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groovygranny
09-05-07, 07:14
HI all
GG woke this morning on the up-side of a rollercoaster.:weep:
It's Wednesday and it's suddenly hit me that Friday is two days away.
I have an all-day meeting that I truly don't want to go to, and I'm thinking of ways to get out of it - but I know I can't.
My stomachs doing flip-flops, my hands are sweaty, my chest is tight, my head istingling - I haven't felt anx like this for nearly a year.
The last meeting like this I went to I had a bad cold and left barely half way through - but the cold wasn't the primary reason. No, that was the 'get-out' clause that I needed and I made full use of it.
I don't want to go down that road again as I know it acheives nothing. I have to go. I'm the IT network manager/technician for my school and there will be others from all around my area at this meeeting.
And I fear being sat there not knowing what they're all going to be talking abuot. I don't have any great formal qualifications for my job. Apart from the usual initial IT certificates I got from the local college and an online course. Most of what I know I have learned by practice, trial and error and the good instruction of a couple of my friends who also work in IT. The Head Teacher and staff at the school I work in our very happy with what I do. But, when the chips are down I'm going to have to hold my own on Friday with all the rest..and I'm dreading it.
I'm still trying to keep my sendse of humour, and I thought I was on top of this lately - it's just hit me this morning that I probably am not on top of it as much as I thought I was! GG finds it veery difficult at times to practice what she preaches!:ohmy:
I don't want to go, but I also don't want to 'duck out' again like last time....sort of a catch 22 situation for me at the moment!
ANyway, thanks for listening - it helps to write things down.:)
:hugs:
Hi GG
You will be fine remember what you told me when I was scared of travelling away on my own and I did it
remember to take your little yellow bottle ( rescue remedy) with you and use it before the meeting starts
dont worry you will be fine you can do it
will be thinking of you
syl
groovygranny
09-05-07, 09:19
Thanks Syl,
Yes I really will try.....
....not so good a start to the day here at the mo:huh:.
Something to remember GG
You are as valid and important as every other person in that room. Believe in yourself.
If they are talking about stuff you don't understand, you can bet there are others in the room who don't understand too.
Lots of people can talk a good talk, but when it comes to it, they can't 'do' what they talk about.
You are a worthy woman GG, believe it.
happyone
xx
Hi me lovely Janner Buddy,
So sorry to hear your feeling bad hun.
I know it's hard but try to push Friday out of your mind for now. Anticapatory Anxiety is always the worst sweetheart.
I'm sure you will be fine me lovely. Deep Breaths and some http://www.thinknatural.com/prodimages/prod/700391_la.jpg
As you say the School are very happy with you and you do a http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_8_15.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB)JOB! and that's what counts me darlin.
Take Care,
Thinking Of You and http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_9_12.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB) for friday,
Sending BIGhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/58/hugs04ug2.gif
Oh and not one bit of Pink in the Post hun! Oh that took some restraint I can tell you!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB)LOL
Saw this to thought it might Cheer You Up
http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1083
Those were the days hey! :winks: LOL Only Joking!:blush:
Take Care,
Love Pip's X X http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_16.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB)
Hey GG, I know it's easy to feel less confident than others who MAY be better qualified at the job, but you can't beat experience.
I was discussing this the other day - of all the people I have employed (in an IT-related role), the best of all was a lovely bright girl who had no qualifications for the job. She was just good at it naturally and her lovely nature when dealing with people at work put the rest of us to shame!
Having been an employer in the past, I don't regard qualifications as a measure of someone's ability to do the job well.
Something I do sometimes when faced with these peer meetings is to go armed with some questions of your own. If you ever get put on the spot, you can then turn the discussion around to something YOU want to know!
It's OK not to know everything and you should really look at these meetings as a information-gathering exercise. Whoever hosts the meetings would be sad to think that people were sitting there quiet, afraid to ask, as it defeats the object somewhat!
Go easy on yourself - it will be OK!
Eeb x
Hi GG!
None of us like the run up to things such as this, but I know that you know by avoiding confrontation with these events, we will never make any progress.
Focus on the fact that you are required there - you must be respected and valued (try and believe that anyway:) ).
I don't think your qualifications have much to do with your ability - I've long been a believer that it is attitude that gets you by in this world! And I know you have that!
I know you will do it hun, go go go!!:D
groovygranny
09-05-07, 12:25
You lot are truly awesome you know.
Happyone: You're so sweet. I'm a WYSIWYG sort of person so I don't talk if I can't do - so I'm not going to be talking much I think!
Pips: Me 'ansome Janner Mate - thank you, that was a little light bulb in a dark day so far but I can't access the chav link because of the Porn Filter I've put on the server ! I'll look when I get home tonite.
Eeby: That was comforting, I'll try and take on board your wise words.
Ray: I will go go go - I promise I won't bale out. Thank you for your encouragement.
I'm so grateful to be in a job where I can log on here at breaktimes and lunchtimes (and in between times when nobody's looking!)
I'm feeling 'crapper' than I was as whatever could go wrong has gone wrong this morning! My fuzzy head feels as though it's somewhere else, my nerves are like exposed electric cables and I've just nearly bitten someone's head off (they needed telling but not like I just did, that's not like me to do that) and I would just love to get off this rollercoaster or for it even to slow down a bit, but I know I'm not on it alone..
....and that helps...thank you :hugs:
I agree with all the above replies and what about trying this little exercise from the Paul Mckenna book 'How to change your life in 7 days'.
This is the gist of it;
Instant confidence booster
Hold your head up high in a comfortable postition and imagine a golden thread running up your spine and straight up to the sky - let yourself relax, safely held by this thread.
Now remember a time when you did feel really confident and return to it in your head and remember how good it made you feel (if you can't remember one then imagine how you'd be if you were already really confident).
Notice where that feeling of confidence starts in your body and give it a colour - then move that colour up to the top of your head and down to the tip of your toes and down your arms, radiating right through the whole of your body. Double the brightness and then double it again. Till you are just filled to the brim with wonderful confident colour and just keep doing it! :yesyes:
Here also is a tip Pips gave me a couple of years ago that is still working well for me 24 months later.
Everytime you have a negative thought imagine a lollipop lady's stop sign in your head and immediately change your mindset to think about something different. I do this so regularly now that it has become a habit and has really lessened my negative daydreaming/ruminating.
Thanks Pips again. :yesyes:
You'll be great GG - this time it's not enough to just merely endure the meeting, this time have a goal to actually enjoy it too. This anxiety must not always have it's own way!!!
Love Piglet:flowers:
groovygranny
09-05-07, 15:49
Thanks Piglet..good stuff..
I'm going to print that out and keep it in my handbag.
School day's nearly over now, it's been pants......then just tomorrow to face....and then....
I'm sorry I'm sounding like the wettest, limpest lettuce leaf in the salad bowl....not like me at all, and I dn't like it:huh:.
But hey, I'll JFDI eh?
PS: just heard we've got a massive audit coming up at the end of the month......and guess who's responsible for the inventory?? Have the wheels on this rollercoaster just been oiled then?!!
:hugs:
honeybee3939
09-05-07, 15:55
Hi GG
Thats the spirit JFDI !!!:) :)
I was real impressed when i read your holiday thread! you achieved many things while on holiday, im sure you will achieve this too !!!:) :)
hugs
:hugs:
Andrea
xxxxx
GG,
You can do this, just think a meeting is a walk in the park compared to travelling to another country ( ok not that I can do any of those at the minute lol).
Just remember your good at your job and you can hold your own amongst the rest of them at the meeting, with your determination and good humour you will succeed at this just as you do at everything else you put your mind too.
Good luck and keep telling yourself that you are going to JFDI :hugs:
Love
Trac xxx
groovygranny
09-05-07, 20:31
Andrea and Trac, thank you - I know you're right.
Yes, I am determined to JFDI - just as I did with the other things. And I know I'll do it with all the support I get from here.
I just can't understand why this has gripped me so violently as it has, with thoughts of how I can get out of it. I always get a few belly flips, finger tingling and a 'fizzy' head before I undertake something - and still 'go for it' - but these symptoms just don't seem to be letting up, though not a full blown pa thank goodness.
I'm trying to carry on as normal, getting on with work (crap day), entertaining mother for tea, talking to one of my daughters who is pregnant on the phone, posting here and there on NMP and desperately clinging to my sense of humour. Once that goes I know I'm in real trouble. Then, all of a sudden it just sweeps all over me again and off I go on that ruddy rollercoaster with my heart in my mouth.
I feel such a wimp - and I've asked myself how can I reply to others when I'm not putting my own advice into practice for me? Seems almost two-faced somehow.
I've had some good advice today and I will try Piglet's and Pip's tips - try saying that on half a packet of wine gums!
Thanks for being here for me everyone - 48hrs and counting - then it'll all be over.
:flowers:
GG
Just think how proud of yourself you'll be come Friday evening, when you can sit back in a chair with large glass of red and think 'I did it'.
Don't let your lack of formal qualifications affect your self esteem. Remember, you got the job on your merit and, more importantly, have retained it!
Will be thinking of you ........
Best of luck
Kay x
groovygranny
09-05-07, 21:34
Thanks Kay...thanks for reminding me we're butterflies.:flowers:
groovygranny
10-05-07, 06:55
Morning......
....woke much hthe same after very restless night, but gonna face today with as much determination as I can muster thanks to all of you.
I'm still thinking of avoidance tactics and excuses, but am trying to put those thoughts where they belong - in the bin. It's hard though when your mind is racing. Keep seing mtself running out of the meeting in front of everybody with all their heads turning to look at me.
Andrea, I just checked out that link - omg, that is so funny! I've already put a copy of Piglet's and Pip's tips in 'me 'ambeg although there are some words I won't be practicing much!
Thanks for listening - I'll try not to go on too much today
:flowers:
GG,
I was reading this thread and this jumped out at me
I feel such a wimp - and I've asked myself how can I reply to others when I'm not putting my own advice into practice for me? Seems almost two-faced somehow.
It don't work like that! I can give some advice that would be great if I could act upon it myself! You are not as emotionally tied with other people, ie their anx is not your anx and it is easier to have 20-20 vision when not looking at yourself. It is most certainly not two faced!
I actually think that being able to give advice to others is a strengthener. You may not be able to act upon your own advice initially, but like a positive affirmation, it weaves it's way into your mind and the way you think.
Like a previous poster said, come Friday evening you will be able to sit back with a glass of wine (make sure you have one in the chiller ready!) and breather a sigh of relief and of achievement.
Happyone
xx
Hi GG., I know you do good work and put everything into your Job.
Believe in yourself !
I too have the same doubts with my Job but we can only do our best.
You probably know more than the men in suits.
Todays pressures are great, there are so many people who have similar problems to us GG.
Go knock 'em for 6, bullshit if necessary, but hang on in there mate!!
Dave:flowers:
So what if you do run out of the meeting waving your hands in the air - you can tell them all you know a whole bunch of people who will join you if you like!!! Anyway its very 'in' this century - it's sort of the new black!! Sitting calmly is so last season darling!!!!
I keep thinking I'll do this one day but as I havent in 7 years I don't really think I'm gonna now but I will join you if you fancy it. Did you ever read my laying down on the pavement thread - I actually did lay down on the pavement to see what acting oddly would do and it's a total anticlimax hun!!!
I think I will stick to laying down in the corridor of my doctors surgery in front of the fish tank with people stepping over me - funny that was so public and I couldn't give a toss about it now!!:shades:
Go girlfriend (I must stop talking like that - the piglets hate it)!!
Love Piglet :flowers:
Hey there GG whats going on!!!! Now you know what you have to do right? Take all that negative energy and use it all up, bellydance, jog, turn up the music and dance, power walk........ (not all at the same time tho)!!!! When its all used up you will wonder what you were worried about!!!!
You can do it!!!
Love Pinky
groovygranny
10-05-07, 13:02
Aw Piglet, I remember the 'pavement' thread:).....the stop signs have been coming thick and fast this morning....along with these.....http://midmichiganrwa.org/running.gifhttp://www.eagleflight.org/cyberSermons/crazy_people.gif
Pinky, I forive you for writing in pink because it's your name........think I will try it all at once.......I'll try anything.............
.........wish it was tomorrow nite already....if only for the wine...
I luvs you lot.
:flowers:
You'll be fab!!
Last tip - be an actress for the day and act the way you want to be!!
Very last tip - don't plant bulbs upside down or you never get to see the flowers (that sounds like I mean something marvellously profound doesn't it but I don't, I literally did this one year and was most disappointed)!!!
:hugs:
Piglet :flowers:
groovygranny
10-05-07, 14:10
Er Dave,.....just been thinking mate.....GG doesn't usually bullshit so,...
....got any tips? :blush:
Seriously though thanks for the encouragement. As we're in the same boat you're right, we can only do our best - so I'll do it (and hope it's enough) x
Piglet, my little pink girlyfriend,I'm so very gald I'm not the only one who does daft things like that............:huh:
hmm,....19 hrs before I go into the lion's den.....just an observation..
xxxxx
BULLSHIT clears the air GG :) xx
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groovygranny
10-05-07, 20:34
Dave mate,thanks for that golden nugget of information (I think!) If I need to clear the air (or the building) I will remember your advice and make like a muck-spreader ok?
Update:
This evening is not too bad, just little jumpy twinges now and agian.....I'm convinced it's because of all the support I'm getting here. It's priceless.
If you don't all mind, I'll log on when I wake up........only a few hours to go then.
Thank you for being so patient with me.
:flowers:
:flowers: SENDING POSITIVE VIBES TO GG FOR HER BIG DAY!!!!!!
THANK CRUNCHIE ITS FRIDAY GRANNY...............!!!!! GLASS OF WINE TO CELEBRATE TONIGHT....... DONT FORGET TO REPORT BACK TONIGHT:hugs:
YOU GO GIRL:yesyes:
LOVE PINKY XXXXX
honeybee3939
10-05-07, 21:48
Hi GG
Just want to wish you lots of luck for tommo:yesyes: :yesyes: , im sure you will be fine!!
Good luck hun !!
Hugs
:hugs:
Andrea
xxxxxx
We'll all be here thinking of you tomorrow hun and willing you to drop those shoulders, unclench that jaw and to remember how proud we all are of you for facing something you don't fancy.
Big hugs:hugs:
Piglet :flowers:
looking4answers
11-05-07, 00:01
Geez you sound like me every day .. and for the writing .. yes it does make you feel better to write.. and someone to read.. just check how many post I have here .. so you can imagaine..Sorry about your day and well it will get better just hang in there we are all here for you ..Michael
groovygranny
11-05-07, 06:18
Hi all
Pinky, Andrea (thanks for the PM), Piglet and Michael (hi there)- your words mean so much at this ungodly hour - thank you.
Well, been awake since 5.00am and just about to get in relaxing bubble bath - and hope I don't fall asleep, as I didn't get much last night.
Just 4 hours til lift-off. Big colly-wobbles and shakes but then it's only natural to have some isn't it?
Have stopped trying to think of excuses now - even though I'm hanging on by the 'golden thread', Piglet.
You lot are truly amazing - so amazing that this 'ol wobbly granny is going to do her utmost to JFDI and get on with it.
PS: Resue Remedy for breakfast:blush:
:flowers:
Hi GG,
only just caught this thread as my wireless connection isnt letting me connect for some reason:weep: (can only get a connection during the day....odd...and annoying especially as I'm at work all day).
Dont know if you'll read this before you go but just wanted to wish you luck, not that you'll need it. I know you can do this cos you've got masses of guts and determination and this is just a bit of a wobble. You are obviously a very valued member of the team (or they wouldnt have you in the job) and I know you are great at your job :) .
Hope you enjoyed your bubble bath, remember your rescue remedy, go to your meeting , hold your head high, believe in yourself and think how good you'll feel when its all over.
Go for it girl......I'll be thinking of you!
loadsa luv Coni XX:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
GG
rescue remedy on toast, can't beat it! Stifles those colly wobbles big style.
You'll be fine, I have every faith.
happyone
xx
Will be checking in again later to see hear all about it.
Love Piglet :flowers:
All the best for today GG and sending positive vibes your way. Look forward to hearing how it went!
Eeby x
Paddington
11-05-07, 13:14
You can not gain a degree in empathy or compassion,nor in inspirational qualities!If you could you would have a double first:yesyes: Hope today was a success for you G.G.:yesyes: You are a wonderful woman and inspire me no end:flowers: Love Paddie.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
groovygranny
11-05-07, 15:48
OMG, you luvly people !!:yesyes:
I've just got back to school and guess wot?
I JFDI !!!!..............eventually....I had Rescue Remedy for breakfast and again about 20 times before I went! I arrived ten mins early so thought I've have a cup of tea......
.....GG spent at least three mins trying to put her money in before she realised it was free anyway:blush:!
Got chatting to a nice bloke who was extolling the virtues of tea bags as opposed to instant tea and thought "I hope I sit next to you, you seem nice!":winks: (yes, GG still has it!)
Had another three squirts of RR (yes they all hit the spot!) And opened the door of the room to go in.......:huh:
.....to find there were all blokes in there:ohmy:! Well, I looked to the back of the room and I swear I saw all of you there....so I took a deep breath and said...
"Good morning, when do the girlies arrive then?" :flowers:
Blank, miserable looks all round...and my newly found mate was sat on the end of a row next to two other blokes so no room at the Inn for GG!:weep:
No worries, I sat on the end of the row....the middle row...not at the back!....and waited for the seminar to start.
27 squirts of RR later the presenter walks in with three other women (yey, more girlies!).......and begins the seminar.
Well my luvly NMP mates, GG didn't have a ****ing clue wot he was going on about yet everyone else was nodding in agreement. :shrug:
The rollercoaster started up again and started to gather speed......I was hot, I was cold, sweaty palms, tingling.....I was going to run, run run.....:huh:
But I didn't ........
I put my hand up and said,
" I'm sorry. this is all going way over my head. I think it would be a better use of my time and yours if I went to the seminar next door, please excuse me!"
And I did!......I just got up, walked right down through the aisle of chairs tossing my soggy paper tea cup in the bin on the way (and it went in! Oh, I was just sooo cocky!) and went next door!!
And yes, it was much more productive.........had lunch and then the afternoon went without incident.........until I lost my way for a bit on the way back to school.......well, there were roadworks and traffic lights and filter lanes....but hey, I got here eventually!:winks:
I couldn't have done any of this without you lot....you inspired and encouraged me...thank you!
And thanks for my hugs Dave, and everyone:hugs:.......didn't have time to reply this morning before I had to leave, they were much appreciated!
There's a huuuuuge glass of wine with my name on it waiting for me......yum, yum!!:blush:
lots of love GG
:flowers:
WELL DONE
You did great, I hope you feel proud of yourself, cause I sure feel proud of you :hugs:
Enjoy your glass of wine you soooo deserve it
Love
Trac xxx
The girl done good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooooo sooooo sooooo proud of you - well done! :yesyes:
Love Piglet :flowers:
WooHoo ! you walked out of the Seminar and tossed your drink into the bin !!? :ohmy:
Wow GG, just like John Wayne would have done.
Did you have ya horse tethered outside? :D
yeeeeeeehaaaa !!!
D.x
Huge Well Done to ya me lovely GG I knew you could do it! I'm so very proud of you me hansome.http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_1.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB) X X X X
Take Care and enjoy your wine hun.http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_4_33.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm594YYGB)
Loadsa Love & Bigs Hugs,
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Pip's X X X X
GG,
that was fan blooming tastic!
I can just see you working your way out! That was just soooooooooooo cool!
I wish I wish I had your courage, I really do!
I remember having an interview and KNOWING I had screwed up by question 3 out of 10. I wish I had been able to get up and say 'you know and I know I haven't got this so why continue?' but I sat there and took it (the pain of certain rejection!) rather than doing what you did today and just walking out! That is simply amazing!
I am now going to have to put you up on a pedestal, you do realise that?
Happyone
xx
groovygranny
11-05-07, 16:33
Ooh no Happyone..........I'd only fall right off again !!:blush:
Dave thanks chum (I think!)......you suggesting GG's got bandy legs then? John Wayne had bandy legs!! :shades:
Pips me luvly Janner Mate - thank 'ee me 'ansome !!
Piglet and Trac - thanks for believing in me :hugs:
:flowers::flowers::flowers:
Oooops, no GG, don't think you have bandy legs:blush: xx
73
groovygranny
11-05-07, 16:57
Haha...well Dave, I think you've proved you're the real......
http://londonstimes.wickedmoon.com/LT_j/thumbnails/johnwayne.jpg
...........hmm, nice spurs !! x
:madness:
:yesyes: Enjoy your wine, I think you deserve an extra glass.
You are an inspiration to us all, well done:yesyes:
honeybee3939
11-05-07, 17:55
WELL DONE GG !!
http://fp.ymv13.plus.com/You're%20a%20Star.jpg
We all knew you could do it !!
Love
:hugs:
Andrea
xxxxx
Wow GG,
well done you...you certainly jfdi'd it.....and with such style!!
I knew you would!
Well done and enjoy that wine, you certainly deserve it!
luv Coni XX
:hugs: :yesyes: :hugs: :yesyes: :hugs: :yesyes:
groovygranny
11-05-07, 19:38
Hi Mingsy, Andrea Coni - :hugs:thank you!
Coni, NMP is a team too and that's what made it possible for me.
I know some there today would probably laugh at me for how I was so anxious about this, but to me it was like a great mountain I had to climb.
And all you lot were the oxygen I needed to make it to the top.:hugs:
Ahem, - PM me and I'll help fix your wireless connection if I can lol !!
:flowers:
Paddington
11-05-07, 19:50
:yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes: oh fab G.G.:hugs: You have been fabulous today..way to go girl:yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes: I was in that room hun,just reading about it..so proud of how you took control of the situation and did not bolt..marvellous:yesyes: love Paddie.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
:yesyes: Well done GG. It takes courage to stand up and move to another seminar. Your wings sound well and truly repaired!!
Kay x
groovygranny
12-05-07, 19:05
Thanks Paddie,
think it might have been a very different story without all the support!
Kay,
yep I think my wings served me well yesterday - just got to try and look after them now !!
:flowers:
hi GG.... well done hun... haven't been on here for a while and havent read all the thread but got the jist of it.... well done hun, you're an inspiration... :yesyes:
groovygranny
13-05-07, 18:06
Hi honeybee, long time no see!
Thank you!!
:hugs:
Tricky Tree
14-05-07, 19:11
Sorry GG, but Ive got to disagree with something you said.....
" I couldnt do it without you lot "
None of us were in the room with you - you did it yourself.
Give yourself credit for actually JFDI.
If you think about it, you were the bravest person in the room. Anyone suffering anxiety is - not only do you have to sit there and take in the information and contribute like everyone does - you also have the added task of doing it with the awful side effects that we endure.
I know Im too hard on myself - I think you are too GG.
I have the constant fear before and during the first few minutes of a meeting..........I had it again today. Thankfully the subject matter of what Im doing seems to redirect my thoughts and then Im ok.
Ive done loads of exams in my profession and Ive been with the same company for 18 years - yet the fear of being shown up / being inadequate seems to remain. You may still get these feelings if you had every qualification going.
Easy to give advice when Im not there yet myself, but reward yourself with your successes - you entered the lions den and survived it. Well done.
Oh and thanks for the PM directing me to this thread:)
groovygranny
14-05-07, 19:25
"Ive done loads of exams in my profession and Ive been with the same company for 18 years - yet the fear of being shown up / being inadequate seems to remain. You may still get these feelings if you had every qualification going."
I'm going to remember your words Tricky Tree.........
......for when I 'JFDI' the next time!
I guess we both have to ease up on ourselves eh? I will if you will ok?!
Well done you too for getting through today :yesyes:!
Thank you so much.
:flowers:
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