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Weasley123
20-07-19, 20:25
I have not been prescribed meds. I’m 41 my bp is very high at dr like 165/90 then it will drop like 20 points on repeat reading. My dr has always said anxiety and it’s true I’m in a panic. I can’t even check at home as I panic and obsess. My pulse races. My dr has even always renewed my birth control pill.

Anyway I’m still scared that someday I’ll have to take bp pills. I’m in good shape seemingly at least. I’m slim my resting pulse is 60s I walk 15 miles 4 or 5 days a week. I run up stairs. I think I do this to myself. I’m petrified of drs machines etc. A coworker told me they takr beta blockers and I heard they can help anxiety. Then I read no coffee. I love coffee and it never effects my pulse and when I use to obsessively take my bp it was actually usually lower after coffee. I am just wondering if I do have to Take these meds one day is it the end of all coffee and wine because to me that’s hell.

Fishmanpa
20-07-19, 20:38
I have heart disease. I've had two heart attacks, a triple bypass and stents. I take a BP med, beta blockers and blood thinners. While I've been able to reduce the dosage through lifestyle changes, I still have to take them. I'm just thankful a little pill can help keep me alive ;)

As far as the coffee and wine? I love coffee and wine too but due to my medications, I've had to practically eliminate alcohol and coffee. It wasn't that difficult TBH. I still have coffee a few times a month and enjoy an alcoholic beverage with a good meal now and again. Its just part of the "new normal".

If it ever gets to that point in your life, just keep what I said in mind.

Positive thoughts

Weasley123
20-07-19, 20:49
Thank you. I think st thst point I’d be able to do it. Now I actually feel great but my bizarre form of anxiety means when I feel great I think uh oh this can’t last disaster is looming. I think it’s partly that I was a miserable kid no abuse from my parents but a terrible relationship with my mom and the bigger problem serious bullying. The kind that these days would be on the news no joke. My adult hood has been great good marriage good career but I always have this fear disaster will strike. I’m a special ed teacher and believe it or not I’m a whiz at calming hysterical frightened kids with disabilities. After my dad died we got on well I developed health anxiety. Then my bp always low shot up at drs then this. Happy for months doing well then intrusive thoughts. Getting worse with age I guess i fear the good years are flying by. My husband says the irony is I’m in seemingly great shape best I ever been in based on appearance and ability to run etc not bp

Weasley123
20-07-19, 20:53
I guess my big thing is i don’t wan to take these meds fir something I’m doing to myself. But nothing not breathing exercises not calmimh thoughts helps my white coat

ankietyjoe
20-07-19, 21:01
Beta blockers have no effect on anxiety whatsoever. All the do is reduce the effect adrenaline has on your heart rate. It doesn't reduce anxiety, just lowers one potential symptom.

Coffee doesn't have to make your heart speed up to have a negative effect on anxiety either. It's a stimulant, and puts stress on your body. It's ideal to not drink coffee if you suffer with anxiety, whether you think it's affecting you or not. Same deal with alcohol.

Weasley123
20-07-19, 21:43
They are used to treat anxiety From what I’ve read. I drink one cup of coffee a day rarely two so not to excess. I don’t have any plans to give it up as it’s a source of happiness and relaxation for me if anything. My question was more can you take it with the meds. Now if one day I had gone through major issues I’d certainly reduce it but I can’t imagine quitting it completely

Fishmanpa
20-07-19, 21:51
Beta Blockers essentially put a ceiling on how hard your heart works. That's why they're effective for anxiety. While they don't change the mindset, they limit the physical reaction to it. I take one twice a day. They definitely limit how hard my heart works. The most significant side effect is breathlessness when I exert myself. I just have to adjust to how hard I physically exert myself. I have to go slower and take a moment to catch my breath when I feel the effects. An occasional coffee or alcoholic beverage has no significant effect.

Positive thoughts

Weasley123
20-07-19, 21:57
I don’t have any of those symptoms except racing heart at dr. I confess what got me on this two was I joined a white coat hypertensive support group on fb. I thought it be people like me with anxiety. Yes they have anxiety but a few of them Also post about no sugar no salt etc. and it’s making me more anxious then ever! I eat all Those things I also eat plenty of veggies plus walking 15 miles. I feel like the support group has scared me more.

I really am not joking when I sat that when I’m not Anxious I feel great. My anxiety comes in go very bad for a few hours then gone for days.

Fishmanpa
20-07-19, 22:01
Based on your lifestyle, I don't think this should be a concern. 'White Coat Syndrome' is common among anxiety sufferers. Addressing your anxiety will also address your concern.

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Weasley123
20-07-19, 22:04
Believe me I try. Hence the walking. It comes and goes it’s si weird. There was a student in my school with a weapon I was fine but thinking of a dr appointment I’m in terror. My husband tells me to relax and just enjoy the now I wavy too it’s so hard. I’ll do great for a while then I’m in a funk. I really thought the support group would help not make it worse

Fishmanpa
20-07-19, 22:21
Then ditch the support group! :shrug:

Positive thoughts

Weasley123
20-07-19, 22:32
I plan too I’m actually feeling a bit better but I’m pissed. I thought it be advice on how To breathe relax exercise. HeAlthy diet but with in reason. Instead it’s all posting articles eat sugar and die. Christ

ankietyjoe
20-07-19, 23:04
They are used to treat anxiety From what I’ve read. I drink one cup of coffee a day rarely two so not to excess. I don’t have any plans to give it up as it’s a source of happiness and relaxation for me if anything. My question was more can you take it with the meds. Now if one day I had gone through major issues I’d certainly reduce it but I can’t imagine quitting it completely

They don't treat anxiety (as I said previously). They reduce one symptom of anxiety, which won't actually treat the anxiety at all.

Yes, you can drink coffee and take beta blockers if you want to.

But reading what you've written, I don't think beta blockers are necessary. I think dealing with the unfounded anxiety is what's needed. You said yourself, you're healthy and you feel good, so why medicate?

nomorepanic
20-07-19, 23:17
Hi

This is just a courtesy reply to let you know that your post was moved from its original place to a sub-forum that is more relevant to your issue.

This is nothing personal - it just enables us to keep posts about the same problems in the relevant forums so other members with any experience with the issues can find them more easily.

Please also read this post:

http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=213239

panic_down_under
21-07-19, 05:14
I guess my big thing is i don’t wan to take these meds fir something I’m doing to myself. But nothing not breathing exercises not calmimh thoughts helps my white coat

Is therapy an option? Health anxiety usually responds well to the cognitive and behavioural (CBT, REBT) and mindfulness therapies. If not beta-blockers can reduce BP and block the adrenaline surge during an anxiety attack, however, as ankietyjoe has already pointed out, they don't have any direct anti anxiety properties. That said, significantly reducing the anxiety symptom which many find the most disturbing can have a positive affect on anxiety levels generally and that may often be enough in mild cases. Just one cautionary note, blocking adrenaline receptors impacts stamina so 15 mile walks will probably become harder to complete.


I think I do this to myself.

Your brain does. There is no such thing as a "mental" disorder. They are as much physical diseases as epilepsy, type 2 diabetes, or arthritis. Anxiety and depression are the varying manifestations of atrophy (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC60045/) of parts of the two hippocampal regions of the brain caused by high brain stress hormone levels killing neurons and inhibiting the growth of new ones. It is arguably a type of auto-immune disorder. Therapy (http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(13)00471-X/fulltext) and antidepressants (also to a limited extent exercise (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1413959/) and Omega-3 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23746276) fatty acids) work by stimulating the growth of new hippocampal brain cells (neurogenesis). It is the new cells and the interconnections they forge which produce the therapeutic response. For a more detailed explanation see: How antidepressant drugs act (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3025168/).

Weasley123
21-07-19, 12:05
I exercise a great deal I walk 15 miles a day it does help. I want to try cbt online because the appointment hours by me are very inconvenient for my job walking and pets but I want to find someone reputable