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I have had increased anxiety lately but I believe it’s down to Brexit and politics I find myself ranting on social media and glued to news channels so I’m unable to think of more positive news? Anybody else the same? One of my physical symptoms has been a sore head
MyNameIsTerry
05-09-19, 01:46
It's a big issue and a big change coming so for those more worried about social/financial stuff or having more general worries it can obviously be a concern. But what is upsetting you about it?
Ranting on social media, a great big cesspit of ranting people, is a very negative thing. Surrounding yourself with negative people, many prone to scaremongering and nonsensical stories being put out, is hardly helpful to mental health.
The news revolves around negative news simply because it sells. There is plenty of good news out there if you go looking for it yourself and don't allow the media to feed you what they want to sell. There are always stories of something fun with animals, good charity work or just good turns done by people for no reason other than it being the right thing to do. The media don't want these as they sell little compared to scaring the life out of people with their endless speculations.
I hope you are not being drawn into all the CT BS nonsense being put out. There are a lot of very skewed stories around Brexit on both sides because of the entrenched nature of the hardcore elements in it. Most people are sick of hearing about it and busy doing their shopping and taking the bins out as life always goes on...
Isn't Brexit a good distraction from all your OCD issues though? Have you forgotten about solipsism?
It’s no fun with trolls giving abuse about Brexit. And no I’ve not forgotten about Solipsism.
And yes you are right it’s never good news and if it is it’s the last story. I remember a tv channel doing a show with only good news. Social media is full of it too even if I avoid a click on the Mail or sun the posts come via newsfeeds on Twitter it Facebook. Then the temptation to comment then the abuse comes.
I am unaure what’s troubling me perhaps a new prime minister. Perhaps another Scottish independence referendum the one in 2014 caused lots of arguments fall outs with people and uncertainty. It was awful I hope we don’t end up with another
MyNameIsTerry
07-09-19, 02:12
Isn't Brexit a good distraction from all your OCD issues though? Have you forgotten about solipsism?
Well it's working for the government in avoiding every other problem in society. Just roll out a Brexit "issue" of the day. :winks:
MyNameIsTerry
07-09-19, 02:18
It’s no fun with trolls giving abuse about Brexit. And no I’ve not forgotten about Solipsism.
And yes you are right it’s never good news and if it is it’s the last story. I remember a tv channel doing a show with only good news. Social media is full of it too even if I avoid a click on the Mail or sun the posts come via newsfeeds on Twitter it Facebook. Then the temptation to comment then the abuse comes.
I am unaure what’s troubling me perhaps a new prime minister. Perhaps another Scottish independence referendum the one in 2014 caused lots of arguments fall outs with people and uncertainty. It was awful I hope we don’t end up with another
Yes, social media is very bad for links. You follow someone and end up with links via them and some things might be upsetting e.g. abuse.
It's a matter of where you go to discuss and what they are like. I follow the odd forum to see what issues are current as it gives me a hint into the daily news without reading across them all first. It didn't take me long to realise what echo chambers they can be with people loving the negativity and hurling abuse everywhere. These are very sad people and if it's not this it will only be something else as it's their personality.
Your indy in 2014 was always going to dredge up some toxic stuff between Scottish nats and English nats. I think if you do get another I would concern yourself with the facts and avoid the many opinions. The last indy has been myth busted in terms of the gibberish the likes of Salmond were spouting, even by the SNP themselves. A future indy should be a bit clearer now those issues have been discussed at length and the real facts put out there without the bias of nationalism. Just like how we know much more about Brexit now than we did in 2016 so any new referendum (God help us! :doh:) would find us more educated without the BS being spouted on both sides who only wanted their win.
If you want to chat about politics we have a few threads on Misc and they are all respectful.
Oh... we'll get by, somehow. All of us.
WiredIncorrectly
09-09-19, 01:08
I've had many panic attacks as a result of brexit. I follow politics closely, and when things went south I started having panic attacks whenever I read a brexit article. It's not so much brexit that caused it, it's the MP's and the feeling of lost trust. The feeling of helplessness in a country you thought had you protected. Not only that, the country is divided with people arguing over leave vs. remain. The moment you share your opinions on brexit you're jumped on by the opposing side, and it usually ends up in being verbally attacked as a result.
MyNameIsTerry
09-09-19, 01:56
I've had many panic attacks as a result of brexit. I follow politics closely, and when things went south I started having panic attacks whenever I read a brexit article. It's not so much brexit that caused it, it's the MP's and the feeling of lost trust. The feeling of helplessness in a country you thought had you protected. Not only that, the country is divided with people arguing over leave vs. remain. The moment you share your opinions on brexit you're jumped on by the opposing side, and it usually ends up in being verbally attacked as a result.
When I was really struggling any social unrest would increase my anxiety greatly. GE's would too, a strange sort of massive change outside of your control yet in reality it wouldn't mean much difference to me either way. It was just the nature of triggers and struggling with change.
Getting out that I found myself reading some of each newspaper whenever I was in the supermarket and it helped as an exposure. These days I'm back to my pre-anxiety levels of not giving much a shite as whoever gets in they just seem to bugger it up further anyway :yesyes:
Alright, I admit it, I'm still worried. Why, they're running a whole ad campaign around it now! That's like tantamount to running Protect and Survive! Didn't we pass a bill preventing a no-deal? What'll happen then, we get a default or something?
MyNameIsTerry
23-09-19, 12:54
Alright, I admit it, I'm still worried. Why, they're running a whole ad campaign around it now! That's like tantamount to running Protect and Survive! Didn't we pass a bill preventing a no-deal? What'll happen then, we get a default or something?They passed a Bill to instruct the PM to ask for an extension in the event of No Deal. The EU can always refuse that since our law has no hold over them. They are currently fighting over whether Boris will do it and the prorogue. If the EU agree an extension it's just more of the same pursuing a deal. They have to run awareness campaigns so people can make provisions like firms that import/export or use EU staff (which they will have been working on for ages just in case), travellers into the EU, etc.
But if they refuse - why, the results could be disastrous for all of us!
I'm with you, Frank, I just don't see any point in wasting energy worrying about something I have absolutely zero control over. Life goes on.
MyNameIsTerry
23-09-19, 13:36
It's unlikely the EU will refuse despite Macron waving his sabre around, something he does quite a bit. The change in government and looming GE is a very valid reason to extend. Despite Boris I expect they would find a way to deal with it and they can always call a vote of no confidence and install a caretaker government.
We are about to enter a massive Depression! The 1% is destroying the foundations of our country and the 99% are hurting!
I have been watching the current Brexit debate with deep disbelief and i watched Question Time tonight and felt very anxious and stupidly watched yesterday's parliament debate . No matter what side you are on it is definitely a trigger for my anxiety and it is making me worry about work, family ,travel and finances etc which are other triggers for me. I think it plays into my doom scenarios and that chaos is around the corner, which it isn't we have many structures in British society which will stop that ie Civil Servants mainly run he country not MPs so do Judges, police chiefs and whole tiers of local government. A lot of media and politicians are taking positions that are controversial and polarised to make a name for themselves or to sell their news . It is not war its not a disaster it s the UK leaving a trading block after a referendum. It does make me think though what species some MPs are because I cannot really equate them as similar to me and my day to day struggles.
I took a propranolol 40mg tonight for the first time in about 3 months.
RCS :huh:
feelthelove
27-09-19, 00:57
brexit has caused me the highest anxiety and panic , its terrible how it has affected families and division . we are all given a vote and choose what we think best and then vote, usually with a GE if the side you voted for win or lose people rant on for a few days and then life gets back to normal, with brexit it has gone on too long , both side remain or lose are in a state of frustration remainers are fearful of the country coming to a crash with shortages of food and medicines, leavers are frustrated because their vote looks like it counts for nothing because they feel they are ignored. Whichever way we voted we should all look at the way brexit has been dealt with by the mp's because no matter what they voted they are there to serve us and do the will of the people. they have caused all this stress and fear for us , it would have been done and finished by now if they'd have got on with it and we'd be a year post brexit , who knows the country might have already been prospering and everyone would be calm again , but i do believe that either way we need an end to this for everyone's sakes we cannot go on like this , there is a division and its really sad to see our nation verbally abusing each other over brexit . we need to leave now so we can all move on and get our lives back because remain or leave it has been in our faces daily for over three years, it isn't healthy for any of us .I voted to leave because i want our country to be independent and govern itself , I have remain friends and family who are now just wanting us to leave to be able to move on its getting everyone down .
I have heightened anxiety because i have been abused verbally for voting to leave by people around me , i went to counselling a few times the first time was when i my own gp counselled me and she said be honest about what is cuasing you anxiety and so i told her , she wasn't happy with me she told me i was wrong to have voted leave,and gave me a lecture about it all , i left the surgery in tears and the anxiety went down hill from there , i had another counselling session and all the guy did was talk about himself and i ended up counselling him . I actually feel i have nowhere to turn and now i know my gp knows i voted leave i have the feeling i won't get any help with illnesses from her , i haven't been back for months and i am struggling a lot , i am diabetic and my blood sugar is up and down like a yo yo ,i don't feel well at all , regardless of my vote i don't think i needed to be told off for my right to vote .
I hope i don't lose my friends on here this is my only help and that is the truth. I am from a town where we voted over seventy per cent leave .
I don't think we will fail as a country i think we will prosper , nobody has a crystal ball so we have to wait and see, but for me i dont' want any more extensions because it is making me ill , i just think now it needs to end for us all . we all have to live together and having uncertainty and extensions makes me even worse, for me it is like i won a prize and now i can't have the prize and if we don't leave it feels like my winning ticket has gone to the losing side and that seems unfair , as a nation we need to work at this together to make the best of the result, if we don't try we won't know , if we can't get along we will never live in harmony .x Peace and love to everyone , lets be positive it is the only option if we really in our hearts want fairness x
feelthelove
27-09-19, 01:05
I have been watching the current Brexit debate with deep disbelief and i watched Question Time tonight and felt very anxious and stupidly watched yesterday's parliament debate . No matter what side you are on it is definitely a trigger for my anxiety and it is making me worry about work, family ,travel and finances etc which are other triggers for me. I think it plays into my doom scenarios and that chaos is around the corner, which it isn't we have many structures in British society which will stop that ie Civil Servants mainly run he country not MPs so do Judges, police chiefs and whole tiers of local government. A lot of media and politicians are taking positions that are controversial and polarised to make a name for themselves or to sell their news . It is not war its not a disaster it s the UK leaving a trading block after a referendum. It does make me think though what species some MPs are because I cannot really equate them as similar to me and my day to day struggles.
I took a propranolol 40mg tonight for the first time in about 3 months.
RCS :huh:
I feel your anxiety .
feelthelove
27-09-19, 01:10
We are about to enter a massive Depression! The 1% is destroying the foundations of our country and the 99% are hurting!
You don't know that though , its only what we've been constantly told for over three years , and it hurts to read this because as a leaver i am really struggling with anxiety as i feel frustrated and angry that i won and i can't have my prize . I hate it that we as a country are being treated so unfairly , remain or leave we should have moved on by now but the powers that be have tried to stop us leaving and it is them that have caused fear .We won't sink our economy is great but nobody has a crystal ball and we need to leave so we can all move on . I am very anxious and struggling the worse right now , but only because i feel my vote doesn't count because the mp's are not doing their jobs .
MyNameIsTerry
27-09-19, 02:28
We are about to enter a massive Depression! The 1% is destroying the foundations of our country and the 99% are hurting!
Frank, we've been through recessions plenty of times and they end so even if it does happen the world isn't going to end.
As for the 1%, do you think they have been any different throughout the history of every country on planet earth? And no, politicians are disingenous when they talk about the 99% because that elite 1% doesn't include lots of people who have plenty of money e.g. professionals. Do you really think the consultants at your local hospital will be at the food banks soon?
MyNameIsTerry
27-09-19, 02:35
I have been watching the current Brexit debate with deep disbelief and i watched Question Time tonight and felt very anxious and stupidly watched yesterday's parliament debate . No matter what side you are on it is definitely a trigger for my anxiety and it is making me worry about work, family ,travel and finances etc which are other triggers for me. I think it plays into my doom scenarios and that chaos is around the corner, which it isn't we have many structures in British society which will stop that ie Civil Servants mainly run he country not MPs so do Judges, police chiefs and whole tiers of local government. A lot of media and politicians are taking positions that are controversial and polarised to make a name for themselves or to sell their news . It is not war its not a disaster it s the UK leaving a trading block after a referendum. It does make me think though what species some MPs are because I cannot really equate them as similar to me and my day to day struggles.
I took a propranolol 40mg tonight for the first time in about 3 months.
RCS :huh:
Sorry to hear this, RCS. I suspect you are one of many and the constant scaremongering is largely to blame. We keep being told the country is turning into something it's not and if it is how exactly did the government get it's bum spanked in court yet again? Does that happen in countries where we they really have problems?
Like you say there are a lot of people making a name for themselves out of crisis. Whether they are disaster capitalists, reporters looking to get the awards or politicians being self serving in their endless quest for power what we can say is they don't really care about us (maybe some do but the majority won't). We see lawyers making fine speeches about democracy whilst laughing all the way to the Aston Martins.
Sadly it's the larger debate about the media and the lack of quality politicians so it won't end but you can get through it with anxiety. I used to struggle with any political upheaval but I'm long through it now. If you need to avoid it to protect your health then that's fine and you can work on changing how it affects you as you work through your anxiety. Change and uncertainty are foundations of anxiety disorders so it makes sense such things can be problematic for many of us.
MyNameIsTerry
27-09-19, 03:10
brexit has caused me the highest anxiety and panic , its terrible how it has affected families and division . we are all given a vote and choose what we think best and then vote, usually with a GE if the side you voted for win or lose people rant on for a few days and then life gets back to normal, with brexit it has gone on too long , both side remain or lose are in a state of frustration remainers are fearful of the country coming to a crash with shortages of food and medicines, leavers are frustrated because their vote looks like it counts for nothing because they feel they are ignored. Whichever way we voted we should all look at the way brexit has been dealt with by the mp's because no matter what they voted they are there to serve us and do the will of the people. they have caused all this stress and fear for us , it would have been done and finished by now if they'd have got on with it and we'd be a year post brexit , who knows the country might have already been prospering and everyone would be calm again , but i do believe that either way we need an end to this for everyone's sakes we cannot go on like this , there is a division and its really sad to see our nation verbally abusing each other over brexit . we need to leave now so we can all move on and get our lives back because remain or leave it has been in our faces daily for over three years, it isn't healthy for any of us .I voted to leave because i want our country to be independent and govern itself , I have remain friends and family who are now just wanting us to leave to be able to move on its getting everyone down .
I have heightened anxiety because i have been abused verbally for voting to leave by people around me , i went to counselling a few times the first time was when i my own gp counselled me and she said be honest about what is cuasing you anxiety and so i told her , she wasn't happy with me she told me i was wrong to have voted leave,and gave me a lecture about it all , i left the surgery in tears and the anxiety went down hill from there , i had another counselling session and all the guy did was talk about himself and i ended up counselling him . I actually feel i have nowhere to turn and now i know my gp knows i voted leave i have the feeling i won't get any help with illnesses from her , i haven't been back for months and i am struggling a lot , i am diabetic and my blood sugar is up and down like a yo yo ,i don't feel well at all , regardless of my vote i don't think i needed to be told off for my right to vote .
I hope i don't lose my friends on here this is my only help and that is the truth. I am from a town where we voted over seventy per cent leave .
I don't think we will fail as a country i think we will prosper , nobody has a crystal ball so we have to wait and see, but for me i dont' want any more extensions because it is making me ill , i just think now it needs to end for us all . we all have to live together and having uncertainty and extensions makes me even worse, for me it is like i won a prize and now i can't have the prize and if we don't leave it feels like my winning ticket has gone to the losing side and that seems unfair , as a nation we need to work at this together to make the best of the result, if we don't try we won't know , if we can't get along we will never live in harmony .x Peace and love to everyone , lets be positive it is the only option if we really in our hearts want fairness x
Sorry to hear about this FTL. :hugs:
Firstly, your GP is a moron. GP's are supposed to keep their personal thoughts out of it and clearly they are not equipped to even attempt counselling as it's done like that! Doctors save the lives and treat the worst dregs of society so how can they be upset over a simple vote when they are willing to patch up some monster?
Are there other GP's at the practice you can see? If not and you have to see this person again I suggest you keep Brexit out of it and say it is the upheaval in politics to keep it bland. If they try to bring Brexit up cut them off and say having your level of anxiety about any vote isn't healthy and needs the same treatment as any other anxiety would. Treatment would not include finding what was the best way to vote as it's completely irrelevant.
I agree with you though, the EU are loving it as they have a largely united group of politicians working together. We are busy infighting. We need to pull together and MP's need to accept we are leaving rather than keep trying to stop it. It's unhealthy as you say and the longer this nonsense goes on it is only creating more division and the language is ramping up because people are unhappy.
We talk about Brexit on the politics threads but it is a civilised debate. On here we just get on and understand mental health comes first. I really don't think you should allow yourself to worry over losing people here because of a vote. If friendship can't be above this then it's not really friendship in my eyes.
feelthelove has a point though, it has gone on too long. My local paper ran a column that says either way, it's not good for business. At this point, the sooner we reach a decision, the sooner we can return to some semblance of normality! Otherwise we risk becoming an elected dictatorship!
MyNameIsTerry
29-09-19, 16:41
feelthelove has a point though, it has gone on too long. My local paper ran a column that says either way, it's not good for business. At this point, the sooner we reach a decision, the sooner we can return to some semblance of normality!That's very true. The pound stays low because of the lack of clarity and this effects so many areas including things like pensions. My investments have actually improved due to the referendum as my returns have noticeably gone up which I find very interesting as it's not like medium risk investments are mostly outside the UK :shrug: Also consider businesses are spending many millions on projects to prepare for scenarios as they have no firm understanding of how it will go. Business will however simply pass the costs onto us.
Which is what will ultimately drag us into a deep Depression.
MyNameIsTerry
29-09-19, 16:58
But we are already in this situation and have been for 3 years now. Some sectors have seen growth in that time. The point is more that it is slowing down business so they make less money than they would have. Any big event does the same like the banking crisis, wars, even change in political party. The pound tanks until uncertainty is replaced by confidence hence the PM merely reading out a speech seems it lift when in reality nothing has changed.
Can’t believe there is another delay. The news said we could be debating this for 20 years will it ever end? Country is very divided.
MyNameIsTerry
20-10-19, 02:19
Yep, likely the end of the year although some EU sources have indicated they would go longer.
It was never going to happen today as it's all been too rushed and to be honest MP's should have more than a few days to go through all this and prepare questions. Lets hope next week starts to push through some of this but then MP's are the biggest ditherers in existence.
At some point it has to end. We will leave and then the rejoin groups will just start up. It will likely decline over the years though unless people are putting their lives on hold. Politics seemed to have shifted a bit into new territory with all these court cases so there will probably be a lot of talking about it for many years to come. You can guarantee parties like the Lib Dems will harp on about the pre leave days whenever there is an issue.
Once they get this stage agreed we move into the trade agreement side. That will take a few good years or more. The two transition period will keep things as they are so business can prep for the end date but it will likely be moved back anyway if they need more time as I doubt the EU will have a problem with that if it helps with stability.
Can’t believe there is another delay. The news said we could be debating this for 20 years will it ever end? Country is very divided.
20 years? But the world is ending in 2030 according to Frank and the UN!:D
Well, that's just great, we get something working and they go and do this. Well, fine! If they want an elected dictatorship, they can have it, I don't care anymore!
MyNameIsTerry
20-10-19, 13:12
20 years? But the world is ending in 2030 according to Frank and the UN!:DWon't Brexit solve our carbon targets? I thought it meant we were going back to wattle & daub, horse drawn carriage and the penny farthing? :yesyes:
Horse drawn carriages would cause a massive stink on our roads....literally but bring on the penny farthing, wattle and daub..and the quill pen too!
MyNameIsTerry
20-10-19, 14:02
It would fill in the potholes at least. Corbyn would be happy as he could take a bucket to work with him ready for his allotment later. Email & text to be replaced with the telegraph Stop I'm having one fitting in my bedroom Stop Tweeting will only occur where our fat pigeons cause wobbling in the line Stop. And you get your quill! :yesyes:
Finally! People will have to learn how to write and spell again...and talk. No wonder we now have Brexit therapy being offered by some astute "clinicians"!!
I’m waiting for you all to figure out the right side of the road to drive on ;)
MyNameIsTerry
21-10-19, 01:45
I’m waiting for you all to figure out the right side of the road to drive on ;)
Get Trump to stick it in the upcoming UK-US trade deal. We're not budging on the pronunciation of a certain fruit though. :money::emot-pinochio:
Get Trump to stick it in the upcoming UK-US trade deal. We're not budging on the pronunciation of a certain fruit though. :money::emot-pinochio:
You can pronounce things however you want...just drive the right way! LOL
But you know what the worst part is? We've wasted even more money on an ad campaign that's now meaningless! And yet that's still running, apparently... is the delay even official yet?
venusbluejeans
21-10-19, 14:46
I have moved this to Misc as it is now more of a discussion about Brexit rather than anything about anxiety :)
MyNameIsTerry
21-10-19, 15:37
But you know what the worst part is? We've wasted even more money on an ad campaign that's now meaningless! And yet that's still running, apparently... is the delay even official yet?Yep, but not giving people information would have been bad too. I laughed when I saw it the first time, how can they advise you when they don't have a clue? All delays in this are costing us and business. Imagine businesses having to set up project teams to risk assess and mitigate for No Deal? That will just be reclaimed in increased prices. The delay isn't official because the EU have set they wait until after today to see what other silly business we get up to. There is no reason they won't extend but perhaps they are seeing if the WA could get through to agree to a shorter extension?
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