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BikerMatt
24-01-18, 17:09
My worst nightmare has come true. After feeling like sh#t for 15 months and having to fight and push for everything with our wonderful non functioning NHS system, im waiting to have my gallbladder removed and have an outpatient appt with the surgical team 28/2. Two weeks ago i noticed a lump that i think i've had for a while above and to the right of my Woody Womb Pecker getting a lot larger turns out this is an inguinal hernia so i've now been referred for surgery with this also. I'm hoping and going to ask if they can do both at the same time.

As you can imagine my anxiety is in overdrive with what's coming up and i'm totally exhausted as it's taken 15 months of anxiety provoking fob off after fob off to get this far.

Anybody had any of these op's done?

Thanks

Clydesdale Epona
24-01-18, 17:45
My dad has had his gallbladder removed.

Its a very simple procedure and I defo wouldn't be too concerned :)

Hernia surgery also isn't known to be that invasive x

Buster70
24-01-18, 22:01
Wondered where you'd disappeared to , thought you'd got better and pulled the ladder up :D , A family member had his gallbladder out and he was in and out pretty quick and he had the complication of having had heart surgery a few years earlier but he was fine , now the other seems so common as soon as you said a lump near your chap I knew it would say hernia , three of my mates have had them and one was kind enough to go " look at this " and pull his trousers down an image I really wish I could un see , they all came out ok .
I'd be shi&@ing myself so I won't say don't worry you'll be ok , my partner has had so many ops and it's always me who worries more , I've wasted so much time worrying that she won't be ok but it makes no difference to the outcome and she has always got through.
Take care chap and hope it all goes ok .

pulisa
25-01-18, 08:43
Oh no-why has it taken all this time to diagnose you??!! I'm so sorry-I thought you were getting better.
The prospect of any op can be daunting, let alone 2,but they are both "routine" in the medical world and at least your surgeries can be planned as opposed to being emergency procedures.
Wishing you all the very best

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I've had 2 midline ventral hernia repairs (pregnancy related). Obviously not the same type as yours but you will have to be careful re lifting afterwards.

BikerMatt
25-01-18, 20:04
My dad has had his gallbladder removed.

Its a very simple procedure and I defo wouldn't be too concerned :)

Hernia surgery also isn't known to be that invasive x

Thanks. Yes if all goes well it's classed as day surgery these days and your probably out the sameday. It was once classed as major surgery but when you suffer from severe anxiety it's a whole different ball game.

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Wondered where you'd disappeared to , thought you'd got better and pulled the ladder up :D , A family member had his gallbladder out and he was in and out pretty quick and he had the complication of having had heart surgery a few years earlier but he was fine , now the other seems so common as soon as you said a lump near your chap I knew it would say hernia , three of my mates have had them and one was kind enough to go " look at this " and pull his trousers down an image I really wish I could un see , they all came out ok .
I'd be shi&@ing myself so I won't say don't worry you'll be ok , my partner has had so many ops and it's always me who worries more , I've wasted so much time worrying that she won't be ok but it makes no difference to the outcome and she has always got through.
Take care chap and hope it all goes ok .

Thanks Buster. How's your back?

Yep i'm sh#@ing myself. I've had four operations before i had anxiety and it was a breeze. The last one was 15 years ago when i had a node removed from my neck, they wanted to give me GA but i insisted on local as i knew i could pretty much leave straight away. Now it's all a different kettle of fish with anxiety with all the build up.

Don't worry i won't subject you and the forum to pictures of the one near my pecker!

Buster70
25-01-18, 21:17
Funny that anxiety will make absolutely every aspect of your life more difficult it's like have the wind against you all day every day , makes it even harder when you remeber how things used to be before you spilt coffee in your brain wiring :D
When you've had the hernia opp just do exactly the opposite to me with my back I haven't learnt as soon as it stopped hurting a bit ( it's never getting better the discs are worn out and cruchy ) I start lifting things that are clearly too heavy , put a 70s trail bike in my van alone with no ramp , pushed a 600 Honda up a plank into the van and yesterday I spent underneath in the piŁ&ing down rain laying in a puddle fixing the brakes and exhaust for the mot , today I'm walking round like an old man in agony .
If you don't take it easy after the opp you'll be having it done twice , you know the worrying about it is probably going to be worse than the actual opp :D

BikerMatt
25-01-18, 22:58
Oh no-why has it taken all this time to diagnose you??!! I'm so sorry-I thought you were getting better.
The prospect of any op can be daunting, let alone 2,but they are both "routine" in the medical world and at least your surgeries can be planned as opposed to being emergency procedures.
Wishing you all the very best

---------- Post added at 08:43 ---------- Previous post was at 08:40 ----------

I've had 2 midline ventral hernia repairs (pregnancy related). Obviously not the same type as yours but you will have to be careful re lifting afterwards.


Thanks for replying Pulisa, Well it's a bit of a long story but i'm sure i was palmed off and palmed off as i have ANXIETY on my records!
I questioned my GP and Consultant many many times if my gallbladder was the problem as many of my symptoms fitted. Afrer CT scan and ultrasound was assured my gallbladder wasn't the problem and Consultant wanted to discharge me i had to keep on and on at them asked for a HIDA scan was refused. I wanted a HIDA as i knew CT scans and ultrasounds arn't 100% accurate. I had to badger everybody whilst feeling so unwell told them all time and time again how ill i was feeling and really can't understand why i was NOT getting listened to.

End result i've never felt so ill with 24/7 nausea for nearly a year, stomach flank and rib pain for a year, upper back pain for 15 months, dark urine, light coloured poops and generally feeling i've been hit by a bus for 15 months.Took GP 3 months to refer me. Consultant after CT and ultrasound wanted to discharge me. I've lost 8 stone.

In the end i phoned up the Consultant again and said i want another ultrasound in the hope it showed something which he reluctantly did, luckily it showed my gallbladder wall is thickened.

I was made to feel it was all in my head even though i complained time and again how ill i was feeling and i even cried at one appt. One GP tried to give me an quatiapine, one GP went on about phycosomatic pain, one GP told my CT scans were the gold standard for gallbladder and i know they arn't, My GP only referred me to the Consultant saying it's not my gallbladder but will refer me for my piece mind i could have punched him in the face as he may aswell of said i will refer you but nothings wrong with you in my eyes. My Consultant appt was changed to the urgent 2 week as i lost another 2 stone in 3 weeks., all the consultant ever talked about was he was asked to investigate my weight loss did he do that properly? NO!

I have everything thats been said written down and will be taking it further when it's all over. I missed my little boys nursery graduation ceremony and first day at school. I would take him out everyday, bath him and get him ready for bed everyday and i've felt that bad i've not been able to.

AND THATS THE SHORT REPLY lol

pulisa
26-01-18, 14:13
I am so sorry. That is an absolutely appalling catalogue of errors. The significant weight loss alone must have been a red flag. Once you have "anxiety" on your records some doctors just write you off-it's lazy and unprofessional but you had all the symptoms and still you were ignored..At least you will finally get some resolution now although this won't be the end of it and you can demand a full enquiry into the incompetence once you have had the surgery.

BikerMatt
26-01-18, 16:36
I am so sorry. That is an absolutely appalling catalogue of errors. The significant weight loss alone must have been a red flag. Once you have "anxiety" on your records some doctors just write you off-it's lazy and unprofessional but you had all the symptoms and still you were ignored..At least you will finally get some resolution now although this won't be the end of it and you can demand a full enquiry into the incompetence once you have had the surgery.

Thanks Pulisa, Even if i suffered from health anxiety (which i don't) when i was complaining of feeling so unwell and in pain i should have been treated seriously. My reply to you was just scurting round the edges of the entire saga and you wouldn't believe what's gone on.

The next part of the saga is i was having dizzy spells all throughout 2017 until the end of July when it became 24/7 non stop which i still have and it's 26 weeks today. I was ambulanced to A&E because of this and face numbness, freezing cold feet, hands and all my other symptoms on top. I left A&E after 6 hrs and was advised my GP would be told to do an urgent referral to see a vascular surgeon. Well i phoned my GP after a week and he hadn't heard from A&E but a week later he had. He said he would do the referral and a couple of days later i got one of these stupid e-referral forms were you book it yourself and it's non urgent when he was told it should be urgent! The 1st appt 4 months! So i phoned my GP and he'd gone on holiday for 2 weeks. It took weeks of non returned phone calls and every balls up under the sun and i eventually had my vascular tests and Consultant appt all on the same day after 10 weeks, yes 10 weeks after A&E said it should be urgent! It wasn't the vascular departments fault and they and the Consultant were great. Everything was normal but the Consultant said it would be a good idea to see a neurologist. I spoke to my GP and he referred me and after 7 weeks of not hearing anything i phoned my GP again who told me it shouldn't be to much longer and asked me to phone the hospital, should i be doing this?! I did and was told it's a 29 week wait as they only have 1 neurologist! That's 7 bloody months! Takes it up to the start of June! I've spoken to my GP so many and he's totally unwilling to speed it up or help me!

I'm going to Sue my GP and the gastro Consultant. I've lost 15 months of my life so far! It's just aswell i'm not working at the mo because i couldn't anyway!

Sorry for the rant!

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Funny that anxiety will make absolutely every aspect of your life more difficult it's like have the wind against you all day every day , makes it even harder when you remeber how things used to be before you spilt coffee in your brain wiring :D
When you've had the hernia opp just do exactly the opposite to me with my back I haven't learnt as soon as it stopped hurting a bit ( it's never getting better the discs are worn out and cruchy ) I start lifting things that are clearly too heavy , put a 70s trail bike in my van alone with no ramp , pushed a 600 Honda up a plank into the van and yesterday I spent underneath in the piŁ&ing down rain laying in a puddle fixing the brakes and exhaust for the mot , today I'm walking round like an old man in agony .
If you don't take it easy after the opp you'll be having it done twice , you know the worrying about it is probably going to be worse than the actual opp :D

Yes we never learn do we! Oh it feels a little better today i will do this and bang it goes again!

So is your job with bikes?

Buster70
26-01-18, 22:16
First of all WTF ! 8 Stone I know you'd lost a lot before and you were a big chap but there must be nothing left on you , but I suppose that s a good thing going in for an op and when all this is done and you are back to good health you will be fitter for your lad to make up for the time you've lost .
Doctors missing things and misdiagnosing is one of my big worries , they messed up and my dad paid the ultimate price which made me very angry for many years and we tried to take the doctor to court ( not easy back then ) but when my daughter took an overdose and we were told she wouldn't make it they looked after her and brought her back from deaths door so you can't stay mad , sometimes they get it wrong which is not helped by a screen telling them you have anxiety , people with anxiety still get ill they should know that and not just write it off as anxiety , I worry every day that my wheezing and shortness of breath is more than asthma and anxiety but now they just suggest mental health and show me the door .
I work for myself always have ( I'm too unreliable to be employed ) , I used to restore classic cars and bikes ,now it's more vintage bicycles and the odd motorbike , the heavy stuff is just killing me , if it's old dirty and rusty I'm interested.:)

BikerMatt
29-01-18, 22:10
First of all WTF ! 8 Stone I know you'd lost a lot before and you were a big chap but there must be nothing left on you , but I suppose that s a good thing going in for an op and when all this is done and you are back to good health you will be fitter for your lad to make up for the time you've lost .
Doctors missing things and misdiagnosing is one of my big worries , they messed up and my dad paid the ultimate price which made me very angry for many years and we tried to take the doctor to court ( not easy back then ) but when my daughter took an overdose and we were told she wouldn't make it they looked after her and brought her back from deaths door so you can't stay mad , sometimes they get it wrong which is not helped by a screen telling them you have anxiety , people with anxiety still get ill they should know that and not just write it off as anxiety , I worry every day that my wheezing and shortness of breath is more than asthma and anxiety but now they just suggest mental health and show me the door .
I work for myself always have ( I'm too unreliable to be employed ) , I used to restore classic cars and bikes ,now it's more vintage bicycles and the odd motorbike , the heavy stuff is just killing me , if it's old dirty and rusty I'm interested.:)

I remember when you posted about your Daughter and i'm so glad she got through! About 6/7 years ago i had been fishing until 3am and when i got back to my car i could see a car parked at the far end of the carpark, when i drove off i could see the door was open and i could see something laying next to it, i turned round and it was a young lady who had taken an overdose. I phoned 999 and did to her what was instructed over the phone whilst waiting for the ambulance. Luckily she survived. I managed to keep track of how she was doing as the owners wife of the fishing tackle shop is a nurse in the intensive care unit. Sorry to read about your Dad the NHS just seems so hit and miss.

I'm like you i've worked for myself since i was 22 and no way could i work for somebody else. My last job i worked for a company but on a self employed basis and thats the closest i will get.

Yep i've gone from 22 stone to 14. I'm 6ft 6 so even though i was a little over weight i never looked it. Don't think i've been 14 stone since i was about 16!

Buster70
29-01-18, 22:53
Fishermen and dog walkers most likely people to find bodies im the latter , I've been through it three times coming home to my daughter and twice to my partner it does make me feel scared to leave the house at times but I have to , it's hard when you feel like you have no control over life which I guess you feel like and have since you got ill, life is bloody unpredictable.
I don't want you to think my dad died in some operation because I know you are worried about yours , he didn't get that far , he was wrongly diagnosed with a chest infection and died the next morning had he been admitted he probably would have survived , if they know what the problem is you get looked after .
My problem with working for myself was doing work for the wrong people , doing work for the outlaws and drug dealers meant I'd stress about their cars or bikes getting nicked and me owing them , I've long since cut myself off from that life but life is still a big stress , think I'll try living in the woods in a tent :D

BikerMatt
31-01-18, 17:16
Fishermen and dog walkers most likely people to find bodies im the latter , I've been through it three times coming home to my daughter and twice to my partner it does make me feel scared to leave the house at times but I have to , it's hard when you feel like you have no control over life which I guess you feel like and have since you got ill, life is bloody unpredictable.
I don't want you to think my dad died in some operation because I know you are worried about yours , he didn't get that far , he was wrongly diagnosed with a chest infection and died the next morning had he been admitted he probably would have survived , if they know what the problem is you get looked after .
My problem with working for myself was doing work for the wrong people , doing work for the outlaws and drug dealers meant I'd stress about their cars or bikes getting nicked and me owing them , I've long since cut myself off from that life but life is still a big stress , think I'll try living in the woods in a tent :D


Sh#t Buster you've really been through it with your daughter and partner.

Yes i'm dreading it all and just hate hospitals. It's not helped by how long it's all going to take to get to that point. I'm meeting a surgical team person 4 weeks today, then a pre-op i pressume. My hospital now has this stupid admissions lounge when everybody having surgery that day turns up and all sit in a room together waiting, that's pretty inpersonal whilst sh#ting yourself.

I live very close to the local drug dealer. He drives round in a 60 grand Range Rover, covered in bling. I just want to knock him out!

Tent in the woods like it! Not a bad idea!

Buster70
31-01-18, 22:01
When I went for my MRI they left me in the waiting area for so long it closed down and all the staff went home at half seven , by the time I went in I was so worked up I couldn't read the consent form everything else was a blur , sounds pathetic doesn't it , it makes no sense at all , I'm trying to give up doctors oh and cake .
Funnily enough the drug dealer I used to restore cars for got sectioned while I had a Porsche of his I was thinking if he kills himself win win , he didn't so I had to finish the car , his mates are all locked up for life they were on the news a lot at the time , all that bling gets them caught eventually they never know when to quit greedy fu&@ers .
Come spring you'll be done and getting better rather than worse .
Take care .:D

BikerMatt
04-02-18, 18:24
That's a shame you nearly got a Porsche and society nearly had one less drain on it!

Totally understand with your MRI the hospital environment with anxiety is not nice. My hospital is like walking through a shopping centre at Christmas, it's that busy!

Yes hope to be sorted by the Spring. I suppose i will find out on the 28th how long the waiting time for the op's are.

Cheers