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helenhoo
29-07-17, 22:07
I am so so so convinced this mark on my arm is skin cancer. I have looked back through photos as far as I can go and its there in some but not in others. if the mark is covered by a jacket it seems to fade slightly. If i stretch skin around it disappears.

I saw a nurse at a walk in who used her otescope and said was just dry skin, on first layer of skin and seemed perplexed as to wht I was even bothered.

I'm certain of it . CertainI'll go doctors and he'll tell me I have months to live. I feel sick with fear.

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https://ibb.co/c7HwS5

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https://ibb.co/iHVN0Q

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I am in hell right now please

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ShaunRyder
29-07-17, 22:51
I am not 100% sure what I am looking at, but I cannot see anything sinister in the pictures, if it was something to worry about the nurse would of spotted it.

KK77
29-07-17, 23:04
There is nothing sinister looking in those images. Just moles/freckles.

Go to bed and don't be silly.

helenhoo
29-07-17, 23:15
there is a pink mark, the nurse really wasnt fussed but this pink mark still exists

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in the second image the mark halfway up is the pink mark.

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if I'm wearing a jacket and sneak at it it does seem to fade.

ShaunRyder
29-07-17, 23:18
The nurse would of spotted something sinister, she sees these things everyday and she would know the difference between skin cancer and dry skin.

axolotl
29-07-17, 23:19
One week to go till therapy. Hang in there. These threads are actually quite distressing to read now.

I hope you saved all the useful links people dug out for you in the last thread before you deleted it.

helenhoo
29-07-17, 23:24
https://ibb.co/kUFxH5 zoomed in but look, it's pink. She looked at me like I was ridiculous but these things go misdiagnosed and I'm scared .I'm one of those horror stories.

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if it was dry skin it'd helped with the creams I've used and it hasn't.

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Hence the reason I'm so scared. Could the hospital help if i went

axolotl
29-07-17, 23:25
What day and time is your first therapy session next week?

How are you feeling about therapy? Are you excitied to be getting help? Or apprehensive?

What do you think you'll get out of it?

helenhoo
29-07-17, 23:30
Wednesday afternoon.


Aotoxl I believe this is it. Pink mark for 7 weeks-ish.

axolotl
29-07-17, 23:32
Wednesday afternoon.


Aotoxl I believe this is it. Pink mark for 7 weeks-ish.

Nope, I'm not talking about that. And you know why.

Four days then. Not long now. You've got good waiting list times in your area, I'm still waiting.

How do you feel about therapy? Looking forward to it? Apprehensive? Confident? Sceptical?

helenhoo
29-07-17, 23:40
It was self referal then telephone call then assessment then appointment so 6 weeks I guess.


Have you looked at photo? I may go into walk in or hospital tomorrow

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bizzare but if i rub my finger over it back and forth it fades slightly.

axolotl
29-07-17, 23:48
It was self referal then telephone call then assessment then appointment so 6 weeks I guess.


Have you looked at photo? I may go into walk in or hospital tomorrow

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bizzare but if i rub my finger over it back and forth it fades slightly.

Hey six weeks is very good, I'm three months and counting.

I'm really looking forward to my CBT, time to kick this thing in the nuts. We've spent too long being sad and being distracted from things we should enjoy by daft made-up illnesses, haven't we? Time to start living properly.

Four days to go, till the start of getting past this thing. A big step, scary, but exciting surely?

helenhoo
29-07-17, 23:53
Wow you in the UK?

I'M excited but it's gone out window now I'm back focused on this.

axolotl
29-07-17, 23:59
Wow you in the UK?

I'M excited but it's gone out window now I'm back focused on this.

Totally depends on your local authority. Some are waiting many months.

Off to bed now but good luck on Weds, it's a big step and we're proud of you for making it. The start of good things if you stick with it, it's in your power to beat this thing.

KK77
30-07-17, 00:00
You have pale skin - you pick spots - they leave red marks. Simples.

Axolotl is trying to help but I fear he's just wasting his gill power...

The Good Lord could come down on his silver cloud and tell you not to worry and you'd still be taking images and posting on here :lac:

Elen
30-07-17, 06:03
Reb why have you removed your last thread? It had some useful tips and tons of the reassurance you are seeking.

ServerError
30-07-17, 06:09
Presumably so that this one couldn't be merged with it.

helenhoo
30-07-17, 10:15
I'm so sure though. So convinced. I feel sad when i remember. I'm going to go to the walk in today probably told to get doctors appointment because its so bad.

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I'm terrified

KK77
30-07-17, 12:01
I'm so sure though. So convinced. I feel sad when i remember. I'm going to go to the walk in today probably told to get doctors appointment because its so bad.

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I'm terrified

I thought you were going to walk-in clinic or A&E? What does your mum think about it all?

helenhoo
30-07-17, 13:28
I'm going walk in today. My family are annoyed but this is a pink mark and almenotic melanoma is pink marks. Nobody is home so even more scared to go walk in alone

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This. is. it

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Can i get virtual hand hold as i go into walk in please

Gary A
30-07-17, 13:32
Why would someone who is genuinely anxious delete a thread that was not getting any attention, only to start a new one up in order to tell everyone she was going to a walk in and at the same time declare that "this is it"?

It might just be me, but that screams drama. It screams attention. It screams bloody nonsense.

Can we assume that you're going to the walk in, will be told you're fine, then you'll be back here telling us that you're not remotely convinced by whoever it is that reassured you? Can we assume you'll be asking us questions like "would this person really know" and "are their torches bright enough?"

Can we also assume that this CBT appointment probably won't happen either? I've got to say, that's a mighty short time given that you self referred. Most of these referrals on the NHS take about 5-6 months, yours was 6 weeks? Impressive.

ServerError
30-07-17, 14:09
To be fair, my referral took about two weeks. Although I realise that's fairly exceptional.

helenhoo
30-07-17, 14:26
Walk in doctor said could be new freckle starting out or dry skin DOESN'T think its skin cancer but could go GP to see skin specialist and have jt scrapped which to means shes unsure.

Cakelady
30-07-17, 14:26
If you do go to see someone, please please please believe them. ( but I'm not saying you should go!) You need to get your mind of this thing for your own good.
I didn't wait more than a few weeks for cbt & having good support is making a difference for me. Hope it works for you really do x

KK77
30-07-17, 14:28
Walk in doctor said could be new freckle starting out or dry skin DOESN'T think its skin cancer but could go GP to see skin specialist and have jt scrapped which to means shes unsure.

You mean it's NOTHING serious?

*Collapses* :lac:

helenhoo
30-07-17, 14:33
New freckles start out pink though?! Skin specialist scares me

ServerError
30-07-17, 14:44
That's what happens when you go to walk-in and they don't know anything about your background. They end up saying things that don't help.

At the end of the day, only you can decide what you do next.

ShaunRyder
30-07-17, 15:03
Walk in doctor said could be new freckle starting out or dry skin DOESN'T think its skin cancer but could go GP to see skin specialist and have jt scrapped which to means shes unsure.

Nurse and doctor both mentioned dy skin and was not concerned of skin cancer. Has this made you feel better now?

helenhoo
30-07-17, 15:06
but it literally doesn't look dry though. If it did i wouldn't have reason for concern.

MyNameIsTerry
30-07-17, 15:37
So, where are you now?

Obsession scares you, you are Googling stuff that states even doctors struggle to spot this condition, yet believe you definately have it. Seek reassurance on here. That fails as it always will. Driven to need reassurance from a medical professional. This fails, as it does in your cycle as your reassurance is minimal or non existent at this stage. Now back to doubt.

What could you do to calm the cycle down and give your anxious mind a break from symptoms? The first thing is to get doing things that occupy your mind for hours, some healthy activity, or get doing the mundane to burn adrenaline off (cleaning tends to help me). You could get on internet and use some relaxation techniques to to try bring your anxiety levels down and calm your mind.

Reassurance doesn't work. In OCD, compulsions are supposed to reduce anxiety but that's not always the case as I often found out and as have plenty on here have. You just get more tense & frustrated by it all.

Try to break the chain, at least for a while. All the things we are saying, you are going to start hearing from a therapist soon. But only you can do them and early on it's about doing them whilst getting little or no benefit, as many of us will have found, but the alternative is not to get better so you have to have faith in it and try.

axolotl
30-07-17, 15:39
I'm going walk in today. My family are annoyed but this is a pink mark and almenotic melanoma is pink marks. Nobody is home so even more scared to go walk in alone

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This. is. it

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Can i get virtual hand hold as i go into walk in please

You know the reaction you get when you play dumb, because no-one here thinks you are. You know you won't get a "virtual hand hold" for wasting your and a doctor's time yet again, on something you know deep down is precisely as real as your brain tumour, and schizophrenia, and toxoplasmosis, and colon cancer (etc). You know it is irresponsible for us to condone, encourage or support your reassurance behaviour, and you know why.

You will get a "virtual hand hold", if that's what you want to call it, for the therapy on Wednesday as that is the doctor's appointment that you need and is long overdue. But in the meantime we will give your anxious thoughts the respect they deserve and either ignore them or give them a good kicking.

Capercrohnj
30-07-17, 15:56
Why did you delete your other thread to start an identical new one?

helenhoo
30-07-17, 15:58
That's second opinion and i said if wasn't so anxious whay would she say she said keep eye on it but she thinks it's a new freckle starting out (seriously, new pink freckles anyone relate) I said do you yhink it's skin cancer she said she can't say but that no she doesn't and FOR MY piece of mind to see a GP for skin specialist

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My mom shoted at me (despite being in mu mid 20s) for going walk in. I rang her for support.

ShaunRyder
30-07-17, 16:34
Helen, like others have mentioned have you thought about getting a hobby?

I started making videos and writing in the last year and it has helped my anxiety massively. I also started getting back into fitness, going to the gym, running and just even long walks, really calms me down.

MyNameIsTerry
30-07-17, 16:38
If she thought it was skin cancer, would she let you walk out? It wouldn't be for piece of mind that she said you could ask your GP, she would be telling you that you have to visit your GP because there is a concern that needs checking out.

It takes ages to see a dermatologist through the NHS. If you go on the non urgent list you can be waiting months even with a valid skin complaint after your GP has spent months trying to treat it.

But if anyone ever suspects cancer, you go fast track and get seen very quickly and many go even though GP's aren't sure or think it isn't, so they can rule out and cover their backs. So, if they don't see a need, that tends to tell you something.

helenhoo
30-07-17, 16:49
She said loke a 2 week waiting list and they'd tell me there and then but did say it was for piece of mind but didn't think it was skin cancer. She didn't seem concered st all.

NervUs
30-07-17, 17:15
She said loke a 2 week waiting list and they'd tell me there and then but did say it was for piece of mind but didn't think it was skin cancer. She didn't seem concered st all.

The pics don't look anything like amelanotic melanoma, but I know what it's like to have a lot of marks on your skin. I am very fair, and have gunk everywhere. Very rarely, I will get a panic moment but mostly have learned to live with them.

I am glad you are entering therapy but, in the meantime, can you come up with some strategies for learning to accept pigment on your skin? Maybe once a month skin checks then not looking in between, deciding to monitor for change rather than run to the doctor, things like that? HA gets its fuel from us giving into every little moment of panic or intrusive thought our brains want to latch onto. Coming up with some strategy can deprive your brain of the panic it craves (yes, it craves it) can break the cycle. At least it can't hurt.

helenhoo
30-07-17, 17:49
Thanks NervUs I'm trying so hard to let it go but its so eady to see and check being on my forearm. If it was my back somewhere I couldn't check often Id get over it easier.

If its new freckle why does it fade/blanch - she told me to stop poking and rubbing it. If its dry skin why aren't eczema cream working. I've worked self into panic and I'm still dissatisfied. Does this look like skin cancer? No. Twice. Two professionals.


Ugh.

pulisa
30-07-17, 17:55
Why "ugh" ?

NervUs
30-07-17, 17:58
Thanks NervUs I'm trying so hard to let it go but its so eady to see and check being on my forearm. If it was my back somewhere I couldn't check often Id get over it easier.

If its new freckle why does it fade/blanch - she told me to stop poking and rubbing it. If its dry skin why aren't eczema cream working. I've worked self into panic and I'm still dissatisfied. Does this look like skin cancer? No. Twice. Two professionals.


Ugh.

Can you put a band aid over it and forget it that way??

There is no way of knowing what blanching means!!! I know this because I am the queen of blanching spots, then googling furiously about the significance of blanching. Bottom line: it signals NOTHING!

The lousy fact of all of this is we have minds that can't accept the information we're told and are seeking out the worst case scenario in the presence or absence of evidence, it doesn't matter to us.

All I can say, in your shoes, I would put a bandaid over it and not look again for a month to see if it's still there, or if it looks bigger or a different color. I am positive yours will either not be there or will be unchanged. But, you need to do SOMETHING to stop obsessing about this spot, leave it alone, and take away the power you've give it over your life!

Capercrohnj
30-07-17, 18:51
Thanks NervUs I'm trying so hard to let it go but its so eady to see and check being on my forearm. If it was my back somewhere I couldn't check often Id get over it easier.

If its new freckle why does it fade/blanch - she told me to stop poking and rubbing it. If its dry skin why aren't eczema cream working. I've worked self into panic and I'm still dissatisfied. Does this look like skin cancer? No. Twice. Two professionals.


Ugh.

If you are continually irrirating it by poking and rubbing it how do you ever expect it to go away? I saw nothing to be concerned about at all in your picture.

ShaunRyder
30-07-17, 18:53
Does this look like skin cancer? No. Twice. Two professionals.


You have just answered your own question. You. Are. Fine.

Gary A
30-07-17, 20:06
Why did you delete your other thread? You've been asked this question about five times now and you haven't answered. Why not?

As ever, this apparently terrified person finds a way to manipulate things in order to get the attention she so clearly craves. A lot of people put a lot of time into giving you answers and posting links in that thread, yet you just delete it and start again?

You are literally the biggest ignoramous I've ever had the misfortune of encountering, online or in real life. Selfish, manipulative, ignorant and attention hungry.

Pathetic stuff, it really is.

Pipkin
30-07-17, 20:49
Helen,

You know the answer to this - go and seek help for your anxiety. I can't comment on your current symptoms because I'm not a doctor but I'd have a good guess that your symptoms are part of your ongoing health anxiety. I.e, there's nothing to worry about, as always. I know it's incredibly difficult but you need to work really, really hard on correcting the way you think. CBT could help...

As this thread is similar to your last and it clearly isn't being used by members to support you, I am closing it to prevent more aggravation.

Pip