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Devyn
27-11-16, 19:28
I was outside, bending a little bit to get a hose from the ground, when 3 heart palpitations happened in a row :/ i haven't had them in a row .. why are they getting worse? I wasn't thinking about them, wasn't even anxious and they just happened. can heart palpitations be triggered through certain positions? if so, is that not anxiety? I'm so scared right now...

KeeKee
27-11-16, 19:35
I'm quite confident palpitations can be triggered with certain situations as I recall getting them when leaning over the sink, I also notice them when walking uphill. I know it's hard, but the more stressed/anxious you feel, the more palpitations you will probably get.

Devyn
27-11-16, 19:40
I should also mention i'm on hydroxyzine for anxiety. is heart palpitations a side effect of this medication? having 3 in a row is a nightmare for someone who has bad heart anxiety like myself... i remember reading everywhere that 3 in a row is dangerous :/ and it was ONLY 3 in a row.. i wanna know if i should go to the ER or not :(

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I'm quite confident palpitations can be triggered with certain situations as I recall getting them when leaning over the sink, I also notice them when walking uphill. I know it's hard, but the more stressed/anxious you feel, the more palpitations you will probably get.

i wasn't stressed or anxious when it happened though :/ which keeps leading me to believe it's not anxiety triggered... :wacko:

KeeKee
27-11-16, 19:44
You don't need to be stressed or anxious in the moment. If you have really bad anxiety, chances are your body is highly stressed regardless of whether you feel it at any given time.

I've had 3 palps in a row and used to have extreme heart health anxiety (it's how my HA began). They are horrid, there's no denying that, but they are also highly common in stressed/anxious people

Devyn
27-11-16, 20:00
You don't need to be stressed or anxious in the moment. If you have really bad anxiety, chances are your body is highly stressed regardless of whether you feel it at any given time.

I've had 3 palps in a row and used to have extreme heart health anxiety (it's how my HA began). They are horrid, there's no denying that, but they are also highly common in stressed/anxious people

Hopefully its the start of recovering :/ that's terrifying to have.... but i'm still here and alive. so I don't think they were dangerous or else i would have known :D

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Update: Just had another palpitation. one i've never felt before. this one was just 1 hard extra early beat that felt like almost a burning sensation in the middle of my chest. this is super scary. i wonder if the medicine is causing them :(

axolotl
27-11-16, 20:31
I literally have palpitations right now, because I'm a bit stressed out and have had caffeine and alcohol during the day which hasn't helped. They're part and parcel of anxiety, and the more you worry about them the worse you'll be, it's the vicious circle of health anxiety.

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By the way, my first bout of full anxiety where I ended up in A&E with heart fears was at a time when I couldn't have really told you what I was anxious about. That's why it was so scary, and why it spiralled out of control. Sometimes you know what you're stressed about, other times it just happens.

Devyn
27-11-16, 20:33
I literally have palpitations right now, because I'm a bit stressed out and have had caffeine and alcohol during the day which hasn't helped. They're part and parcel of anxiety, and the more you worry about them the worse you'll be, it's the vicious circle of health anxiety.

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By the way, my first bout of full anxiety where I ended up in A&E with heart fears was at a time when I couldn't have really told you what I was anxious about. That's why it was so scary, and why it spiralled out of control. Sometimes you know what you're stressed about, other times it just happens.

I'm starting to believe its not anxiety but an electrolyte imbalance. Not everything can be explained with anxiety. I don't experience rapid heart rate very often (The most common kind of palpitation from anxiety sufferers). my heart rate is fine, it's the "Thudding" and "Fluttering" that is bothering me.

Gary A
27-11-16, 21:07
I'm starting to believe its not anxiety but an electrolyte imbalance. Not everything can be explained with anxiety. I don't experience rapid heart rate very often (The most common kind of palpitation from anxiety sufferers). my heart rate is fine, it's the "Thudding" and "Fluttering" that is bothering me.

Random rushes of adrenaline cause these types of palpitations. When you're anxious, your body is on red alert and often releases excess adrenaline at random intervals, this of course will cause a sudden rapid heart beat which feels like a "thud" or "flutter".

Anxiety causes all manner of physical symptoms, don't underestimate just how powerful anxiety can really be.

Devyn
27-11-16, 21:30
Random rushes of adrenaline cause these types of palpitations. When you're anxious, your body is on red alert and often releases excess adrenaline at random intervals, this of course will cause a sudden rapid heart beat which feels like a "thud" or "flutter".

Anxiety causes all manner of physical symptoms, don't underestimate just how powerful anxiety can really be.

I know what an Adrenalin rush feels like, and i don't get those unless im about to have a panic attack, i still get heart palpitations even if i don't get an adrenalin rush.

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My palps feel like it beats... then a "fluttery" or jiggly feeling, then a thump. today ive been getting them in "Runs" for the first time. went to the store for multi-vitamin/bananas/vegetable juice to see if its an electrolyte imbalance. not sure what to do if that doesn't work.. i truly believe i am dying :/

KeeKee
27-11-16, 21:32
I agree not everything can be put down to anxiety, but that doesn't mean to say it isn't that. Or even that it isn't just part of being human. I have relatives who have no mental health issues and they get the odd palpitation.

Mine have felt as you describe, thuds and flutters. I still get them, I just try to ignore them.

Devyn
27-11-16, 21:33
I agree not everything can be put down to anxiety, but that doesn't mean to say it isn't that. Or even that it isn't just part of being human. I have relatives who have no mental health issues and they get the odd palpitation.

Mine have felt as you describe, thuds and flutters. I still get them, I just try to ignore them.

My anxiety recently has been better than it was before, yet my palpitations are getting worse.... how is that anxiety induced? :/

KeeKee
27-11-16, 21:42
My anxiety recently has been better than it was before, yet my palpitations are getting worse.... how is that anxiety induced? :/

Been there, done that Devyn.

My anxiety has been massively better this year than the 2 years prior. Doesn't mean I don't still get symptoms. Once your body has been in an anxious state it's pretty hard to come out of it.

Plus as I've already said, even people without mental health problems can get palpitations but it doesn't mean there's something wrong with them.

Fishmanpa
27-11-16, 21:45
Anxiety is like a campfire. When you're in the midst of a spiral, the fire is burning hot and bright. The spiral may wane but the burning hot coals of anxiety are still there, waiting for anything to start burning hot again.

So.. you doing better and get a perfectly normal heart palp like everyone does and BAM!... More wood for the fire and the flames start burning hot again. You're hyper-focused on the sensation, thus spiking your anxiety and fanning the flames causing more palps.

But, if you're that concerned, see your doctor.

Positive thoughts

Devyn
27-11-16, 21:45
Been there, done that Devyn.

My anxiety has been massively better this year than the 2 years prior. Doesn't mean I don't still get symptoms. Once your body has been in an anxious state it's pretty hard to come out of it.

Plus as I've already said, even people without mental health problems can get palpitations but it doesn't mean there's something wrong with them.

Isn't it true that having them 3+ in a row isn't normal though? can't it be dangerous? i read somewhere about that. something like 3 in a row or 6 in less than a minute is dangerous.

KeeKee
27-11-16, 21:54
Isn't it true that having them 3+ in a row isn't normal though? can't it be dangerous? i read somewhere about that. something like 3 in a row or 6 in less than a minute is dangerous.

I don't believe that, I've had multiple palps myself and trust they're harmless (although admittedly it took a long time to believe it).

As Fishmanpa said, if you're that worried see your gp, but what you are describing is the same as what many others before you have also had.

Devyn
27-11-16, 21:57
I don't believe that, I've had multiple palps myself and trust they're harmless (although admittedly it took a long time to believe it).

As Fishmanpa said, if you're that worried see your gp, but what you are describing is the same as what many others before you have also had.

Yeah :/ i guess just since i've never felt this i automatically think of the worse. i've had heart palpitations for over 5 years... If something was really wrong, i would know about it by now, wouldn't i?

Fishmanpa
27-11-16, 21:58
Yeah :/ i guess just since i've never felt this i automatically think of the worse. i've had heart palpitations for over 5 years... If something was really wrong, i would know about it by now, wouldn't i?

Wouldn't you? ;)

Positive thoughts

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:01
Wouldn't you? ;)

Positive thoughts

I took a multi-vitamin that included magnesium in it, picked up vegetable juice with lots of vitamins + got bananas for potassium. haven't had a palp in about 30 minutes. will update if i dont have anymore today. then i know its an electrolyte imbalance. fingers crossed.

KeeKee
27-11-16, 22:02
Yes you would. I got palpitations even before my anxiety started. I remember lying in bed and getting them and they didn't bother me to any degree, yet once I'd developed health anxiety I absolutely couldn't stand them, I felt like I was on deaths door.

I know it's hard to believe, but the less you worry about them the less you get them, or at the very least the less you notice them.

I still get them almost daily, but not constantly like I once did. They will calm done you've just got to try and accept them. If you get easily affected by the likes of caffeine then things like that can increase them too.

KatiePink
27-11-16, 22:05
Yes you would. I got palpitations even before my anxiety started. I remember lying in bed and getting them and they didn't bother me to any degree, yet once I'd developed health anxiety I absolutely couldn't stand them, I felt like I was on deaths door.

I know it's hard to believe, but the less you worry about them the less you get them, or at the very least the less you notice them.

I still get them almost daily, but not constantly like I once did. They will calm done you've just got to try and accept them. If you get easily affected by the likes of caffeine then things like that can increase them too.

I get them quite often, atleast I think it's a palpitation, feels like a sudden thud or flutter, I react terribly which makes me feel all sorts because of anxiety.

I get them more at rest especially at night. I have terrible heart anxiety so they obviously make things difficult, but I'm still alive and kicking so whatever it is surely can't be dangerous

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:05
Yes you would. I got palpitations even before my anxiety started. I remember lying in bed and getting them and they didn't bother me to any degree, yet once I'd developed health anxiety I absolutely couldn't stand them, I felt like I was on deaths door.

I know it's hard to believe, but the less you worry about them the less you get them, or at the very least the less you notice them.

I still get them almost daily, but not constantly like I once did. They will calm done you've just got to try and accept them. If you get easily affected by the likes of caffeine then things like that can increase them too.

Yeah i'm honestly not sure what caused them to be in a row like today... maybe the anxiety meds (Hydroxyzine) which is apparently known for causing heart palpitations. 30+ minutes after taking the vitamins and other nutrients and haven't had another one. i really hope that's what it is, is a simple magnesium/vitamin b-12 deficiency . i don't eat like i should, and that could very well be it. I need to start taking care of every single nutrient I need.

KeeKee
27-11-16, 22:10
I get them quite often, atleast I think it's a palpitation, feels like a sudden thud or flutter, I react terribly which makes me feel all sorts because of anxiety.

I get them more at rest especially at night. I have terrible heart anxiety so they obviously make things difficult, but I'm still alive and kicking so whatever it is surely can't be dangerous

Yes that's what I'd call a palpitation. I get them when I'm starting to walk uphill sometimes which my mind starts trying to twist but I just have to ignore it. I've already seen the GP about it when my HA first started and I trust him deeply.

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:13
Yes that's what I'd call a palpitation. I get them when I'm starting to walk uphill sometimes which my mind starts trying to twist but I just have to ignore it. I've already seen the GP about it when my HA first started and I trust him deeply.

I guess why it's hard for me to get over is because my GP + Emergency Room staff haven't caught a single palpitation of mine. I remember being hooked up to an EKG when i first went to the ER multiple years ago. I had a palpitation and the EKG didn't pick it up. at that point the doctor said it was all in my head. but its not nothing, its physically there, i can feel it, so why can't they pick it up? Maybe i should just go to a cardiologist and get placed on a 24 hour holster or something.

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Update: Just had a single heart palpitation. dont think its nutrients (or maybe my body hasn't absorbed them yet) i'm gonna start keeping notes on when they happen and what i'm doing when they happen

KeeKee
27-11-16, 22:15
I guess why it's hard for me to get over is because my GP + Emergency Room staff haven't caught a single palpitation of mine. I remember being hooked up to an EKG when i first went to the ER multiple years ago. I had a palpitation and the EKG didn't pick it up. at that point the doctor said it was all in my head. but its not nothing, its physically there, i can feel it, so why can't they pick it up? Maybe i should just go to a cardiologist and get placed on a 24 hour holster or something.

I also had an ECG when I first had my panic attacks and my palpitations weren't picked up. They know the difference between common and dangerous issues (although I don't think it's fair them saying it's all in your head, especially as palpitations are quite common). If everybody who had palpitations got a holter monitor we'd all be walking around with them.

Fishmanpa
27-11-16, 22:15
i'm gonna start keeping notes on when they happen and what i'm doing when they happen

Just a suggestion.... Taking notes will keep this in the forefront of your mind, hyper-focused on them, increase your anxiety and be more detrimental in the long run. Perhaps ignoring something that you've had for 5 years would be more prudent. Distract yourself, find something to take you mind off of this for a while.

Positive thooughts

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:17
I also had an ECG when I first had my panic attacks and my palpitations weren't picked up. They know the difference between common and dangerous issues (although I don't think it's fair them saying it's all in your head, especially as palpitations are quite common). If everybody who had palpitations got a holter monitor we'd all be walking around with them.

Yeah maybe it was an ECG instead of an EKG, idk it was a long time ago. That's what im scared of, what if it looks common but isn't :/ i'm so scared that my palpitations aren't normal somehow.. and that i'm going to die soon. i literally had the thought in my head today that i'm going to die soon. it's an awful feeling..

KeeKee
27-11-16, 22:17
EKG is right we just call them ECG in the UK

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:18
Ohhh I understand now. How can palps NOT be picked up though? that's so weird. doesn't the ECG/EKG read every single beat?

KeeKee
27-11-16, 22:19
I know it is Devyn I've been there. But that's the thing about Health Anxiety. It plays on your mind and has the potential to completely ruin your life. You have to learn to trust the professionals or you'll just be going round in circles.

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I'd say either you weren't getting a palpitation at the time, or what you think is a palpitation isn't a true palpitation.

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:21
I know it is Devyn I've been there. But that's the thing about Health Anxiety. It plays on your mind and has the potential to completely ruin your life. You have to learn to trust the professionals or you'll just be going round in circles.

I dont have the money or insurance to go to the doctor til the 1st of the year so i'm stuck hoping it's nothing serious, working myself up. and it's the worst feeling ever. to not even be able to go to the ER or doctor if you want... this is so awful.

KatiePink
27-11-16, 22:21
I was given a portable heart monitor as a teenager where I could send my readings through the phone to the hospital. They said it was all fine even though it felt like a heart attack to me.

So mine has been happening for over 10 years, apart from sinus arrhythmia I've been told that my heart appears to be healthy and functioning just fine. Once you have heart anxiety its one of the hardest things to beat, that's why I still have trouble with it more than anything else.

Devyn
27-11-16, 22:23
if it isn't a palpitation, what else could it be? it feels like its coming directly from my heart.

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I was given a portable heart monitor as a teenager where I could send my readings through the phone to the hospital. They said it was all fine even though it felt like a heart attack to me.

So mine has been happening for over 10 years, apart from sinus arrhythmia I've been told that my heart appears to be healthy and functioning just fine. Once you have heart anxiety its one of the hardest things to beat, that's why I still have trouble with it more than anything else.

I need one of those tbh lol. I think that'd really ease my mind if i was able to send the signals to a hospital and them tell me if its normal or not. although i'd be clicking it all day lol

KatiePink
27-11-16, 22:27
if it isn't a palpitation, what else could it be? it feels like its coming directly from my heart.

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I need one of those tbh lol. I think that'd really ease my mind if i was able to send the signals to a hospital and them tell me if its normal or not. although i'd be clicking it all day lol

I just liked it because I was allowed to step out of classes to use it - winner!

Devyn
28-11-16, 01:55
Unfortunately no insurance and i'm not paying thousands of $ to see a specialist (Thanks America) . I can't do anything until the first of the month cause thats when my insurance kicks in. I have to live for another almost 2 months in hell.. trapped in my own mind.

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I wonder if there is anything that can mimic heart palps but isn't.. I also have acid reflux/GERD and heard that this can feel exactly like heart palps.. that would explain why a palp wasn't picked up by an EKG. I think the true answer will be seeing if i can feel it in my pulse. if i can't, then it can't be my heart, and it has to be something else mimicking my heart that's somewhere right near it...

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Update: Haven't had 1 palp in almost 2 hours... it's clearly something nutritional and not anxiety. maybe a part of it is, but it's starting to lean towards electrolyte imbalance. Had Blueberries, Pomegranate, 2 bananas and a multi vitamin (Contains b12, vitamin A, C + D, Magnesium, Iron) so something in that category i'm missing. they stopped 30+ minutes after i ate. I should also note that recently my stools have been tan (Which is a sign that your body isn't extracting proper nutrients), and i've had bowel troubles for over 5 years now. Hopefully I don't get another palpitation, knock on wood. Will update if I receive another one. Otherwise I truly believe it's am imbalance of some kind.

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Just had a heart palpitation but was much lighter than ive been experiencing today and it was only 1. Not "running" which is good. will continue to post on here to see whats been helping me or not. hopefully it will help someone else in the same situation.

axolotl
28-11-16, 08:45
Haven't had 1 palp in almost 2 hours... it's clearly something nutritional and not anxiety.

With respect I'm really confused as to how you came to that conclusion. The way you describe your palpitations are identical to mine, and mine can be one offs, or last for hours. Sometimes I can pinpoint where the anxiety's coming from, sometimes I can't. When I was scared of them they spiralled out of control, now I know they're not something to worry about they run their course and go. If you're focusing on every "skip" you'll make it worse.

I had a raft of test to check these out and, while things like caffeine and alcohol can exacerbate them, nutrition was never mentioned. Doesn't mean it's not the case for you, but you do seem very confident in diagnosing yourself based on a layman's understanding of medical websites.

swajj
28-11-16, 09:12
Random rushes of adrenaline cause these types of palpitations. When you're anxious, your body is on red alert and often releases excess adrenaline at random intervals, this of course will cause a sudden rapid heart beat which feels like a "thud" or "flutter".

Anxiety causes all manner of physical symptoms, don't underestimate just how powerful anxiety can really be.

This happened to me. I honestly felt like my heart was fluttering/jumping all day. It lasted for a very long time. I posted about it here before. The odd thing was that during this time I had a urinary tract infection which I was sure was something more serious. While I was waiting for the results of tests I never felt a single flutter. As soon as I found out that it really was just a UTI the fluttering returned. It lasted for months and was constant day and night. It was one of the reasons I went back to the psychiatrist after being anxiety free for more than 10 years. I think you are right about it being caused by adrenaline.