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Crypton
30-12-13, 08:46
Hello guys, this might be a long post so in advance I apologize..

I am a 22yo male and have been suffing from anxiety since I was 17.

Growing up I was always alittle worried about certain things, I was never really emotionally strong, but I always tried to be.
When I was in highschool at the age of 14-15 one of my friends from school died of a heart attack (was born with the condition), this really rocked me since nobody close to me had died since this point.

I never really worried about dying of a heart attack at this point though.
at the age of 16 I got into my first proper relationship, I started drinking socially (getting pretty drunk) and smoking weed socially, and I am not going to lie I did have some fun times at the time.

Just before I turned 17 me and my ex broke up, I handled it pretty well and we both agreed we should break up.
After the break up I started seeing a lot more girls (flings) and started partying/drinking/smoking weed/ and was starting to get addicted to cigarettes.

When my troubles began.
After work one day I decided to buy my friend and I a heap of weed I got off my dealer friend, (turned out to be hydro stuff which is x2 as strong or something).
After taking 3 hits, I did not feel good at all, I could not chill out and laugh like I usually would after smoking, we decided to watch a scary movie (no idea why), during the movie I started zoning out and had 100% focus on my thoughts, I was thinking about my friend who died of a heart attack at school at the time, then all of a sudden, BAM! heart felt like it jumped out of my chest and was racing 100 mile an hour, this was my first anxiety attack and my friends reassured me I was ok.

Second attack.
Me and 2 other friends were at the beach one day, and thought we would order hot chips and walk up a headland and eat them overlooking the beach.
This attack was alot worse, I was 100% convinced I was having a heart attack, I almost fainted and I called the ambulance, the ambulance rocked up and told me it was a panic attack and was nothing serious...

After this, the phobia of having a heart attack began, I went to emergancy rooms atleast once a week. sore my local Dr once per 2 weeks, and got a ecg + blood test done and all came back fine, and got a X-ray + stress test and echo cardio gram thing and all came back sweet.

I stopped drinking / Smoking weed / and smoking cigarettes (thank god).

This went on for 1.5 years.

im 18 turning 19 in 6 months, I am on medication for my anxiety (trialed about 6 different ones and all made me feel x2 worse).
I was getting a little out of shape at 85kg (still looked fine though) and my normal body weight was 77kg roughly. (6ft tall).
so I decided to ditch the medication, and try to get fit again.
So I started lifting weights, 30minutes + of cardio everyday and eat smaller healthier meals.
I ended up getting in good lean shape, had a 6 pack and my anxiety was at a all time low.
And cardio is like my reasurence, if I can do intense cardio every day for 30minutes + it must be doing ok I figure.

My biggest anxiety attack of all time
This was truly terrifying, words cannot describe how brutal this attack was, I was 110% sure I was not going to make it, I had stayed awake for almost 48hours (yes I know this isnt good for anxiety) and I started feeling anxious, started having an anxiety attack, and my grandparents were there reassuring me I was ok, 5 minutes into the attack and my hands and feet start going numb, then my legs and arms, then my chest (this is when I was start freaking out), the ambulance rocked up, they took my blood pressure and it was 210, which is crazy high, eventually I calm down, and they forced me to walk to the ambulance, I was shaking so much, felt like my nervious system took a massive hit, and I went to the emergance and they sent me home within no time.

2 years goes by and I started getting pretty skinny due to having a image disorder and ate roughly 1800 calories per day and did so much cardio.

at 21 I still have a phobia of my heart. Had seen 4 heart specialist and had stress test and echo gram tests and still good as new, the reasurence from these test were short lived though (2months max) and I slowly fell into my old thinking habbits, I see my 5th heart specialist in april of 2013 and it was the same outcome.

So I decide to ditch my image disorder and start powerlifting and try to put on muscle, I still do cardio every day. I just make sure I eat the calories I burn.

But one night I was Cycling and looking at my heart rate / Calories counting watch when I was not feeling to good, and my pulse was at 190 (which I normally sit at 160, 170 max, and I freaked out then it jumped up to 210.
Long story short, drove out to the emergency and they told me I was fine aslong as theres no symptoms : /

and basically I still have almost no life apart from working out to combat my anxiety fears.

I dont smoke, drink, do drugs, no family history of heart attacks.

If you are still reading this post, I am extremely thankful that you are going out of your way to read all of this :)

Now my currently I feel like I might actually die of a heart attack.
I used to have athletes heart rate from so much cardio, 35-50 bpm was my average resting heart rate for a good year, now all of a sudden I cant get it below 50 and I wake up sometimes and its at 70. I know this is not high, but for me its abnormal since I still do alot of cardio and eat cleanly.

I am terrified I could talk myself into a heart attack (I feel like I am obsessed with having a heart attack) I think about it so much and it terrifies me.
I dont have a fear of dying, just dying from a heart attack scares me.

Sometimes when i relax at night, it feels like my heart skips / double beats and it wakes me up if im asleep and I will feel like im out of breath and have a massive pump of adrenaline.

I still get chest pains, and the fear of a heart attack stops me from living life...

I have had all the tests possible, my cholesterol was actually really low last time I had it done, I eat feel clean and count my macros and calories due to training, so I know my sodium / Saturated / trans / sugars are all in check, but yet I am still fearful.

I am currently 80kg in body weight on an empty stomache at the moment but in much better shape when I was this weight when I was 18-19...

Lately I was been calling my mum crying every night due to the fear of having a heart attack and have no idea what its going to take to convince me otherwise, I have even admitted to wanting to commit suicide just due to the fact my phobia is so strong and I would rather pick my own way to die.
I am not a suicidal person and I love life, I am just terrified of talking myself into a heart attack or something.

I am in tears writing this stuff down since the last 5 years have been agonizing and I feel like theres nothing more I can do to make the phobia stop, I exercise alot, I eat clean, I meditate, I have a good sleeping pattern now, and I am doing CBT therapy.

If anybody even thinks they could help me, even if its in the slightest possible way, Words could not describe how thankful I would be.

Thank you

...Bryce

HoneyLove
30-12-13, 09:13
Hi Bryce, welcome to the forum :)

How long have you been doing the CBT for? Have you spoken to your therapist about the heart attack fears or have they given you any specific exercises to work on them? Have they given you any tools to help stop panic attacks?

Fear of heart attack is so common with anxiety, and it sounds like you've had all the tests and are very healthy. Learning to trust your doctors is a big part of recovery from anxiety, and CBT should help you learn this too.

You sound very proactive and are taking all the right steps to help yourself, the healthy lifestyle and things like meditation will definitely help you in time. You might want to add more relaxation methods into your week to help your nervous system to relax - are you meditating every day?

I think you may also benefit from breathing exercises or the Emotion Freedom Technique to help you reduce panic attacks, it would be worth looking into those.

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PS - one thing I forgot to mention, you need to stop checking your heart rate. It's only feeding your anxiety and fears. I know as an athlete you might want to keep an eye on it, but personally it seems to have become a checking behaviour that's only adding to your problem and taking a break from it may help you to feel calmer.

Fishmanpa
30-12-13, 11:56
Hi Bryce,

First off, I'm old enough to be your Dad so I'm going to talk as if I were talking to my son. I know about partying and I did my fair share (actually way more than my fair share ~lol~) So I know what you're saying. Congratulations of quitting everything. That's one of the best things you could have done for yourself. There are many here on this forum still doing this and suffering because of it.

I've had two, count 'em two heart attacks. This was due to several factors, one of which was an unhealthy lifestyle. You're doing the right thing in eating right and exercising. You already know this but the chances of you having one are well... 0% at your age and physical condition. I definitely understand your fear because quite frankly they suck big time!

HoneyLove gave you some good advice. This being an internet forum and none of us being qualified therapists or doctors limits what we can tell you other than experience but it's the experience that can be helpful in your case. Physically you're fine. You've have numerous doctor visits and tests to prove it. Mentally, it's obvious that you're struggling but honestly, I see many positives in your post. You're quite self aware and don't seem to let every little niggle cause you to panic. You're also being pro-active in seeking treatment which again, is light years ahead of many. You seem to have accepted your situation and are doing the right things to treat yourself.

As you get into the CBT, there will be exercises and techniques you'll learn. As you do with your exercise regime, practice those techniques. Your fear of a heart attack was motivation to exercise. That same fear of a panic attack is motivation to practice your CBT. Use the same discipline you've learned in physical fitness and apply that to your mental fitness. It's really no different, you're just working a different muscle if you know what I mean. Eventually that fear will wane and you'll find another motivating factor that won't be as intensive as the fear you experience now but it will be equally motivating and more positive.

Look into the EFT techniques (you can Youtube them) and get into some relaxation or meditation/breathing exercises to help combat the beast. I agree with HLove about checking your pulse. You sound a bit obsessive about it and there's no reason to be. The relaxation/meditation exercises will help you with that.

I don't suffer with anxiety so I approach many posts and replies from an outside perspective. Like I said, I see many positives in your post and I see someone who can take the bull by the horns and defeat the beast.

Positive thoughts

Crypton
30-12-13, 13:57
Thank you honey love and fishmanpa for taking the time to read and reply to my post, no words can express how thankful I am!

Ill try respond to both of you in this one post :)

Honeylove

I have been doing cbt for a good year, but I find no situation puts me into panic apart from thinking I'm having a heart attack really...

I 'was doing 2 20minute meditation sessions per day but after a month it became a chore and I stopped for awhile, I have recently started again, but starting with 5 minutes per day and going to increase it by a minute per week to slowly get back into it, and If you could recommend certain breathing exercises that would be great :) . And I'm not sure IF my nervous system may be abit stress or not do to my anxiety/weight lifting/ cardio or not, I might actually look into that..
Fishmanpa

I was overwhelmed by your post, seems like you have a lot of life experiences behind you..

I really took in what you said about tryin to train your mind like I would a muscle or me doing exercise due to y heart fear..

I am going I give my all and get into meditation and take my cbt therapy more serious I guess haha

I just want to be normal again more than ever, and not get nervous of travelling or going certain places due to my fear of having a heart attack.

So from your outsiders view, do you really think I am as close to 0% a I could be fishmanpa?

I really appreciate the help guys and I will reply back in the morning :) thank you

Fishmanpa
30-12-13, 15:16
So from your outsiders view, do you really think I am as close to 0% a I could be fishmanpa?

Bryce,

I don't like reassurance because it really doesn't work from my experience but in this case it's more straight up logic than anything else. Everyone here has their kryptonite. Your's is your heart fear. The bad guy is anxiety. Defeat that and there's no chance of being exposed to the kryptonite.

From what you said, your ECG/EKG being normal, your doctor not being concerned, the fact that you're a workout animal that eats healthy, you don't smoke, drink or do drugs and you only 22 years old for crying out loud! .... I really feel there is no chance for a heart attack.

I'm not a doctor but I'll lay down some cash that a doctor would (and probably has) say the same thing ;)

Positive thoughts

Crypton
05-01-14, 11:50
Hey fishmanpa! Sorry It has taken me so long to reply. I understand about you not like reassurance and I have always been told it's not a good thing for people who suffer anxiety. I feel like its a quick hit of nicotine for a person who is addicted to cigarettes I guess. I am so scared I will die from a heart attack, that getting reassurance makes me feel ontop of the world for a short period of time : /.

I just feel so helpless with what to do next.... I accept that I will die some day, but I am petrified of dying of a heart attack, and it's crippling me in the mean time. I wish I knew of a rehab jab centre with a high success rate I could go to or something along those lines