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nhelen79
18-01-20, 19:48
Hi all
My son is 12 months. When he was 3-4months, I noticed that the lymph nodes behind his ears are palable. I did bring up with his pediatrician and she didn’t think of anything after checking him. She didn’t even do any testing. She said you can feel baby lymph nodes. I let it go for the sanity of my health anxiety and stopped checking.

Now he is 12 months. 2 weeks ago he just had hand food mouth disease. I noticed last night that the lymph nodes are much prominent, especially behind the left ear. I brought him in and my doctor confirmed they are swollen on both sides but the left is more. She measured and they are about 0.5cm.

She said they are on both sides and since he is still recovering from his infection, she isn’t worried. However she scheduled an appt to recheck after 2 weeks and also blood tests to rule out. He is also teething..

My husband isn’t concerned. As a mom, I am.

So my concern is that normally can we feel lymph nodes behind baby ears even when he isn’t sick? In my son case now, he acting normal, eating normal, not losing weight. How long will it take for lymph nodes to go down or will they just stay up like that forever?

Thanks

ankietyjoe
18-01-20, 20:10
Your Doctor has already examined your son and answered this.

And for the record, as a Dad, we worry too where it's warranted :shades:

Carys
18-01-20, 20:27
Hiyer


since he is still recovering from his infection, she isn’t worried.

The nodes have done what they are meant to do, fight infection, he had an infection. Your son's immune system sounds like it is working very well. It also sounds like your GP is being very through and practical, so I think you can rest assured that they are taking all the right steps in responding to your concerns.

I know you are worried, I was a tremendous worrier with my daughter also, but you must be careful not to keep checking the nodes as the prodding alone can keep them inflammed. Also, as a parent (because I agree with Jo, the 'Mom' bit isn't relevant as such - some people take the word of the doctor and trust them, those with HA often don't and that is the difference between you and your husband, not the parental gender :winks:) you know your child better than anyone else and your judgement on if they are behaving normally and seem well in themselves is of great importance. You say...


In my son case now, he acting normal, eating normal, not losing weight.

....which is great.

I don't know how long nodes take to go down in adults, let alone children I am afraid, but suspect it depends on location, how bad the infection was individual differences. I think you just need to go with the advice, leave the nodes alone, monitor your child's 'wellness' and wait till you go back for the check. I also have no idea about prominence of nodes and how that presents in babies, I've honestly never felt or gone looking for one in myself or anyone else.

nhelen79
18-01-20, 20:30
Your Doctor has already examined your son and answered this.

And for the record, as a Dad, we worry too where it's warranted :shades:

I feel better after reading your reply. Thank you. I reread my post and yes, the Dr already explained why they are swelling up.

I guess my internal fears are the what if’s like what l if they don’t go down and stay the same. What if the blood tests turn out bad, those silly what ifs :(

My husband doesn’t have health anxiety so he was perfectly fine with the Dr explanation. Can I say dads are more reasonable when it comes to their kids? :)

Carys
18-01-20, 20:32
Can I say dads are more reasonable when it comes to their kids?

Nope , you can't say that either ! LOL Its not a gender issue - men and women have HA, men and women have different personalities which aren't gender defined.

nhelen79
18-01-20, 20:36
Hi Carys
The next 2 weeks will keep my mind busy But I will try not to look or check them because I know they won’t go down if I keep poking at them.

I know my anxiety so I avoid learning how to feel nodes. This time it was too obvious behind his ears. I can see the small lumps.

I feel like I’m watching over my kids like a hawk which is exhausting.

As long as the blood test is fine, then he shall be fine right?. The CBC blood count test is part of his annual blood tests that He needs, but she told me to give him one more week before I take him in for blood for his system to recover more

ankietyjoe
18-01-20, 20:37
Yeah when I had health anxiety I rushed my 7 year old to A&E because I thought his heart rate was too high after he'd just been swimming. 2 hours later and he was hooked up to an ECG, because of me. The Doctor had a swift word with me at the end, asking with some conviction if I could 'sort my sh1t' out. So I did.

nhelen79
18-01-20, 20:41
Nope , you can't say that either ! LOL Its not a gender issue - men and women have HA, men and women have different personalities which aren't gender defined.


True :) more like whoever have health anxiety is unreasonable. It’s always me in my family

Carys
18-01-20, 20:44
asking with some conviction if I could 'sort my sh1t' out. So I did.

:roflmao:Love this, good on that doctor !


As long as the blood test is fine, then he shall be fine right?. The CBC blood count test is part of his annual blood tests that He needs, but she told me to give him one more week before I take him in for blood for his system to recover more


I'm sorry, and I don't mean this rudely, but I'm no medic. Annual bloods, CBC blood count and things are not something I know about. I will say this though, what is your fear here, because something is driving your lymph node concern and has been since he was very young ? Does your baby already have annual bloods for a condition ?

ErinKC
18-01-20, 21:24
He just had a virus two weeks ago so that sounds normal to me. You could feel his nodes as a baby, so anatomically he may just have more prominent lymph nodes. My 5 year old just had an infection inside a lymph node and her node was 5cm! So, 0.5cm is nothing! Listen to the doctor.

Fishmanpa
18-01-20, 22:32
Yeah when I had health anxiety I rushed my 7 year old to A&E because I thought his heart rate was too high after he'd just been swimming. 2 hours later and he was hooked up to an ECG, because of me. The Doctor had a swift word with me at the end, asking with some conviction if I could 'sort my sh1t' out. So I did.

Very profound AJ and so very relevant and spot on. My daughter suffers from depression and anxiety. Most of it was inherited from her mother as my ex suffers from depression and hoarding. That said, I'm also 100% sure that the separation and divorce from her mother when she was 5yo played a large part in exasperating her condition.

Kids are WAY more perceptive and subsequently influenced than we give them credit for.

Positive thoughts

nhelen79
18-01-20, 23:53
I know about. I will say this though, what is your fear here, because something is driving your lymph node concern and has been since he was very young ? Does your baby already have annual bloods for a condition ?

Lymph nodes, blood count and moles scare me because I imagine the C words go with them. I’ve stop googling for years but the anxiety flares up more especially with kids. I’m afraid that since I discovered his nodes months back, I listened to his pediatrician and stopped checking. If it’s something bad now, it’s my fault for letting they grow in so many months till now. I understand it sounds very irrational but the thought it’s there.

nhelen79
18-01-20, 23:54
My 5 year old just had an infection inside a lymph node and her node was 5cm! So, 0.5cm is nothing! Listen to the doctor. Did it go down eventually? I heard that sometimes it stay.

nhelen79
18-01-20, 23:57
Very profound AJ and so very relevant and spot on. My daughter suffers from depression and anxiety. Most of it was inherited from her mother as my ex suffers from depression and hoarding. That said, I'm also 100% sure that the separation and divorce from her mother when she was 5yo played a large part in exasperating her condition.

Kids are WAY more perceptive and subsequently influenced than we give them credit for.

Positive thoughts

Positive thoughts

Hi Fishmanpa, I got what you mean here. I don’t check my older daughter anymore now that she is 6 and pay attention. I don’t want her to get obsessed with everything on her body. So I keep myself calm whenever she complains of something. For my younger son though, I still get super anxious whenever I discover something new like yesterday.

Fishmanpa
19-01-20, 00:22
Hi Fishmanpa, I got what you mean here. I don’t check my older daughter anymore now that she is 6 and pay attention. I don’t want her to get obsessed with everything on her body. So I keep myself calm whenever she complains of something. For my younger son though, I still get super anxious whenever I discover something new like yesterday.

I hear what you're saying as well but.... As an example, my ex and I were on rocky ground for a while prior to our separation. It was due to her depression and mental issues. There was no intimacy nor affection for quite some time. One day, our daughter asked us, "How come you and Mommy don't hug or kiss like other Mommys and Daddys?". We thought we were hiding things well but she picked up on it. We knew then we were really in trouble and I was able to convince her to go to marriage counseling. After a few sessions the therapist wanted to see us separately before we were in sessions together. She went for a few sessions and quit. I knew then it was over.

Just keep in mind, children are WAY more perceptive than we think and out actions and words have a profound impact on their lives. Don't get me wrong, there are positives too. One of the things I always taught my children is to do something in life you have a passion for. For me it was music. I never hit the jackpot but I made a decent living in the music industry and continue to do so part time to this day. My son always wanted to travel and see the world. He works for the airline and travels the world for free. My daughter loves little kids and she's a pre-school teacher. All I'm saying is mental issues can and do affect all those around us. If my ex had stuck out therapy and really tried to help herself, who knows what may have happened. But when I saw her give up on herself, I saw it as giving up on us.

Positive thoughts

NancyW
19-01-20, 01:34
When my youngest son was just a few years old I noticed a string of lymph nodes on one side of his neck, I became obsessed to the point that I took a flashlight into his room at night to look at his neck. I started to dress him in turtle neck shirts so I was not gawking at his neck all day.

I took him to the dr.. she said they were raised due to some recent virus and they would go down in 4 weeks. Well that set the timer in my head...and they were not gone in 4 weeks.

I was sick inside. During a bath one morning he said mommy my neck feels hot like the stove. I felt like a was struck by lightning. I took him right in to the dr. Saw a dr I didnt particularly care for so I was not happy. Dr examined him and looked at me squarely... I know what you're thinking and it's not. His lymph nodes enlarged due to a virus, sometimes they go down and sonetimes they scar and never go away.

It was exactly what I needed to hear, he set me straight. Eventually they went down a bit but I can still see them today if my son turns his head a certain way.. he's 26 years old.and healthy as an ox.

ErinKC
19-01-20, 16:02
Yes, it went down with antibiotics. I haven't felt it since, but the doctor did say that side may always be a bit larger than the other because of how much it stretched.

nhelen79
20-01-20, 20:04
I went back and checked his appointment notes. I did bring him in for a red bump check behind his left ear in September. Her diagnosis at that time was just skin rash. He also has been through 9-month and 12- month physical checkups and his pediatrician never once mentioned to me that his nodes behind his ears (specially left ear) are swollen. I can’t remember if she ever checked them during the physical checkup anymore.

I’m so mad at myself for believing her. What if the spot behind his left ear has always been swollen and I trusted her and let it go for 3 months? What’s kind of a mom I am if I’m not able to protect my own son? :( she’s a pediatrician from Standford and I trusted her.

I wanted to run and take him in for CBC blood count today but I remember my own doctor suggested to wait for 1 more week for his last viral infection completely goes away. I’m afraid to look behind his ears now because I get panic when I still see the node. It looks the same as on Sat. It doesn’t seem to go down any smaller.

All the what-ifs

nhelen79
20-01-20, 20:11
I hear what you're saying as well but....
Just keep in mind, children are WAY more perceptive than we think and out actions and words have a profound impact on their lives. Don't get me wrong, there are positives too. All I'm saying is mental issues can and do affect all those around us.

Positive thoughts

Fishmanpa, thank you for your advices. I really appreciate your words since I join this board years ago. I’ve been managing the health anxiety somewhat okay, better than in the past. I don’t run to doctors at every single thing that I notice on my kids. I actually am trying to follow their advices, but to be honest with you, the beast is like lurking around. It doesn’t go away. I tried therapy and didn’t work. I do talk it out with my husband and try to walk excercise. I don’t know what to do to completely erase it. When I was pregnant with my son and got pregnant-eclampsia, I was actually very calm although it could be a deadly condition for me.
After he was born, anxiety comes back

nhelen79
20-01-20, 20:13
Dr examined him and looked at me squarely... I know what you're thinking and it's not. His lymph nodes enlarged due to a virus, sometimes they go down and sonetimes they scar and never go away.

It was exactly what I needed to hear, he set me straight. Eventually they went down a bit but I can still see them today if my son turns his head a certain way.. he's 26 years old.and healthy as an ox.

My timer has started. I think I would be uneasy until his blood tests are ok.

nhelen79
20-01-20, 20:16
Yes, it went down with antibiotics. I haven't felt it since, but the doctor did say that side may always be a bit larger than the other because of how much it stretched.

Thanks. I hope it would be the same case for my son since he has been through a few infections last year which caused his nodes behind the ears stay large. My doctor said she would not be worried because both sides are swollen and no other places. I trust her the most so I have to take her words for now. I will switch my son to her care.

mama_of_3
20-01-20, 20:30
My son will be two at the end of March and for the past year or so I have been able to feel many of the lymph nodes in his neck, lower scalp area, and behind his ears. His pediatrician wasn’t at all concerned. He told me that at this age their lymphatic system weighs more than it ever will. It peaks around age 4 and then declines. That’s why as a adults our usually aren’t so easy to feel. I even asked my neighbor who is also a pediatrician (not our regular one) and he also wasn’t worried.

nhelen79
22-01-20, 01:22
My son will be two at the end of March and for the past year or so I have been able to feel many of the lymph nodes in his neck, lower scalp area, and behind his ears. His pediatrician wasn’t at all concerned. He told me that at this age their lymphatic system weighs more than it ever will. It peaks around age 4 and then declines. That’s why as a adults our usually aren’t so easy to feel. I even asked my neighbor who is also a pediatrician (not our regular one) and he also wasn’t worried.

Thanks Mama. I’m worried about his left one because I can see it. I don’t even need to feel it. Anyway, I need to distract myself while giving him one more week to recover from whatever he has before I do his blood tests. I avoid looking at it because it will trigger my worry.

NancyW
22-01-20, 01:37
I need to distract myself while giving him one more week to recover from whatever he has before I do his blood tests. I avoid looking at it because it will trigger my worry.

Did you read what I wrote? My son's pediatrician said nodes can scar and never go away.

Carys
22-01-20, 10:14
I have a scarred one under my jaw on one side, from a bad wisdom tooth infection some 30 years ago. Tis true.