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Nohelp
07-12-19, 16:46
The title says it , for the past two weeks I've been having intermittent very brief stab type pains in right side of head , and occasionally a pain in the corner of my eyebrow and into nose on the right side , sometimes if I bend or move head quickly pain in forehead .

Ive had migraine for years and this is different , the pain is not severe and brief - but I know it's there and something is "wrong " ! Also eyebrow area tender to touch .

Ive got a gp appointment on Monday . But I'm a bit scared as neverhad anything like this before I don't want to google . Just wanted to know if anyone has had similar ? Help !

Nohelp x

Nohelp
07-12-19, 17:55
Nobody ? 😔

nomorepanic
07-12-19, 19:15
Could be a sinus problem but see what doc says

ankietyjoe
07-12-19, 20:15
Could be a million minor things.

If you don't want to Google, then don't Google, it's really not that hard! :)

NancyW
07-12-19, 20:58
If you don't want to Google, then don't Google, it's really not that hard! :)

AMEN!!! I really have an issue with people making it out like Google has done kind of demonic power over them.

Nohelp
07-12-19, 21:19
?? Obviously I know google hasn't got demonic power over me !! Just came on here rather than give in to the urge to look up symptoms . You don't know anything about me ! Was expecting some friendly support rather than being slated for my efforts to get my HA under control , which isn't easy .... so I won't be doing that again ! Thanks a lot

KK77
07-12-19, 21:25
TI've been having intermittent very brief stab type pains in right side of head , and occasionally a pain in the corner of my eyebrow and into nose on the right side , sometimes if I bend or move head quickly pain in forehead .

Ive had migraine for years and this is different , x
Could be a pinched nerve if pain is on movement of head? Do painkillers help?

Nohelp
07-12-19, 21:43
Thanks . I've taken painkillers but the pains are so brief it's difficult to know if they do anything! I've had a whole couple of days without the pain but it upset me by coming back �� And I get it a good few times a day . I'm taking comfort in the fact they did go and hoping I'm not wrong to do that x

KK77
07-12-19, 22:02
Sounds muscular/nerve-related to me as it appears briefly on movement of head/neck. Think you're right in taking comfort that it isn't anything serious and will pass ;)

ankietyjoe
07-12-19, 22:41
Nobody was slating you, just reaffirming the idea that staying off Google isn't actually that hard.

Nohelp
07-12-19, 22:52
Thank you for the replies x

NancyW
07-12-19, 23:34
Nobody was slating you, just reaffirming the idea that staying off Google isn't actually that hard.

Exactly. A little defensive a? 🙄

ankietyjoe
07-12-19, 23:56
Yeah, but it's all good. Fear is fear, and distorts reactions sometimes.

Brian_VA
08-12-19, 02:30
Nobody was slating you, just reaffirming the idea that staying off Google isn't actually that hard.

If you are addicted to reassurance seeking, it can be very difficult to stop googling.

always scared
08-12-19, 03:26
If you are addicted to reassurance seeking, it can be very difficult to stop googling.

So true. I am so guilty of this.

ankietyjoe
08-12-19, 21:04
If you are addicted to reassurance seeking, it can be very difficult to stop googling.

That's just an excuse to carry on doing it. It's really not THAT hard, you just don't do it.

Google is the exact opposite of reassurance seeking, as Google never tells you you're fine. You'll keep picking at the scab until you come up with cancer.

Fishmanpa
08-12-19, 21:21
That's just an excuse to carry on doing it. It's really not THAT hard, you just don't do it.

Google is the exact opposite of reassurance seeking, as Google never tells you you're fine. You'll keep picking at the scab until you come up with cancer.

I totally agree with this with one small caveat. Google actually is used by the sufferer as a convoluted form of reassurance seeking with a very partisan and negative result. That negative result, which feeds the dragon, also offers affirmation to the fear and what makes it contrary to straight on reassurance seeking. Even if 95% of what turns up is no issue, the sufferer grabs onto the 5% with both hands. For all intents and purposes, Google is the Dragon's sword.

Positive thoughts

ankietyjoe
08-12-19, 23:12
Yes you can argue that using Google is some kind of paradoxical anti-reassurance and it's the futile search for and answer that is the problem, I was just trying to illustrate the point that Google is never, ever actually reassuring. Not in my experience anyway! :shrug:

Brian_VA
09-12-19, 03:21
That's just an excuse to carry on doing it. It's really not THAT hard, you just don't do it.

Google is the exact opposite of reassurance seeking, as Google never tells you you're fine. You'll keep picking at the scab until you come up with cancer.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have found it difficult to stop googling. I have improved though. For people like myself who have trouble accepting uncertainty, Google is an immediate quick fix of information that can lead to a feeling of certainty and reassurance. Even if it's only temporary.
By your logic, it shouldn't be hard for an alcoholic to stop drinking. You just dont do it. Or for a chronic hand washer to stop. You just dont do it. Or someone who checks the stove 10 times. You just dont do it.
I've made progress in reducing my compulsive behavior, googling/reassurance seeking, but I have to say I never found it easy.

Sparky16
09-12-19, 03:25
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have found it difficult to stop googling. I have improved though. For people like myself who have trouble accepting uncertainty, Google is an immediate quick fix of information that can lead to a feeling of certainty and reassurance. Even if it's only temporary.
By your logic, it shouldn't be hard for an alcoholic to stop drinking. You just dont do it. Or for a chronic hand washer to stop. You just dont do it. Or someone who checks the stove 10 times. You just dont do it.
I've made progress in reducing my compulsive behavior, googling/reassurance seeking, but I have to say I never found it easy.

I agree. It's surprisingly difficulty for some of us to stop, even when we know that it is not going to help or be constructive in any way. I think it's not always a form of reassurance seeking, though, but a form of rumination.

ankietyjoe
09-12-19, 08:20
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I have found it difficult to stop googling. I have improved though. For people like myself who have trouble accepting uncertainty, Google is an immediate quick fix of information that can lead to a feeling of certainty and reassurance. Even if it's only temporary.
By your logic, it shouldn't be hard for an alcoholic to stop drinking. You just dont do it. Or for a chronic hand washer to stop. You just dont do it. Or someone who checks the stove 10 times. You just dont do it.
I've made progress in reducing my compulsive behavior, googling/reassurance seeking, but I have to say I never found it easy.

It's not comparable to a chemical addiction in any way. A chemical addiction becomes a physical need, and I don't see the logic in comparing the two at all. This is coming from somebody who has had an addiction to nicotine, cocaine and alcohol (although the latter less so).

Googling is a habit, most forms of OCD are habits. They are not a situation with a hard edged external trigger like a chemical addiction, and habits are (relatively speaking) easy to break using practice.

If you find it hard, it's because you're not applying enough practice.

My 'final frontier' is losing weight. Unlike some, I put weight on with my anxiety. I'm not succeeding at the level I want to yet, but I'm not going to say 'but oh it's hard' because it's really not. My weight isn't reducing because I'm still not applying enough self control to what I eat. Telling myself it's hard is giving myself the excuse to stay fat.

NancyW
09-12-19, 13:00
My 'final frontier' is losing weight. Unlike some, I put weight on with my anxiety. I'm not succeeding at the level I want to yet, but I'm not going to say 'but oh it's hard' because it's really not. My weight isn't reducing because I'm still not applying enough self control to what I eat. Telling myself it's hard is giving myself the excuse not stay fat.

The logic in your entire post makes me want to scream YES!!!

On the weight loss front. I work for a very large, long standing, popular weight loss company. You're absolutely 100% correct in your explanation above, it's amazing how people will dodge that truth, they'll fight to convince me they are not losing weight because of some outside force.

You are awesome!

ankietyjoe
09-12-19, 17:51
When you tell people it's not their fault, they'll happily pay for a solution. It's just psychology really.

Weight loss companies are going to provide the opposite solution to long term weight loss, logically.

NancyW
09-12-19, 18:22
Weight loss companies are going to provide the opposite solution to long term weight loss, logically.

Wrong. I work 7 days a week in the field, I see hundreds of members in that time, the success, the long term success is wildly amazing and thrilling. We WANT successful people... we give them a lifetime FREE membership for doing so... we WANT their success out there spreading the word. We have 4.6 million members and we can help ALL of them reach their goals by teaching them how to live in an obescingetic environment, and sadly NEVER run out of over weight and morbidly obese people. There is an endless supply of obese people look around you, we're not hurting for potential members.

ankietyjoe
09-12-19, 20:11
The long term success of weight loss companies is statistically very low though. As an individual I'm sure you do want people to succeed, but the weight loss companies know that for the majority of clients the weight will come back on within two years. It's a cyclical thing, based on the Standard American Diet. If you eat the SAD, you will almost inevitably get fat.

NancyW
09-12-19, 21:18
Its the diet mentality... I lost the weight now I'm done. Old eating habits never die.

We are never "done".