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Ethansmom
24-05-17, 20:50
It feels like my body is buzzing or slightly trembling. I take clonazapam in the morning to start my day off right. I had this problem before the medication. I guess my body is in the stages of trying to recover. I am going to weekly therapy and taking medication.

.Poppy.
24-05-17, 21:28
Not when I wake up, no, but this is how I feel post-panic attack.

Josh1234
24-05-17, 21:30
Yep. Feels like a cell phone is vibrating. It's cortisol, which kicks in when you're stressed or anxious, and it's highest levels are in the am. I always vibrate the morning after a stressful day.

Ethansmom
24-05-17, 22:42
That's me! I had a stressful night and a mild panic attack. I woke up vibrating ....it was so weird!

Melonpony
24-05-17, 23:09
I used to get this when my cortisol levels were likely through the roof. Work on stress relief and relaxation. It should pass in a week if you do. Cortisol has a 24 hour half life in the body.

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jules321
25-05-17, 00:28
This is great to know as this vibrating feeling has been stressing me out.

MyNameIsTerry
25-05-17, 03:51
I used to get this when my cortisol levels were likely through the roof. Work on stress relief and relaxation. It should pass in a week if you do. Cortisol has a 24 hour half life in the body.

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It has a 66 minute half life. Up to 120 mins in excessive load periods.

It peaks around 8am but since it's linked to diurnal rhythm, that must alter in line with sleep pattern.

But I certainly have always had the worst part of my anxiety upon waking.

Melonpony
25-05-17, 04:57
It has a 66 minute half life. Up to 120 mins in excessive load periods.

It peaks around 8am but since it's linked to diurnal rhythm, that must alter in line with sleep pattern.

But I certainly have always had the worst part of my anxiety upon waking.
Interesting that you said it has a 66 min half life. My therapist told me 24 hours. Can you please tell me more about the cortisol life, please? I may have misunderstood my therapist.

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AntsyVee
25-05-17, 06:14
Yes. It's very common.

My doc told me it's because of interruptions during the sleep cycles. It's common to have nausea with it too.

MyNameIsTerry
25-05-17, 07:23
Interesting that you said it has a 66 min half life. My therapist told me 24 hours. Can you please tell me more about the cortisol life, please? I may have misunderstood my therapist.

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The 1-2 hour mark, or similiar variations, are quoted in various medical texts. What your therapist might have been trying to explain was perhaps the daily cycle but that wouldn't involve a half life. People often think a half life is half the overall time to elimination but in pharmacokinetics it takes 7 times the half life to be completely eliminated from the body. At each half life it reduces by 50% of tree current level e.g. If half life is 66 mins then that's 50%, another 66 mins takes it to 25%, another 66 mins takes it to 12.5%, etc. This is a standard calculation used so it varies per drug and there are factors such such as renal insufficiency that cause variation, if a child or pensioner causes variation, etc. This is when assessing elimination, because Cortisol is mostly metabolised I'm not sure without checking if this means a variation of it's own.

Cortisol is highest as we wake, as Josh says, because it's thought to be a stress response to prepare us for the day. It then starts to decline through the day. This makes sense for those of us who struggle more in the first half of the day but makes less sense for those who struggle later in the day. So, it's only one factor in our anxiety but perhaps more important to some of us in changing how we react to it?

There is a good page on Wiki explaining Cortisol awakening response:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisol_awakening_response

It's all tied to our diurnal rhythm which is perhaps more what the therapist was trying to get across? It looks like this:

http://media.tumblr.com/6e91e6cd3c0f7765328eae1302d89871/tumblr_inline_ms6zxdBo8J1qz4rgp.jpg

That spike makes sense to to me because I can remember having terrible trouble waking an hour or two before I was due to and I was very anxious. I couldn't get back to sleep and just made myself worse.

Something else I have found is that it is better to just get up and get moving. 90% of Cortisol is metabolised by the body rather than excreted. With adrenaline we get light exercise to burn that off which is largely metabolising it into something else the body needs. So, perhaps we can influence Cortisol the same way? That's something I haven't got as far as checking into.

Melonpony
25-05-17, 16:02
The 1-2 hour mark, or similiar variations, are quoted in various medical texts. What your therapist might have been trying to explain was perhaps the daily cycle but that wouldn't involve a half life. People often think a half life is half the overall time to elimination but in pharmacokinetics it takes 7 times the half life to be completely eliminated from the body. At each half life it reduces by 50% of tree current level e.g. If half life is 66 mins then that's 50%, another 66 mins takes it to 25%, another 66 mins takes it to 12.5%, etc. This is a standard calculation used so it varies per drug and there are factors such such as renal insufficiency that cause variation, if a child or pensioner causes variation, etc. This is when assessing elimination, because Cortisol is mostly metabolised I'm not sure without checking if this means a variation of it's own.

Cortisol is highest as we wake, as Josh says, because it's thought to be a stress response to prepare us for the day. It then starts to decline through the day. This makes sense for those of us who struggle more in the first half of the day but makes less sense for those who struggle later in the day. So, it's only one factor in our anxiety but perhaps more important to some of us in changing how we react to it?

There is a good page on Wiki explaining Cortisol awakening response:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisol_awakening_response

It's all tied to our diurnal rhythm which is perhaps more what the therapist was trying to get across? It looks like this:

http://media.tumblr.com/6e91e6cd3c0f7765328eae1302d89871/tumblr_inline_ms6zxdBo8J1qz4rgp.jpg

That spike makes sense to to me because I can remember having terrible trouble waking an hour or two before I was due to and I was very anxious. I couldn't get back to sleep and just made myself worse.

Something else I have found is that it is better to just get up and get moving. 90% of Cortisol is metabolised by the body rather than excreted. With adrenaline we get light exercise to burn that off which is largely metabolising it into something else the body needs. So, perhaps we can influence Cortisol the same way? That's something I haven't got as far as checking into.
Thank you- this is great info. Maybe she was talking about something else, I'll have to clarify with her next session.
For sure if we have constant stress elevated, there is no real relief. Unless we take a few hours or more to decompress. This is why vacations are so important! Taking a break from daily stressors really does have an impact, based on the research you've sent...something to ponder!

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Ethansmom
25-05-17, 16:32
Thank you, all for responding. This has been a very helpful discussion. If only, I could stop focusing on my anxiety symptoms. I spend so much time internalizing every sensation, that i'm not really living my life.

Ethansmom
30-06-17, 15:23
I'd like to go back to this discussion if you don't mind. I'm still having on and off periods of internal shaking and anxiety when I wake up. I even take meds and it's still happens. Sometimes it will last a week or two and sometimes I won't have it at all. I'm female, so I wonder if my anxiety increases the week before my period is due.

I had a bad panic attack yesterday-- haven't had one like that in a few weeks!

Dave1
30-06-17, 16:51
When I wake up I feel a mild vibration in the centre of my chest - like a buzzing sensation, and unconnected with my heart which is beating normally.

Shazamataz
02-07-17, 11:48
When I was really bad with anxiety I had this often. Every time I tried to rest or sleep, day or night. I was almost not sleeping at all so tried napping during the day and the vibrating was quite severe. It went once my anxiety settled. It's not a pleasant feeling!

MrsBritty
04-07-17, 03:18
Yes. It's very common.

My doc told me it's because of interruptions during the sleep cycles. It's common to have nausea with it too.

Wow! I am so happy I saw this for about 3 weeks I kept waking up with what felt like was a switch turning on and off inside my body with extreme nausea. I would actually vomit, I really thought I was dying it was such an awful feeling.

Leah88
04-07-17, 06:46
I did when I was pregnant for some reason. Maybe hormonal?... the cortisol thing might be spot on because I was anxious upon waking

Hypomean
06-10-17, 14:56
I have this buzzing in my chest all day everyday going on into 3 weeks non stop.
I get the sensation like my heart not beating right because of this. It gives me nausea the sensation is too much it just upsets my stomach. It makes me breath shallow.

When the buzzing is bad and I get nauseous, I feel like I'm going to die. It's really freaking me out. And I can't go to the doctors :(