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Meglen
21-09-20, 23:47
I am about 6 weeks out from my positive COVID test and I am having some odd symptoms. Racing heart/chest pains, numb toes, extreme fatigue are the main ones. I have seen a doctor for my heart and he said that COVID can cause heart problems so I had an ekg (good) and had to wear a halter monitor over the weekend (waiting on results) He is also going to do an ultrasound next week.
I have a doctor appt for the numbness as well but I am just hoping that goes away.
I am thankful that I had the mild case of Covid but now I am so afraid of what is to come.
Anyone else out there that had COVID and is now experiencing strange symptoms?

Gary A
22-09-20, 08:17
A lot of folk seem to be suffering from forms of viral fatigue after a Covid-19 infection. This is actually quite a well understood thing, it’s just your bodies way of feeling tired after a bit of a fight.

It’s good that your doctors are double checking you but try not to worry too much. They’re being thorough, as any doctor worth their salt should. Chances are you’re feeling an after effect that’ll simply fade away over the next few weeks.

ankietyjoe
22-09-20, 09:03
A friend of mine had Covid right at the start and had similar issues for 2-3 months afterwards. He seems fine now.

As Gary said, there is plenty of data showing this happening after a serious infection, Covid or not. I had a bad chest infection about 3-4 years ago and it took me several months to completely recover from it.

It's not a bad idea to quadruple your healthy eating routines, and cut out all the 'crap'. I did that after the infection and haven't been ill since. Actually, I exaggerate. I do eat 'crap' sometimes, but it's balanced out by eating 10-15 portions of veg/some fruit/day. I could go on about this (and often do), but it's crucial to good health both in terms of prevention and recovery.

WiredIncorrectly
22-09-20, 11:29
I'm 3 weeks in with my seasonal-flu/covid? and I'm having problems still. I tried to clean up yesterday and was so out of breath. I'm also having racing heart that isn't related to anxiety. Lots of dizziness going on and random headaches. I've been off the forums trying to get by. Just so tired all the time. Had an issue last night where my heart was racing so fast ended up vomiting and having diarrhea. But in general I still feel under the weather with a stupid cough that will not go away.

It can happen with regular chest infections, flu's and common viruses so for anyone reading this who has a negative test; or isn't able to get a test. Gary A is right, any serious infection can cause this.

Lencoboy
22-09-20, 17:50
I think there are quite a few 'normal' cold-type bugs doing the rounds ATM (at least here in the English Midlands). I have had a few odd feelings on and off over the past 2-3 weeks, though nothing serious, and so far (touch wood) none of the 3 key symptoms of CV.

I did feel a little nauseous yesterday evening but fine so far today, especially as tonight we went to the chippy and me and my parents have all wolfed down some delicious roe and chips!

Obviously, it's dead easy ATM to shoehorn Covid 19 into pretty much every single ailment one can poke a stick at, but in most instances the odds are it's most likely to be something else that we have all gone through before without even a second thought pre-Covid, especially if we have been following all the proper procedures from the off.

Whilst the current resurgence is most certainly a cause for concern, it's still important to remember that the vast majority of those who have had it so far have recovered, but we should still keep sticking to the proper rules, of course.

ankietyjoe
22-09-20, 18:50
There is definitely 'stuff' going around. My youngest has had a sore throat and cough the last couple of days, little bit tired. I woke up with a sore throat on Sunday morning but as usual for me now it was gone by the next day. Nothing sinister.

Lencoboy
22-09-20, 20:26
There is definitely 'stuff' going around. My youngest has had a sore throat and cough the last couple of days, little bit tired. I woke up with a sore throat on Sunday morning but as usual for me now it was gone by the next day. Nothing sinister.

Good for you and your youngest AJ.

For the record, both me and my parents shall be having a flu jab on Saturday morning (26th Sept). I know it's not necessarily a safeguard against Covid 19 per se, but might act as a potential safeguard against any related complications, and I dare say that the 'normal' seasonal flu might have the potential to exacerbate susceptibility to Covid 19.

This is only what I am surmising ATM, so please don't quote me on this.

ankietyjoe
22-09-20, 20:48
I have a pal (actually a kind of freelance colleague) that lives near Blackpool who posted a link this evening to news that a Covid vaccine trial (500 volunteers) would be started next week.

Not sure if I'd participate in this one, but at least it's progress.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/health/covid-19-vaccine-trials-start-blackpool-next-week-2978254?fbclid=IwAR1-xkX5_-fkvbStvyU4HL3Jc7C5I_bYOwbQAAzdt_uvLufE30hKPYsUHiw

WiredIncorrectly
23-09-20, 00:57
There are some issues I have with the Phase 3 test in Blackpool.

1) What vaccine is this?
2) Where are the statistics from phase II?
3) The study doesn't expose you to the virus. Which can only mean one thing ... genomics. The proof is actually in the pudding, and it's potentially the reason this study is a bit of a secret: https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/how-genomics-is-changing-vaccines/



Vaccination works by presenting a whole virus, or pieces of it, to the immune system without causing an infection. This triggers the body to produce antibodies specific to the virus so that the body is primed to act immediately if it encounters the real virus in the future. With the Covid-19 pandemic sparking a worldwide effort to develop a working vaccine safely and at speed, many researchers are turning to a new method of triggering the body’s immune response, using strands of synthetic RNA.


That's messing directly with DNA. That is something we as humans shouldn't be messing about with. I know most people will read this and not care; because the alternative is better. There was a time people wasn't desensitized to genomics and would be in uproar.

Scary stuff because as of yet there are no RNA vaccines that have been approved to my knowledge. It raises huge ethical questions and opens the flood gates to more DNA altering treatments.

But, we'll be told it's required ... because COVID.

WiredIncorrectly
23-09-20, 01:35
Still flabbergasted if I'm honest. I'm going to write a blog entry on this. I do know a little about RNA and DNA, and how RNA can directly affect DNA. You won't be told this in the newspaper and I hope to God the people embarking on the trial are made aware of this.

Let me just reiterate something. There are no RNA or DNA vaccines approved for human use. And there's a reason for this. The mRNA strand in synthetic vaccines can cause the immune system to act in undefined ways; to which there will be no fix.

I will bet my life this is an RNA vaccine.

By the way, it's the NHS's plan to recruit half a million people for trials (what's a stakeholder pack?): https://www.kentcht.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Vaccine-registry-stakeholder-pack-for-COVID-19.pdf

ankietyjoe
23-09-20, 08:57
What you eat affects your DNA.

None of us here knows nearly enough to form a legitimate opinion on whether this vaccine is a good or bad thing. Even with lots of self research.

WiredIncorrectly
23-09-20, 12:52
What you eat affects your DNA.

None of us here knows nearly enough to form a legitimate opinion on whether this vaccine is a good or bad thing. Even with lots of self research.

There's are reason RNA and DNA altering vaccines are not fit for humans.

ankietyjoe
23-09-20, 13:56
There's are reason RNA and DNA altering vaccines are not fit for humans.

And there might be reasons that in this case and this scenario it is a good idea.

You (and nobody else here) is remotely qualified to form a viable opinion about it. Doesn't matter how much online research you've done.

Imagine the scenario 70 years ago when some dude came along and said 'so your cancer, what we're gonna do is inject you with radiation.....'

Meglen
23-09-20, 18:19
Thank you, I agree! I will eat healthy 90% of the time and continue to do daily workouts.

Gary A
23-09-20, 20:46
And there might be reasons that in this case and this scenario it is a good idea.

You (and nobody else here) is remotely qualified to form a viable opinion about it. Doesn't matter how much online research you've done.

Imagine the scenario 70 years ago when some dude came along and said 'so your cancer, what we're gonna do is inject you with radiation.....'

Very true and very well said. Medicine needs to venture into the unknown to keep progressing, if we had shied away from every new advancement because we didn’t fully understand it we would still be sawing legs off and using leeches.

WiredIncorrectly
23-09-20, 21:05
Wow. I don't mean to offend anybody here but the talk of condoning an RNA vaccine is absolutely stupid.

And Joe, I find your comments rather ignorant. I thought you were more logical than that pal.

Non of what I said is conspiracy, yet you speak as though RNA vaccines are just that.

ankietyjoe
23-09-20, 21:55
Wow. I don't mean to offend anybody here but the talk of condoning an RNA vaccine is absolutely stupid.

And Joe, I find your comments rather ignorant. I thought you were more logical than that pal.

Non of what I said is conspiracy, yet you speak as though RNA vaccines are just that.


1) Nobody was offended.

2) Did anybody mention conspiracy? :huh:

3) I'm merely pointing out that you are claiming that this medicine is a terrible idea based on....your internet research? I'm not putting you down J, but you (and nobody else here) knows what they're talking about in terms of RNA/DNA vaccine trials. It's not about logic, it's just about being informed.

I think sometimes when somebody has more than two brain cells to rub together (you, for example), it's easy to get into the habit of reading and understanding a lot of information. What's also easy to miss is that you only learn the information you've come across, where the actual topic you're studying is massively more complex than the snapshots you've absorbed. That's not belittling what you know, it's just highlighting what you possibly don't know. It would take you 7-10 years to actually become an expert in this, so do you really feel you're in a position to declare this a bad idea based on a bit of web searching? I think you know what I'm trying to say here.

Lencoboy
24-09-20, 08:58
Very true and very well said. Medicine needs to venture into the unknown to keep progressing, if we had shied away from every new advancement because we didn’t fully understand it we would still be sawing legs off and using leeches.

I totally agree with you.

I'm not specifically referring to anyone on here but there are sadly a lot of know-it-alls amongst the general public who seem to revel in misinfo and also politicising every aspect of this pandemic, which is actually hindering the progress in trying to address it.

And you're correct, Gary, in the sense that we can't just keep avoiding every new advancement in the medical field just in case something went wrong on just one or two persons, and of course to appease the serial antivaxxers and CTers, there would be barely any progress at all.

After all, every medical solution throughout history has started off as 'trial-and-error'.

ankietyjoe
24-09-20, 11:35
Online research also tends to lead you to gravitate towards the evidence you want to believe in, intentional or not.