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phil06

22-05-17, 22:13

I've been googling this again but it's made me feel queezy and anxious. Does anybody else get like this? :ohmy:

O_O

14-10-17, 19:56

I hate this kind of magical thinking. Thankfully, it doesn't bother me as much anymore. Some things I've done to cope:

1. Limiting my use of search engines through web browser add-ons (I use LeechBlock for Firefox, because it allows me to check things only at certain times, for brief periods). Search engines are now for work and academic study only, and I've had to be really strict with myself about it, but I don't think I could do it without a blocker.

2. Just immediately shooting myself down when I think about anything existential pertaining to death. Period. If I even think about anything remotely close to "but what happens if/when--?" I just think "nope" and direct my thoughts/physical attention elsewhere. I keep books and handheld games around to help with this, and I have a few favorite subjects that I have tucked away in the back of my head that I can immediately refocus on if my OCD decides to pull this. Kind of like a mental "happy place". :cloud9:

3. When I'm calm and not obsessing about death/the afterlife, I try to remind myself that there's literally no possible way for me to know, for sure, what death and the afterlife are like. So why even waste my time? I started seeing it as a nuisance and a waste of energy after awhile (which it is) instead of something viable that should be researched. It could all be supposition and completely wrong. You could chase down hundreds of near-death experiences or descriptions of what the afterlife/the feeling of dying MAY be like... and it could all be wrong. Accepting the futility/uncertainty has helped a lot, and I hope you find something that works for you and at least makes it a little bit easier.

I acknowledge that OCD/anxiety makes me obsessed with knowing things 100 percent for sure. And the only thing I know that's definite about this situation is that there's no way I can ever be sure about death and what may come after, and that's been good enough to get me thinking about something else.

Hi absol,

I feel that you're a bit like me, except you have a much better handle on this than I do. I've basically had a mental collapse since having a miscarriage in August. It came to a head when I was told I'd need a general anaesthetic, and I told them that if I did I would die. I've managed to find a way around the general anaesthetic (so far...) but the miscarriage has been complicated and I'm still not physically back to normal. I experience dread and feelings of doom every day and an not functional at the moment. I've moved in for my mother who is doing everything for me.

phil06

21-11-20, 07:58

I have been googling this again. I worry about it and worry there is nothing I can do. I had a breakdown in 2016 and went to hospital and had no control over things then.

I worry what happens when you die nothing it an after life? It makes me very anxious often being human makes me anxious too. Can anyone relax my fears have you suffered this type of anxiety and got over it? I guess it’s not good to be worrying over this stuff? :unsure: Is the key to live life and not worry about this I mean being an anxious person it’s hard as I would rather live forever. I worry when you die it will be a boring place unless reincarnation exists and you can come back again?

pulisa

21-11-20, 08:28

What would a "boring" place mean to you?

Lolalee1

21-11-20, 09:32

I know Hell wouldn’t be boring I would get to see all my mates :yesyes:no pearly gates for me or Phil.

phil06

21-11-20, 20:58

Next Life? Sure that works in reincarnation

Death and nothing happening atall but emptiness well no faith can prepare for that.

Some kind of heaven and looking down on people well that’s maybe an after life but a boring one if you can’t touch feel smell ect and what would you do stay awake all day all night?

I read the other day they found a way reverse aging by 20 years too. I live in hope they find surrogates like the movie where you upload your mind to an android device. For me that would be better than any after life. Some futurists believe death is like a disease and can be cured or if they do upload the mind you continue to live.

fishman65

21-11-20, 23:40

I have a friend who's a spiritualist and for him its a religion. He sees dead people, feels their energy and passes on messages. I see and hear nothing so have to take his word for it. For myself I think we are chemicals charged with electrical impulses and those will end when we die. But who am I to say? That explanation would seem logical but depressing at the same time. Reading Richard Dawkins and hearing him say we are not here for any higher purpose, that there is no great plan, that we just 'are' until we die. Again I see the logic but its just so bleak.

NoraB

22-11-20, 07:41

I worry when you die it will be a boring place unless reincarnation exists and you can come back again?

What have you been reading?

You're speaking entirely from ego - which appears to be something we don't take with us when we die.

I'm struggling to understand what you're on about to be honest.

I know my consciousness will survive biological death. My experience (and subsequent ones) removed my fear of death.

We already know that consciousness survives clinical death because of NDE accounts - and the longer someone is 'down' the deeper the experience.

It's my understanding that all the things, that have made life as difficult as it is, will be gone and we will be back to our default setting which is love.

It's hard to imagine love without the influence of ego because egos are formed as soon as we are around other people. Hate, jealousy, anxiety, depression, sadness, hurt - they're all ego based. When I had an experience several decades ago, it was like none of those emotions existed - which was at odds with the fact that I was being bullied on a daily basis at school.

I've experienced this - albeit briefly - and there are no words to accurately describe how this felt. I wasn't on drugs, having a psychotic episode or asleep. I was wide awake and as compos mentis as it gets.

Can you imagine being you without all the crap?

Well you came into the world that way and you will leave the same way because all of it will be released as your consciousness separates from your body.

Regards the 'afterlife' being boring...

If boring is not being weighed down with all this egotistical shit (mine and other peoples), then I'll take boring!

We are all made of energy and energy cannot be destroyed - it can only change form - so the idea that we do not exist in any way after death doesn't make sense to me.

I do struggle with reincarnation but that's probably because I am looking at it from a human measurement of time perspective, but some of the accounts are very compelling - especially those of children which I'm more likely to believe because they have less cause to lie.

I've seen people who shouldn't be here and I've sensed many more. My dad came to me in a dream to show me the crematorium where we'd just had his service and him with his arm around his brother - him saying, 'I'll look after you kid' which I thought was odd because this was his eldest brother. Normally, dreams are fragmented, so some things are accurate but others are not because it's a jumble of memories. Not so in this dream - everything was exactly as it should have been. I remember feeling elated that my dad was sat in front of me but he didn't speak to me and that upset me. A few weeks later, my uncle died (6 weeks after my dad) and we were in that crematorium again - this time saying goodbye to my uncle.

The night before my mother died (suddenly) I had a dream where I was at my nan's house (mum's mum) and my nan looked about 35 years old (she was in her 60s when I was born) and everything about the house and garden was correct except for one door which didn't belong there, and Nan told me that I wasn't to open it. We were putting things into black sacks - like you would for a jumble sale? And the dream ended there. This was just before I woke up at about 9.30 am. The dream unnerved me a bit. It was a Saturday and I rarely spoke to Mum on a Saturday (and I'd spoken to her the night before) but something kept niggling at me. So I phoned about 10am and got no answer from the landline or mobile. Not unusual for my mum as she could have been in the shower, but this sense of something being wrong was too strong to ignore so I phoned my brother who agreed to go round and check she was ok. AT 11am he called me to say he'd found her dead on the floor and the paramedics estimated time of death between 9 and 9.30 am, so she was dying at the time I had my dream.

The evidence that consciousness survives death is enormous and, slowly, we are making progress using the scientific method ( Google Sam Parnia) but ultimately I's say it's probably best that most of us are kept guessing otherwise we'd be leaping off cliffs in droves...:shrug:

pulisa

22-11-20, 08:06

I think Phil just wants reassurance that he'll be able to go to gigs and on holiday again in any potential afterlife!:)

NoraB

22-11-20, 08:10

I think Phil just wants reassurance that he'll be able to go to gigs and on holiday again in any potential afterlife!:)

The afterlife is one big holiday lol

But then reincarnation supposedly buggers it all up again. I know one thing; if I come back, it will be as a bloke! :lac:

I wouldn't say no to a free front row seat at a Cure gig - while Bob can still play, obvs. :yesyes:

pulisa

22-11-20, 08:17

That's if there isn't a lockdown in a reincarnation scenario....

I think I'll be happy to call it a day as and when..

NoraB

22-11-20, 08:20

That's if there isn't a lockdown in a reincarnation scenario....

You literally just blew my circuits lol

I think I'll be happy to call it a day as and when..

I'm quite looking forward to the rest, after I've done some serious haunting that is...:yesyes:

pulisa

22-11-20, 08:24

I have a horrible feeling that my daughter would dig me up if I were buried so I'm opting for cremation!:D

NoraB

22-11-20, 08:27

I have a horrible feeling that my daughter would dig me up if I were buried so I'm opting for cremation!:D

Fire up the chuffing furnace for me. :yesyes:

pulisa

22-11-20, 08:29

I won't need a lot of fire power..but I'll tell you all about it from t'other side!:yesyes:

NoraB

22-11-20, 08:37

I won't need a lot of fire power..

Me neither lol. 5 foot and thinning bones - won't take long to BBQ me lol

but I'll tell you all about it from t'other side!

If I beat you to it, I'll tell you all about it. :yesyes:

MyNameIsTerry

22-11-20, 09:04

My worry is...

https://onlyfoolsandhorsesquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/karma.jpg

NoraB

22-11-20, 09:20

My worry is...

https://onlyfoolsandhorsesquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/karma.jpg

:roflmao:

pulisa

22-11-20, 13:58

Dear God no..I'd demand a refund!:D

MyNameIsTerry

22-11-20, 14:57

I'd be straight round the Dalai Lama's place to make a complaint! :biggrin:

Fishmanpa

22-11-20, 17:41

Dear God no..I'd demand a refund!:D

Yeah but you'd already know what's going to happen and can change things ;) There was a book I read called "Replay" by Ken Greenwood which is about a man who dies at 43 and wakes up 25 years earlier in his college dorm room, remembering everything that happened to him and what he did to change or keep things the same. Very cool....

Positive thoughts

pulisa

22-11-20, 19:57

One life is enough for me, FMP!:)

Fishmanpa

22-11-20, 22:47

One life is enough for me, FMP!:)

I don't know... If I would wake up after dying, 25 years earlier in my life, knowing what I currently know, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Think about it, you know who won sporting events and such and could bet large sums of $$ and win. You could warn and help others to avoid pending disaster etc. For me, I could avoid that woman who gave me HPV and was the cause of my H&N cancer! (I know who it is).... There are definitely some benefits ;)

Positive thoughts

phil06

22-11-20, 23:12

What have you been reading?

You're speaking entirely from ego - which appears to be something we don't take with us when we die.

I'm struggling to understand what you're on about to be honest.

I know my consciousness will survive biological death. My experience (and subsequent ones) removed my fear of death.

We already know that consciousness survives clinical death because of NDE accounts - and the longer someone is 'down' the deeper the experience.

It's my understanding that all the things, that have made life as difficult as it is, will be gone and we will be back to our default setting which is love.

It's hard to imagine love without the influence of ego because egos are formed as soon as we are around other people. Hate, jealousy, anxiety, depression, sadness, hurt - they're all ego based. When I had an experience several decades ago, it was like none of those emotions existed - which was at odds with the fact that I was being bullied on a daily basis at school.

I've experienced this - albeit briefly - and there are no words to accurately describe how this felt. I wasn't on drugs, having a psychotic episode or asleep. I was wide awake and as compos mentis as it gets.

Can you imagine being you without all the crap?

Well you came into the world that way and you will leave the same way because all of it will be released as your consciousness separates from your body.

Regards the 'afterlife' being boring...

If boring is not being weighed down with all this egotistical shit (mine and other peoples), then I'll take boring!

We are all made of energy and energy cannot be destroyed - it can only change form - so the idea that we do not exist in any way after death doesn't make sense to me.

I do struggle with reincarnation but that's probably because I am looking at it from a human measurement of time perspective, but some of the accounts are very compelling - especially those of children which I'm more likely to believe because they have less cause to lie.

I've seen people who shouldn't be here and I've sensed many more. My dad came to me in a dream to show me the crematorium where we'd just had his service and him with his arm around his brother - him saying, 'I'll look after you kid' which I thought was odd because this was his eldest brother. Normally, dreams are fragmented, so some things are accurate but others are not because it's a jumble of memories. Not so in this dream - everything was exactly as it should have been. I remember feeling elated that my dad was sat in front of me but he didn't speak to me and that upset me. A few weeks later, my uncle died (6 weeks after my dad) and we were in that crematorium again - this time saying goodbye to my uncle.

The night before my mother died (suddenly) I had a dream where I was at my nan's house (mum's mum) and my nan looked about 35 years old (she was in her 60s when I was born) and everything about the house and garden was correct except for one door which didn't belong there, and Nan told me that I wasn't to open it. We were putting things into black sacks - like you would for a jumble sale? And the dream ended there. This was just before I woke up at about 9.30 am. The dream unnerved me a bit. It was a Saturday and I rarely spoke to Mum on a Saturday (and I'd spoken to her the night before) but something kept niggling at me. So I phoned about 10am and got no answer from the landline or mobile. Not unusual for my mum as she could have been in the shower, but this sense of something being wrong was too strong to ignore so I phoned my brother who agreed to go round and check she was ok. AT 11am he called me to say he'd found her dead on the floor and the paramedics estimated time of death between 9 and 9.30 am, so she was dying at the time I had my dream.

The evidence that consciousness survives death is enormous and, slowly, we are making progress using the scientific method ( Google Sam Parnia) but ultimately I's say it's probably best that most of us are kept guessing otherwise we'd be leaping off cliffs in droves...:shrug:

Thanks that’s very interesting especially the dream part. I have heard stories of people floating above there body ect I believe my dad had this. So do you don’t quite believe reincarnation but some sort of after life? For me unless you get to come back again in reincarnation it’s a bit pointless. I don’t see how any other world can be better than earth as we know it. I have terrible anxiety about dying every day so I know I need help with this issue. I feel it helps to talk about it too but I know once I have had this conversation I can’t keep thinking I’m dying every day?

For me immorality has to be the future or atleast some sort of extended life maybe 120,130? My grand mother is actually 105 which is quite old. Sadly men don’t live as long. Sure life can be stressful but the idea of it not continuing is depressing. I mean perhaps when you are 90 retried and don’t have your family around anymore perhaps you care less? I also worry about future deaths celebs or family as you never know how you will cope I have heard of people dying just soon after someone close to them dies that’s quite scary too?

NoraB

23-11-20, 06:10

Thanks that’s very interesting especially the dream part. I have heard stories of people floating above there body ect I believe my dad had this.

Out of body experience? I've never had this. Been close a few times, but I think that was down to the pints of real ale and dodgy kebabs. :D

So do you don’t quite believe reincarnation but some sort of after life?

It's not that I don't believe in reincarnation - I'm too open-minded for that - I just struggle to get my head around it. I struggle with the concept that my son and I could have been 'man and wife' in a different life. Again, that's my ignorance because we're talking soul level. You get me? The afterlife is easy to get my head around because I've experienced paranormal stuff since I was 9 years old. It found me, not the other way around. I also tend to find the reincarnation accounts of children more believable than adults who claim to have been Cleopatra etc

For me unless you get to come back again in reincarnation it’s a bit pointless.

Reincarnation - as I understand it - is about evolving spiritually.

I have terrible anxiety about dying every day so I know I need help with this issue. I feel it helps to talk about it too but I know once I have had this conversation I can’t keep thinking I’m dying every day?

Because you're not accepting death as part of life.

For me immorality has to be the future or atleast some sort of extended life maybe 120,130?

Phil, my eyebrows shot up reading this until I got to the second part and realised it was a typo! :yesyes:

My grand mother is actually 105 which is quite old. Sadly men don’t live as long.

Did she have her telegram from the Queen? :yahoo:

Good news for you Phil if you have longevity like this in your family!

Men aren't that far behind women generally..

Both my grandmothers died in their 70s. (Grandad was 81 - Nan was 77) and that was forty years after his first heart attack. Apparently a pint of cider, snuff, and a ploughmans lunch everyday is the key to living longer lol

Sure life can be stressful but the idea of it not continuing is depressing. I mean perhaps when you are 90 retried and don’t have your family around anymore perhaps you care less?

This is fascinating me because you're not exactly living now are you? You're here, technically, but your mind is elsewhere worrying about the future and things that might never happen - except death which definitely will happen - and this means you can't possibly be fully present.

I also worry about future deaths celebs or family as you never know how you will cope

I don't worry about people I like dying (rock stars etc) but it affects me very deeply when they do.

I have heard of people dying just soon after someone close to them dies that’s quite scary too?

This generally happens with elderly people and it stands to reason that, when they've spent the majority of their lives loving somebody - and those people die - the will to live is removed because their reason for living has gone. That's not scary - that's love.

MyNameIsTerry

23-11-20, 09:30

phil06

23-11-20, 09:52

Nora, my nana was like that. She had to move into a home as she couldn't be supported enough (many years ago too so services were poor) after grandad passed. She was in there a while but told my mum she just wanted to go to join grandad. She said she had done all she would. She passed very soon after saying this.

I think elderly couples passing at close intervals is better than years of grief if you are so old you won't have other opportunities to be happy. Perhaps not nice for we kids but I think it's better for them if it saves them pain.

If we do get to live to 130 I hope it includes some physical boost. Being elderly for 60+ years would be worse to me.

Did you see this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/biological-clock-ageing-turn-back-reverse-study-new-a9094261.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975517/amp/Israeli-scientists-kill-cancer-cells-ground-breaking-DNA-altering-treatment-CRISPR.html

This offers hope. I mean did they not say 30 use to be old back in the days people died at 50. Each year we extending life who is to say in 50 years it may not mean you are not old by 60? For example J-Lo and Madonna don’t look there age. 60 could be the new middle age?

NoraB

23-11-20, 15:40

I think elderly couples passing at close intervals is better than years of grief if you are so old you won't have other opportunities to be happy. Perhaps not nice for we kids but I think it's better for them if it saves them pain.

My mother was only 57 when the love of her life died. That's 7 years older than me. (sobering thought). She lived for another 15 years but she wasn't happy without my dad.

If we do get to live to 130 I hope it includes some physical boost. Being elderly for 60+ years would be worse to me.

I don't want to live to that kind of age. I'm knackered at 50. I know this much for certain - being plonked in an old folks home would kill me off within days...

My MIL did some respite in a Shady Pines and one day one of the old girls chucked a cup of tea at one of the other residents. :ohmy:

Decision made. Sod that for a game of conkers! :whistles:

pulisa

23-11-20, 18:03

Phil's posts always make me feel so old...but the truth is that I bet I am a lot more active than he is..and I have the blood pressure of an 18 year old!:D

I don't get why you want to live forever, Phil, yet are tormented daily by your mental health issues? It's not much of a life, is it?

fishman65

23-11-20, 22:32

Lolalee1

24-11-20, 10:19

phil06

24-11-20, 10:50

Lolalee1

24-11-20, 10:59

Well Phil That is up to you,one has to work hard on getting your life back.

pulisa

24-11-20, 13:19

J-Lo and Madonna don’t look their age Phil because of Botox,Fillers,Lyposuction,Rhinoplasty,Brazilian butt lifts,Restylane and body sculpturing, I am sure most women would like the money to look like them,Madonna excluded:roflmao:

I think women who have had "work" done on them look awful..If I had their money I wouldn't spend it on cosmetic surgery (I'd need an estimate anyway with the amount of work I'd need doing!:D)

NoraB

25-11-20, 08:24

I live in hope of one day not suffering anxiety but I am still waiting

And that's the problem isn't it? You're waiting for somebody to wave the magic wand and you're anxiety free.

Not going to happen Phil.

NoraB

25-11-20, 08:37

For example J-Lo and Madonna don’t look there age

Neither would you if you were part-plastic. Barbie still looks like she's in her early 20s and she's 61. :roflmao:

Yes, these ladies look fabulous when everything's been hoiked up, the blurring-effect/illuminating/dewy-look war paint is slapped on, and the photographer has worked their photoshop magic, but you won't see these gals standing near radiators or open fires, you get me?

Also, they look like shite first thing in the morning like the rest of us. :yesyes:

MyNameIsTerry

25-11-20, 08:40

Did you see this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/biological-clock-ageing-turn-back-reverse-study-new-a9094261.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975517/amp/Israeli-scientists-kill-cancer-cells-ground-breaking-DNA-altering-treatment-CRISPR.html

This offers hope. I mean did they not say 30 use to be old back in the days people died at 50. Each year we extending life who is to say in 50 years it may not mean you are not old by 60? For example J-Lo and Madonna don’t look there age. 60 could be the new middle age?

The mice lived 30% longer. They've got nothing on Mr Jingles! :biggrin:

The trouble with a lot of cosmetic surgery is you start turning into the aliens often seen in Hollywood. Finn Carter was a beautiful woman but now looks alien. Priscilla Presley looks like she's been embalmed. Madonna is looking strange these days. J-Lo does look great.

The thing is we also have better understanding of nutrition and exercise these days. On the male side there are incredibly muscular guys in their 50 & 60s that look better than most men at half their age.

Father Time always catches up though and they have to have surgery to slow it down or just melt. At this point it's a false economy and you look like Jackie Stallone.

I prefer natural in the beauty dept. I think Jamie Lee Curtis looks great with her grey hair. Many people go grey early anyway with the platinum look so even when grey you can make it look healthier.

There was something in the media about being able to live up to 500. That should just about give us enough time to get a decent pension accrued. God no though, the government would have us working to over 400! :ohmy:

MyNameIsTerry

25-11-20, 08:43

Neither would you if you were part-plastic. Barbie still looks like she's in her early 20s and she's 61. :roflmao:

Yes, these ladies look fabulous when everything's been hoiked up, the blurring-effect/illuminating/dewy-look war paint is slapped on, and the photographer has worked their photoshop magic, but you won't see these gals standing near radiators or open fires, you get me?

Also, they look like shite first thing in the morning like the rest of us. :yesyes:

Just imagine what the Geordie Shore loons will look like old. They already morph into one with the weird facial surgery.

It reminds me of Escape From New York. There was a surgeon general trying to preserve the rich set criminals who had plastic surgery. Some of them looked like some we see now.

MyNameIsTerry

25-11-20, 08:45

I think women who have had "work" done on them look awful..If I had their money I wouldn't spend it on cosmetic surgery (I'd need an estimate anyway with the amount of work I'd need doing!:D)

Shh...the Vorderman does a ton of squats to get that bottom. Kind of strange it has sucked her waste in and upped her breast size so now she resembles a blow up doll. And I always thought squats work the quads more yet she doesn't have bodybuilder legs to accompany the huge Kardashian-like rump. :whistles:

NoraB

25-11-20, 08:52

Priscilla Presley looks like she's been embalmed. Madonna is looking strange these days. J-Lo does look great.

You're right about Priscilla. Her and Madge have that 'look' of women who've seriously overdone the plastic surgery. Personally, I would rather see wrinkles and a turkey neck!

On the male side there are incredibly muscular guys in their 50 & 60s that look better than most men at half their age.

Hubs is in the bracket of middle-aged blokes sporting a one pack. :yesyes: (mind you, so am I)

I prefer natural in the beauty dept. I think Jamie Lee Curtis looks great with her grey hair. Many people go grey early anyway with the platinum look so even when grey you can make it look healthier.

Jamie is one of my girl crushes. She's gorgeous, and naturally so. She bloody rocks grey hair!!:yahoo:

There was something in the media about being able to live up to 500.

I say this with as much emotion as one can muster up at 8.50 am after a difficult bowel movement and broken sleep..

500 YEARS OLD? SOD THAT FOR A GAME OF CONKERS!!!!! :lac:

Lolalee1

25-11-20, 10:06

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:roflmao:

pulisa

25-11-20, 13:23

Madonna has recently had a hip replacement...allegedly.

pulisa

25-11-20, 13:24

Cher should know that it's not always possible to Turn Back Time..

NoraB

25-11-20, 15:59

Madonna has recently had a hip replacement...allegedly.

Was her hip 'Broken'? :yahoo:

NoraB

25-11-20, 16:01

Cher should know that it's not always possible to Turn Back Time..

I Believe she should sue her plastic surgeon!

pulisa

25-11-20, 17:53

Was her hip 'Broken'? :yahoo:

Yes .....I think she did it on Holiday...Her dad advised her not to go skiing at her advanced age but she said Papa, Don't Preach..

fishman65

25-11-20, 20:03

This talking of being alive for the sake of it reminds me of a very old episode of Dr Who. The Doctor (was it Tom Baker?) arrived on a planet where Davros had been held prisoner in some kind of suspended animation. Davros had been in there for 96 years or something and the Doctor asked 'Were you conscious?' Davros said 'Every second'.

NoraB

26-11-20, 05:27

Yes .....I think she did it on Holiday...Her dad advised her not to go skiing at her advanced age but she said Papa, Don't Preach..

:roflmao:

NoraB

26-11-20, 05:29

MyNameIsTerry

26-11-20, 09:48

5239524052415242

:roflmao:

Bloody hell who are the 2 that look like bad Thunderbirds models? :ohmy:

In fact I've just remembered what they reminded me of: Dick Spanner P.I. :roflmao:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0475/4549/products/dick-spanner-pi-dvdregion-2-455806_400x.jpg?v=1582712086

Lolalee1

27-11-20, 01:06

:roflmao:
They do too.
I remember watching a program on the idiot box about how much they had spent on surgical procedures.
J Lo has spent a lot of dough on her mug :D

MyNameIsTerry

27-11-20, 09:35

:roflmao:
They do too.
I remember watching a program on the idiot box about how much they had spent on surgical procedures.
J Lo has spent a lot of dough on her mug :D

Have you seen the guy who has spent tons trying to look like Crystal Ken? His face barely moves.

I think I still could with J-Lo...but then look at my ugly mug :roflmao: She looked petty damn good in the film, Parker, with 'the Stath' that I saw recently :yesyes: Remember there are available positions to compensate for the mug https://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/sex/t1516.gif

Lolalee1

27-11-20, 10:07

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^Is it this idiot Terry? he was on Botched.
I reckon his package has had some work :roflmao:

MyNameIsTerry

28-11-20, 05:41

52445245
^Is it this idiot Terry? he was on Botched.
I reckon his package has had some work :roflmao:

At least a sock is cheap :yesyes:

It's sad because he was a good looking guy before. I remember seeing him in Big Brother.

Now he has become Barbie. Cashing in on any popular thing or a psychological problem?

NoraB

28-11-20, 06:50

It's sad because he was a good looking guy before. I remember seeing him in Big Brother.

Now he has become Barbie. Cashing in on any popular thing or a psychological problem?

I always remember Pete Burns from Dead or Alive. His band was responsible for one of the most iconic songs of the 80s. The bloke was gorgeous in that feminine looking way like Nick Rhodes, David Sylvian etc. Then Pete had his lips done and it was a botch job. This spiralled into him almost bankrupting himself paying for over 300 surgeries - one of which almost killed him on the operating table. Pete clearly had a psychological disorder - body dysmorphia or whatever - and in the end I don't think he really knew who he was, poor sod.

pulisa

28-11-20, 08:23

Poor tormented Pete Burns....and shame on all these vile cosmetic surgeons who encourage the illness and take the money time after time

Lolalee1

28-11-20, 08:43

We had one GP that was doing cosmetic surgery and now is facing prison,some of his botched work is shocking how he got away with it for so long is mind boggling.
Body Dsymorphia is a terrible illness I have a relative that was diagnosed after years of family saying how crazy and nothing wrong with her now she is in a shared home for women with the same condition.
I remember my sister playing that song You Spin me right round x

MyNameIsTerry

29-11-20, 08:43

Oh god don't mention Pete Burns! Now you've reminded me of that infamous upskirt of him performing on stage. You think going commando is the shocker (it's all freely swinging to the beat) but no, then you look down and see the poo on the stage :ohmy::blush:

NoraB

30-11-20, 08:06

Pete Burns apparently had a near death experience and he said that dying was a lovely feeling with everything 'soft and floppy'... :ohmy:

*waits for Terry's comment on the soft and floppy* :D