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worriedwithfear
17-06-18, 11:50
I just found out probably my best mate who I've known from school since we were 15 finally lost his virginity last year. He's my age. Thing is he's only ever had one gf and I had assumed given that they were living together for a while. But he didn't kiss a girl (this same girl) until like he was like 30! So he's hardly had any experience (I've been with far more women) but he's finally crossed the line. Still a little difficult hearing that but as I said I had kinda of assumed anyway.

I say this because as a Christian from an early age I believed it was important to wait for sex and despite having relationships, I did....and although I've obviously done some things I've still never had intercourse. I feel nothing but shame, frustration and disappointment over missing out on something that is so significant in life. I will never be able to change the past. It is not only deeply shameful but unhealthy to be a virgin at almost 35. It is a horrible position to be in. That's why I deeply regret not having done this when I had the opportunities earlier in life with previous gfs but I guess it never felt right at the time / women I was with weren't right for me etc. And also my mindset was different, I saw sex as something to be avoided because of my faith and beliefs. I know I should not beat myself up over this but I think the point is that I never imagined I'd still be waiting NOW!!
If I knew that I'd still be in the same position, I know I would not have waited.

So I would say since around the age of 30 I have been what's called an INCEL. I have only had one proper relationship in my 30s and that didn't last too long at all (a few months) but I have dated on and off since then. I can never seem to find a mutual attraction after years of online dating and searching.

It's not something I can click into existence and I can't bring myself to visit an escort i.e. someone I will never see again and to pay in order to lose something I have been holding onto my entire life!! That would be even more traumatic than what I'm going through at the moment. At this stage I will simply settle for a woman who I can have some sort of relationship with and take things from there. I even went as far as putting up an ad on personal ads/classfied etc. just for this purpose. No responses yet.

Growing up I always imagined I'd meet someone great and settle down, have a family etc. and that would be it, it would just happen naturally - a seemingly average life. And people see average in a negative light. I would do anything to settle for average if average meant the above! Because right now I am far from being average, I am so far below average that I am a failure compared to most men.

So, at almost 35 now, maybe marriage isn't sadly a reality. I will just settle for a full sexual relationship, even if it's a brief one.

KK77
17-06-18, 12:22
You're obviously posting on an anxiety forum so I assume you also suffer with some form of anxiety? I also detect low mood which is understandable. Have you ever had or considered having counselling/psychotherapy?

People get married at all ages and you're still young enough to start a family if you meet the right person. Of course, meeting the right person is the tricky bit. However, taking a positive outlook, if you do meet someone ready to settle down, sex will have more meaning and enjoyment.

It certainly isn't "too late".

---------- Post added at 12:22 ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 ----------

PS I also think you'll get more responses if you move your post to Depression or SA Forum ;)

worriedwithfear
17-06-18, 12:54
Thanks KK, how do I move the post/thread?

I do have some kind of anxiety I guess, certainly health anxiety perhaps. I've struggled on and off with depression and I believe this to be the primary cause.

KK77
17-06-18, 12:57
Thanks KK, how do I move the post/thread?

I do have some kind of anxiety I guess, certainly health anxiety perhaps. I've struggled on and off with depression and I believe this to be the primary cause.

It will be in Thread Tools options on top right of thread.

MyNameIsTerry
17-06-18, 13:04
Nothing you say there really implies you're an incel. Those guys are deeply unpleasant and resent women for their perceived unluckily lack of a sex life. You are clearly viewing yourself negatively over your life choices due to your faith whereas those guys are disrespectful to women to the point of some seriously unpleasant views.

Do you hold their views? If not, forget about that label.

There are many people who would applaud your choices to stick to what you believe in. It's just not popular in today's culture so just like body confidence issues it ends up being a negative, an inadequacy. So much is put on a healthy sex life but really what matters are the relationships because sex isn't as big an issue as it's made out in my opinion.

I can understand how it makes you feel depressed. If you want to stick to your faith, which is something to respect regardless os perceived social norms, then learning to spot & halt those negative thoughts about yourself will be very useful so that they don't suck you down.

jray23
17-06-18, 18:02
Don't beat yourself up. You made the choices you felt were best for you at that time and now you're ready to make different choices that you feel is right at this time.

I was/am in kinda similar situation, 27 kiss, 31 before getting laid. Part of that was religious upbringing and part due to my own ineptitude with women! But now I'm 36 and while getting laid is no longer a problem finding a fulfilling relationship still is. Definitely brings about some anxiety especially when seeing all friends married (and most happily so!). If it really grinds on you though, definitely seek counseling about it. How you're feeling internally WILL impact any potential relationship you may go for. Women can sense things!

My opinion - don't go the hooker route. Besides the increased risk of STD, while you'll learn the feeling and get a (likely) fun experience, you'll tell yourself later that it "doesn't count". Just keep at dating, you'll find what you're looking for eventually!

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worriedwithfear
25-06-18, 23:03
Don't beat yourself up. You made the choices you felt were best for you at that time and now you're ready to make different choices that you feel is right at this time.

This is it. You sum it up perfectly here; I need to accept that at the time those are the choices I made because I felt that that was right thing to do. It's a massive waste of time and energy to keep going over it and wishing I made different choices. It is what it is and I need to move on. That said though, it has no doubt impacted on how I view things now and made this whole dilemma a real challenge.

I am planning to see a counsellor of some sort very soon as I think I am on the verge of breaking down here. Hard to say whether my erratic sleeping patterns and anxiety are a result of this but something needs to change.

meant2live
26-06-18, 06:43
I’m not sure why our society views virginity as some sort of horrible disease that needs to be cured ASAP.

Sex is the most intimate act, so why wouldn’t you wait on it until you find someone that respects you and won’t run out the door the next morning?

I was happy to have saved it until I got married at 26.

Instead of focusing on that, why don’t you put yourself out there and try to meet women with similar interests? I know you said you put out an ad, but maybe try going to your favorite coffee shop or bookstore?

If you attend a church, is there some sort of a singles group that meets?

This may sound countercultural, but I applaud you for keeping your virginity due to your beliefs.