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Carnation
26-11-17, 00:10
I was not sure to post this for fear of frightening answers or being told to go to a GP or hospital, but I can't get this out of my head.
"Head 'being the problem.
3 days ago, I came over very hot and flushed in the face, which is quite normal for me and my anxiety and possibly age. This time it was different.
I felt a bit dizzy, which is also common for me and after sitting down on the sofa, I felt even hotter and extremely flushed, so I rested my head to the back of the sofa, went very blurry eyed and a huge rush of dizziness in my head which seemed to make my head feel extremely heavy to the point of not being able to lift my head.
I was stuck like this for a good while and eventually managed to lie down, but my vision was affected to the point of hardly focussing.
I was so frightened to move that my O/H had to use a wheelchair to get me in to bed.
The whole experience has left me in fear of doing anything at all and staying bed in case this should happen again.
I have been trying to work out what it was without googling and I am scared to go to the docs, but wondered whether anyone else had experienced anything like this.
I had no chest pain and pounding heartbeat just this extreme dissiness as if I was going to pass out and worried it may happen again! It felt like I was going to die!

lior
26-11-17, 01:33
That does sound scary and overwhelming.

It's so unlikely that it's going to cause you a lot of harm.

Staying in bed is most likely not going to change whether or not it happens again.

What I would do is approach with curiosity. If it ever happens again - which it might not - listen carefully to your body and what it does. Write down the symptoms, and what was happening just before it happened.

A likely explanation was that it was a combination of a hot flush and something else - do you think it could have been a panic attack? Or a new kind of panic attack for you? It could also be related to not eating enough. When I'm low on iron and dehydrated I experience similar to what you describe, minus the hot flush.

I imagine the menopause to be a difficult transition. It's not beyond belief that it would trigger anxiety in you, in new ways. What do you think?

If it was something more threatening to your health, there would be something in you that would just KNOW, and you'd get yourself to a doctor.

o.c.d
26-11-17, 07:18
Hi. I've dealt with a certain type of dizziness (or more like a feeling of swaying or floating) for the past 5 years out of my life (I'm only 23 so it's definetly not age-related for me).

I read your post and that does sound terrible. I hope you'll get over it somehow.

The dizziness that I'm dealing with (on a day-to-day basis now) is like I'm on a boat.
The ground beneath me feels like it's moving.
So it feels like I'm on a unsteady surface whether I'm standing, lying, sitting or whatever.

I've come to the conclusion that this is all related to anxiety for me. So that leads me to assume that your dizziness could also be an symptom of stress or anxiety.

I am no doctor and by any means I do not pretend to be one. This is all coming from my experience of dizziness/swaying.

There's a possibility that it could be ear-related too. Since I don't believe there's anything wrong with my heart either or more so with blood pressure, it basically rules out everything except some sort of ear-related problem and anxiety.

I've gone to the doctor multiple times this year and none of them could tell me what this swayingness of mine was.
Not a single doctor (in public and private healthcare) even understood what I was going trough.
They disregarded my explanation of these symptoms like it was a joke.
Although I feel like at private healthcare they even tried to understand but they just didn't. And it just felt completely pointless to argue with them because they just didn't listen.

So what they end up doing every time is that they check my heart rate. It's a bit fast because I'm at the doctors and I'm nervous of the social interaction. They tell to eat something salty like pickles (which feels like a bit of an insult at that point) and send me to home.

So I'm not going to the doctors this week or the next one. But perhaps I should go check out my ears at some point in the near future. If anything comes up I'll post it up here for peers to know.

But right now I think that my dizziness is caused by my anxiety which is really high at the moment.

You and many other people I've read about online described that the feeling of dizziness is in your head or that you feel it around that area.
I think I've never felt it in my head (more like my whole body is affected by the dizziness) which leads me to believe that my symptoms can differ from yours.

But atleast it has somewhat similar qualities to it.
I dont know will this reply help you at all but I hope it does.

I posted a thread here about my symptoms so if you want check that out too. Hope you'll feel better!

I've also had to be in a wheelchair back in 2012 or '13 because of my extreme dizziness so I can relate on some level.
The chair was used for about a day but it was really needed at that point.

Carnation
26-11-17, 11:38
Thank you both for being careful with your replies, knowing how scared I am and my fear of Docs and hospitals. I can say that I had other symptoms accompanying my funny dizzy/heavy head which left me lodged on the sofa for at least 20 minutes, maybe longer.
My stomach was crazily gurgling for some time. I felt a little adrenalin, but mostly muscle contractions and internal shivering which left me cold and clammy later.
I had no headache, no chest pain and no heart palpatations.
Now, my mind/body is on full alert and as a result, my anxiety is full-on.
I normally have the being on a boat or going round a merrygoround sensation on a daily basis, which is anxiety, because I have it for more than 3 years. Mainly when I am stressed, tired or anxious.
The day I had this attack, I had hardly any sleep, not too much to eat and had just eaten a banana half an hour before it happened. Also, a tremendous amount of stress with my partner's mum who was violently sick all day.
But, I have experienced anything as bad as that which felt like I was living my last moments of life.
Thankfully I am still here, but left wondering what it was, why it happened and is it likely to happen again?!

lior
26-11-17, 12:42
Panic attacks are known to feel like you're about to die.
Not eating enough is known to make you feel dizzy... and to cause stomach gurgles :)
Not sleeping enough means people get more hungry in order to get up the energy that they missed out on recouping from the lack of sleep. So that may mean you were much more hungry than you normally would be.
I know that if I don't sleep enough, I have cold/flu symptoms, so maybe it can make you feel more cold?

All your symptoms can be reasonably explained as a combination of stress and anxiety, not eating enough, and not sleeping enough. Stress exacerbates any problems you already have, so if you naturally have weaknesses in your body, it's going to highlight them.

Sorry to hear about your partner's mum - is she better now?

Are you feeling better today?

Can you resolve to look after yourself as best as possible, to avoid it happening again? De-stressing exercises, eating enough, sleeping plenty.

Carnation
26-11-17, 12:55
Thank you Lior. x
You said exactly what my partner said.
But you know that thing the 'Brain'! Wants to tell us much, much worse!
I am being very cautious atm. Stomach still suffering and taking things very eady.
Hey, I was half way through decorating the Christmas tree!
Poor partner looking after two of us at the mo.
I'm walking around as if the 'Grim Reaper' is sitting on my shoulders wondering if I will even make Christmad?!

MyNameIsTerry
26-11-17, 13:12
Hi Carnation,

I agree with lior, I think she's right about this.

You've got quite a lot of panic attack criteria going on in there. And there is the issue of drops in blood sugar and poor sleep that set the stage for often a poor day, lessening our natural defences against our symptoms and our ability to cope when we get hit by such a thing.

Weird symptoms can jump out of the blue and they are triggering, especially ones we haven't had before. I've had so many "weird heads" and I've found that the weirdest will come when I have my adrenaline spikes from this med. I just feel quite odd and I loathe it but these days just push through it as it's part of my cycle now.

Having some rest and getting food & drink is needed. Whether it happens again, you can never say but it may equally never happen again as it's a first so far. Unless it's serious enough to warrant immediate attention or a pattern that emerges, it's very likely going to be one of anxiety's may weapons it uses to annoy us with.

Xmas tree decorating - enjoyable to some, rows to others! :biggrin: We've termed our Xmas decs day "the annual family row" as I can immediately know which day it is by hearing the shouting over where it went last year, who's doing what wrong and not listening, etc. We all laugh about it. So, if you can also find somewhere in your symptoms list a sudden urge to insert said Xmas tree up somewhere in MrC then...:winks:

I hope you feel better soon and I hope MrC's mum is feeling better too. :hugs: Try to apply your tools, calm down as much as you can, but rest up and when you feel up to it start doing some smaller things to get your confidence back without overwhelming yourself (if your brain allows you to, I know how you want to do everything for everyone).

We had our first snow of the Winter yesterday! I went out early morning to do some shopping and saw something you would have loved, 2 women were leading 4 reindeer into a pen in the shopping precinct for the kids to pet. They were beautiful, smallish, grey ones. Just happily munching on some hay with an ever bigger crowd massing around them. Perfect weather for Rudolph!

Smileys to cheer you up http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07017.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07015.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07093.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=4)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07095.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=4)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07117.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=5)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07170.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=7)http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07217.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=9)

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I know you like to dance & have a glass of wine...http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/christmas/t07206.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-christmas.php?page=9)

(I'm not sure what Rudolph is doing to Santa above by the way, he may be waking him up or...:blush::winks::noangel:)

Elen
26-11-17, 13:26
Hi Carnation

I agree with the others, sounds like a combination of stress, lack of sleep and low blood sugar.

I know you are a very caring person but you MUST take time out to look after you too.

Enjoy your decoration day

Carnation
26-11-17, 15:00
Thanks Terry. you know how I have to look after everything.
Now I feel useless. I am going to do just that, small tasks, plenty of rest and regular meals.
I'be had dizzy moments before, but this one felt like I was half way in to a coma!
Just could not move my head for nearly half an hour and dizzy head for good hour.
I think sugars were on the low side, but attack came on from excessive heat build up inside of me, but my heart felt amazingly fine. Loads of gas from both ends. I know, tmi. But they were the symptoms, not forgetting the blurry vision.
I was being so dramatic shouting out that I was too young to die and all sorts.
Mr C was reassuring me that I was going to be ok and he thought there was no call for an ambulance or Doc. I think I actually asked him to call someone at some point, which is very unlike me.
I had a nightmare that night too.
Strange thing was it did feel like a bucket load of adrenalin was swimming around in my head and the next day I had a twitching face.
Back to meditation I suppose. Stupidly stopped doing it as well as resting.

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Thanks Terry. you know how I have to look after everything.
Now I feel useless. I am going to do just that, small tasks, plenty of rest and regular meals.
I'be had dizzy moments before, but this one felt like I was half way in to a coma!
Just could not move my head for nearly half an hour and dizzy head for good hour.
I think sugars were on the low side, but attack came on from excessive heat build up inside of me, but my heart felt amazingly fine. Loads of gas from both ends. I know, tmi. But they were the symptoms, not forgetting the blurry vision.
I was being so dramatic shouting out that I was too young to die and all sorts.
Mr C was reassuring me that I was going to be ok and he thought there was no call for an ambulance or Doc. I think I actually asked him to call someone at some point, which is very unlike me.
I had a nightmare that night too.
Strange thing was it did feel like a bucket load of adrenalin was swimming around in my head and the next day I had a twitching face.
Back to meditation I suppose. Stupidly stopped doing it as well as resting.

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Thanks Elen x

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Yes, I wondered that about Rudolph Terry. :blush:

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Yes, I wondered that about Rudolph Terry. :blush:

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I jusr managed to get myself dressed and take a half an hour walk.
No dizziness and I even tipped my head back to look the top of a fir tree.
That's a huge smile from me. :)

swgrl09
26-11-17, 15:11
I've had this happen a lot recently actually due to low blood pressure. For me, I try to drink a lot of water, but also get enough salt too. Don't get up too quickly when sitting or laying down. Stress and panic make it worse for me! It feels scary but is usually harmless.

Carnation
26-11-17, 16:13
Hi swgrl,

I wondered about low blood pressure, but I tend to be high rather than low.
Saying that, my bp can jump all over the place.
I had my bp taken by the GP with a reading of 165, because she scares me and then took it in reception with a reading of 135. :huh:

The worst thing for anxiety sufferers when you have scare like this is the effect on anxiety itself. We live on high alert of something bad happening and when something does happen, it tends to prove you right.
BUT. The 'something' normally happens when you are not prepared or least expecting it to. Then you spend the rest of time figuring out what happened, why it happened and how you can prevent it from happening again.

MyNameIsTerry
26-11-17, 16:14
He's more a Rude-olph :winks:

Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better. No over doing it :nicked:

With my funny heads it has often been a dip in sugar/maybe blood pressure as I find a snack & drink can help. Like when you give blood and it can give you a turn. Or it's big meals or certain types of meals at times that make me feel a bit odd.

I think it's caught you by surprise and headed into panic attack country. Panic attacks aren't all heart thumpers, some people go into the DP/DR states where they feel more out of it. Maybe that it closer to it? I used to have anxiety attacks according to my GP when I started off with all this and it was like everything around me went fuzzy and sounds dulled, probably a bit of DP/DR kicking in.

It sounds very unpleasant. Like you say, we spend time trying to find out the cause when sometimes these things just happen. It could just be your body telling you to relax a bit and anxiety just takes it to that whole new level.

Sunday, day of rest...and that includes you! Get MrC running around for you :whiplash::yesyes:

Carnation
26-11-17, 16:31
I had a funny head before this even happened Terry, if you know what I mean? :D

I was just discussing with Mr C about the fact that I was fully aware of everything going on. It didn't affect my speech or actions or thinking. Immediately it happened I asked for a glass a water, a biscuit and a cold flannel. (Would have got them myself, but my head was lodged against the back of the sofa!) Mr C said my head was almost thrown back.
I am now left with this excessive belching, the sort you get with bad anxiety.
I'm a real catch, aren't I? :D
Belching, farting, hot flushes, stomach gurgling, muscles twitching and currently walking around with a wet flannel on my forehead in fear of overheating again.

Poor Mr C has been making the meals and keeps running in and out showing me the contents of his saucepan and actually forgot to butter the toast this morning.

Magic
26-11-17, 16:35
Hi Carnation, Sorry about what is happening.
You have been under a lot of stress, and still going through it.
So do as the other members say. That's an order!!!!
:hugs::hugs::hugs:xxx

MyNameIsTerry
26-11-17, 16:38
You & me both then :biggrin:

Remember Mrs Doyle on Father Ted? And when she left them to make their own meal for once and they ended up hugging each other panicking with the kitchen bubbling over? That's the image I've got of MrC at the moment :biggrin:

My dad was like that when mum was ill as he decided to do it all. She owns the kitchen in an old fashioned way most of the time. He got shouted at a fair few times when she got frustrated :roflmao: I think she was glad to be back on her feet.

Belching, farting...sounds like an average date up this end of the country these days :biggrin: you'd be moaned at for having too many manners on Geordie Shore :winks:

Carnation
26-11-17, 16:47
Thanks Magic. x

I have missed you all soooo much.
So busy caring for others, forgot about me!! :doh:
Mr C says I don't have to wear the flannel on my head anymore.
It's become my new comfort blanket.
It certainly puts everything in to perspective when you think your number's up!

Magic
26-11-17, 20:30
Carnation, our bed is next to the bedroom window. Very close. I am right by the window side. I get out of the bed, the first thing I do is draw the curtains back and feel as though I am going through the window, sort of dizziness then I am ok really strange. Not a nice feeling. take care x

unicorndusy
26-11-17, 20:52
I get this sometimes when I start thinking and concentrating on the disease I think I have. I start feeling faint and sick and often need to sit down, sometimes if it's that bad especially at college I pretend to drop something under the table I am sitting at so I can put my head down to get the blood flow back. I often eat a lot of fruit and veggies at break times now so I won't faint or get the feeling. Funny thing is I have only fainted once in my life and it scared the living daylights out of me, so every time I get the visual disturbance or breathlessness I did before I panic which actually helps prevent myself from fainting due to my blood pressure rising. You're gonna be okay and one day you'll be free of this.

Peace and love

Buster70
26-11-17, 23:00
I had a funny head before this even happened Terry, if you know what I mean? :D

I was just discussing with Mr C about the fact that I was fully aware of everything going on. It didn't affect my speech or actions or thinking. Immediately it happened I asked for a glass a water, a biscuit and a cold flannel. (Would have got them myself, but my head was lodged against the back of the sofa!) Mr C said my head was almost thrown back.
I am now left with this excessive belching, the sort you get with bad anxiety.
I'm a real catch, aren't I? :D
Belching, farting, hot flushes, stomach gurgling, muscles twitching and currently walking around with a wet flannel on my forehead in fear of overheating again.

Poor Mr C has been making the meals and keeps running in and out showing me the contents of his saucepan and actually forgot to butter the toast this morning.
Carnation , you are still here alive and kicking , I really hope / think what happened is down to stress and anxiety , it makes us so hyper aware of any fluctuations in our bodies we go into meltdown if we feel the slightest change , a slight change in blood sugar then the heart rate follows then the breathing then we go into panic , I get it a lot where I think I can't move or a limb won't function, it's terrifying at the time then we just sit waiting for panic part 2 The return of panic :D
Hang in there , ps you might want to work on that dating profile , belching , farting , anxous flannel head , could you not start it with rich and end with GSOH :roflmao:

MyNameIsTerry
27-11-17, 02:35
Carnation, our bed is next to the bedroom window. Very close. I am right by the window side. I get out of the bed, the first thing I do is draw the curtains back and feel as though I am going through the window, sort of dizziness then I am ok really strange. Not a nice feeling. take care x

I bet that wakes your neighbours up with a smile too! :emot-prettywink:

Sounds like when you suddenly feel dizzy at the top of some stairs. :hugs:

Carnation
27-11-17, 09:48
This horrible experience has now caused my anxiety to be very active again.
The muscle twitches that I had not felt for months are more than prominent again, particuarly in my face and eye area. My head feels sore and it is only today that I feel I have full vision back.
I'm still walking around the house grabbing everything and my mobile phone is attached to me 24/7!!
I look like I haven't had sleep for a week, that's actually quite the norm for me.
Last night I burst in to tears, which strangely made me feel better.
I'm still very concerned that this was something more serious and everytime I get hot, it throws me in to panic! I"ve had dizzy spells and lightheaded before, but this was a very long period of what felt like a blood rush, blockage or imbalance in the brain.
I had a mini version of this in June, again starting with feeling extremely hot and over exerting myself.
My fear id high bp and if I go to the docs they will want to give me tablets which is not route I want to go as my bp is so up and down and watching my mum for years passing out, it scares the hell out of me.
Looks as though I am stuffed either way I go. :(

lior
27-11-17, 12:50
There are 2 small things that can help:
- writing like you're doing on here - self expression can help you figure out the roots of the problem. You've just written a fear about being like your mum. Maybe that's worth a bit more exploring.
- crying it out. Holding back the tears can make you emotionally implode and it will come out in other ways. Crying actually releases hormones to make you relax. Crying is good for you.

Carnation
27-11-17, 14:05
That's very good advice Lior. x
i do obsess about becoming like my mum, or fear of it. My dad too, because he had Parkinsons.
I went out today, but was good for nothing, panicking about everything! Too cold, have I eaten enough, are my eyes blurry, have I come out too soon? Panic, panic, panic, then bursting in to tears in the middle of the street. Then I felt better.

Crispy
27-11-17, 16:13
Hi,

I also suffer from dizziness which seems to go with a strange pressure like feeling in my head (not painful like a headache) which makes me feel off balanced and unsteady. I have also noticed something strange with my vision, I can see ok but sometimes the tone feels like am in a dreamland and not in reality (not sure if I have described this correctly).

Have been feeling like this for over a year and am due to see a neurologist in the new year if maybe they can help ? I seem to feel worse in environments where I am not happy (such as work where I don't like some of the people or busy places) feel very sorry for anyone with this as it makes getting through the working day a complete chore....

Carnation
27-11-17, 17:04
Yes Crispy, but this particular episode I definitly could not even stand, let alone walk. :(
The vision is like the effects of when someone mists the screen on one of those old films.

Crispy
27-11-17, 17:12
Hi Carnation,

Very good description of vision issues - this pretty much sums up the feeling.

I am very sorry to hear of your issues, sounds like a very severe kind of panic attack ? Easy to say to take it easy but very difficult in practice as who knows how the human brain and our sub-conscious works.

Carnation
27-11-17, 18:06
The problem IS the sub-concious mind. Difficult ti conttol, because it controls itself!
You have to somehow re-feed the brain with new information that will react in a good way with the body.
It's like a computer really. Trouble is that you can not erase the history, but you can re-program the thought process.
Like you say, they are places that are not comfortable to be in and there are reasons for that.

Magic
27-11-17, 19:36
I bet that wakes your neighbours up with a smile too! :emot-prettywink:

Sounds like when you suddenly feel dizzy at the top of some stairs. :hugs:

Not a pretty sight:scared15: I have this dream that I am falling down the stairs. Wakes me up Terry.:hugs:

swgrl09
27-11-17, 21:14
I had a funny head before this even happened Terry, if you know what I mean? :D

I was just discussing with Mr C about the fact that I was fully aware of everything going on. It didn't affect my speech or actions or thinking. Immediately it happened I asked for a glass a water, a biscuit and a cold flannel. (Would have got them myself, but my head was lodged against the back of the sofa!) Mr C said my head was almost thrown back.
I am now left with this excessive belching, the sort you get with bad anxiety.
I'm a real catch, aren't I? :D
Belching, farting, hot flushes, stomach gurgling, muscles twitching and currently walking around with a wet flannel on my forehead in fear of overheating again.

Poor Mr C has been making the meals and keeps running in and out showing me the contents of his saucepan and actually forgot to butter the toast this morning.

If it makes you feel any better, I have been a gas machine since being pregnant!! Holy hell! I can't stand up, sit down, bend over, squat, or change positions at all without farting, burping, or something! I feel really lovely lately, :roflmao:

swgrl09
02-12-17, 01:47
Just checking in, hope you are hanging in there. :hugs:

Carnation
02-12-17, 09:00
Thanks swgrl :hugs:

Hopefully I will benefit from some rest and freedom as partner's mum is going in for 2 weeks respite.
I'm still a bit shaky and so nervous atm.
I had a panic last night and of corse it ended in tears.
My mind keeps telling me stuff, I don't want to hear!

Hope you are doing ok. x

swgrl09
02-12-17, 13:21
Panic is horrible, isn't it? It feels like you are totally trapped and stuck in it. My therapist told me that when it gets really bad, to squeeze ice cubes. I had to use that technique recently and yes, it hurt really badly, but I was able to calm down after doing it on and off for a few minutes. Our minds really know how to rev us up...

I hope you can take some time to rest and do some self-care while she is gone. You need it :hugs:

Carnation
02-12-17, 18:12
My bad 'Incident', has caused me to panic more thsn usual.
I'm squirming in my seat if I have to sit still., panic if my stomach churns and mostly panic if I feel too hot.
Partner's mum is now in respite and hopegully we can both get some well earned rest and freedom!
I will remember the ice-cube tip. It might come in handy when I am stressing in the kitchen. x