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Oh dear I've just watched eastenders and carol found a lump in her breast , I feel sick and now feel like it's a sign , I had my breasts scanned in July and am now worrying about breast issues :( not a lump but fatty tissue in the same place I had scanned , I know it's pathetic and I'm being a baby but it's ruined my night :(
TV Shows, Health Articles, anything that screams health can scare us sometimes. Preventive medicine can usually ease the fears, but with HA it doesn't go away, and it sucks! Rebecca, don't fear, take a deep breath and remember its the anxiety. I know it's hard to do, but CBT and medication got me through it and you can get through this too. Anxiety makes us think something is deeply wrong and we have to go to the ER now, but when we get there, the doctors look at us thinking we have 5 heads! And the end result: we are sent home with that fear, and the never ending cycle continues. My HA from Post Concussion Syndrome ended into a trip into the emergency room, and landed into the inpatient section of the mental health team. They took care of me and my fears, and I landed on Paxil and CBT, and alternative medicine such as Fish Oil and Massage Therapy. Fish Oil helps my ADHD and helped my earlier depressive episodes from anxiety, massage therapy just relaxes and eases the mind. Just remember, its just anxiety, and you can get rid of it.
With Love,
Elisa (Consider)
Thanks I know what your saying but once I get it into my head it's hard to shake it and the endless checking begins , I'm getting older and now I'm 34 feel I'm at an age where things probably will start going wrong x
That's one of the funny, unreliable things about HA, isn't it? We pick and choose what we decide to hear from the universe and then decide what we picked was a message. We didn't take this as a message from the universe that we're going to start a career in nighttime soaps, or go to the East End, or whip up some coronation chicken, or meet somebody named Hayley, all of which is every bit as plausible as the health interpretation.
One of the problems with HA is distinguishing signal from noise. The world and our bodies do a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything, and it's hard for us to accept that. But how much more peaceful for us when we can!
That's one of the funny, unreliable things about HA, isn't it? We pick and choose what we decide to hear from the universe and then decide what we picked was a message. We didn't take this as a message from the universe that we're going to start a career in nighttime soaps, or go to the East End, or whip up some coronation chicken, or meet somebody named Hayley, all of which is every bit as plausible as the health interpretation.
One of the problems with HA is distinguishing signal from noise. The world and our bodies do a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything, and it's hard for us to accept that. But how much more peaceful for us when we can!
Very well said and a great description of what HA is in my opinion. "Distinguishing signal from noise." Last night I didn't feel so well. I won't get into details but suffice it to say I was miserable :( I spent some time tuning into my body. I could hear my heart beating. I was focused on my breathing. I could feel little twitches in my legs, feet and neck. My throat felt funny etc. All things that I pretty much feel all the time but ignore them as they're mostly side effects from my cancer and treatment. However, I could understand how someone with HA would focus obsessively of these things and allow it to spiral out of control until the fear became totally irrational.
I wouldn't wish what I went through on anyone but I wish I could put some of the members here in my body for a few days and see what I deal with day in and day out. I have fears and worries too but they just don't consume me. That's the "signal vs the noise". ;)
Take the bull by the horns and tune your radio so that you get the best signal. All the noise does is make you worry :)
Positive thoughts
Fishmanpa. :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:rebeccad:hugs::hugs::hugs:
And hugs for others :hugs::hugs::hugs:xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Maybe some may think me bonkers for sending you hugs, but I don't care
jimbobrooney
14-12-13, 19:06
Thanks I know what your saying but once I get it into my head it's hard to shake it and the endless checking begins , I'm getting older and now I'm 34 feel I'm at an age where things probably will start going wrong x
Things go wrong at 34? Things can go wrong at 34 weeks old and at any instant along the way .
Things might not go wrong until you are 85 ! We have to enjoy the ride while it lasts!
P.s watching those soaps is a terrible waste of previous time :-)
I wish I could just enjoy my life but I can't , after Christmas I'm going to see a private therapist who specialises in health anxiety My nhs mental health centre don't have a clue, x
jimbobrooney
14-12-13, 19:20
I wish I could just enjoy my life but I can't , after Christmas I'm going to see a private therapist who specialises in health anxiety My nhs mental health centre don't have a clue, x
I hope you get it under control because if you don't you will be eaten up with regret when you end up living until 80
Everyone here needs to do more epic stuff so they won't have regrets in later life. My 2014 list includes learning to dive and to surf , swim with dolphins , get married and volunteer with the special Olympics and nothing is going to stop me in getting these things done !
Oh dear I've just watched eastenders and carol found a lump in her breast , I feel sick and now feel like it's a sign , I had my breasts scanned in July and am now worrying about breast issues :( not a lump but fatty tissue in the same place I had scanned , I know it's pathetic and I'm being a baby but it's ruined my night :(
Rebecca,
I'm sorry you're feeling down. I want you to read your post a few times and try to look at it from outside yourself. Do you realize you've allowed a TV show... a TV show... to influence your thinking and mood? You allowed it to make you feel bad and caused you to think, absurdly I might add, that this is a sign that you have a serious disease. A sign of what? That medical science was wrong when they gave you the all clear a few short months ago?
Now, if John Travolta as Michael the Archangel appeared and told you flat out to pay attention to the Eastenders because there will be a message relevant to you only then I might be taking it more seriously (probably not but you get my drift), but seriously, if you can do that and look at what caused your to feel bad you might just slap yourself upside the head ;)
I think it's great that you're taking the steps to get treatment by seeing a therapist privately. I wish more would follow your lead. I'm doing the same for some depression/PTSD issues I'm experiencing. By doing so you're acknowledging there is an issue and that's the first step in healing.
Positive thoughts and prayers
:Di'm sat here reading these posts and thinking that's just like me and at the same time thinking how ridiculous it is to think like that but we still do it every time we some something like that .
Fishmanpa thanks for the post , I really really appreciate it , I've been reading your story and yet you still find time to post and help others , and I want to thank you on behalf of everybody you've given advice to , you are so strong and I wish I could be more positive , but in 2014 I am going to get myself sorted I will not waste another year , my friend died aged 34 and it has made me think about the fact that it could be me , thanks again for your support , could you move to England and be my therapist please ��������x
jimbobrooney
14-12-13, 20:31
What did your friend die from ?
You are still here abd deserve to live a life
She died of cervical cancer , was heart breaking and she found out a week before her wedding x
jimbobrooney
14-12-13, 21:25
Yes that is just totally totally tragic . She got to get married I presume ? At least that's something. A lot of people never get that privilege .
That doesn't mean that you should put your life on hold though
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Also, I am 33 and have about 25 cousins. Two of those (who were brother abd sister) had cancer before they were 21 and are fine today. Another dropped dead at 25 from a heart attack and was buried in her wedding dress
We all know sad stories but life is for living and we need to keep going !
Yes I agree and we should all make the most of our lives , when you get something in your head it's hard to shake x
Sorry to bore everyone I'm not waiting till after Xmas I'm booking my appointment tomorrow I'm not wasting another day that I don't have to x
Sorry to bore everyone I'm not waiting till after Xmas I'm booking my appointment tomorrow I'm not wasting another day that I don't have to x
Way to go Rebecca! :yesyes: I truly appreciate wanting me to come to the UK. Unfortunately, I went to the school of hard knocks and I'm not qualified to be a therapist ;) That being said, I got your back and will be your biggest cheerleader as you tackle the beast and will offer any support I can.
Positive thoughts!
bettykitten
15-12-13, 21:14
Oh my God, I totally do this! I am so glad that I am not the only loon! :D
Ace post too, Fishmanpa. :)
Nope I'm a fellow loon :) x
bettykitten
15-12-13, 21:25
It's strangely reassuring though, when you find someone else that does the same mad things as you. It means it's another thing that you can attribute to the HA, instead of it being a real thing. If you know what I mean?!
Lol yes I agree when you don't know anybody with ha you feel like you are a freak , my husband thinks and tells me I'm crazy , which is fine as he doesn't understand as he doesn't suffer , perhaps it's our old age lol x
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