SPOOKY MULDER
23-11-12, 07:34
I currently have a condition that has persisted since I developed gallstones
. When this condition first started I went to three different doctors, and heard a range of `theories`, everything from
IBS to its all in my head. Turns out I had gallstones (Discovered after going for a scan, NOT by the doctor, even though I explained all
the text book symptoms of gallstone problems.
When I first heard the doctor tell me my gallbladder had to come out it was really scary for me...but it ended up not being that bad really, I was able to go home 2 days after the operation. Its apparently a very common operation.
Just the other day my mothers friend was also diagnosed with gallstones and has to go for the operation.She also suffers from anxiety.
Even though the gallbladder is now out, my pain persists.
My symptoms would be best described as a slight hollow feeling that would slowly start in my right side stomach area and then it would move to include my upper right rib cage
area and my back would ache on the right side as well.It would be at about this point where the dull ache would start to become painful and within
a matter of minutes completely unbearable. I found the fastest acting solution to this pain would be to QUICKLY eat brown bread and wash it down with a full glass of water.
I found the longer I waited to eat the bread and drink water, the longer it would take for the pain to go away.
I`ve found asking the doctor about why I STILL get this pain even though my gallbladder is now out, results in the classic medical professional answer "Its all in your head".
Funny thats what they said to me before they realised I had gallstones.
There is the other type of pain that I used to get BEFORE the gallbladder was taken out. It was actually the same, except that it wouldnt
become as painful as the other type. And it would last up to 3 hours. (This pain I believe was caused by the stones in my gallbladder).
The brown bread and water solution only seems to work with the fast acting pain, not the slow building pain that lasts for hours.
Then one night this pain became so painful I was rushed to hospital and thats when I told the doctors they can remove my gallbladder.
The other pain persists though (I get a pain attack in the morning, afternoon and evening) and no doctors can help. Their only suggestion
is going for a colonoscupy (how ever its spelt) NOOOOOO Thanks man!!!! Gross! Besides, whats the doctor gonna say "Oh it seems you have some
inflamation in your colon, caused my eating to much processed food. Please take the following vitamins to remedy this." Now that you are finished laughing,
lets continue ;) No, I think they wouldn`t actually have anything intelligent to say really. Probably prescribe me some useless medication.
What can they say. Doctors do not have training in nutrition, i.e. how to keep you healthy.
Thats just my opinion. I apolagise if my tone sounds hostile towards doctors, but that is to be expected when a person lives with pain every
day, and instead of getting guidence from a doctor on how to be pain free, you get told instead that this pain is in your head.Imagined.
The point is I believe the pain continues because my liver is congested with possibly hundreds of small stones that have not calcified and so they are not detectable
with a scan. These stones where formed from cholesterol deposits from having a really crappy diet for a longggggg time.
Because of the liver being clogged up, its stopping the bile from flowing properly thereby causing me to be constipated as well.
The pain attack goes away when I eat brown bread and drink water because I think its causing the bile to flow more again.
I actually wrote to the surgeon who removed my gallbladder and asked his opinion on me doing a liver flush to get rid of the stones,
but Im still waiting for a reply...
And so ends my rambling rant. I hope this was informative though :winks:
Has anyone else suffered from this pain, and whats everyone`s opinions about doing a liver flush. The one thing that scares me about doing a liver flush is the possibility of stones getting stuck in the ducts.
. When this condition first started I went to three different doctors, and heard a range of `theories`, everything from
IBS to its all in my head. Turns out I had gallstones (Discovered after going for a scan, NOT by the doctor, even though I explained all
the text book symptoms of gallstone problems.
When I first heard the doctor tell me my gallbladder had to come out it was really scary for me...but it ended up not being that bad really, I was able to go home 2 days after the operation. Its apparently a very common operation.
Just the other day my mothers friend was also diagnosed with gallstones and has to go for the operation.She also suffers from anxiety.
Even though the gallbladder is now out, my pain persists.
My symptoms would be best described as a slight hollow feeling that would slowly start in my right side stomach area and then it would move to include my upper right rib cage
area and my back would ache on the right side as well.It would be at about this point where the dull ache would start to become painful and within
a matter of minutes completely unbearable. I found the fastest acting solution to this pain would be to QUICKLY eat brown bread and wash it down with a full glass of water.
I found the longer I waited to eat the bread and drink water, the longer it would take for the pain to go away.
I`ve found asking the doctor about why I STILL get this pain even though my gallbladder is now out, results in the classic medical professional answer "Its all in your head".
Funny thats what they said to me before they realised I had gallstones.
There is the other type of pain that I used to get BEFORE the gallbladder was taken out. It was actually the same, except that it wouldnt
become as painful as the other type. And it would last up to 3 hours. (This pain I believe was caused by the stones in my gallbladder).
The brown bread and water solution only seems to work with the fast acting pain, not the slow building pain that lasts for hours.
Then one night this pain became so painful I was rushed to hospital and thats when I told the doctors they can remove my gallbladder.
The other pain persists though (I get a pain attack in the morning, afternoon and evening) and no doctors can help. Their only suggestion
is going for a colonoscupy (how ever its spelt) NOOOOOO Thanks man!!!! Gross! Besides, whats the doctor gonna say "Oh it seems you have some
inflamation in your colon, caused my eating to much processed food. Please take the following vitamins to remedy this." Now that you are finished laughing,
lets continue ;) No, I think they wouldn`t actually have anything intelligent to say really. Probably prescribe me some useless medication.
What can they say. Doctors do not have training in nutrition, i.e. how to keep you healthy.
Thats just my opinion. I apolagise if my tone sounds hostile towards doctors, but that is to be expected when a person lives with pain every
day, and instead of getting guidence from a doctor on how to be pain free, you get told instead that this pain is in your head.Imagined.
The point is I believe the pain continues because my liver is congested with possibly hundreds of small stones that have not calcified and so they are not detectable
with a scan. These stones where formed from cholesterol deposits from having a really crappy diet for a longggggg time.
Because of the liver being clogged up, its stopping the bile from flowing properly thereby causing me to be constipated as well.
The pain attack goes away when I eat brown bread and drink water because I think its causing the bile to flow more again.
I actually wrote to the surgeon who removed my gallbladder and asked his opinion on me doing a liver flush to get rid of the stones,
but Im still waiting for a reply...
And so ends my rambling rant. I hope this was informative though :winks:
Has anyone else suffered from this pain, and whats everyone`s opinions about doing a liver flush. The one thing that scares me about doing a liver flush is the possibility of stones getting stuck in the ducts.