this from the first time I was on ven but I'm sure they subsided after a while.
Slow - if you think you've given ven long enough then it's probably worth a change. I know it can be quite scary but different meds suit different people and the right one could be just round the corner. I was on sertraline for a (very short) while and it was horrendous but then changing to ven was fine and such an improvement. It must be worth a go.
Gav - how are you feeling? I know it's strange being back at work after time off and it must be more so for you having had such a big event. You've done so well that I know you'll soon be back on top form. How's married life treating you?
Joy - if you read this, let us know how you're doing. We miss you :hugs:
Pink - are you feeling a bit better? I hope you haven't been scratching again!
Kitti - have you heard anything from work?
Tracy - the job sounds great. Rather you than me though with a room full of 5 year olds!
Sam - you're sounding better. It's not a bad idea to give it a few days to see how you get on before starting the new meds. It'll be interesting to know how you get on as I don't know anyone on escitalopram.
Clio - let us know how your increase goes. As I said, I've been through this recently and I'll support you all the way.
Anni - I hope you're feeling ok today :D
Hi to anyone I've missed - I hope you're all ok.
Take care
Pip xxx
Hey Pip, married life is much the same..lol
I've been feeling abit all over the place today, think its just coz I'm back to work and got loads on..etc
My dreams are very vivid and strange! It's quite scary! I've only had them like this since being on ven?
Well I've had my bath and I'm off to bed, nite all!
:bighug:Mr W, great to hear your doing so well. Remember to take some time for you though - all work and no play may make Mr W have poorly again and we don't want that. A picture of the beautiful Holly would be lovely, I bet she's running and talking gibberish by now? I will try to post a picture of Pep on here later, she's 9 months now and yesterday she ate the carpet by the front door, the children couldn't get in after school because she'd pulled it back :shrug: (she's a dog in case anyone was wondering and not a neglected child - although sometimes she's just as demanding as one!)
I'm off today because the children have 'target setting day' at school - also refered to in this household as a 'complete waste of everyones time - teachers reading out to you a letter they sent to you 2 weeks ago about your child'. We go into school for an hour and then they spend the day doing what teenagers do at home ie. facebook, tv and xbox.
Anyway have to get ready - supposed to be there in 25 minutes and still in bed!
Love Sam
Thanks for the info/support Sam & Pip. Maybe I just need a really high dose of Ven but on 225mg I really struggled with the sweating & it affecting my running which I love doing so much.
I'll do a bit of research about escitalopram but I know that can sometimes be a bad idea! I wonder if its that different to citalopram?
Also does anyone know how much it costs to see a psychiatrist for an assessment and how to go about it?
Hope everyone has a good day xx
Hi Gavin
I know that feeling. As soon as I feel low I start to panic..crazy I know. I have to really try hard and relax and do something to take my mind off it all or try and think nice/happy thoughts. Hope you're feeling brighter today.
Anni x
Hello everyone whos worried about me. I'm moved to the Prozac site as thats whats I.m on now. Noy miracle yet after about 4 weeks. But its te only med I havent tried so havent got much choice.
Thank you for caring
Love joy
Hi Gavin
I know that feeling. As soon as I feel low I start to panic..crazy I know. I have to really try hard and relax and do something to take my mind off it all or try and think nice/happy thoughts. Hope you're feeling brighter today.
Anni x
Thanks Anni,
Feeling much the same today which is abit of a shame after a good couple of weeks. Just feel uneasy about something, but dont know what? Its not pure anxiety, but just kind of an on edge feeling?
Dont feel like doing much today, but got loads to do and feel crappy and low :(
Gav.x
Hello all, hope you are all managing as best as can be epected today :hugs:
My blood tests came back fine (thankfully) just a high white cell count which doc says could mean I was fighting off an infection or allergy :shrug: so I guess the weight loss is all down to stress and anxiety after all.
I am ok...bit flat but staying positive and coping ok. Still having the vivid dreams too and also very tired all the time. Doc is going to review my dose in December, so staying on 75 for now.
Pip, good to hear you are feeling better now you are back at work. I haven't heard any more yet. xx
Clio, well done for getting out to CBT and good luck with your increase xx
Nic, thinking of you & your family. Hope you are coping ok :hugs:
Pink, I hope you are doing ok hunni xx
Gav, sorry to hear you are feeling a little on edge & crappy. Stay positive, I'm sure it's just a blip. You've had so much going on xx
Tracey, hope the new job is going well and you are coping ok xx
Slow, I discussed escitalopram with my GP after having a really bad time on Cit, he wouldn't prescribe it for me as he said it was basically the same as citalopram and he expected I would have the same awful SE's on it.
Sam, Tony, Paul, Anni and everyone else, big hugs to you all xx :bighug1: sorry if I have forgotten anyone. xxx Oh and thats another thing, my memory is terrible at the moment :doh: anyone else notice this?
Hi all,
Just a quickie as I've just got in from work and the mutt's pestering for walkies. I hope you're all doing ok.
Pink - how are you? You've been quiet the last couple of days. Let us know how you're getting on :hugs:
Kitti - talk about weird dreams! I spend all last night dreaming I was in a maths exam. It was so real that I've felt like I've been waiting for the results all day. Some might say it was a nightmare but, as I like maths, I quite enjoyed it! Good news about your tests - you're like me with anxiety making the weight drop off. Treat it as an excuse to eat pizza and chocolate (though if you are like me, you won't fancy it much).
Take care
Pip xxx
Hi All
Hope today's be a better day for those of us strugggling?
I've been out today trying to motivate myself bloody hard though but did it:)was only out an hour, was a bit anxious by the time we got back home needed to get my stress levels down was going to take a d but decided to try a cuppa instead had cup of camomile and honey and did wordsearch for half an hour.
Pip... starting increase to moz they only do 37.5mg in normal and not slow release so did you take them both together 75mg slow release and 37.5mg normal ? Did you get any more side effects? I am crapping myself and will prob be on edge.
Slow... I was on citalopram for a good few years, and after after a new episode of anxiety/depression my doctor switch me over to estcitalopram she said it was more refined but max dose is 20mg in tablet form which I was on, was on it over 4 years. after another episode I am now trying venlafaxine.
Ask your doc if you can see a psychiatrist but depending where you live you may have to go through a mental health assessment and it's up to them to decide if they think thats what you need. You can always see a psychiatrist at THE PRIORY but you need a letter from your doctor but there not cheap prob anything form £150-£250.
:bighug1:
Sober2000june
07-11-12, 19:42
Evening All,
Just trying to catch up with all the posts. So hard as i have the cognitive function of headless goldfish:huh:. I see a theme of weird dreams; last night The Mafia were chasing me and Terry McCann from Minder throughout the US and every time we came out of buildings people were being taken out by snipers WTF!!! At least I don’t get any repeats so its better than telly!
Joy, I am sorely tempted to see if I can join you on Prozac. My Gp left a voicemail for me last night and told me that I should be receiving an appt thro post from new shrink - I believe its the one who did not want to see me; not sure whether to be grateful or apprehensive:scared15:.
Been on 150mg for a week now and struggling to fall asleep as easy - have an uncomfortable feeling in head that makes me shake it - dont know if this is brain shivers or whatever its called. One thing i will say tho, at least i feel stuff more, like getting an endorphin rush when training - that was totally gone on 225mg. So heres hoping i'll get an appt with new shrink soon and he's going to discuss meds and my reaction to them.
I think i saw a post from Kerrie statinbg that she is much better now that she has cut out the daily drinking - good for you:).
Pink and Pip i appreciate the solid input you guys have put in hear cus i for one know it has help me stay alive:hugs:.
everyone keep on keeping on:bighug1:
sorry i've not posted. yesterday had a quiet day, coughing and shivering, today a bit better, been out taking my parents to the dr's, and a bit of shopping, glad to get back tho'
dreams, bloody dreams, thats how i've got a high scratch on my face, i did it myself duringone of those weird dreams :blush:
pip thanks for your concern, you seem to have settled now you are back at work, freddie still keeping you on your toes :D i knew you would be ok, such a great attitude and understanding of this anxiety lark, take care xxx
paul, so glad you are getting to see somebody at last, think positive, this might just be what you need, can i ask you what is was like reducing fro 225 to 150 ? thanks for your kind words, and i hope your appontment comes soon xx
clio well done on getting out, even for an hour it is still progress, and no diazapm well done you !!! take it easy now xx
kitti glad your bloods were fine, you have a great attitute to everything, despite all you are going through just now, another month or so on 75mg might just be enough for you to stle on that dose, i hope so xxx
gav, that feeling you have i can so relate too, really hard to put it into words, just something simmering there, i know the feelingso well, but just think what you've done and its not surprising you are a bit anxious, just your body getting back to normal, and adjusting to being a married man :D hope ou feel bettr soon xx
tracey, the job seems to be doing you good, you are a strong person, i know you will get there, first week nearly over, bet you could,nt have imagined doing this a month or so ago , just goes to show how far you've come xxx
anni hope you feel better soon xx
sam ho are you doing ?
joy good luck with the prozac xx
nicola thinking of you
mr w so pleased for you and your business, taking on staff eh!!! move over alan sugar :D you so deserve it, hope you continue to improve xx
to everyone else :hugs: sorry if i've missed anyone xx
slow and lou....how are you both ????
Hi all
I am actually starting to feel a bit better. Less anxiety so stronger mood or could be the other way round..don't know.
Hope all of you are having better times. I went out yesterday for the first time in a week and although I didn't want to go I felt better after. I made sure I rested up afterwards and watched TV which nicely took my mind off things.
Gav-is all your anxiety and stress from your work? I know that was my problem a four years a go and in the end I had to get out of it (Teaching)and now do small jobs that put no pressure on me.
Pink-thank you again for your support and hope you are feeling better
Pip-I will be strong. I think about you in wobbley moments and say I'm just going to get on with it. Thank you
Kitti-I think doctors underestimate the side effects of these drugs. I have beeen 6 months absolutely fine on my ven and having gastroenteritis seems to have knocked me about. SE's such as dry mouth, sick and retching, sweats, chills, agitation, low mood,anxiety leading to panic, strange sleep patterns.All symptoms I have had before when beginning the ven. My doctor said the anxiety and panic was me not meds. Yes I do get anxious but I think the ven, initially heightened it all. Reading lots of threads on here makes me think doctors swap meds or up doses too soon .
Clio- hope you are having a better time. I know when I feel bad I wish for the day to go quick as I feel better later in the day and thats when my husband gets home and I feel safe.
:yesyes: to you all on here. Be thinking of you Nicola tomorrow. xx
Hey Anni, alot of stress is from work sometimes.
Im feeling much the same again to day, not feeling ill but just uneasy about something, like underlying nerves? and alittle low?
Had dreams and night sweets again last night!
My ears are really ringing loudly aswell today? Also feeling tired.
Ive took diazepam but not really helped?
Hope everyone is well.
Gav.x
Hi all
Hope you have all got through the day ok.
Have just got in as have been out again today...using up all the spare adrennaline!! I think (fingers crossed) that mine is now a good venlafaxine story. and I do so hope that it can start doing the same for all you on this thread. Am feeling more normal again :yahoo:The anxious feeling has subsided and I can put my worries back into their pigeon holes and they are not all consuming.
Sorry Gav that you're not good again. I think work puts so much strain on us and causes so much stress that even the best tablets find it difficult to help. Have you tried self help stuff. Sparkle 1984 has got some good ideas on her thread. I know i have tried some of these in the past but find it difficult to motivate myself when I'm feeling low. My daughter is a great help and pushes me when I need it. Have you got someone to help?
Anni x
Sober2000june
08-11-12, 17:19
Aft all,
Pink regarding reducing to 150, Im on day 8 of 150 and its not great still cant relax in evenings this crazy feeling in my head that i have to shake it especially when tired, starting to get pins and needles on my face. Still waiting on the miracle - day 425 of meds. was hoping ven was going to be the one but hey ho. Just want to get off them TBH. From what i am reading in posts distraction is the best policy - i was actually doing that for 18 yrs with a modicum of success(not any worse than the meds TBH) I just feel it took a massive leap of faith to go try meds again, but at the moment I feel vindicated in my cynicism:weep:. This is just so hard.
Sorry for moan but its just the way i feel.
Take care,
Paul
Hi all
Hope you have all got through the day ok.
Have just got in as have been out again today...using up all the spare adrennaline!! I think (fingers crossed) that mine is now a good venlafaxine story. and I do so hope that it can start doing the same for all you on this thread. Am feeling more normal again :yahoo:The anxious feeling has subsided and I can put my worries back into their pigeon holes and they are not all consuming.
Sorry Gav that you're not good again. I think work puts so much strain on us and causes so much stress that even the best tablets find it difficult to help. Have you tried self help stuff. Sparkle 1984 has got some good ideas on her thread. I know i have tried some of these in the past but find it difficult to motivate myself when I'm feeling low. My daughter is a great help and pushes me when I need it. Have you got someone to help?
Anni x
Hey.. No I haven't tried self help. Il look into it.
I'm feeling worse now, and have a headache, feeling flat and low.
I just don't understand why I'm feeling like this again, maybe it's just coz I've had a good 2 weeks and a high, and I'm maybe burnt out a little. Been mega busy at work as well all week.
Gav.x
nicola1980
08-11-12, 18:48
Hi all, im feeling very tired and low at the min :weep: its the funeral tomo and im trying so hard to be strong for my mum but seeing her hurt like this is awful plus my grief aswel, am totally exhausted too as been busy helping arrange things etc, i was so tired last night i fell asleep on the sofa at 8:30 which isn't like me at all but im battling through, am trying to keep my tears at home and have a good cry when im on my own. sending :hugs: to everyone xxxxxxxxxx
Nic, I am thinking of you hun, I hope you and your mum can support eachother through this awful time.
I am sending you a big hug and lots of positive thoughts :bighug1:xxxx
Hope everyone else is doing ok.
Gav, sorry to hear you are still feeling a bit low, I hope it passes. Try some of the self help techniques, it could be beneficial for you. Worth a try anyway.
Big hugs all round, Pink, Pip, Tracey, Paul, Tony, Clio, Anni, Sam, Gav, Nic (and mum) and sorry if I have forgotten anyone else :bighug1: Kitti xx
Evening!
Things are fine here and I've definitely worked through the latest bout of anxiety (for now, anyway!). Looks like a nice weekend so let's hope I can get out in the fresh air.
Nic - I hope it goes ok for you tomorrow. I know it'll be hard but you'll get through it and you'll be a great comfort to your mum. Look after yourself.
Off to bed now ready for another night of strange dreams! Hi to everyone :hugs:
Take care
Pip xxx
Sober2000june
09-11-12, 08:39
Morning all, got to a meeting last night and shar:hugs:ed the way i was feeling. Felt embarrassed about feeling low but better i did. Was reminded of keeping it in a day.
Have a good day peeps
morning guys, nicola thinking of you today, sending you positive vibes to help you get through the day :hugs:
paul sorry you re still struggling, but you done the right thing to share your feelings, we all get so good as covering up, but it is so exhausting, and the only wayto get through it is one day at a time, hope you have a better day today xx
pip i knew you would kick its ass, you are strong and know how to get through it, weekend almost here do time to go walkies, and relax again, maybe a wee glass of wine to unwind, take care xxx
for all you still struggling :hugs: :hugs:
going out oday usuall friday stuff, lunch, shopping etc, cough and cold getting a bit better, head feels a bit clearer, just crusty eyes and a self inflicted scratch on my face :blush: but there's always the paper bag option :D
Hey.. No I haven't tried self help. Il look into it.
I'm feeling worse now, and have a headache, feeling flat and low.
I just don't understand why I'm feeling like this again, maybe it's just coz I've had a good 2 weeks and a high, and I'm maybe burnt out a little. Been mega busy at work as well all week.
Gav.x
Hi I think you are feeling bit low Gav because you're tired....must be if you've been very busy at work. My counsellor told me that just being stressed and anxious all the time is exhausting let alone trying to cope with work and all the other things that we have to do in a day. Try and take some time to relax and think of good things
Anni x
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Hi all, im feeling very tired and low at the min :weep: its the funeral tomo and im trying so hard to be strong for my mum but seeing her hurt like this is awful plus my grief aswel, am totally exhausted too as been busy helping arrange things etc, i was so tired last night i fell asleep on the sofa at 8:30 which isn't like me at all but im battling through, am trying to keep my tears at home and have a good cry when im on my own. sending :hugs: to everyone xxxxxxxxxx
Thinking of you today Nicola. Hard I know. Try thinking that this is a celebration of your Grandads life. Think of the good times you have shared with him and all your family. Share your love and support with your family and it will be there for you too.
best wishes to you
Anni x
Morning all
Completely forgot to take my 150mg yesterday morning and although didnt have any effects from it yesterday I'm paying for it now! Feel really dopey this morning and not a headache but just sort of brain zaps or something. Hard to describe really.
I've decided to come off ven - one of the main reasons is because its effecting my running so much and thats one of the activities I love doing. Not sure whats next but I guess I slow taper off ven is the priority.
Probably going to pay to see a private pysch - I'm willing to throw money at this now to feel better.
Hope everyone else ok today x
Morning all.. i had really bad night sweets last night, and having hot flushes this morning, my forehead was wet with sweet. I dont understand whats going on? ive been pretty good on 150mg for a while now, i just dont feel right again, and uneasy?
I cant speak to my doctor as she is away aswell.
I dont want to go backwards!!
Sorry for the moan. Gav
Just jumping in on this thread as Ion Flux, Gav when I started to have these hot flushes at about 4 and half weeks, my doctor upped my slow release propanolol from 80mg to 160mg and after a couple of days it stopped them, not sure if you are on anything like this.
Janine
Just jumping in on this thread as Ion Flux, Gav when I started to have these hot flushes at about 4 and half weeks, my doctor upped my slow release propanolol from 80mg to 160mg and after a couple of days it stopped them, not sure if you are on anything like this.
Janine
I crashed on 75mg after about 4 weeks, then went on 150mg, think ive been on that for around 6-7 weeks now and been improving very well. Im also taking diazepam when needed.
So i dont understand why im having a bad week this week?
Gav
Last time I saw my GP he did say to me you will have bad days but then everyone has bad days and I know I did before all this started but I think when we do now we just think things aren't working and beat ourselves up and then it is a vicious circle and we get more wound up, I think we have to accept we are going to have blips of a day few days or a week and try not to worry about them (easier said than done) reading your thread you have achieved so much in the last few weeks and have done so well and you will again.
I can see you are going through a hard time Gav.I have been on Ven now for 20 weeks and have had various ups and downs.I have just not known how I am going to feel from one morning to the next at times.Been on Ven twice before and has worked fine for me ,but at an earlier stage than this episode.
Is it the mornings that are worse and things gradually improve or does it last all day?
Mornings are worse for me usually but just lately have been lasting longer through the day.With me ,I do know that I have to do more to help myself ,but it is a lack of motivation.I will overcome that problem I know.
I have had the sweats real bad as well,but have got better since lowering dose from 225mg to 150 mg and past 2 days have dropped to 75mg.
I think you may still have to give 150mg longer as it sounds as if you have only been on Ven about 11 weeks. I am still hoping that it will work for me after 20 weeks even so I am far from feeling great at the moment. It is finding out for me the best dose that suits me considering the side effects and the depth of the anxiety and low feelings.
Maybe another doctor at your surgery may be able to help.I always ask for a doctor who may specialise in mental health,but unfortunately there is no one at my existing surgery as there was at my previous one.
I do hope that things do improve for you during the day Gav,and you feel more at ease. If I can think of anything to help out I will let you know.
I do know how difficult it can be when your feelings on the meds start to change. It is just hard to understand what's going on.
Thanks Janine, Yes my doctor said i would get ups and downs as i progress aswell.
Ive took 5mg of diazepam this morning instead of 2.5mg and i just feel sleepy now..lol
Il try and have a quiet day at work and get home early.
I have had such a wonderful last 2 weeks and i guess im beating myself up because im not feeling the same now, it is a vicious circle like you said.
Thanks.x
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Thanks Tony for the input, my doctor is great, and i think the fact that i cant see her etc for 2 weeks is making me worse, i dont want to see another doctor. I hate switching to someone else who doesnt know you or what you have been through.
Gav
Hi All,I do hope we are all feeling O.K.
Nic Thinking of you and your mum and family today.
I am trying something and hope it will work as I am not feeling any better with anxiety and low feeling just lately.
I have dropped from 225mg Ven to 150 mg after just one week on October 12th.
I just felt worse with the sweats and anxiety and low feeling.I just felt that 225mg was too much. Since then the sweats have been much better,I'm sleeping better,but I do not feel any better than when I was on 150 mg before.
I now think that I wan't to get down to 75mg if I am going to feel the same as 150mg.I don't wan't these chemicals in my body if I don't need a higher dose.The lower the better. I have not had any withdrawal probs.
Been on 75mg for 2 days and can't notice any differance,which is good.If I do start feeling worse I will go back to 150mg straight away but I am being positive.
Will keep you posted how I do on 75mg as I know that some of us on here are interested about possible withdrawal probs. I hadn't had it before on Ven when came off twice on 75mg so I am optomistic.
Big hugs all round, Pink, Pip, Tracey, Paul, Kitti,Slow, Clio, Anni, Sam, Gav,Nic and mum and family and hope I have not forgotten anyone.If I have, these are for you as well :hugs:
Gav have you not gone home yet? listen to your body!! I know it must be hard when it's your own business as no work no pay. It is horrible when we get symptoms and you can't get rid of them no matter what distraction you do. you just don't know what to do for the best and feel on your own I sympathise with you.
Nic hope today went ok, not to much distress I know exactly what your going through luv. xx
I havn't noticed much but difference on 112.5mg thank god but only been on it 2 days, back to see the psychiatrist on monday hope it.s not another day of upset but if it is it is!! Tuesday having bloods for thyroid and cortisol, Weds cbt. Thursday back at doc's afternoon mental health worker. not looking forward to next week to much talking to do, sometimes it gets me down going over things.
xx thinking of everyone :bighug1:
Thanks Clio, I've just got home now.
My ears are ringing really badly, I have head shivers?
God knows what's going on with me this week, I did speak to a doctor on the phone (not my doctor) and he said it sounds like anxiety caused by work, what with the hot flushes and sweeting etc
I've been abit off my food today as well.
I know a lot of you are feeling a lot worse than me at the moment, but it's just abit of a shock to me after 2 good weeks, I guess I'm scared that's all.
X
gav its only natural to be scared when something happening to your body that really doesn't feel right, and is not a common symptom it make you think bloody hell what's that al about! :ohmy: If you can't settle later take another d don't try to be brave it might heighten your anxiety. take care xx
gav i really feel for you, but your body is telling you to slow down, so please listen, you have dne o much this past few weeks, and now you need to take it easy, plenty of rest, and as clio says take another diazapam if you need to, you are not going backwards gav, you are tired, ad having a blip, and i know its scary, but if you listen to your body and rest, things will improve for you im sure. take it easy xxx
tony what a great post, i am thinking of lowering my dose too if not befor christmas just after, but am petrified of withdrawals, like you i want less chemocals in my body too, thig is i feel more like myself, but am tired a lot, and motivation is low, so think i could do with a slightly lower dose, good luck with it and keep posting, let us know how you get on xx
nicola, hope today went ok for you, was thinking about you huni xx
pip yes its the weekend, how are you feeling ? xx
clio busy week aheadfor you, good luck with it all, you sound a bit more positive now xx
:welcome: janine,nice to have you aboard xx
paul how are you ?
slowfish be carefull and reduce slowly, keep us posted we are all here for you xx
tracey,sam,kittie anni,and anyne i forgot hope you are all ok :hugs:
good day for me, been out for lunch, christmas shopping, then asda, out from 11.30 till after 5. so takig it easy now, but plodding on as usuall xxx
pink how can you have low motivation being out all that time? that's a massive a lot of time. how long have you been on ven to be able to to all that? xx
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pink how can you have low motivation being out all that time? that's a massive a lot of time. how long have you been on ven to be able to to all that? xx
it's an act I have to do that to get on with things
nicola1980
09-11-12, 18:54
Hi all, thanks for all the well wishes :hugs: i woke up this morning and felt awful so took a 2mg of diazepam and then the shakes started just before we left for the funeral to the point i actually thought 'i can't do this' :ohmy: so i quickly swallowed another diazepam and calmed down quite quickly after that, the service was lovely and then we hadd a nice get together after, i think we did my Grandad proud :D xxxxx
clio i have been on ven since feb this year, and was on citalopram for 18 months before that, i can get out now and lead a near normal life, but still think about how im feeling a lot, and just dont hve the motivation i had before i was ill.
i have to relly push myself to do what i do now, whereas before i would do it all and more without thinking, but as i've said before i think the meds have done all they can now, its up to me to do the rest, you will get there too clio, but getting o this stage has taken me a long time, and a lot of perseverance, hope this helps you xx
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well done nicola, your grandad would be so proud xx
Nice one Nic xxx chill tonite xx
Hello everyone,
Another flying visit as we're going round to our neighbours' for a meal and I need to get ready.
Well done on today Nic and I'm so pleased it went well. Think of all the good times you had with your granddad and how proud he'd have been to see you coping so well. :hugs:
I'll be back later...
Pip xxx
Evening guys,
You coped with today amazingly Nicola, it's a hard time even for those without anxiety so managing as you did is a sign of just how strong you are. I hope your mum's ok too.
Pinky I think you've hit the nail on the head, the meds can only do so much and then it's down to you. Meds are excellent at getting you back in your feet and facing things again but there is a limit to what they can do. Since stopping the Prozac my motivation has returned to normal but I'm still anxious but the side effects of the meds have gone so no worse but not completely in remission. Luckily I can manage to carry on regardless but it's still very much taking one day at a time. Like you say I can go out and lead a pretty normal life but the anxiety still there and rears it's ugly head far to often for my liking. Well done for getting on with it today, plodding is so underrated!
Gav I agree with pinky and co, take extra good care of yourself this weekend, lots of rest and try not to question why you feel crap now, you just do, there's often no reason, just the nature of the beast. The more you question it, worry and think you're back to the start the more anxious you will become. Next week will be better, anxiety comes and it goes. Try to have a relaxing weekend, even if that means diazepam and bed, that's ok, look after yourself.
Love to everyone
Sam
Nic Well done to you and your family on doing your Grandad proud today.
Pink My motivation and energy is very low and I feel that if I can lower the dose of Ven it will improve.I can feel that my personality is more like me,just in the 2 days I have dropped to 75mg.I know I could have dropped by 37.5mg but just halved it from 150mg and hope for the best.
I know you realy have to push yourself to do the things you manage to do each day,but I just find it so difficult to push myself ,where it would normally come so easy to do a lot more as well, as you said in your post.What you did today I could only dream of doing the way I have been.
I will do all those things and more when I am back to my normal self.
Tomorrow is another day and if I feel a little bit better each day than the day before that will make me happy. :yesyes:
tony good luck wish you all the best, you will do it, you are determined enough xx
sam i know exactly what you mean about your motivation returning, you are doing great stopping the prozac, but i know you wil still have to fight the anxiety, i will take the bull by the horns and reduce my dose, i'd like to feel like you say "more like myself" good luck sam, you so deserve to feel better xx
Well done Nic for today!
And thanks for the advice everyone.
I'm off to bed!
Hello everyone,
Just got back from my meal out with the neighbours. We had a lovely night and I'm now ready for bed.
I hope you're all ok and I'll be back tomorrow.
Take care
Pip xxx
Glad you had a good night Pip, I'm not great again, had dreams and the sweats last night, felt anxious this morning and not myself, seems some of the anxiety symptoms are creeping back?
Gav.
Glad you had a good night Pip, I'm not great again, had dreams and the sweets last night, felt anxious this morning and not myself, seems some of the anxiety symptoms are creeping back?
Gav.
Strange Gav, this seems to be happening to me a bit, as you know I had a panic attack yesterday, first one for just over 9 weeks, since I started on Ven. Have you spoken to your GP? I am having a meds review 4th December, I guess we will just have to ride the storm and keep our fingers crossed :shrug:
Big hugs to everyone here :bighug1: hope you are all doing ok xx
I haven't spoken to my gp yet, I can't get an appointment for 2weeks.
Yes it's strange, I think I'm making myself worse by worrying about getting worse again.
It's hard to deal with when u've had a good few weeks. There's no real reasons why I should be getting worse or anxious again? The wedding is all done and dusted, the new house is all sorted etc. I don't want to up the meds! Hoping its a blip!
Just gets me down and low and somewhere I don't want to be.x
Evening all,
Very quiet on here today, I hope it's a good sign and everyone's OK?
Had another busy day today, tired and anxious now but not too bad, I've got a mouth ulcer and my spots are worse too - a sign that I need to slow down and take better care of myself. So husband and kids are out all day tomorrow - walking on Dartmoor with the school, so I'm planning a nice quiet day, walk the dog, do some online christmas shopping and may even do a bit of painting (picture - not the house!)
Love and hugs to all
Sam
I'm here!.lol
I've had a little flare up off anxiety 2nite.. I was thinking about work related stuff, and could feel my self getting a hot flush and stomach going. I don't know why I'm being anxious about work, it's silly! My ears are ringing really loudly and I keep falling asleep!
So all in all a great nite!.lol
Hope everyone is well.x
why don't you come in the chat room gav and do the 2nd half of the quiz? - it starts again in 3 mnutes and Pipkin and Pinkdove are in there doing it. It's good distraction
gav, you are really struggling just now, i think it is because you have done so much lately, and your tired, do you usually worry about work ??? sorry you are feelin so bad, hope you start to settle down soon, take it easy xx
quiet today, well i've had the cooking bug today, made big pot of soup (scotch broth) of course 2 shepherds pies, and will make 2 fish pies as well, thats us eating for the week, thinking of going to car boot tomorrow, weather permitting.
hope evryone is ok xx
Well done in the quiz Pink - you were great!
Pip xxx
pip dont know about that, but i enjoyed it, as sam says a great distraction. hope you are having a nice relaxing weekend, spoke to petra on friday, she is doing great, after the winter months she is thinking of reducing her meds, and she is working full time now, nice to hear some really good news :D
pink your on late? you have had a busy day hope you are ok sounds it.:bighug1:
Pink,
That's great news - it's good to hear someone's doing well as I know quite a few people here are struggling at the moment.
I think Freddie's got kennel cough at the minute so I'm up and down with him tonight. It's been found around at the puppy school so I thought he might get it. Has Rosie ever got it?
Pip x
gav, you are really struggling just now, i think it is because you have done so much lately, and your tired, do you usually worry about work ??? sorry you are feelin so bad, hope you start to settle down soon, take it easy xx
quiet today, well i've had the cooking bug today, made big pot of soup (scotch broth) of course 2 shepherds pies, and will make 2 fish pies as well, thats us eating for the week, thinking of going to car boot tomorrow, weather permitting.
hope evryone is ok xx
I did worry about work after I was ill and went back, but things got better and have been for the few weeks leading up to the wedding.
Now I'm back again it's started again, I worry about not being able to do the work because of feeling ill? And that in turn makes me anxious and ill?
Well no night sweats last night, first in a long time! But lots of dreams and I've got a headache from hell! Just can't win, going back to bed with a cuppa.x
Hi all
Sun is shinning here...hope it is where you all are, nice to get out and feel it on your face.
My meds are certainly putting me on the right track. I know they are not a magic cure and yes I have to help them.
Gav-I think you are doing really well. Am I right that you have been on your increase only 6 weeks? That still is only a short time. Don't be hard on yourself. Stress and worry take its toll and you really need to rest whenever you can.
Well done Nicola.. you got through it. Remember your Grandad with happiness.
Pink-- you are so supportive to everyone. Don't be in a rush to reduce your tablets and if you do, do it slowly...very slowly. I tried earlier in the year and I must admit I found it extremely hard. It didn't work out for me and I went back to my original dose which took about 8 weeks to kick back in.
Clio-hang on in there. you can do it. Tell yourself you are strong...cos you are
Kitt-sorry you had a panic attack..just a little set back..thats all
Everyone else on here...have a good day, a restful day
Anni xx:bighug1:
Hi Anni, I've been on my increase of 150mg for just over 7weeks. But I've improved a lot quite quickly until recent. I just want to be me again and not be on meds. I've had a few periods where I've felt like the old me and happy, so I know it can be done! But it's just horrible having a set back after a good few weeks, and I find it hard to deal with. I have had a lot going on in my life the last couple of weeks, so I guess I just need to try and rest and take it easy and hope things get better again. Sorry to be moaning!.
Gav.x
Hello all :)
Well I am feeling a little better today so I guess it was just a blip for me.
To all those struggling, try and stay as positive as you can, we know this is a journey of ups & downs, I am sure we will get there together :hugs:
Hope you all have a great Sunday, big hugs to all, especially if you are having a tough time right now :bighug1:xxxx
Glad ur feeling abit better today kitti, I've still got my headache, just can't get rid off it, just been for a walk in the cold air around the local lake. I'm taking paracetamol every 4hrs, and even some codeine, think its turned into more off a migraine now. So much for a nice Sunday! :(
How's everyone else!
hi guys, another good day for me today :) ben to car boot sale, then to visit my son, lovely day here too, tired now...so time for a rest xx
pip aw poor freddie, no rosie has never had kennel cough, so i cant advise on that, i know when she is poorly though, i get so anxious, im sure he'll be fine, hope you an manage to have a relaxing dayxx
gav, when i was about 7-8 weeks into the 150mg, i got a blip too, t did last about a couple of weeks, but with the support of the guys on here, particularly pip, i persevered and got through it, but like you i thought i was back to square one, but thank god i was wrong, you will get there too, just a blip, but so disheartening xx
anni thanks hunni, im going to leave the dose till after christmas, as i do feel much better, and im scared of a relapse, and i would'nt want to rock the boat just now. soglad your meds are helping, but you have a great attitude too, and that i think is the main thing, xx
kitti glad you are feeling a bit better....always positive :D despite what you are going through. take care hunni xx
tracey, sam, nicola, paul slowfish, lou, and everyone else hope you are all doing ok xx
mr w where's that photo of holly ?????
william wallace
11-11-12, 20:06
Hi folks, had my grandaughter Holly over for the weekend. Walking now, and getting more gorgeous every day:)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wWPoFXx-0HU/UKADPiky5YI/AAAAAAAABm0/ZCUGHw296Ek/s1600/P1010874.JPG
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And this is what I woke up to this morning, she lights up my darkest days:D
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3POryFykKZg/UKADew5ereI/AAAAAAAABnA/OQdri_Q_6J0/s1600/P1010890.JPG
aw she is so cute!!!! walking now, enjoy every minute, they grow up so quick, hope you and sandra are keeping well xxx
Evening,
A quick hello to say things are fine here - I've just spent all last night and today with sick dog who's coughing and vomiting every 10 minutes so I've been kept busy. Been to the vets and he'll be fine.
Stick with it everyone. I had a tough time last week but got back on track - it's just one of those things we all go through so don't worry that you're going backwards, you're not. We wouldn't be human if we were on top form all the time.
Take care
Pip xxx
rockbottok
11-11-12, 23:33
Hi guys sorry I've not been on in a few days its hard with 9 adult dogs 2 of which are expecting, 4 pups and 2 kids. Jheeeze I wonder where I find time to get anxiety sometimes. Well I'm feeling a bit better. But I can honestly say I do feel medicated quite often and this week I've been wondering if I should start weaning off. But don't want to rock the boat and ruin my kids Xmas so think ill stay at my dose till new year. New year new start who is with me on that one? Pink?
To everyone that's struggling I'm sure u will improve.
Gav 7 weeks in to me starting ven I had had a few good weeks and then boom felt awful. Got thro it by the help of everyone on here. Sometimes I think ven is a myrick e drug and other times I wish citalopram still worked for me cos I defo felt more like me with less blips (when it worked) try and keep positive and I'm sure u will feel better soon.
Nic....feel for u. 6 months ago I lost my grandad and then a month ago his daughter (my aunty) died. Been struggling ever since.
Pink... Glad ur doing well.
Pip....so positive, what would we do without u at times of despair.
Everyone else hope ur all doing well.
Off to bed nanite x
Hi All,I hope we are all feeling well.Idropped down to 75mg Ven from 150 mg last Thursday but may have been a mistake.
No real differance friday and saturday and felt I had more energy than usual saturday and got quite a lot done.Much more than usual but not as much as when I'm normal.
Weather was nice and sunny here in Spain on saturday and felt O.K.
Sunday was raining most of the day and woke up more anxious and flat than usual.It was damp and dismal and I just could not get going.Took 75mg+37.5mg but these feelings lasted all day.
Woke up this morning and still the same.Taken 150mg this morning and hoping things will get better.Weather still damp and dismal which may effect my feelings as well.Been invited over to neighbours for dinner this evening so I am hoping I will be fine.
Never had symptons coming off Ven before but I had felt better then.I am not that much better than when I started on Ven 21 weeks ago tomorrow but I have always been positive about getting better.
Get back to Epsom from Spain on 17th and that is causing me some anxiety I know.
I feel now that anything below 150mg is not enough and above 150 mg may be too much.I may go on 150mg+37.5mg at sometime, as before it was straight up to 225mg and I felt worse.
I am still positive as I just get scared at the thought of starting on a new med.
Anyone thinking of reducing their meds should take care as I thought it would be O.K. but then again I am far from feeling well on Ven.
I know we will come out stronger at the end but 21 weeks of this is getting me down even though I tell myself every day, ''You will get better''. I know I will but coping everyday with life can be such a struggle where normally you just take it in your stride. I will get through this O.K.
:)
tony, it is so hard knowing what to do for the best, and getting the dose right, i think you probably felt better the first couple of days because of ven's long half life, but im no expert, i think you have done the right thing to inrease a bit, but remember to give the increase a wee while to kick in, dont go too high again. im sure you will start to feel better soon, now i feel muc better on ven (since feb) but never 100% me, i really think you have to work at that, i think 150mg is def igh enough for me, take care xx
lou, your on, lets get christmas out the way first, then slowly slowly catchy monkey, we can keep each other on track, but lke tony i felt i'd really like to decrease, but thinking about it, its the wrong timefor me just now, you sound as if you have your hands full, but what a lovely thing to do for a living, the pooches are sooo cute !!!! remember to take some time out for you xx
pip, poor freddie, that must be awfull for you, its so bad when they are ill, they can really let you know through their eyes, and it is so distressing, but im glad freddie will be back to normal soon, what are we all like, dont now where we'd be without our wee doggie friends tho' hope you settle back at work, and have a good day xx
hows everyone else doing today ???
a quiet one for me today, drizzly rain here, so will cosy with ma rosie today, be back later xxxx
Sober2000june
12-11-12, 11:51
Tony i can totally relate to you on what dose to take. Like you ive been on ven almost 33wks now at various doses and I really have to fight not being flat. Also when trying to get to sleep at night i now even find my meditation music agitates me. Had quite a good day Friday, St not as great - spat a few dummies(made me feel better tho') conflict and endorphins bit of an addiction issue there me thinks. Even more toys where thrown from the pram yesterday. :blush:. Find it nhard not to bite when missus has digs at me in front of kids:mad:. On higher dose i didnt react as much but i just felt even more isolated from the world and locked inside with my "dark passenger" - is it any wonder i like dexter?
Pink re weather, as its the West of Scotland its misserable as per usual.
Got to knock this junk food on the head. Dinner last night was a 2 couse Chinese, followed by pudding, 4 custard creams and an orange club:blush:
Sorry about your Pup Pip - try saying that a few times. Youre effectively a parent now. At least with a dog they always listen, my three boys get bouts of conditional deafness:whistles:.
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anyhoo, off to spin to get some endorphins:yahoo:
Hi Guys,
Sorry to hear about Freddie, Pipkin, poor little chap - is he getting better? It's good to hear you're back on form thou :)
9 dogs Lou??? That takes some doing, there's a man near us who has 8 but takes others in whilst there owners go away - over the weekend he had 14, you can hear him coming in the field because of all the barking. My pup loves it but I'm amazed how he copes with so many, I find one stresses me out at times.
Hope today is better for you Gav :hugs:
You will get through it Tony, you are have a positive outlook and that is vital to recovery.
Pinky - I'm having a quiet one too, been out with the pup and done some chores but its miserable here. I'm feeling OK, got another sore throat and mouth ulcers but mentally much brighter.
Sober (sorry can't remember your name:blush:) I'm not so sure about the dog listening more than the kids - our dog has selective hearing :mad: and at least the kids have been trained to do useful stuff like empty the dishwasher and feed themselves - the dog will feed herself from the dirty plates in the dishwasher if its left open but my husband objects to this practice:shrug:. So you're into Dexter, I'd never heard of it until recently but have heard great reviews about it and am buying it for my hubby for christmas you can get series 1-4 for £30 which seems a good deal, do you watch Breaking Bad too?
Love to all
Sam
rockbottok
12-11-12, 14:17
9 dogs plus 4 pups that I'm keeping lol. 13 in total and 2 of then a pregnant. One is due in about 10 days and the other in about 3 weeks. Hard work.
Pink it's lovely thing to do as I do t have to go out to work cos I can't face that. Plus I love doing it so win win situation really. Just back from kettlebells class, urgh I hate it but I need to shift some weight I put on when I was pregnant. I know it's not the right time for me to decrease just yet cos my kids deserve a nice Xmas plus we always struggle more in these winter months I find. I usually start to feel better when I know summer is just round the corner.
Pip. The amount of dogs I've had ud expect me to know about kennel cough but I've never had a dog catch it. So hope he is ok x
Hi Everyone,
big thanks to pink,sam and paul for your kind words.
Gav you sound as if you are getting there with the night sweats getting better.
I am a positive person and I do say to myself each night in bed,''You will get better''.
It has happened every time before and it will happen again...............soon.
I know it will.It makes me feel better after coming here and reading the posts.
If only there was a med you know would work from the start and you knew you would get better eventually.It is the uncertainty that in turn can make the anxiety worse.
A vicious circle that we gotta get out with positive thinking.Easier said than done at times.
I think 150mg Ven is high enough for me ,but even after just a few days dropping to 75mg,I guess it takes time to get back to how I used to be ,and better,on 150mg.
Such a pain when you wake up not knowing how you're gonna feel.
When I am back to my normal self,I automatically write posts on various subjects with an upbeat feel to it .
We all have a moan at times and nothing wrong with that to express how we are feeling.
I look at my posts now and it is mainly doom and gloom in my words.
Gotta put a stop to that and say,
''We are all nice people on here and we are all going to be fine and get back to our old selves.
Not just me,but each and every one of us. Just like people with a physical illness,we are also sick. You can't see it like a broken arm or leg but you most certainly can feel it. We deserve to get better and we will get better.''
That's my little positive statement for today, and tonight I am going to be happy having a couple of drinks with my neighbours and a nice meal.Looking forward to it now. Have a good evening everyone and let's stay positive. :D
Great positive statement Tony:D
I hope you have a great evening
Sam x
Evening everyone,
Just back from work and have had a remarkably anxiety-free day. I felt fine this morning which is unheard of for me on a Monday. It's about 8 weeks since I went up to 150mg and I now feel like it's fully kicking in. It's definitely not a quick process.
Freddie's much better and his antibiotics have taken effect - he's now bouncing around like a mad thing and is ready for a long walk. I've just got to keep him away from other dogs for a while as he's contagious. He caught this cough from a dog at puppy class so I was on the lookout for it. I've never experienced it before but it sounds like whooping cough. Lou - you deserve a medal for having that many dogs. I can just about handle one!
When I've got a bit more time, I'll respond to you all. Please keep your chins up though. There's definitely light at the end of the tunnel - it just takes a while to see it, let alone get there.
Take care
Pip xxx
tony what a great post, hope you have a lovely evening, and i think we should all think positive, and yes we all like a moan from time to time, but we're all here for each other and that is what matters.
pip feeling great on a monday morning :yesyes: you are definately getting ther on the 150mg, glad fredie is improvng too xx
sam, how are you doing ?????
nicola1980
12-11-12, 19:14
Hi all, well not too good here, my mums not coping too well with my Grandads death, i think its the shock of her being away when it happened and not being able to get home plus it was very sudden so im trying to be strong and support her as best i can, ive also got a bad chest infection too which the doc has now prescribed me oral steriods and antibiotics as its causing my asthma to flare up really bad :weep: so im struggling on and keeping my own tears and grief at home with hubby and being as much as a support to my mum as i can be but seeing her so upset breaks my heart, she asked me earlier when she was crying to just hold her, it was awful to see her like it :weep: ive got her an appointment with her doctor tomo morning as think she needs to have a talk to him anyway sorry for the long post :blush: sending big :hugs: all around xxxxx
Nic You and your mum have been through so much lately and you are both strong enough to get through this latest heart break.With the support of your hubby and family and remember all the good times you had with your Grandad.
Try to get through one day at a time .
morning all, nicola wel done for supporting your mum, you must be run down at the moment, so many infections, i feel for you, as long as you are grieving with your hubby, remember to take car of yourself hunni. xx
tony hope ou had a good nigt last night,and you are feeling a bit better today xx
a bit flat today,but i suppose we must expect that sometimes, hubby at home so will do something to occupy myself , and hopefully will improve later xx
hows everyoe else doing today ????
Hi All,
pink I am also feeling a bit flat this morning soon after taking my 150mg Ven. I was chatting to my sister on skype for half hour earlier and was fine. Took med with breakfast and felt a little fuzzy headed and flat for a while. Can be very up and down within minutes at times.Dunno whether I gotta get used to 150 mg again and may take a few more days.Nothing I can't deal with but a bit annoying.
Yes,I did have a good night with Keith and Jackie my neighbours here in Spain. Couple of lagers to start with and then a lovely meal of beef and wine casserole with mashed spuds,yorkshire pud and runner beans and carrots .Followed by bread and butter pudding with ice cream.Keith was a chef in the army and he does all the cooking at home. A nice evening out with people you like.
Felt nice and relaxed when I went to bed last night.
Nic I hope you and your mum got some piece of mind after seeing the doc this morning.
I remember paul saying he got agitated with his meditation music the other day. I seem to get that a lot with relaxing or meditation music I download from you tube.
Sounds good one day then I play it a few days later and I don't like it much. Puts me on edge more.
This anxiety/depression puts our brain out of synch and makes us think differantly and can change our personality as well, in my experience on this episode.
Will do a bit of on line CBT this afto. Got all the print outs done.
Enjoy the rest of the day everyone and things will get better for us all I am sure.
:):D:)
Hi guys, just been to doctors.
She said if my blip hasnt gone by end of next week, she will put me up to 225mg.
Really do not want to up, so hoping this week will get better.
Hope everyones well.x
nicola1980
13-11-12, 14:36
Hi all, well my mums doc was lovely and spent over half an hour talking to us, hes prescribed her some sleeping tabs and some diazepam for some respite for her, good job im seeing my shrink mon, think i need it lol! X x x
amessick44
13-11-12, 15:10
I'm happy it works for u. My aunt is on citalopram and it works well for her as well but when I was prescribed it I did not like it. I only tried taking it twice. The first time it made me sick the second I woke up with headaches all night. That was it for me. I'm really not a pill person though so maybe that's why.
Hi all
Think positive...yay. I know that can be difficult sometimes but always try and spin your thoughts round from the negative to the positive. Try and take your thoughts away from flat to up. I felt very flat yesterday and i'm sure it was because it was Monday and everyone was back at work and the weather was lousy. I tried to keep very busy, pushing yuk thoughts away. I always start to feel better as the day goes on. It also helped seeing my 2 little grandchildren at teatime.
Tony and Gav...you have both been on your change of meds for a relatively very short time. It took me at least 8 weeks on ven, diazepam and zopiclone to start to feel okish and then I continued with zopiclone for another 4weeks and diazepam for another 8 weeks to counteract SE from the ven.(came off them during this time very slowly because of side effects) The ven has to slowly build up in your body and the SE slowly decline.
Pink and Pip..love reading your supportive posts x
Nicola..you are doing so well to support your mum and feeling poorly too x
Take care all of you...keep positive..tell those negative thoughts to disappear
Anni xx
Hi Guys,
I've had a horrible day, I've got a sore throat (feels like there's a spiky plant down there) and got 3 mouth ulcers. I didn't sleep well and took a Diazepam at midnight because I couldn't settle and got a few hours sleep, anyway woke feeling physically pretty lousy but mentally OK, walked the dog and got to work. But started having waves of panic at about 10, I don't know how I stuck it out - but I did, I was nearly out the door a couple of times but I stayed all day. I still feel lousy and have come home to bed, I'm still anxious and disappointed. I often get anxiety when I feel ill but unfortunately I am often ill, stress is a not helpful to my immune system.
So now I'm feeling sorry for myself, I'm hot and then cold, aching limbs, headache and fed up :mad:
Well done Nicola - I think your shrink will be impressed with how you've coped these past couple of weeks.
I'm trying to stay positive Anni, I would say I'm normally a cup half full kind of girl but these blips don't get any easier do they?
Pink, Pip, Paul, Gav and everyone else - :hugs:
Sam
nicola1980
13-11-12, 18:53
Sam sending you a :bighug1: its horrible when you feel poorly aswel as this damn anxiety :mad: ive felt shite with this chest infection but like you have carried on, i think we need to listen to our bodies more and take time out to relax and look after ourselves more, hope you feel better soon :bighug1: xxxx
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