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I’ve blocked my toilet again and had to go to work so can’t fix it until later. What can I do? I put my arm right down wasn’t much paper if any so the blockage seems further down.
Should I buy a plunger? Get a plumber? I have ocd so worry about where to put the plunger after it or I fear like one time in the past the water could flood the bathroom floor?
Usually putting down toilet works but not today. When I blocked it the other day it sort of lagged going away after I put my hand down so maybe a few more flushes first? The water seems to rise up when I flush though. :ohmy:
nomorepanic
18-05-18, 11:53
Phil - you can google how to unblock a toilet and there are loads of suggestions.
Try a dishwasher tablet and/or a washing powder tablet. Just leave them to dissolve.
Agree with Nic, but will add you must tell your therapist too about this as it's happening too many times. The reason why it's taking a long time to go down is because it's blocked probably in the U bend, I wouldn't keep flushing though as the water level can quickly rise above the bowl and it could spill on to the floor :eek: Less loo roll is the way to go and shower longer after wards that's my advice Phil. ATB
Could it be, as you've posted, you go through almost an entire roll of paper each time you go? :whistles:
FMP
Could it be, as you've posted, you go through almost an entire roll of paper each time you go? :whistles:
FMP I know Phil should be answering this him self but can safely say yes he does use a heck of a lot of loo roll and that's why he blocks his toilet so often he like to be clean but it's getting obsessive it's part of his OCD FMP ATB
MyNameIsTerry
18-05-18, 14:30
We sometimes get blockages, sometimes more at certain times of the year. We tend to try buckets of water first to try and force it through with more water pressure than the flush allows.
If that doesn't work it's plunger. Then onto using rods. Rods always sort it if nothing else does.
Sometimes we've found it's a blockage in the mains. Our shared mains is on our property so we can get the rods in there but we've only had to do this a couple of times.
We sometimes get blockages, sometimes more at certain times of the year. We tend to try buckets of water first to try and force it through with more water pressure than the flush allows.
If that doesn't work it's plunger. Then onto using rods. Rods always sort it if nothing else does.
Sometimes we've found it's a blockage in the mains. Our shared mains is on our property so we can get the rods in there but we've only had to do this a couple of times.
Where do I get the rods?
Maybe I will first try dish washer salt then bucket of water then a plunger?
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Someone in google said try a wire coat hanger and baking soda too?
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Am hoping the mains isn’t blocked I don’t know where to access it
Where do I get the rods?
Maybe I will first try dish washer salt then bucket of water then a plunger?
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Someone in google said try a wire coat hanger and baking soda too?
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Am hoping the mains isn’t blocked I don’t know where to access it Phil seriously do you want/need the extra hassle involved in unblocking your loo try and cut down on the amount of loo roll you use ;) didn't you manage to cut down on the amount of hand wash you use? Apply the same tools tools for loo rolls it's doable ATB
If you block your loo by using to much paper, why don't you just wipe a few times then flush, wipe a few times then flush?
If you block your loo by using to much paper, why don't you just wipe a few times then flush, wipe a few times then flush? That's a great idea Matt :) Sadly though his OCD will still be there this needs addressing hopefully his new therapy will help address his OCD. ATB
Serious question... how were you able to get yourself to put your arm elbow deep in the loo with your contamination OCD? It's not like you can buy a new one!
FMP
Serious question... how were you able to get yourself to put your arm elbow deep in the loo with your contamination OCD? It's not like you can buy a new one!
FMP Very good point FMP! Especaily with toilet germs and no gloves! I guess I already know the answer but does it add up? ATB
Very good point FMP! Especaily with toilet germs and no gloves! I guess I already know the answer but does it add up? ATB
I would be more worried about the sink having germs after I wash my arm rather than my arm :ohmy:
I’m in from work so trying the dishwasher tablet solution first. I will update if I get it away..
MyNameIsTerry
18-05-18, 19:18
Funnily enough in ERP the last step is often one that goes beyond what normally anyone would do. I remember reading about this in a paper put to professionals about ensuring they target the anxiety properly. In the case of one example they would have the person touching the sides of the toilet bowl.
But I'm guessing Phil had gloves on in this case.
I think phils OCD is quite selective as there have been many examples of where he's actually done something without being bothered by it e.g. he strimmed the grass but didn't seem to care that made the strimmer contaminated if he thought he had previously contaminated the grass.
But I question whether it's more a Perfectionism issue than a Contamination one. There is a particular focus on toilet germs though.
I remember my Symmetrical Thinking was very selective. Some items bothered me intensely yet others I could through in a pile in the corner.
You should be able to get rods from plumbing supply stores, hardware stores, online, etc. Much cheaper than the more extensive rodding a company will do for you. We've only had to do it a few times in decades. The coat hanger will just be a more basic version of rodding. You can get air guns too but I know my dad finds them less successful compared to rods.
Do you flush only at the end of wiping? If so, for now until you are able to work on reduction, at least do flushes bit by bit as it will stop the blocking.
I managed to unblock it the dish washer tablets never worked nor did toilet brush. I got a toilet plunger and it went away in seconds ..
I put it on top of the toilet brush to keep it from avoiding the floor. The good news no water on floor or plumber. The bad news is I blocked a toilet twice and I’ve only been in the house 5 mins..if had a family I couldn’t leave the plunger around as I would worry they would touch it and bring it round the house :ohmy:
So yes I’ve felt my house is contaminated and ruined now I blocked the toilet however I’ve not been able to recover from my over use of toilet paper some of my ocd like coming out the shower I fixed however not the toilet one. I mean I limied the plunger to one area and no water should should have hit the floor. I noticed the old toilet brush which was left behind had some toilet water on it anyway so perhaps the previous owner was putting that brush down the loo anyway :unsure:
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Funnily enough in ERP the last step is often one that goes beyond what normally anyone would do. I remember reading about this in a paper put to professionals about ensuring they target the anxiety properly. In the case of one example they would have the person touching the sides of the toilet bowl.
But I'm guessing Phil had gloves on in this case.
I think phils OCD is quite selective as there have been many examples of where he's actually done something without being bothered by it e.g. he strimmed the grass but didn't seem to care that made the strimmer contaminated if he thought he had previously contaminated the grass.
But I question whether it's more a Perfectionism issue than a Contamination one. There is a particular focus on toilet germs though.
I remember my Symmetrical Thinking was very selective. Some items bothered me intensely yet others I could through in a pile in the corner.
You should be able to get rods from plumbing supply stores, hardware stores, online, etc. Much cheaper than the more extensive rodding a company will do for you. We've only had to do it a few times in decades. The coat hanger will just be a more basic version of rodding. You can get air guns too but I know my dad finds them less successful compared to rods.
Do you flush only at the end of wiping? If so, for now until you are able to work on reduction, at least do flushes bit by bit as it will stop the blocking.
I never block after doing the toilet it’s the wiping up bit. Usually I block once I’m clean and I’m wiping for the 10th time I end up putting too much down and forgetting to flush.
And yes I see your point about not being contamination as I will give you an example somebody who goes to the toilet and doesn’t wash there hands and touches stuff that sort of worries me but only like 1/10 but if I did this it would be a case of throwing anything I touch away..
And you are correct I’ve not once worried the strimmer is contaminated but if I ran over this with my “new” lawmower then it would have been and who knows maybe id rebuy it.
My ocd has been quite bad of late I went through dark times meaning of life ocd to the toilet germs and every day hand washing.
I can’t go back I’ve already blocked the toilet I mean I wish I could find perfection however perhaps the drains and toilet are bit worse than my last house as if I blocked it I could let it gurgle up and the water would eventually go after an hour or two without plunging.
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And can you tell me more about the Perfectionism ocd is this common? I have always believed it was contamination however logically I know cleaning something could make it cleaner than before like the toilet was very dirty here when I moved in but me blocking it has spoiled it and made the house not perfect anymore. Despite blocking I could use some
Bleach spray and had the whole thing cleaner yet my mind won’t accept this I believe blocking it has meant I need a new toilet new sink or new house ..
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My ocd tonight has been the urge to throw away clothes that were in bathroom with the blocked toilet or I would want to replace the washing machine
Also anxious about a dirty plunger in my bathroom :ohmy:
MyNameIsTerry
19-05-18, 02:50
There are CCI workbooks for Perfectionism so have a look at the descriptions here:
https://psychologytools.com/mechanism-perfectionism.html
It may be Contamination & Perfectionism. Perfectionism seems to cross over into other themes a lot. It just strikes me that it's not always about germs themselves more a tainted object. It reminds me of another OCD sufferer on here who buys watches but gets them home and starts to struggle not to sell them again as they don't feel perfect anymore.
It's worth seeing what your therapist thinks. Either way, therapy can still help. It can just help to understand any other elements that might need addressing in recovery.
As for the paper, that happens with ours. Just flush it half way through wiping or more frequent and you will find this stops happening. And the thickness of paper can be an issue too which can dictate the need for more flushes.
I will add re the plunger (good move btw ;) ) Why not put in a zip up freezer bag shake the excess water off before you put it in the bag and zip the bag up that will afford you protection when you put it on the floor :) You sound in a very bad way just a observation from reading the last few posts, so glad you are going or get help for your OCD ATVB
I will add re the plunger (good move btw ;) ) Why not put in a zip up freezer bag shake the excess water off before you put it in the bag and zip the bag up that will afford you protection when you put it on the floor :) You sound in a very bad way just a observation from reading the last few posts, so glad you are going or get help for your OCD ATVB
Yes I’ve been wanting to get a new house again due to feeling this one is spoiled. I wish I could go back and be the type of person who doesn’t block a toilet.
Yes I get help this Monday I’m hoping it helps as it’s mostly my ocd that’s bad. My anxiety had dropped however I feel the ocd thoughts are making me anxious again.
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Regarding the plunger I think I will keep it for now but I will maybe buy a few extra plungers incase I decide to throw this one away..
MyNameIsTerry
20-05-18, 01:57
But you can stop yourself blocking a toilet, phil. Are you saying your anxiety is making you deliberately block it because, the amount of paper aside, you feel you can't flush it in stages?
But you can stop yourself blocking a toilet, phil. Are you saying your anxiety is making you deliberately block it because, the amount of paper aside, you feel you can't flush it in stages?
No the ocd isn’t making me block the toilet just the urge to use too much paper. I know I need to stop blocking them as I block one at work every day. I do flush a few times however seems to be that one time I put too much down. I use to block them so bad my parents had to pull all the paper out so when I say I block the toilet now it’s never with much loo roll I even cheap paper now. :ohmy:
I have a few issues using too much loo roll and wanting to replace e.g right now it’s a new house I want as my ocd is that extreme only leaving the anxious situation helps my anxiety. For example when I was young I peed a floor during the night by accident at a friends flat years later I go by that flat and still think it must be germs and contaminated for the people in that house now. And I still see both my partners parents house and mine as contaminated as I blocked toilets there before. At work I stopped buying stuff from the shop because the cleaner uses a mop on the floor and I worried she used that in that bathroom
And the germs from any toilet water were on it even if I can’t clarify if it was blocked and any water was on the floor.
Strange thing is I don’t generally find my work contaminated wanting a new house again and not buying from my work are recent extreme ocds I’ve had a lot of fake thoughts and not wanting to give my parents hoovers incase I thought my new one had been used at there’s even though that makes sense.
So yes it’s the extreme ocd I’ve had that’s made me seek some help :blush:
WiredIncorrectly
20-05-18, 11:46
I'd suggest baby wipes. I use 2 sheets of regular paper folded over to wipe. I'll wipe about 5 times until clean then go over with a baby wipe. I use far less than I used to.
I'd suggest baby wipes. I use 2 sheets of regular paper folded over to wipe. I'll wipe about 5 times until clean then go over with a baby wipe. I use far less than I used to. Think that's a excellent idea WIC :) ATB
I'd suggest baby wipes.
Make sure you use the flushable type!
Positive thoughts and clean tushies!
There’s a wet patch at the sink near the skirting is this because I blocked the toilet or is it condensation from the shower?
MyNameIsTerry
21-05-18, 02:35
No the ocd isn’t making me block the toilet just the urge to use too much paper. I know I need to stop blocking them as I block one at work every day. I do flush a few times however seems to be that one time I put too much down. I use to block them so bad my parents had to pull all the paper out so when I say I block the toilet now it’s never with much loo roll I even cheap paper now. :ohmy:
In which case you can stop part way through wiping and do a flush.
Are you workplace understanding? We used to put posters up to stop people putting those hand towels down and blocking the toilets.
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There’s a wet patch at the sink near the skirting is this because I blocked the toilet or is it condensation from the shower?
That happens with my shower. Even though the sheet seems to be covering inside the bath and up to the shower we still sometimes get some leakage to the sink that is next to it.
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