View Full Version : A hard movable lump in lip ?
jaroslav.prossv
01-05-18, 17:45
Hey, I am a 19 year old hypochondiac, and I think that this time I am right, I think I have adenoid cystic carcinoma, which means I ll die in like 10 years..Why ? There is a little 3x4 mm lump under my skin on my lower lip, which has been there for about 3 yeras and has not changed size, it is very firm (so no a mucocele or a lipoma) and can be moved or rolled around an area of about 1x1 cm. It is not attached to anything except a little tail which goes down from it deep into the lip. Any idea ? Could this actually be a fibroma ? I do bite my lips often and did have some trauma to my lower lips in the past (braces and stuff). I am going to the docs. tomorow but I am freaked out like hell, anyone knows what it could be ?
I think that this cancer will very nicely finish my hypochondiratic life, because this is actually the only symptom I have been ignoring for this time, because I was sure it is fibroma, however I decided to do more research at it looks so much more as the cancer. Its funny, the incidence or the cancer is like 1 in 200000, but only 60% of these happen in minor salivary glands, and only like 0.3-3% of those are on lower lips...so pretty much a hypochondriac who has been to the docs with everything will die of this rare bullshit :(.
Thank you.
anyone knows what it could be?
Based on your self diagnosis, I would say Dr. Google had a hand in this :whistles: I don't what it is but if it's been there three years and hasn't changed, it's not cancer. I'll have the "Told ya so gang" on standby.
Positive thoughts
concerned_hippo
02-05-18, 22:57
Sounds like not-cancer to me. I had a little lump like that on my upper lip years ago. You actually just reminded me of that, actually. It's gone now, just like yours will likely be at some point. Doesn't really sound like any kind of cancer to me, and after three years you'd likely be presenting with other symptoms.
I hope to hear that you're A-OK soon!
I have at least 30 lumps like this on my lower lip. They are hard and move slightly but they've been there all my life. But I currently have a fear of the same type of cancer as you because of lots of weird things in my mouth recently.
jaroslav.prossv
04-05-18, 11:22
Are they all hard and movable ? What is the size ? Are they also attached to some sort of a little string or a vain ?
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Sounds like not-cancer to me. I had a little lump like that on my upper lip years ago. You actually just reminded me of that, actually. It's gone now, just like yours will likely be at some point. Doesn't really sound like any kind of cancer to me, and after three years you'd likely be presenting with other symptoms.
I hope to hear that you're A-OK soon!
How did it go away ? Was it also small, hard and movable ? Mine is under the skin and there is a little vein or a string going out of it, which is pretty elastic and might be hard. I dont think that one is connected to my lip.
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 11:08
Hello, I am 19 years old, and I found this lip weird hard lump in my lower lip, which has this weird tail. Its all movable and does not seem to be attached to anything and is under the mucosa in my lower lip. I have been to the doctor (a specialist on these things) and he quickly touched it, asked he how long it has been there. When I told him for about 4 years, he said I should come next thursday, because he has more acute cases. He said its definitaly nothing serious and benign and even laughed. When I asked him, if it is possible to be caused by trauma and if its normal that its hard etc. he said its all okay. I wonder should I trust him ? He has been in a hurry and barealy touched it. Maybe he did not even listen to me that much...What do you guys think ?
Yes. Trust him, he knows what he is doing.
I think -
* He's a specialist in this field; why would you doubt his credentials?
* He felt it, looked at it and knew it was nothing to be concerned about; it didn't need any further long look, or questions answering, or any futher discussion. He didn't need to spend any longer- hes a specialist. He sees things day in and day out, its just JOB and what he has trained for his whole professional life. He knows what is a problem and what isn't.
* He found it funny that you had attended for such a minor reason, and commented that he had acute patients with non-benign problems.
* He informed you it was literally nothing of any concern, and was benign,(and the fact that its been there 4 LONG years and not changed means its nothing of any significance at all - people without HA would just accept this as normal body wear/tear/changes)
Well, of course he should be trusted. What reason do you have to not trust him? Is your knowledge superior on medical matters? OR are you just naturally not wanting to trust him because of your HA, and that ever nagging doubt.:winks:
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 12:15
I think -
* He's a specialist in this field; why would you doubt his credentials?
* He felt it, looked at it and knew it was nothing to be concerned about; it didn't need any further long look, or questions answering, or any futher discussion. He didn't need to spend any longer- hes a specialist. He sees things day in and day out, its just JOB and what he has trained for his whole professional life. He knows what is a problem and what isn't.
* He found it funny that you had attended for such a minor reason, and commented that he had acute patients with non-benign problems.
* He informed you it was literally nothing of any concern, and was benign,(and the fact that its been there 4 LONG years and not changed means its nothing of any significance at all - people without HA would just accept this as normal body wear/tear/changes)
Well, of course he should be trusted. What reason do you have to not trust him? Is your knowledge superior on medical matters? OR are you just naturally not wanting to trust him because of your HA, and that ever nagging doubt.:winks:
Yeah but he still said I should come neck thursday. I think its my HA, or ust overthinking it.
Oh, so he wants you to come back next Thursday does he, to be looked at again ? Well, then why do you not trust him, he's actually asked you to come back to spend more time with you. He thinks that its something that has been there 4 years, with no change, and therefore doesn't need to be seen as urgently as you think it does. Infact he's already said it is benign, so why are you returning? What is the context to this appointment - did you ask for an urgent appointment?
We see this type of query often on this forum. Along the lines of 'should I trust this doctor? he didn't spend long with me/didn't ask lots of questions/only looked quickly/laughed and then said it was nothing'. The fact is, and sorry to have to say this, as I know you are very worried, but to them it is so trivial - often they don't need more than a minute to look/feel, often don't need to ask anything else, are surprised that people turn up with such minor 'nothings' to be looked at. This is why HA sufferers come away feeling unresolved on issues, because in their mind it is a massive non-benign and concerning problem, to the specialist medic its quite the opposite. You have to see it from their side, away from your anxiety, if you can....
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 12:41
Oh, so he wants you to come back next Thursday does he, to be looked at again ? Well, then why do you not trust him, he's actually asked you to come back to spend more time with you. He thinks that its something that has been there 4 years, with no change, and therefore doesn't need to be seen as urgently as you think it does. Infact he's already said it is benign, so why are you returning? What is the context to this appointment - did you ask for an urgent appointment?
We see this type of query often on this forum. Along the lines of 'should I trust this doctor? he didn't spend long with me/didn't ask lots of questions/only looked quickly/laughed and then said it was nothing'. The fact is, and sorry to have to say this, as I know you are very worried, but to them it is so trivial - often they don't need more than a minute to look/feel, often don't need to ask anything else, are surprised that people turn up with such minor 'nothings' to be looked at. This is why HA sufferers come away feeling unresolved on issues, because in their mind it is a massive non-benign and concerning problem, to the specialist medic its quite the opposite. You have to see it from their side, away from your anxiety, if you can....
Ok thank you, but he said himself to come next thursday. I did not ask for that appointment, I am just wondering why, if he alreadyy said it is benign.
OK, yes, I see what you are getting at. What was the context of the appointment today - was it an emergency one?
You could have asked him, whilst you were there, why he's calling you back ? Or send a message to his secretary and ask ? (I know that some people are a bit shell-shocked and quiet and don't ask things at the time of the appointment)
Well, maybe he's calling you back because - he was obviously in a rush today, and probably could see you were really anxious, maybe he thinks he wants to spend more time with you explaining? Maybe (as today was about acute and serious cases) he wants to find out what benign condition is it ? Maybe he's going to offer to remove it for you? Maybe, maybe, maybe...
..but without having asked him, I guess its hard to know. I know this, doctors aren't in the habit of telling untruths to people and then changing the story later on. They either say 'they don't know' or give a definitive 'yes' or 'no'. Surely if he was concerned he would have said 'im not sure what it is, come back next Tuesday'.
I would try and find out why you are being called back.
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 13:10
OK, yes, I see what you are getting at. What was the context of the appointment today - was it an emergency one?
You could have asked him, whilst you were there, why he's calling you back ? Or send a message to his secretary and ask ? (I know that some people are a bit shell-shocked and quiet and don't ask things at the time of the appointment)
Well, maybe he's calling you back because - he was obviously in a rush today, and probably could see you were really anxious, maybe he thinks he wants to spend more time with you explaining? Maybe (as today was about acute and serious cases) he wants to find out what benign condition is it ? Maybe he's going to offer to remove it for you? Maybe, maybe, maybe...
..but without having asked him, I guess its hard to know. I know this, doctors aren't in the habit of telling untruths to people and then changing the story later on. They either say 'they don't know' or give a definitive 'yes' or 'no'. Surely if he was concerned he would have said 'im not sure what it is, come back next Tuesday'.
I would try and find out why you are being called back.
I dont know, dont want to call like this..but do you think that the statement that it is 100% benign is true and that I should not overthink this ?
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OK, yes, I see what you are getting at. What was the context of the appointment today - was it an emergency one?
You could have asked him, whilst you were there, why he's calling you back ? Or send a message to his secretary and ask ? (I know that some people are a bit shell-shocked and quiet and don't ask things at the time of the appointment)
Well, maybe he's calling you back because - he was obviously in a rush today, and probably could see you were really anxious, maybe he thinks he wants to spend more time with you explaining? Maybe (as today was about acute and serious cases) he wants to find out what benign condition is it ? Maybe he's going to offer to remove it for you? Maybe, maybe, maybe...
..but without having asked him, I guess its hard to know. I know this, doctors aren't in the habit of telling untruths to people and then changing the story later on. They either say 'they don't know' or give a definitive 'yes' or 'no'. Surely if he was concerned he would have said 'im not sure what it is, come back next Tuesday'.
I would try and find out why you are being called back.
Yeah the context of todays appointent was an emergency...he said that they always book people in advance for "non-accute" stuff. Which I understand, but still worried because he said to come back.
He said its definitaly nothing serious and benign and even laughed.
You made a specialist laugh. That speaks volumes!
Positive thoughts
Yeah the context of todays appointent was an emergency...he said that they always book people in advance for "non-accute" stuff. Which I understand, but still worried because he said to come back.
Well, to be honest I'm not surprised he laughed, sorry.....but after 4 years of something being there you booked an emergency appointment ?:D He made it clear to you whilst you were there that you had booked the wrong appointment, and emergencies are for serious issues or acute problems. He has said its benign and not serious and laughed, I personally believe doctors yes, for the reasons I have stated above.
What do you mean 'don't want to call like this?' You didn't ask at the time, but why not ask now after the time.
Yeah but he still said I should come neck thursday. I think its my HA, or ust overthinking it. I think it's both in your case, perhaps look in to getting help for your HA as when this current worry subsides another will take it's place and so on etc. There is no logical reason to doubt your dr, 1. If he was unsure then he would have made a referral to a specialist. Dr's don't become a dr in 12 months many years is spent training and they are professional in what they do, take comfort in this:yesyes: ATB
If he was unsure then he would have made a referral to a specialist
He did see the specialist, a very good one apparently. :D (apologies if I said He and it should be She, as I don't recognise the gender of your name)
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 13:25
He did see the specialist, a very good one apparently. :D (apologies if I said He and it should be She, as I don't recognise the gender of your name)
I just remembered that when I came to visit him I said "I found this lump and I want to find out what it is". Perhaps he was reffering to this and wants to make the correct diagnosis.
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I think it's both in your case, perhaps look in to getting help for your HA as when this current worry subsides another will take it's place and so on etc. There is no logical reason to doubt your dr, 1. If he was unsure then he would have made a referral to a specialist. Dr's don't become a dr in 12 months many years is spent training and they are professional in what they do, take comfort in this:yesyes: ATB
Ok thanks :)
nomorepanic
11-05-18, 13:26
Hi
This is just a courtesy reply to let you know that your thread was merged with another of your threads.
Please when posting on similar topics add it onto your previous post rather than starting a new one.
It is nothing personal it is just to make it easier for people to follow your story and to give you advice as a whole.
He did see the specialist, a very good one apparently. :D (apologies if I said He and it should be She, as I don't recognise the gender of your name) Oh Missed that that's even better news really HA is such a tricker making you doubt constantly that something is seriously wrong when it isn't. My apologies :) ATB
I just remembered that when I came to visit him I said "I found this lump and I want to find out what it is". Perhaps he was reffering to this and wants to make the correct diagnosis.
Yes, that's what I said further up, to find out what benign issue it is. So, this is sorted then? You asked him, and he is going to spend more time with you Thursday.
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Yes, that's what I said further up, to find out what benign issue it is. So, this is sorted then? You asked him, and he is going to spend more time with you Thursday.
And something benign is really good news so that's is good:yesyes: Nothing further to worry about :) ATB
jaroslav.prossv
11-05-18, 22:55
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Yes, that's what I said further up, to find out what benign issue it is. So, this is sorted then? You asked him, and he is going to spend more time with you Thursday.
Ok, thanks for help :)
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And something benign is really good news so that's is good:yesyes: Nothing further to worry about :) ATB
Yeah, hope hes right :) I gotta do something with my health anxiety.
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