Rescue remedy

[Worried_Male]

Anybody tried this? What are your experiences with it?

I took some today and it actually knocked the edge off a bit. I was very sceptical taking it as well. Only took it because the wife insisted. Never thought a few flowers could help, but it definitely did and I don't think it's placebo.

[Catherine S]

Yep, flowers always help :D ! Quite a few people find rescue remedy is great for situations like taking exams or travelling etc, particularly if you don't want to take heavy duty meds every day. Other natural remedies include Valerian and Kalms which do the same thing. You can also get a night time rescue remedy to help you sleep.

ISB x

[Suziewuzie]

I have the tongue spray. I like it, it tastes like wine & I feel better knowing I have it on me in social situations x

[Pipkin]

I use it now and again. Not sure if it helps but I keep an open mind and anything's worth a try when anxiety comes knocking.

Pip

[NoraB]

I carry a bottle in my bag and it's calmed me down many times, especially in the car if I feel myself getting anxious.

[rosegarden]

I have the White chesnut bach Flowers for obsessive thoughts but it calms my anxiety aswell very surprised it actually works! Nice for a quick temporary calm.

[Frayed Medic!]

I'm a bit of a sceptic when it comes to self medicating with substances that there is zero evidence of scientific cited research/studies apart from pure pseudoscience.

A review conducted in 2010 of all the pertinent studies of "best evidence" produced by the Cochrane Collaboration concluded that "the most reliable evidence – that produced by Cochrane reviews – fails to demonstrate that homeopathic medicines have effects beyond placebo.

I will admit though an effect if felt is real even if the effect is placebo in origin. So I don't disapprove entirely as obviously many people use these and find them useful, Prince Charles included.

What leaves a nasty taste in my mouth is that the people selling/marketing these products must be laugh all the way to the bank with the mark up they're making.
Also it's a shame some people use these products instead of conventional medicine/treatment for serious life threatening illnesses.

If you fancy a chuckle have a look on YouTube for Homeopathic A&E by Mitchell and Webb.

[debs71]

I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to 'reviews conducted' and 'scientific evidence'.

So what if a pompous study says there is nothing evidential that a product such as Rescue Remedy works? If the anxiety sufferer somehow feels better for taking it, even if it is due to a placebo effect, then IMO THAT is the most important thing, not what some nutty professor type says or tried to validate.

Yes, it may well be that a homeopathic product doesn't tick scientific proof boxes, but if it works for the individual, then as I said....SO WHAT??

I have taken RR on a number of occasions, prior to events that make me anxious, such as long distance travel and appointments. It has helped me calm down a little - not greatly - but has taken the edge of. Whether this is due to - as some claim - the base alcohol content in it - I don't know, but nor do I care. If it works, it is all good!

[Frayed Medic!]

Hi Debs

I did add the caveat in my post that the placebo effect is an effect therefore the user feels it.
It worries me that you think the majority of studies are "bunk".

Would you prefer that any company can release a medication/supplement with outrageous/unrealistic claims and the efficacy and long term use of study/research is not in place to validate these claims and safety profile?
Before you state studies etc have made multiple mistakes in the past, yep, they definitely have, but as everything else science is advancing. Yes, I agree there has been very flawed research in the past and I think sponsored studies and "agreeable" study bias has to be condemned and made unlawful but I'd much prefer some safeguards than a free for all, wouldn't you agree?

[debs71]

Hi Debs

I did add the caveat in my post that the placebo effect is an effect therefore the user feels it.
It worries me that you think the majority of studies are "bunk".

Would you prefer that any company can release a medication/supplement with outrageous/unrealistic claims and the efficacy and long term use of study/research is not in place to validate these claims and safety profile?
Before you state studies etc have made multiple mistakes in the past, yep, they definitely have, but as everything else science is advancing. Yes, I agree there has been very flawed research in the past and I think sponsored studies and "agreeable" study bias has to be condemned and made unlawful but I'd much prefer some safeguards than a free for all, wouldn't you agree?

Umm, sorry. Where do I say I think the majority of studies are bunk?

I said nothing of the sort. I said that who cares if a homeopathic item such as RR has been scientifically proven to work or not, as long as the user feels it does. As far as I am aware, we live in a democracy. People are not compelled to buy and try something, and will make their own choice about trying it, studies or not.

That is very different to me saying all scientific testing is 'bunk' and that this kind of testing is 'flawed.' Again, I never said that. Of course scientific testing is useful. Of course it has it's place. What I am saying is that when it comes to off the shelf, pretty non-descript, potentially useful remedies such as RR, if a sufferer finds that the product works for them PERSONALLY, then what does it matter if these 'scientific tests' say otherwise?

Please don't put words in my mouth. There is also a HUGE difference between medication and a homeopathic, low risk product such as RR too.

Perhaps you have some kind of agenda here??

Regardless, I beg to differ with your opinion, so am bowing out of this thread here.

[Frayed Medic!]

I tired. I concede "bunk" was not used but I stand by my view re studies.
"Pompous study" and "nutty professor" the words you used. And yet again, you were unable to read and digest my posts!
I said they DO WORK for some as the placebo is a effect that's real for the person using the supplement. Do you not understand that I was agreeing but WOW, you like not to be challenged eh, which I wasn't doing!
You failed to answer the questions re seriously unwell people who believe this is more than a placebo effect and refuse the chance of recovery by dismissing conventional medicine! You will retort that it's there choice, and if they have mental capacity it is. But it should be informed choice and they are not correctly informed if they believe it will work in anyway more than a placebo way.

I don't wish to rile you but you must admit I do have at least a couple of valid points.

I'm off out soon my boy put a DVD on.....would you believe it "The Nutty Professor". Can't stand that movie!

[MyNameIsTerry]

Debs is talking in the context of anxiety. NOT life threatening illness. I don't believe Debs would condone chasing snake oils in a cancer case is right so I would leave that out of scope otherwise I guess we should start pulling in the various meds over the years that have been harmful yet were approved & licensed? We could also then be talking about the dubious drug trials too and maybe doctors pushing cheap SSRI's making a profit on the national prescription charge that the NHS don't tell us about or maybe just that these cheap meds are peddled because they are cheap even when they may know they won't be the correct solution? Or maybe GP's a nd their sometimes dangerous use of Diazepam or blatant lies over drugs like Pregabalin? Such a wide debate would probably open up such points. So, stick to the anxiety context I would say.

Science moves forward as you say. But unless the studies have proven there is no effect with the correct controls to test them (it's not sufficient to test purely to see if they work) and I haven't read the review or the studies so I wouldn't know.

[Frayed Medic!]

Hi Terry,

I agree with your points. Although I did mention in an earlier post that there have been many mistakes in the past. Mega profits in the pharmaceutical trade illicit bias, fraud and down right criminal behaviour. I believe things are improving though due to the strict phased control studies that now appear the norm.
Although we have to remember just because a drug proves devasting in its adverse effects, Thalidomide is one example, which caused many thousands of awful birth defects in the 1960s. I may be mistaken but I believe it was used as a sleep aid and antiemetic for pregnant mothers. Obviously due to the terrible disabilities and distress it caused it was withdrawn from use for that particular patient group......but this drug is still in use today for patients suffering Leprosy and to treat specific cancers.
But I still can't agree with a supplement which only effect is placebo (and yes, I realise that still helps some people). There is no proven method/mechanism of action, non-existent Pharmokinetic abilities proven and not a single respected peer reviewed research study that proves any benefits apart from the placebo effect. I think it's irresponsible for certain UK established Chemists/Pharmacies to sell this vastly overpriced ethonol water combo as a complementary medicine.
Jeez, even the Royal veterinary Association advise people not to give it to their pets! Which many do.
I think certain people like the feeling of control/empowerment as they do truly believe it works similar to a medicine and not just "expensive hope" in a bottle!

Anyway, enough of this, I must try and get some sleep. 3rd night of absolute insomnia!

Night peeps.

[Emsxo]

I find the rescue remedy very good at times of stress x

[Bigboyuk]

Never tried it but do have a bottle in for would you believe my dog yes that's right my dog :) There are no side effects either in dogs or us humans except that in toy breeds of dogs it can make them a tad tipsy LOL but that does wear off. and apprently it's more potent with water! And does really help my dog with firewroks and thunder and lightening too :)There's quite a few different Rescue Remedys to choose from and some are alchol free too :) Holland and Barrat sell the range of this product!!

[.Poppy.]

Never tried it but do have a bottle in for would you believe my dog yes that's right my dog :) There are no side effects either in dogs or us humans except that in toy breeds of dogs it can make them a tad tipsy LOL but that does wear off. and apprently it's more potent with water! And does really help my dog with firewroks and thunder and lightening too :)There's quite a few different Rescue Remedys to choose from and some are alchol free too :) Holland and Barrat sell the range of this product!!

I've only heard of rescue remedy in relation to dogs; interesting that people take it too.

My dog is on trazodone, prozac, and zylkene. His anxiety is pretty intense. :)

[Bigboyuk]

I've only heard of rescue remedy in relation to dogs; interesting that people take it too.

My dog is on trazodone, prozac, and zylkene. His anxiety is pretty intense. :) Actually Poppy it the other way around it's meant for us!! But dogs can safely use it and have great succes too :) I have even heard it can be used on anxious horses too!!! Your poor dog what his name and breed?!! what a cocktail of drugs he has one would think many possible side effects in relation to all those drugs :eek: Did you know it's more potent from his water bowl?!! So when Nipper my dog needs Rescue Remedy 5/6 drops in her water
and she is dead calm:) have you just tried RR in your dogs water bowl Who prescribed the drugs for your dog your vet?? To me it doesn't sound right.

[Sincerelyali]

Love it. Carry it around with me everyday in my purse.