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swgrl09
24-12-12, 10:37
I am really having an anxiety spaz right now. It is about 5:30 AM and I woke up early here, having trouble sleeping bc I increased my lexapro from 10 to 20 mg Thursday due to increasing depression again. So struggling anyway but I was hopeful that I would be back to myself soon.

Well f*ck that! You may have seen my earlier posts being worried about my sister's husband coming home with her, but at least knowing my dad said he was not allowed anywhere near our family. (If you didn't read, he did some really traumatizing things to me last year ... not getting into it here) I also told my dad it would really hurt my feelings if this guy was allowed back into our family because he ahd done it when I was younger, I told my family, and somehow they FORGAVE him. Well then it happened again last year and everybody swore he was not allowed in the family anymore.

Well just noticed pictures on facebook of him at my dad's house celebrating. My dad promised he was not allowed in the house and would not support him or let him be anywhere near any of us. I just feel so betrayed by my family. I am so mad and upset that they are letting him back in the family again.

It may sound trivial, but I don't know if I want to go spend Christmas eve with them tomorrow. I am so upset and angry.

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You know, it makes me so mad. The last time he abused me I was 15 and 16 years old. Nobody supported me. They let him right back into the family. Then he abused me again and I said, this is the last time. I swore up and down to my dad and my sister that if they started letting him be around anymore and be with the family again I was out. Well, that's it. I'm out I guess. Turns out that I really am the only person who can protect myself.

sunshine1
24-12-12, 11:37
I would be mad too! Sorry your family have let you down :( xx

swgrl09
24-12-12, 11:50
it's still too early to call and ask them about it ... i will in an hour or so. i am so mad. i also have been having chills and hot flashes, not sure if i am getting sick or if it is from my increase in meds.

looks like this christmas will be crappy.

wazza
24-12-12, 15:06
I really hope things work out alright for you. Sounds like a really shitty situation, but you will find plenty of support on here. I would protect my daughter to the death and support her in anything all the way.:hugs:

swgrl09
24-12-12, 16:36
thanks for your support sunshine and wazza, it helps as my family is not being supportive at all. my nephew went back to the hospital and my sister is yelling at me that i am being selfish and have to set aside my feelings "for once" and not get what i want (her words). the thing is, i have set aside my feelings all my life for their feelings, which is what kept this abusive man in our family at my expense more than once. so you know what,i am sorry she had a rough night but i am not backing down this time.

Tessar
24-12-12, 17:29
That really sucks, swgrl09. If i were in your situation i'd feel just the same way. There's nothing worse than not being protected by your parents or wider family. First off, its most definitely NOT trivial. Certainly not.
My experience is different to your but I feel it is relevant. My brothers bullied/abused/tormented me & my parents never stopped it so i do know how it feels not to be protected. Its not pleasant to suffer those things & even less pleasant when they are just brushed away as if they dont matter. But they do.
My parents have refused to face it. Years later when trying to discuss this with my parents, they just make it out like none of it was THAT bad. Even one of my other brothers begged them for help & they wouldnt back down to help him. It was more important to them not to admit the family had problems than it was to admit to even some of it and then help their son. They basically abandoned him in a time of need. That's very selfhish.
The whole forgiveness thing is very, very complicated. For my money I dont see that it's up to your family to forgive him - that is for you to do (or NOT to do as the case may be). I most certainly have NOT forgiven one of my brothers because he never showed any remorse & was clueless about what he did to me & how the damage has lasted. Another one of my brothers has shown remorse & apologised. He has also helped me get over some of what happened. He validated me & made me see that it DID happen. He doesnt deny it.
In your last post where you mention your sister yelling at you about being selfish, that's just typical of families in this situation. Regarding set aside your feelings..... "for once" that really angered me that she would say that. It's excatly how my family were with me. You are so right that you have set aside your feelings all your life for their feelings,. Again this is very indicative of dysfunctional families. I would be behind you all the way if you decide not to back down.
Your family however seem to be stepping past it rather too easily for my liking. Sorry if I sound a bit wound up about it & sorry too as I'm not trying to make you feel worse at all. More so I'm trying to show that I can empathise. When I hear about other people have these issues it really irritates me. I wish I could just walk in & do some firm talking to get families to see sense. To be realistic about what's happened and to begin the healing process for people such as you.
They cant make you go over on xmas day. Its your decision. You know, it was many, many years ago what happened to me & only now decades later am I making choices to cut the unhealthy people out of my life. I wont be speaking to my parents on xmas day for the first time in my life tomorrow. Sometimes that makes me feel a bit guilty but I have to remind myself of the hassle I've had off them over the years & the lack of support.
If you can make choices that help you even in the short term, then perhaps your instincts are telling you what's best. Of course I cant give you a direct answer becasue it isnt happening to me, but why be somewhere and with people you really dont want to be? Of course you also need to consider the alternative because it may be that some members of your family are OK and you do like their company. So you wouldnt want to cut them out of your xmas either.
I dont know if I can go online tomorrow so may not be able to look out for further posts maybe til boxing day but if I can i'll be around. hope it goes ok in the end for you.

wazza
24-12-12, 17:33
Good on ya. Stand up for yourself. I dont know how your sister can expect you to put aside your feelings just like that.Grrr.... Im getting mad for ya. Hope you manage to have a christmas despite. Just try to stay away from him and make it obvious its him that you have a problem with, not the rest of YOUR family. Rant over, sorry

take care

ps maybe we should send "the boys" round....

swgrl09
24-12-12, 17:49
Thank you both SO much for your supportive and understanding replies. Both mean so much to me. It is so hard and when they have been yelling at me the past couple of hours on the phone, I have begun to question myself and feel guilty ... which I cannot do this time. I have to stand my ground.

My sister is now trying to make me feel guilty using her son, saying it is his first christmas and how can i make her be in the middle of this. Odd, because two weeks ago she was saying his first christmas is no big deal because hes too little to know what is going on anyway.

I am just upset, I keep ignoring the phone now. They are mad at me and my fiance for not wanting to go spend christmas eve dinner with them and just stay home together. I have been crying all morning.

I miss my mom, she would have stuck up for me ...

wazza
24-12-12, 17:56
you are lucky you have your fiance. stick together and make it YOUR christmas. dont feel pressured to do what others want. you are important. you count. it is your choice.

best wishes to you and yours:hugs:

swgrl09
24-12-12, 18:08
thank you, i am trying .... trying so hard not to feel guilty and suck it up, which is what i would used to do ... this is it, this has been one of the many things i have been working on in therapy ... standing up to them and not feeling guilty about it. I have to do this.

wazza
24-12-12, 18:09
Do it Girl, you know you can.

panickyme
24-12-12, 18:25
Awwww swgrl I am sorry you have to deal with that. I too have been betrayed by family, and it makes things so much worse.( It makes you feel like you can't trust anyone, if you can't trust family.) (I have major trust issues!!!) and that is why! You have a great man standing along side of you, you are going to get through this!!!!! I hope you have a Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year. :hugs:

swgrl09
24-12-12, 20:56
thank you panickyme and wazza :hugs:

i stuck to my guns. my sister (not the one married to the douche) called and screamed at me, but i stuck to my point. eventually after 30 minutes on the phone with her (in the walmart parking lot...) she calmed down and apologized. she said she feels powerless because my other sister is her twin, and i guess has threatened suicide many times. although i have mental health problems, i am not suicidal and have a great fiance so she does not worry about me and she knows it is not fair. she does not know what to do. i told her to talk to our other sister about that.

then i called my other sister (the one married to the douche) and she said she was told by our sister and my dad that it was ok if her husband came around. i said that was not what they told me. she said she understands why i am mad but she will be married to this guy for the rest of her life. i said i accept that everybody is an adult and can make their own choices, i just want people to be honest and up front with me so i can make my own decisions.

so i am still upset, feel a little calmer but just totally wiped out. i don't know what to do anymore. i don't want her to be married to this guy but i cannot make her decisions for her. i don't want her to be suicidal but i have to also worry about myself too ... i feel so lost. i can't trust my dad and my other sister because they just lie to me to appease me. i am so confused and tired of this bull sh*t

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my sisters are begging me to go to christmas eve dinner and just have dinner together ... i don't know what to do.

sunshine1
24-12-12, 21:23
I agree with other posters, do what is right for you and don not let anyone make you feel guilty. It is your decision. You shouldn't have to spend time with this man to make everyone else happy. it is your life. if having dinner with them all is going to add to your stress, don't go. Apart from anything else, are you supposed to carry on conversations with this man as if nothing has happened?

Good luck, don't feel pressurised. xxxxxx

Col
25-12-12, 10:24
Swgrl,

Hope your ok, read your post last night...... Gosh! Absolutly with you and I think anyone would feel totally smacked in the face by all this that you've explained! Fact!
I've had serious betrayal off my family and The bit about your sister and telling you to stop being selfish - discusting! Sounds to me like you've done the opposite and been completely ~ self-less on numerous occasions! So high time you put your foot down and your feelings first, this time! Enough is enough! Whatever other things are going on, I'm sorry but damn right- you think about yourself . I can tell by the thread how bad things have been and how many times you've been left to deal and get on with it all! Discusting , sorry if I sound heartless ( ive got little kids & nephews) BUT someone being in hospital , is not enough now , for you to simply swallow this , yet again! Stand firm and keep your head up.
WHAT if you get ill from all this stress - yet again ???? They'll be sorry then!
:winks:

wazza
25-12-12, 11:54
Good for you, you stuck to your guns. Let us (or me at least) know how you get on. I worry...

swgrl09
25-12-12, 13:29
Hi everybody, thank you so much for your support. I am really moved by it all. Sending you hugs :hugs::hugs::hugs:

My fiance and I had a nice Christmas Eve together. I stayed strong. I am going to see one of my aunts today. I spoke with her last night on the phone, and she is totally supportive of me, which was nice to hear. She offered to speak with my family or be there to back me up if I ever need it. So I am glad I have family members who do get it.

So we'll spend Christmas Dinner with my aunt and her family. I am just so exhausted from this. What a frustrating Christmas.

Thanks again to all here for your supportive words and giving me the strength to stick to what I believe and stand up for myself. I TRULY could not have done it without you. :bighug1: :bighug1:

I hope i can keep this up in the future

panickyme
25-12-12, 13:31
Sooo proud of you for letting your sister know how you feel and following through. Good Job. I am so happy for you that you have at least one family member you can count on. (that's all you need, to keep strong, is to know at least one family member has your back! Hope you are alright today, and have a merry christmas. Let me know what happened. :hugs:(We all have your back!)

wazza
25-12-12, 19:33
Im proud of you too. Well flippin done!! and of course you can keep it up. The hardest part is over, just enjoy yourselves !!

swgrl09
26-12-12, 02:11
Thanks all :D

Tomorrow my sisters want to have lunch before the one married to the douche goes back to California. Don't know if I am up to it, but don't know when I'll see her again.

wazza
26-12-12, 02:55
i would go but only if the douchbag doesnt go. i still cant believe this can be happening to you. The attitude of your family is what allows abuse to continue . my heart goes out to you

Tessar
26-12-12, 14:17
thank you, i am trying .... trying so hard not to feel guilty and suck it up, which is what i would used to do ... this is it, this has been one of the many things i have been working on in therapy ... standing up to them and not feeling guilty about it. I have to do this.
IT IS very hard to cope with guilt.... but i'm glad you are dealing with it in therapy coz that's the way forwrd. you keep standing up for yourself!!!

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Hi everybody, thank you so much for your support. I am really moved by it all. Sending you hugs
My fiance and I had a nice Christmas Eve together. I stayed strong. I am going to see one of my aunts today. I spoke with her last night on the phone, and she is totally supportive of me, which was nice to hear. She offered to speak with my family or be there to back me up if I ever need it. So I am glad I have family members who do get it.
So we'll spend Christmas Dinner with my aunt and her family. I am just so exhausted from this. What a frustrating Christmas.
Thanks again to all here for your supportive words and giving me the strength to stick to what I believe and stand up for myself. I TRULY could not have done it without you.
I hope i can keep this up in the future
So pleased you had a good xmas eve & that with the support of peole here you were able to stick to your guns over xmas day too. What a massive achievement, well done to you!!! Plus, there you are sending everyone hugs. I love it. Hopefully as you say, you can build on these experiences & continue to grow in strength with the help you are receiving in therapy.

swgrl09
26-12-12, 21:28
Thank you again, I really can't thank everybody enough here. I did go to lunch with my sisters, but it was uneventful as they had friends there too. Just saw the baby, who is home from the hospital and feeling better (Thank god!)

I have two aunts who have reached out to me and are being very supportive. They are my mom's sisters. They would like to get together after the new year and figure out a way to talk to my dad and my sisters to get things straightened out for good. I hope it works. I am so tired of this!

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and wazza, that is the most frustrating thing because i know what my family does enables the abuse and they know it too. i feel like thy are more worried about my sister than me, which makes me feel like i am not cared for by them. it has been a disappointing christmas.

wazza
27-12-12, 00:23
aw sweetheart, i wish i could make it all better for you. take care and remember, you have freinds here xx