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phil6
11-05-14, 07:04
Hi,
I really found that being able to resolve the mental worry by accepting that my physical discomfort is always brought on by a thought, whether if can identify it or not, very helpful. Then understanding that most of what then happens is subconcious and not controllable by thinking is also a relief. It allowed me to stop a lot of the rumination and consciously trying to change the way I felt, which was prolonging the situation. I do not think my main problem is PA. It is more GAD.
I never have believed that my anxiety is going to do me major harm, but it does drag me down and spoil what should be a good and enjoyable life, as I have no other life problems.
As a result of keeping these things in mind, I started to give my mind a rest and after a few days I started to feel more calm. My sensitisation seemed to be calming down and things got quite good.
After about a week, I started to return to the old me. I was having days when I thought only occasionally about anxiety, and even then felt little reaction. How nice!
Then the thought arose, "what if it comes back" and I lose the progress I have made. This thought generated some anxiety and I felt myself slipping back. The feelings escalated over 24 hours to become almost panic. I find myself desperately trying to revert back to the good time. The sudden change back to high anxiety, nausea, sweating is such a contrast, it is shocking and distressing. The dread and doom with all the associated negative thoughts reduce me to despair.
Setbacks are well documented but I am so concerned that all the good work is being trashed.
The things I have learned must still be valid and I can see how I have thought my way into this setback.
But just how do you combat these distructive tendencies. I feel so doomed at this time that whenever I make progress they are dashed and I react so badly to the return of the lump in my stomach and the dread of another spell of despair.
So far I have resisted the urge to retreat and cry for relief. I have done so many times in the past and I am not sure it helps in the long run. I find myself unable to stop the constant trying to think correctly. I go round and round in my head repeating what I have read and trying to reassure myself, but these thoughts are constantly interrupted by fearful thoughts about failing to recover, which keep giving me spurts of adrenaline and resulting sensations of dread. This feeling of dread, and the sickly stomach is horrible.
This cycle of getting better, then doubting myself and sinking into setback is becoming regular, and almost habit.
Anyone else find this happening... What am I doing wrong?
Phil

xrachykinsx
11-05-14, 15:50
If you need to cry Phil, do it. Its totally normal to get upset and cry at times. I've been on a very bumpy road like yourself, worrying about if I will ever be myself again and the truth is that I am myself right now. I have so many things on my mind at the moment that the thought of if I'm okay or not doesn't really come into my mind.

I went for a CBT session and she signed me off her books as she said I've already done everything she would be teaching me. The techniques from CBT are not instant fixes. It takes constant reassurance and rational thoughts to challenge the bad. Are you on any medication? I can't remember if you are xx

Fishmanpa
11-05-14, 16:07
The techniques from CBT are not instant fixes. It takes constant reassurance and rational thoughts to challenge the bad.

Exactly! It's not unlike what someone must do with a chronic physical illness. For example: I have swallowing issues (among other things) due to cancer treatment. I have to do swallowing exercises "every day" or I'll lose the ability. I definitely notice when I've slacked off a bit.

The same applies for CBT techniques and other therapies for chronic mental illnesses. It's pretty common to start feeling better, slack off on the techniques and then get hit with a backslide. It's more of a life change one has to make to keep things under control.

Positive thoughts

jackie13
11-05-14, 17:47
Hi Phil

How about trying something different and doing nothing?

Eg not even replacing bad thoughts with good thoughts. I try and practise this and it works for me (usually), I still sometimes get the bad days.

I find that if I try and replace thoughts, I feel like I am still giving the bad thought to much emphasis. I try and let the thoughts just come and go.

Mindfullness is great for this.

Hugs
Jackie x

Annie0904
11-05-14, 17:51
Me too :( What I have discovered though is that the set backs are just that set backs and don't last long. This time I am having a little set back and I am going on holiday in a few weeks so I am thinking "What if I am anxious for the holiday" which of course makes me more anxious. I have to change those thoughts around and tell myself I won't be anxious and will enjoy my holiday.

hanshan
22-05-14, 11:41
Hi Phil,

While I admire your strength in going it alone, if you get to the end of 2014 and the CW approach is still not producing results, please consider one or more of the medication approaches you have so far rejected.