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whoevenami
28-12-16, 16:12
Hi forum, me again...
I'll just say beforehand that I'd really like to thank everyone for the advice and encouragement on my last couple posts, it really helps. However I'm experiencing more trouble with everything.
So I'm on holiday currently in sestriere, Italy, and I'm having serious association problems (I guess you could call it that). What I mean by this, is that images im seeing whilst I'm here are linking back to the images I saw online a while ago (read my first thread if you want to know what it was). For exampl, I saw a girl in a sled today, and she was holding a teddy bear. At first I was alright, and I thought "aw, I can't wait to have kids when I'm older". This quickly changed however, because as soon as I said that, an image with a cartoon girl (very young) popped into my head, which was of course innapropriate as per, and I couldn't get rid of it, causing me to start saying "get out, get out", or "go away". I only said this because I didn't feel any groinal response, or any anxiety (which scared me), however I did know that it was wrong, and I also obviously don't want these thoughts to be there, they really stress me out.
The reason I noted that the girl was holding the teddy bear was that because in the image of the cartoon girl, there was a teddy bear in the background (I remember because that's possibly what triggered the image), therefore giving reason for me to call it 'association problems'. My parents have booked counselling for my issue, and have gone as far to say that I possibly have PTSD about the images, and that I'm reacting like this because I couldn't deal with the images. I am not currently taking that 'diagnosis' as a set stone idea, as I seriously believe it's POCD, or moreover want to believe that.
I sound so stupid, also sorry for bringing up my problems again everyone, but thanks for listening, have a good day.
Hi W,
Sorry you're getting bad thoughts while on holiday. I can relate to the incident you described. The type of anxiety I get is health related and sometimes it is triggered just by having positive thoughts, for example I could think: 'I'm going to really enjoy next summer' then I get a thought like 'You might not be alive next summer'. I'm told what you should do is just observe the bad thought when it occurs and don't engage with it by having further dialogue with it. But this is easier said than done!
Dave
whoevenami
28-12-16, 19:25
Hi W,
Sorry you're getting bad thoughts while on holiday. I can relate to the incident you described. The type of anxiety I get is health related and sometimes it is triggered just by having positive thoughts, for example I could think: 'I'm going to really enjoy next summer' then I get a thought like 'You might not be alive next summer'. I'm told what you should do is just observe the bad thought when it occurs and don't engage with it by having further dialogue with it. But this is easier said than done!
Dave
Dave,
I hear you man, that's exactly what I'm thinking. It's like "I'm gunna start enjoying myself now", but then as soon as I start to get happy, as voice says "there's no undoing what you've done, you disgrace", and I get really upset and feel so anxious. It's horrible... I'll try to observe though, fingers crossed it'll work eventually, thank you :)
Hey m8 by telling these intrusive thoughts to go away,, just like those nuisance calls trying to sell you stuff you ain't interested in them I then have no further conversation and hang up the phone!!You are doing the right thing and the fact you didn't get a gronial response is a good thing so well done you :) And please don't ever think you are stupid, cause you aren't you are smart and intelligent guy ok now go and enjoy your holiday m8 ands try the local pizza's :cool:
whoevenami
28-12-16, 19:51
Hey m8 by telling these intrusive thoughts to go away,, just like those nuisance calls trying to sell you stuff you ain't interested in them I then have no further conversation and hang up the phone!!You are doing the right thing and the fact you didn't get a gronial response is a good thing so well done you :) And please don't ever think you are stupid, cause you aren't you are smart and intelligent guy ok now go and enjoy your holiday m8 ands try the local pizza's :cool:
On it man! The pizza's are huge no joke! Thanks a lot though, hopefully this'll sort out
On it man! The pizza's are huge no joke! Thanks a lot though, hopefully this'll sort out Sounds really cool m8 enjoy and you are welcome :yesyes:
As I've said, try not to react to the bad thoughts in any way but just acknowledge them and observe them. But it is very difficult!!! :) I expect the therapy you are going to have will fix your problem. There is one other thing though...
In my case, I believe my health anxiety occurs because I'm lonely and therefore insecure. I think that's the underlying cause. So coming back to you, I think it may be worthwhile looking with the therapist to see if you can find an underlying cause and treat that. This is just a hypothetical example of such a cause: you feel guilty being assertive. Then you would be working on both ends of the problem: addressing the cause and addressing the symptoms.
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Good analogy Bigboy - don't get into a discussion with the cold caller.
As I've said, try not to react to the bad thoughts in any way but just acknowledge them and observe them. But it is very difficult!!! :) I expect the therapy you are going to have will fix your problem. There is one other thing though...
In my case, I believe my health anxiety occurs because I'm lonely and therefore insecure. I think that's the underlying cause. So coming back to you, I think it may be worthwhile looking with the therapist to see if you can find an underlying cause and treat that. This is just a hypothetical example of such a cause: you feel guilty being assertive. Then you would be working on both ends of the problem: addressing the cause and addressing the symptoms.
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Good analogy Bigboy - don't get into a discussion with the cold caller. Hmm if I may say you say observe the thought ok but I would also add dont dwell on it and dont let it fester send it packing just like a cold unwanted caller i do this every single time as soon as I have found out the nature of the call that's it game over and phone is down :) and cheers for that Dave! appreciated
whoevenami
28-12-16, 20:26
As I've said, try not to react to the bad thoughts in any way but just acknowledge them and observe them. But it is very difficult!!! :) I expect the therapy you are going to have will fix your problem. There is one other thing though...
In my case, I believe my health anxiety occurs because I'm lonely and therefore insecure. I think that's the underlying cause. So coming back to you, I think it may be worthwhile looking with the therapist to see if you can find an underlying cause and treat that. This is just a hypothetical example of such a cause: you feel guilty being assertive. Then you would be working on both ends of the problem: addressing the cause and addressing the symptoms.
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Good analogy Bigboy - don't get into a discussion with the cold caller.
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile? I really hope that isn't it. I know I hate the thoughts but I've been told by many people that I'm associating reality with things I've seen online (I guess you could say they've scarred e in a way because I'm really not okay now because of it). If that is the case, then I guess that I'd have to trace all the way back 3 years and why I would search pr find these kinds of images, which would be really hard for a therapist. I'm such a lost cause man, thanks a lot though.
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Hmm if I may say you say observe the thought ok but I would also add dont dwell on it and dont let it fester send it packing just like a cold unwanted caller i do this every single time as soon as I have found out the nature of the call that's it game over and phone is down :) and cheers for that Dave! appreciated
Yep, will make sure I do that, hopefully I can!
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile? I really hope that isn't it. I know I hate the thoughts but I've been told by many people that I'm associating reality with things I've seen online (I guess you could say they've scarred e in a way because I'm really not okay now because of it). If that is the case, then I guess that I'd have to trace all the way back 3 years and why I would search pr find these kinds of images, which would be really hard for a therapist. I'm such a lost cause man, thanks a lot though.
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Yep, will make sure I do that, hopefully I can!No,No and No but you may have to trace the last 3 years with the therapist it will be hard but you may be asked! These many people that have told you etc etc they aren't trained to help So get it out of your head ok and concern your self in getting better ok m8!! No you aint a lost cause you have come off the rails slighty now get back on track for your own health my friend!!
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Ok another good way of putting it I have dog which I do you have to stay consistant in the training its no use just once or twice and it can be very repetitive too so in other words and don't doubt your self saying hopefully I can do it you can do it So as soon as 1 of those intrusive thoughts comes in to your head train you mind to not accept them do this every time and you with counselling etc will get through this :)
MyNameIsTerry
28-12-16, 23:29
Hey m8 by telling these intrusive thoughts to go away,, just like those nuisance calls trying to sell you stuff you ain't interested in them I then have no further conversation and hang up the phone!!You are doing the right thing and the fact you didn't get a gronial response is a good thing so well done you :) And please don't ever think you are stupid, cause you aren't you are smart and intelligent guy ok now go and enjoy your holiday m8 ands try the local pizza's :cool:
Afraid not, reacting with fear and demanding thoughts to go away is a compulsion. It will do the opposite and reinforce it all. It gives them a justification for existence to the subconscious.
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Hmm if I may say you say observe the thought ok but I would also add dont dwell on it and dont let it fester send it packing just like a cold unwanted caller i do this every single time as soon as I have found out the nature of the call that's it game over and phone is down :) and cheers for that Dave! appreciated
Dave is explaining how Mindfulness works with thoughts. Observation is about neutral reaction therefore the subconscious never receives that negative fear feedback that the Amygdala can only see in fear cycle.
Observation doesn't include any dwelling or any interaction, it teaches you to observe & let go.
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No,No and No but you may have to trace the last 3 years with the therapist it will be hard but you may be asked! These many people that have told you etc etc they aren't trained to help So get it out of your head ok and concern your self in getting better ok m8!! No you aint a lost cause you have come off the rails slighty now get back on track for your own health my friend!!
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Ok another good way of putting it I have dog which I do you have to stay consistant in the training its no use just once or twice and it can be very repetitive too so in other words and don't doubt your self saying hopefully I can do it you can do it So as soon as 1 of those intrusive thoughts comes in to your head train you mind to not accept them do this every time and you with counselling etc will get through this :)
Learning to accept them actually gets rid of them. They will even teach him things like this in therapy, especially if they take an acceptance approach.
Acceptance just means accepting that thoughts are thoughts, nothing more. The same as with acceptance of anxiety symptoms.
If you fight them, they will just get worse. But fighting them with a positive/neutral response can be achieved in methods like CBT.
[QUOTE=whoevenami;1628119]Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
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Hi W,
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
You would know! You know what your sexuality is at your age - you know who you find sexually attractive. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a paedophile. It's wrong to act out paedophilia yes, but I'm a lonely old hetero and obviously I don't assault or rape women - of course I don't!!
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Grr I can't get the quote tag to work:)
MyNameIsTerry
28-12-16, 23:46
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile? I really hope that isn't it. I know I hate the thoughts but I've been told by many people that I'm associating reality with things I've seen online (I guess you could say they've scarred e in a way because I'm really not okay now because of it). If that is the case, then I guess that I'd have to trace all the way back 3 years and why I would search pr find these kinds of images, which would be really hard for a therapist. I'm such a lost cause man, thanks a lot though.
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Yep, will make sure I do that, hopefully I can!
Remember what was said on the other threads about the difference between OCD and paedophilia?
The subconscious works by trying to spot possible associations and if it doesn't know what to do, it asks the conscious mind. It's not saying anything other than "should these two images be associated with all this data?". You react with fear, the subconscious says "great, conscious mind really thought that was important to react like that, I'll keep doing it". They will teach you this in therapy, it's a basic principle of how the mind works.
Paedophiles get intrusive thoughts too BUT not about paedophilia. Why? Because intrusive thoughts are unwanted & unpleasant thoughts. Why would a paedophile not like a thought about what is a fantasy that they wish to indulge in?
Information is crucial in forms of OCD like this because you need to understand the differences otherwise you are causing yourself more anxiety over what is not even factual.
You didn't look at child pornography years ago. Remember what we said on your first thread? You are analysing it with bias towards you being what you fear, that's very basic to anxiety disorders.
The recommended treatment for OCD is CBT. That won't analyse your past because it's not required to treat a current problem. They can work to change how you are viewing things.
If watching cartoon porn with young characters in was child pornography, it would be illegal! Remember my example of harm based OCD in a cartoon setting? Tom & Jerry have been trying to kill each other for how meant decades? That's for children. What about watching action or drama? Are we potential psychotic murderers? Nope, but someone with that form of OCD will make such associations due to biased thinking.
If you have PTSD you must be having flashbacks. This is integral to diagnosis. Are you?
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[QUOTE=whoevenami;1628119]Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
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Hi W,
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
You would know! You know what your sexuality is at your age - you know who you find sexually attractive. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a paedophile. It's wrong to act out paedophilia yes, but I'm a lonely old hetero and obviously I don't assault or rape women - of course I don't!!
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Grr I can't get the quote tag to work:)
:ohmy:
I think I have to disagree on that one. Can they keep it from coming out?
Afraid not, reacting with fear and demanding thoughts to go away is a compulsion. It will do the opposite and reinforce it all. It gives them a justification for existence to the subconscious.
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Dave is explaining how Mindfulness works with thoughts. Observation is about neutral reaction therefore the subconscious never receives that negative fear feedback that the Amygdala can only see in fear cycle.
Observation doesn't include any dwelling or any interaction, it teaches you to observe & let go.
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Learning to accept them actually gets rid of them. They will even teach him things like this in therapy, especially if they take an acceptance approach.
Acceptance just means accepting that thoughts are thoughts, nothing more. The same as with acceptance of anxiety symptoms.
If you fight them, they will just get worse. But fighting them with a positive/neutral response can be achieved in methods like CBT. I was trying to help but now feel helpless but respect you opinion and to me bad thoughts are never a good thing if you follow? Negativity is no good to me or any one and again just my opinion :)
MyNameIsTerry
29-12-16, 00:11
I was trying to help but now feel helpless but respect you opinion and to me bad thoughts are never a good thing if you follow? Negativity is no good to me or any one and again just my opinion :)
Yes, I know. They aren't a good thing certainly but challenging or accepting are the two ways that you tend to see. If you choose to see these kinds of thoughts as bad, you will disappear down the compulsive self questioning cycle.
Not sure what you mean about negativity being no good to you? I'm not being negative to you, just explaining what you would see being discussed on any OCD thread.
You have been giving him loads of support, that counts too.
[QUOTE=whoevenami;1628119]Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
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Hi W,
Could the underlying issue be that I'm a pedophile?
You would know! You know what your sexuality is at your age - you know who you find sexually attractive. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a paedophile. It's wrong to act out paedophilia yes, but I'm a lonely old hetero and obviously I don't assault or rape women - of course I don't!!
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Grr I can't get the quote tag to work:) Dave I am sorry but I disagree there is plenty wrong in being a paedophile as the thoughts and fantisies are there and even some one who thinks like that but doesn't actually act on these thoughts still needs professional help in my book :)
Again iam keeping this respectful for the sake of the OP as he needs help guidance etc
brucealmighty
29-12-16, 00:19
`Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a paedophile`
:doh:
yes there is, there`s everything wrong with being a paedophile. everything.
MyNameIsTerry
29-12-16, 00:42
This metaphor shows how the subconscious & conscious mind is operating in context of intrusive thoughts:
http://psychology.tools/intrusive-thoughts-brain-metaphor.html
This is the OCD cycle:
http://psychology.tools/cognitive-model-of-ocd.html
There is a similiar example on there. Work through it and see where your reaction fits in. That "no no no" is a common reaction (been there, done that) and fits into this cycle if you think about the emotion behind the words.
Trying to push thoughts away is something a therapist will tell you is counterproductive. Studies have shown that. So, "get out, get out", "go away", etc is something you will see in that metaphor.
I got rid of my intrusive thoughts twice. Now they flash though without any emotion, they get "meh", "whatever", "who cares", etc and the subconscious gets nothing negative back. Of course, you can't get rid of intrusive thoughts anyway since studies have shown everyone has them, it's the learnt fear response that you can change back so you don't care about them.
brucealmighty
29-12-16, 00:51
you can show as many flowcharts as you like which neatly explain your defence of people and their urges on here, but I`m afraid that someone posting `theres nothing wrong with being a paedophile` cannot be explained away
my `no no no` reaction which you glibly try to toss away is the reaction of anyone who thinks that finding children sexually attractive is wrong. it is wrong. and I truly couldn`t give a monkeys who says differently.
maybe you should have a closer look at why your defence mechanism springs into action over this? or go and get some help from your drop in centres.
paedophilia is wrong, end of. best of luck of trying to prove otherwise, and god forgive you if anyone on here ends up acting on their urges because of your ongoing defence.
MyNameIsTerry
29-12-16, 00:54
you can show as many flowcharts as you like which neatly explain your defence of people and their urges on here, but I`m afraid that someone posting `theres nothing wrong with being a paedophile` cannot be explained away
my `no no no` reaction which you glibly try to toss away is the reaction of anyone who thinks that finding children sexually attractive is wrong. it is wrong. and I truly couldn`t give a monkeys who says differently.
maybe you should have a closer look at why your defence mechanism springs into action over this? or go and get some help from your drop in centres.
paedophilia is wrong, end of. best of luck of trying to prove otherwise, and god forgive you if anyone on here ends up acting on their urges because of your ongoing defence.
The charts were for the OP and Bigboyuk.
I wasn't responding to you.
And the "no no no" was said by Bigboyuk, not you, as well as other variations by the OP.
I'm not interested in whatever your game is. I'm not biting but I'll explain the above as you are mistaken. The rest, ignorance is irrelevant to me.
brucealmighty
29-12-16, 01:11
my game? in not defending people who find children sexually attractive?
thats not a game lad, that`s just how it is.
anyway, keep defending the indefensible by all means. if you want to pretend paedophiles have just got a touch of ocd and everyone else is wrong then please carry on.
have you ever considered just for a second that maybe, just maybe, the people who say its all ok and its nothing to worry about may have one or two issues themselves? or do you blindly follow anything pushed out by the people who fit your agenda?
don`t snap at me, don`t react wildly, have a think for once - the people who say its fine to find children sexually attractive may have problems themselves. people in some form of authority aren`t always right.
you can show as many flowcharts as you like which neatly explain your defence of people and their urges on here, but I`m afraid that someone posting `theres nothing wrong with being a paedophile` cannot be explained away
my `no no no` reaction which you glibly try to toss away is the reaction of anyone who thinks that finding children sexually attractive is wrong. it is wrong. and I truly couldn`t give a monkeys who says differently.
maybe you should have a closer look at why your defence mechanism springs into action over this? or go and get some help from your drop in centres.
paedophilia is wrong, end of. best of luck of trying to prove otherwise, and god forgive you if anyone on here ends up acting on their urges because of your ongoing defence.
Sorry to butt in here but no one apart from Dave said that it was wrong.
I'm guessing that you don't know a huge amount about the nature of OCD and intrusive thoughts from what you say, but you need to be careful about what you write on this thread because I think you are really misunderstanding the discussion that's going on between the other posters (excluding Dave) here.
Guys please stop!!! this is not helping the OP so out of respect for him :) I know the mods are watching this thread, we all know that just hope they keep it open its only just been re opened a while back Cheers
MyNameIsTerry
29-12-16, 23:42
Guys please stop!!! this is not helping the OP so out of respect for him :) I know the mods are watching this thread, we all know that just hope they keep it open its only just been re opened a while back Cheers
No, sparks is right.
I'll await Admin decisions on both threads but I find some of this offensive. I've seen someone chased off here over this issue in the past and I don't want to see it again. The other thread reveals more about how some feel about this yet Admin allow discussion of this subject and that should be respected. Until they intervene, how will this go away?
Guys please stop!!! this is not helping the OP so out of respect for him :) I know the mods are watching this thread, we all know that just hope they keep it open its only just been re opened a while back Cheers
Personally, I think the thread should be locked or deleted. The negativity in many aspects is not warranted.
Positive thoughts
[QUOTE=MyNameIsTerry;1628596]No, sparks is right.
I'll await Admin decisions on both threads but I find some of this offensive. I've seen someone chased off here over this issue in the past and I don't want to see it again. The other thread reveals more about how some feel about this yet Admin allow discussion of this subject and that should be respected. Until they intervene, how will this go away?[/QUOTE I do Terry why do you think
I was trying again to calm it down glad you aren't biting though any way its a new day tomorrow Cheers
MyNameIsTerry
30-12-16, 00:05
[QUOTE=MyNameIsTerry;1628596]No, sparks is right.
I'll await Admin decisions on both threads but I find some of this offensive. I've seen someone chased off here over this issue in the past and I don't want to see it again. The other thread reveals more about how some feel about this yet Admin allow discussion of this subject and that should be respected. Until they intervene, how will this go away?[/QUOTE I do Terry why do you think
I was trying again to calm it down glad you aren't biting though any way its a new day tomorrow Cheers
I'm with you on that! It's commendable to try. If people want to discuss the issue, perhaps the other thread is a better place so as not to involve the OP?
We should all be having fun this week!
I apologise to everyone for my insensitive post. I hope Whoevenami gets the point I was trying to make about the difference between thoughts and actions.
Dave
MyNameIsTerry
30-12-16, 04:31
I apologise to everyone for my insensitive post. I hope Whoevenami gets the point I was trying to make about the difference between thoughts and actions.
Dave
I think I understand what you are trying to say about that but we also need to remember there is a big difference between neurotic and impulse disorders. I expect you were attempting to say that it's rare that action is taken on intrusive thoughts, which is the medical view, to reassure him.
Also, that no action means no crime. I doubt paedophiles can keep themselves from offending but I don't read that far into the condition. I know they use CBT for it amongst others but have no idea on the success rates and I don't think I want to.
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I think I understand what you are trying to say about that but we also need to remember there is a big difference between neurotic and impulse disorders. I expect you were attempting to say that it's rare that action is taken on intrusive thoughts, which is the medical view, to reassure him.
Also, that no action means no crime. I doubt paedophiles can keep themselves from offending but I don't read that far into the condition. I know they use CBT for it amongst others but have no idea on the success rates and I don't think I want to.
Dave, sorry I meant to say also that my earlier comment about finding certain things in this thread offensive was not aimed at you. Neither was it aimed at the OP who should not feel ashamed to talk about this.
I certainly have accepted Dave's1 apologies :) It's a very sensitive subject and especialy as the OP is still young themselves he acknowledges he has a problem so he gets respect from me for talking about it on a open forum that any one can see, that takes some courage in my book :) Cheers
whoevenami
30-12-16, 17:36
I'm sorry for always making controversial threads everyone, there's always some conflict on these and I don't want all you perfectly good people to be arguing over something I started. Sorry everyone, and sorry moderators who have to watch over my threads.
I'm sorry for always making controversial threads everyone, there's always some conflict on these and I don't want all you perfectly good people to be arguing over something I started. Sorry everyone, and sorry moderators who have to watch over my threads. Hey you have nothing to be sorry about m8 :) I think the mods watch over many threads and as for the arguing its part of forum life sometimes so no worries :) Cheers
MyNameIsTerry
30-12-16, 19:37
I'm sorry for always making controversial threads everyone, there's always some conflict on these and I don't want all you perfectly good people to be arguing over something I started. Sorry everyone, and sorry moderators who have to watch over my threads.
Don't worry, there were no objections to the hundreds (probably) threads before you.
What is happening is unfair on you.
whoevenami
30-12-16, 19:43
Don't worry, there were no objections to the hundreds (probably) threads before you.
What is happening is unfair on you.
Either way, you and many others are helping a lot, so thank you. And about the PTSD stuff and the flashbacks and everything, I'm not sure. I guess you could consider them flashbacks, as when I see the images (that I've seen in the past) I return (in my head) to my bedroom and feel really bad and guilty as I literally watch my past self look at the images. That's probably not PTSD but my parents are going for that approach.
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Hey you have nothing to be sorry about m8 :) I think the mods watch over many threads and as for the arguing its part of forum life sometimes so no worries :) Cheers
I guess, thanks a lot for the support man :)
I'm sorry for always making controversial threads everyone, there's always some conflict on these and I don't want all you perfectly good people to be arguing over something I started. Sorry everyone, and sorry moderators who have to watch over my threads.
Hi, there is no need to apologise. The problem on the threads is not to do with you but is more to do with the behaviour of others.
Whoevenami, what age are you? Am I right in thinking you're about 15/16?
If that's right I really don't think you're a paedophile. I think you're a confused teenager whose hormones are going crazy and you need support. You are not a bad person. In fact I think you're doing really well in talking through your problems.
MyNameIsTerry
31-12-16, 05:11
See what the therapist says. Imagery is part of intrusive thoughts, I had plenty of that in mine. But PTSD has to include flashbacks or its something else. Either way, that just means a different anxiety disorder.
OCD isn't diagnosed simply due to the traits, it's about the impact on your life since many non anxious people display OCD-like behaviour. It's more common in children and they grow out of it in many cases.
I'm just glad your parents are so measured about something that can be very disturbing to hear. They sound like great people.
whoevenami
31-12-16, 15:48
See what the therapist says. Imagery is part of intrusive thoughts, I had plenty of that in mine. But PTSD has to include flashbacks or its something else. Either way, that just means a different anxiety disorder.
OCD isn't diagnosed simply due to the traits, it's about the impact on your life since many non anxious people display OCD-like behaviour. It's more common in children and they grow out of it in many cases.
I'm just glad your parents are so measured about something that can be very disturbing to hear. They sound like great people.
They really are, I'm so grateful to have them. I feel bad that they have to deal with someone that has such disturbing thoughts and stuff, but they really seem to believe that there's nothing wrong with me and that I'm not a pedophile which is good to hear from them. Yeah I do doubt it's PTSD in all honesty, but we'll see what the therapist says anyway.
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Whoevenami, what age are you? Am I right in thinking you're about 15/16?
If that's right I really don't think you're a paedophile. I think you're a confused teenager whose hormones are going crazy and you need support. You are not a bad person. In fact I think you're doing really well in talking through your problems.
Indeed, spot on, I'm 16. You sound a lot like my parents to be honest haha :) they think hormones contribute to this. Thanks so much though, for thinking I'm a good person despite everything that's happening that is, it really means a lot as well as it does help. Thank you!
Haha. Probably because I'm a secondary school teacher so I see first hand the difficulties in growing up.
whoevenami
31-12-16, 17:43
Haha. Probably because I'm a secondary school teacher so I see first hand the difficulties in growing up.
Wow that's awesome! The problem with my thoughts is that I actually wanna be a teacher when I grow up and I just get scared that I might do something to the kids that I'm teaching which would be awful... Quick question, do you enjoy teaching?
Wow that's awesome! The problem with my thoughts is that I actually wanna be a teacher when I grow up and I just get scared that I might do something to the kids that I'm teaching which would be awful... Quick question, do you enjoy teaching? Hey mate while I understand your concerns, its quite a way off you are getting massive support on here and your parents are supporting you and you getting help when you get back off your holidays its a win win situation Cheers
whoevenami
01-01-17, 15:55
Hey mate while I understand your concerns, its quite a way off you are getting massive support on here and your parents are supporting you and you getting help when you get back off your holidays its a win win situation Cheers
Yeah, that's reassuring thank you, it's just the possibility that scares me.
Yeah, that's reassuring thank you, it's just the possibility that scares me. That's ok and the fact it scares you shows me you don't want anything to do with this bad stuff, And these concerns must be talked with your therapist/counsellor they are the best ones to help :) Stay cool mate you will beat it :) Cheers
whoevenami
01-01-17, 16:22
That's ok and the fact it scares you shows me you don't want anything to do with this bad stuff, And these concerns must be talked with your therapist/counsellor they are the best ones to help :) Stay cool mate you will beat it :) Cheers
Will make sure to bring it up! Thanks a lot man!
Will make sure to bring it up! Thanks a lot man! You are welcome :)
As per my previous post i'd look at contacting the lucy faithful foundation. Seek their advice.
I would also google a guy called David Finkelhor. He's done a lot of research on this.
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