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I've been on SSRI'S for 8 years - different kinds - I've now been on Sertraline for 2 years - and am now on the top dose.
However It doesn't even touch the sides with my anxiety, Propranolol now has no effect on me at all either.
My Private psychiatrists is quite frustrated with this and the NHS system, and has offered to write me a letter to my GP or for my GP to ring him, OR he is keen for me to see a private specialist Dr.
My psychiatrist thinks I should be a regular dose benzodiazepine - but I'm wondering what medication he was thinking of as most seem to be for short term only - and he thinks I should be on a long term med in this drug group!
Does anyone know which med he might be alluding too? he keeps talking about my brain make-up and 'Gabba' and that I need the right quality meds - he keeps alluding to the fact that It might be a kind of drug I can only get privately.
MyNameIsTerry
05-05-17, 04:19
I would suggest posting a thread on the Meds board as panic_down_under is very knowledge on meds and he mostly posts on there.
GP's will be wary with Benzo's since the NHS tells them they are for short term use only. Beyond this it's the territory of psychiatrists who GP's can access through referral to the Community Mental Health Team (CMHT).
If your psychiatrist wishes to add meds, why isn't he prescribing privately? Not all Benzo's are available through the NHS but that's the same with many drugs. Some may not be licensed to treat certain conditions even then but a psychiatrist can off label them.
GABA is the neurotransmitter that Benzo's work with.
I take 6 mg of lorazepam a day, have done for 30 years . they still work to a degree. but you will soon be addicted or tolerant. that first lorazepam is like your hole world goes calm . and your hooked for life . :chained:
I know that they're meant to be short-term for many, but I know of some people that take them daily because nothing else works for them. I'd suggest (and no, I am not a doctor, just a fellow sufferer) maybe trying another medication - there are newer ones out there on the market. I know Viibryd and Trintellix are newer overall, and I've been on both with some decent success. I am currently on Trintellix at 20mg every morning and it does the trick for the most part. I do have Klonopin for as needed, but I rarely need to take it; even if I do, I take a half of a smallest dosed tablet.
Other people find that Fish Oil helps them with their mental health ailments. You can learn a little bit more about Fish Oil on my blog at http://anxietypress.com/index.php/2017/04/11/supplement-fish-oil-good-for-mental-health-and-overall-health/ Just ensure you find a quality supplement, because many Fish Oil supplements you find at supermarkets and such lack adequate amounts of EHA and DPA.
I would suggest posting a thread on the Meds board as panic_down_under is very knowledge on meds and he mostly posts on there.
GP's will be wary with Benzo's since the NHS tells them they are for short term use only. Beyond this it's the territory of psychiatrists who GP's can access through referral to the Community Mental Health Team (CMHT).
If your psychiatrist wishes to add meds, why isn't he prescribing privately? Not all Benzo's are available through the NHS but that's the same with many drugs. Some may not be licensed to treat certain conditions even then but a psychiatrist can off label them.
GABA is the neurotransmitter that Benzo's work with.
i don't no of anyone scripted XANAX by a GP , Hospitals use lorazepam has a pre med, go to a-e with anxiety attack same again lorazepam, there are millions of us junkies to lorazepam,//////// detox take years if on the high dose, most given a day by NHS 10MG I dont want a painful detox give me the 10mg any day , even if you managed a detox you still have your anxiety disorder so you still need a BENZO
MyNameIsTerry
10-05-17, 01:00
i don't no of anyone scripted XANAX by a GP , Hospitals use lorazepam has a pre med, go to a-e with anxiety attack same again lorazepam, there are millions of us junkies to lorazepam,//////// detox take years if on the high dose, most given a day by NHS 10MG I dont want a painful detox give me the 10mg any day , even if you managed a detox you still have your anxiety disorder so you still need a BENZO
Xanax isn't licenced in the UK. But I do know of one former member on here, ricardo, who talked about his GP prescribing it. It was a private prescription though.
Xanax isn't licenced in the UK. But I do know of one former member on here, ricardo, who talked about his GP prescribing it. It was a private prescription though.
YOU ARE RIGHT XANAX is twice the strength of lorazepam and many rock stars and celeb use it to after a gig to chill , soon they are well addicted and a lot die of abuse . they usually find XANAX in their blood mix
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XANAX is the daddy of BENZO,S 1 tab of Xanax is the same has 20mg diazepam. 1 little tablet is powerful and highly addictive like all benzos, some say there for short time but if you find tolerance you can stay at a level of your choise . mine is 6 mg lorazepam without them i would never get through a med change or detox . the doctor dont move on the 6mg up or down the 6 are for life:shades:
MyNameIsTerry
11-05-17, 01:12
YOU ARE RIGHT XANAX is twice the strength of lorazepam and many rock stars and celeb use it to after a gig to chill , soon they are well addicted and a lot die of abuse . they usually find XANAX in their blood mix
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XANAX is the daddy of BENZO,S 1 tab of Xanax is the same has 20mg diazepam. 1 little tablet is powerful and highly addictive like all benzos, some say there for short time but if you find tolerance you can stay at a level of your choise . mine is 6 mg lorazepam without them i would never get through a med change or detox . the doctor dont move on the 6mg up or down the 6 are for life:shades:
It certainly seems to be powerful stuff when you look how low the doses are comparing to things like Diazepam. Some of the US and Aussie members on here use them.
I always struggle badly starting a med, Brian, so I can understand how you feel about it. It's a time when you've just got to do what you have to to get through it. If that means Benzo's, so be it. I've tried to stay away from them but gave in a couple of times at he worst of med side effects just o get a brief break.
I did get tolerant to Zopiclone, which my GP didn't manage properly as the crisis team later indicated, but with only being on about 5-6 weeks it wasn't going to be anywhere like the withdrawal of a long term user. Z drugs are even quicker than Benzo's for tolerance, which I didn't know back then.
All your meds changes must be hammering you? Sometimes I wonder whether it's best just to flush it all out and start again. GP's don't seem ti appreciate just how much they all can mess you up.
It certainly seems to be powerful stuff when you look how low the doses are comparing to things like Diazepam. Some of the US and Aussie members on here use them.
I always struggle badly starting a med, Brian, so I can understand how you feel about it. It's a time when you've just got to do what you have to to get through it. If that means Benzo's, so be it. I've tried to stay away from them but gave in a couple of times at he worst of med side effects just o get a brief break.
I did get tolerant to Zopiclone, which my GP didn't manage properly as the crisis team later indicated, but with only being on about 5-6 weeks it wasn't going to be anywhere like the withdrawal of a long term user. Z drugs are even quicker than Benzo's for tolerance, which I didn't know back then.
All your meds changes must be hammering you? Sometimes I wonder whether it's best just to flush it all out and start again. GP's don't seem ti appreciate just how much they all can mess you up.
i am feeling the effects of pregabalin i don't think its the med for me. i dont want a painkiller that makes me fat , the time i took 600mh i though i had a manic period but now i think it was serotonin syndrome, it only works on bad anxiety at 450mg plus but then it makes me depressed, depression even at low levels leads to bad depression if the med is feeding it , i dont think this pain killer is for me, olanzapine is the med to take but its weight gain is worse than pregabalin in most cases ok my buddy.
MyNameIsTerry
11-05-17, 14:08
i am feeling the effects of pregabalin i don't think its the med for me. i dont want a painkiller that makes me fat , the time i took 600mh i though i had a manic period but now i think it was serotonin syndrome, it only works on bad anxiety at 450mg plus but then it makes me depressed, depression even at low levels leads to bad depression if the med is feeding it , i dont think this pain killer is for me, olanzapine is the med to take but its weight gain is worse than pregabalin in most cases ok my buddy.
Yeah those anti psychotics are well known to cause changes in metabolism and even diabetes in long term use. But if it's what you need, it can be a small price to pay. It feeds depression too so I guess it depends if you think the weight gain will affect you that way?
I've seen a few people in here on Olanzapine long term at 5mg and when they reduced below this they found the cravings ended and the weight starting coming off.
From what the guys on the Preg board say, it seems to work better for less severe anxiety.
Yeah those anti psychotics are well known to cause changes in metabolism and even diabetes in long term use. But if it's what you need, it can be a small price to pay. It feeds depression too so I guess it depends if you think the weight gain will affect you that way?
I've seen a few people in here on Olanzapine long term at 5mg and when they reduced below this they found the cravings ended and the weight starting coming off.
From what the guys on the Preg board say, it seems to work better for less severe anxiety.
5mg is pretty low more like a sleep agent, but would put you out for most of the night, where has mirtazapine only works a short level of time before it does nothing for sleep.i spent many nights sat up in bed hoping for sleep on Mirt but Olan never lets you down.
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Yeah those anti psychotics are well known to cause changes in metabolism and even diabetes in long term use. But if it's what you need, it can be a small price to pay. It feeds depression too so I guess it depends if you think the weight gain will affect you that way?
I've seen a few people in here on Olanzapine long term at 5mg and when they reduced below this they found the cravings ended and the weight starting coming off.
From what the guys on the Preg board say, it seems to work better for less severe anxiety.
What is it your saying preg works better for severe anxiety or olan ???????
MyNameIsTerry
13-05-17, 05:08
5mg is pretty low more like a sleep agent, but would put you out for most of the night, where has mirtazapine only works a short level of time before it does nothing for sleep.i spent many nights sat up in bed hoping for sleep on Mirt but Olan never lets you down.
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What is it your saying preg works better for severe anxiety or olan ???????
Yeah, one was using it to help with sleep issues but the other 2 were more for anxiety.
No, I meant the guys on the Preg board say they find Preg works better for mild-moderate anxiety rather than severe anxiety. I would imagine Olanzapine has a greater impact on anxiety as it's origins are from people experiencing much more intense mental health issues.
Yeah, one was using it to help with sleep issues but the other 2 were more for anxiety.
No, I meant the guys on the Preg board say they find Preg works better for mild-moderate anxiety rather than severe anxiety. I would imagine Olanzapine has a greater impact on anxiety as it's origins are from people experiencing much more intense mental health issues.
PEGABALIN is no good for my anxiety i have found, and when i went to 6oo mg i experienced mild serotonin syndrome i thought it was a manic mood. then i though back i nearly died with serotonin syndrome of a large dose of TRAMADOL they gave me in the hospital , PREGABALIN at a low dose is not for me and a high dose MAY kill me . I need to be off PREG, they say i am allergic to tramadol and put that on my file. if so why have the risked a similar med on me.?????????
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