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phil06
17-10-20, 23:39
In my street somebody wrote some graffiti I called the police and reported it to the council but feel stressed as it's made a mess and makes the place untidy. Will the council clean it or will maintenance team who go the grass cutting do it as we pay fees for repairs? My worst nightmare is they leave it don't clean it.

MyNameIsTerry
18-10-20, 00:36
I think the council send out one of their guys to clean. I know around here it's on a list of things like fly tipping you can report through the local council site and if you are signed up they give you updates.

NoraB
18-10-20, 07:51
Graffiti really grinds my gears. As do poo bags littering the streets, and now disposable face masks!

As for the pissheads who seem to think that my shrubs are there to house their empty Carling cans... (my bins are literally yards away, I would rather they used those because they are bins)

That said, if Banksy was to do a doodle on my back gate - I wouldn't be offended. :winks:

Lencoboy
18-10-20, 10:25
Graffiti has been one of my biggest bugbears for donkeys years, though thankfully, our estate is virtually devoid of it.

It appears to be one of many 'elephant in the room' issues that surely most people disapprove of but have never really taken it that seriously. Sadly many people over the years have considered graffiti to be well down on their lists of 'priority' issues, including many local authorities.

On the other hand, I read on the Historic Hansard website a debate in Parliament from 2002 where one MP claimed that the local authority in his constituency were sued by a utility firm for removing graffiti from one of their large utility 'sheds' located in that particular settlement, and my immediate thought was they (the utility firm) were penalising the wrong people who wanted to rid their area of the graffiti blight rather than attempt to penalise the morons responsible for the defacement of said property.

Shows how ungrateful the utility firm were, seemingly unconcerned about their property being defaced but indignant at the local council for interfering with their property by removing the unsightly graffiti, and inadvertently sueing them.

Really smacks of brainless double standards from said utility firm as far as I'm concerned!

Fishmanpa
18-10-20, 19:51
My worst nightmare is they leave it don't clean it.

Worse than bin and toilet germs, social media, traveling and footballers at parties? :huh:



My worst nightmare is they leave it don't clean it.

Then get out there and clean it up! Post before and after photos :yesyes:

Positive thoughts

Carys
18-10-20, 21:34
My worst nightmare is they leave it don't clean it.


Sheeez that's your 'worst nightmare' ?

AntsyVee
19-10-20, 02:27
What did the graffiti say?

MyNameIsTerry
19-10-20, 05:08
I think phil has let his cover slip - he's Banksy. All that effort to be tagged in seconds by the locals.

NoraB
19-10-20, 07:46
Sheeez that's your 'worst nightmare' ?

Mine is that Hub's underpants will crawl out of the washer and suffocate me to death before I've had chance to hit boil wash! :unsure:

ankietyjoe
19-10-20, 08:57
My worst nightmare is they leave it don't clean it.

I aspire to having so little to worry about.

BlueIris
19-10-20, 09:03
Agreed. Seriously, it might be a bit unsightly (or might not) but really, it's not endangering anybody, and I think the councils probably have more important things to spend their money on right now.

phil06
19-10-20, 11:30
I offered to pay it to be cleaned up out my own pocket but I got in touch with an estate agent but can’t do anything without permission. The council won’t usually touch it as it’s private properly they said but because it’s offensive football graffiti they may remove it and bill the flats as it fades onto a council nursery. My local newspaper also wanted a photo to run the story.

phil06
19-10-20, 11:31
It has resulted in me enquiring about burglar alarms and cctv though

phil06
19-10-20, 11:42
Worse than bin and toilet germs, social media, traveling and footballers at parties? :huh:




Then get out there and clean it up! Post before and after photos :yesyes:

Positive thoughts
Yes I would love to but been warned not my property so probably can't that's why I have to chase my local council up.

phil06
19-10-20, 12:36
My local paper posted it my mum worries they will come back no target again? If I get more security they may target my house?

Lolalee1
19-10-20, 12:50
You will be on the hit list now Phil:D

phil06
19-10-20, 12:51
You will be on the hit list now Phil:D

Yes well this is a bit of worry they come back?

MyNameIsTerry
19-10-20, 12:51
Tell the newspaper you want to remain anonymous. They will just write 'a resident' or nothing about who has complained.

Try not to let thoughts about them targeting you get to you. It's natural to consider it but remember to stay logical about it because anyone could have reported it. Besides they may not come back to see it gone, read that paper or have the brains too.

Let the council sort it.

phil06
19-10-20, 13:02
Tell the newspaper you want to remain anonymous. They will just write 'a resident' or nothing about who has complained.

Try not to let thoughts about them targeting you get to you. It's natural to consider it but remember to stay logical about it because anyone could have reported it. Besides they may not come back to see it gone, read that paper or have the brains too.

Let the council sort it.

Thanks Terry they never gave my name only that it was reported to police at 9pm. It said they heard reports that all it said. My mum still worries they could target the street but they tackled another area of town the article mentions that plus my street.

If I get camera door bell or camera or burglar alarm hopefully they don't pick up why I got it.

NoraB
19-10-20, 13:38
My local paper posted it my mum worries they will come back no target again? If I get more security they may target my house?

Any undesirables lurking outside my house, and I unleash the hound!

AntsyVee
20-10-20, 04:33
I still want to know what is was... :lac:

MyNameIsTerry
20-10-20, 06:25
I still want to know what is was... :lac:

Donald Trump to be crowned king of Scotland. First royal decree, as modelled by the new king, to be the introduction of the 'mini kilt'

https://yoursmiles.org/psmile/king/p0616.gif

Carys
20-10-20, 09:44
Yeah, me too Antsy ! :roflmao:I shouldn't care really, but ya know......

Lencoboy
20-10-20, 17:33
Agreed. Seriously, it might be a bit unsightly (or might not) but really, it's not endangering anybody, and I think the councils probably have more important things to spend their money on right now.

Precisely one of the main reasons graffiti has been out of control for years in many areas is the 'it's not that important' kind of attitude, even during more favourable economic/financial climates.

I'm sure some of you have heard of the 'Broken Windows Theory'

BTW, I don't mean to have digs at you personally, BlueIris.

Pamplemousse
20-10-20, 17:40
I offered to pay it to be cleaned up out my own pocket but I got in touch with an estate agent but can’t do anything without permission.

Jeez, if you've got money to burn like that you can settle my corporation tax bill for me. It's only a few thousand.

BlueIris
20-10-20, 17:44
It's okay, Lenco, I get what you're saying, it's just that personally, I don't have a problem with graffiti. You're looking at disenfranchised people taking back the urban landscape any way they can. Sure, some of it's just tagging but if you look around, there's also some pretty interesting social commentary.

I don't want to live my life hating and disparaging my species the way you seem to.

Lencoboy
20-10-20, 18:20
It's okay, Lenco, I get what you're saying, it's just that personally, I don't have a problem with graffiti. You're looking at disenfranchised people taking back the urban landscape any way they can. Sure, some of it's just tagging but if you look around, there's also some pretty interesting social commentary.

I don't want to live my life hating and disparaging my species the way you seem to.

I do kind of see your point, BlueIris, and I can reason with some of your comments.

I agree that some graffitists (e.g, Banksy) are very talented, and their efforts can work well if, when and where done appropriately, and many murals can be works of art, but obviously in context with the situation.

But if it's just ordinary 'tit-for-tat' tags or even worse, tags whose subject matter is potentially offensive/ sensitive, I can't be doing with them.

Sorry, but 'disenfrancisement' and freedom of expression is no get-out clause as far as I'm concerned.

AntsyVee
20-10-20, 21:31
Donald Trump to be crowned king of Scotland. First royal decree, as modelled by the new king, to be the introduction of the 'mini kilt'

https://yoursmiles.org/psmile/king/p0616.gif

I was hoping it was more along the lines of “All Hail Vee” or Viva la Vee”. But I do believe I will steal that emoji. It seems to have been designed for me.

phil06
20-10-20, 21:37
It was football graffiti for those who asked

Lencoboy
20-10-20, 22:10
It was football graffiti for those who asked

Not in any way attempting to trivialise the daubings in your street, but footie-related graffiti tags are hardly exclusive to early 2020s Britain and have been a thing for decades AFAIK.

Still dead pathetic though.

AntsyVee
21-10-20, 03:51
It was football graffiti for those who asked

No one wants graffiti, but at least it's not gang tagging. It's just people being a bit over-zealous. It's not a crime issue.

Lolalee1
21-10-20, 03:54
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NoraB
21-10-20, 08:05
No one wants graffiti, but at least it's not gang tagging. It's just people being a bit over-zealous. It's not a crime issue.

What Banksy does is criminal damage - except his graffiti is street art which is thoughtfully applied and there are generally aesthetic and financial gains.

Manchester is full of street art - we've got bumblebees, Blue Tits and all sorts, and it looks amazing! It adds to the atmosphere of Manchester. However, seeing Kez luvs Kyleeeeeeeeeeeeeee scrawled on someone's back wall, on street signs or bus shelters is about as aesthetically pleasing as a toe fungus. :huh:

Lencoboy
21-10-20, 13:47
What Banksy does is criminal damage - except his graffiti is street art which is thoughtfully applied and there are generally aesthetic and financial gains.

Manchester is full of street art - we've got bumblebees, Blue Tits and all sorts, and it looks amazing! It adds to the atmosphere of Manchester. However, seeing Kez luvs Kyleeeeeeeeeeeeeee scrawled on someone's back wall, on street signs or bus shelters is about as aesthetically pleasing as a toe fungus. :huh:

It does seem that the the once-ubiquitous tags that read 'X loves Y 4 eva', 'Z woz 'ere', etc, daubed on street fixtures, and on the back of toilet cubicle doors, etc, have become less commonplace over the past 10-15 years or so, at least in my area.

I wonder if it's likely to be down to the growth and increasing prevalence of smartphones, social media and the like over the same period that has distracted more youngsters from indulging in such ritual tagging activities?

Other forms of graffiti tagging, such as in the sides of motorways, train tracks, etc, appear to have remained more or less constant over the same period, with many often being undecipherable.

pulisa
21-10-20, 13:50
It was football graffiti for those who asked

Rangers or Celtic?

MyNameIsTerry
22-10-20, 06:24
Rangers or Celtic?

Definitely get it removed quickly then before the opposition see it...

MyNameIsTerry
22-10-20, 06:28
It does seem that the the once-ubiquitous tags that read 'X loves Y 4 eva', 'Z woz 'ere', etc, daubed on street fixtures, and on the back of toilet cubicle doors, etc, have become less commonplace over the past 10-15 years or so, at least in my area.

I wonder if it's likely to be down to the growth and increasing prevalence of smartphones, social media and the like over the same period that has distracted more youngsters from indulging in such ritual tagging activities?

Other forms of graffiti tagging, such as in the sides of motorways, train tracks, etc, appear to have remained more or less constant over the same period, with many often being undecipherable.

Some cracking political ones about if you Google Boris.

Let's hope whoever tagged over Banksy recently doesn't go on holiday to Northern Ireland. Tagging over those blokes holding AK-47s would start a riot the police wouldn't want to turn up too. Still, he'd never make out of the street alive...

NoraB
22-10-20, 06:59
I wonder if it's likely to be down to the growth and increasing prevalence of smartphones, social media and the like over the same period that has distracted more youngsters from indulging in such ritual tagging activities?

I suppose they're all slagging each off on WhatsApp and duck-facing on Instagram - less time to draw on walls.:yesyes:


Other forms of graffiti tagging, such as in the sides of motorways, train tracks, etc, appear to have remained more or less constant over the same period, with many often being undecipherable.

On one motorway bridge there was a 'Kez loves Kyleeeeeeee' type scrawl in MASSIVE letters (albeit skew-whiff) - only one day the girl's name had been painted over. (oopsie) :unsure:

When love breaks down it's easier to update your Facebook status to 'single' or 'it's complicated', rather than have to haul ya ass, and aerosol cans, to the motorway bridge in the early hours of the morning...:whistles:

Lencoboy
22-10-20, 09:35
I suppose they're all slagging each off on WhatsApp and duck-facing on Instagram - less time to draw on walls.:yesyes:


On one motorway bridge there was a 'Kez loves Kyleeeeeeee' type scrawl in MASSIVE letters (albeit skew-whiff) - only one day the girl's name had been painted over. (oopsie) :unsure:

When love breaks down it's easier to update your Facebook status to 'single' or 'it's complicated', rather than have to haul ya ass, and aerosol cans, to the motorway bridge in the early hours of the morning...:whistles:

At least (re your last paragraph) it's less tags to ruin the environment and we're inadvertently spared the torment of having to look at them face to face!

At least the older 'Z woz 'ere'-type tags, though still a nuisance, were more easily understood, more relatable, and more unique to the persons who actually wrote them, whereas most of today's 'tit-for-tat' tags are barely intelligible and appear to look very samey, and the latter graffiti type has seemingly become more prevalent since at least the latter half of the 90s, though I never really took that much notice of graffiti in general until after about 1995 or so.

Also general anti-social behaviour from others didn't really start to register with me until after then either.

BlueIris
22-10-20, 09:42
...Torment?

NoraB
23-10-20, 08:44
At least the older 'Z woz 'ere'-type tags, though still a nuisance, were more easily understood, more relatable,

I had a job as a cleaner once. It involved tackling the men's loos (always a pleasure, not) and one day somebody scrawled, 'I'd shag the cleaner' on the cubicle door. I think they meant me, though they could also have been referring to the previous cleaner who was 65, and a bloke. :shrug:

MyNameIsTerry
23-10-20, 08:56
I had a job as a cleaner once. It involved tackling the men's loos (always a pleasure, not) and one day somebody scrawled, 'I'd shag the cleaner' on the cubicle door. I think they meant me, though they could also have been referring to the previous cleaner who was 65, and a bloke. :shrug:

:roflmao: Now that's appreciation! :yesyes:

The cleaners at the last big office I was at always said the women were the worst. I felt sorry for them having to put up with scummy people.

My mum cleaned at a school in her later years. She said the kids were cleaner than the teachers :ohmy:

NoraB
23-10-20, 10:06
:roflmao: Now that's appreciation! :yesyes:

The cleaners at the last big office I was at always said the women were the worst. I felt sorry for them having to put up with scummy people.

My mum cleaned at a school in her later years. She said the kids were cleaner than the teachers :ohmy:

I've cleaned in a school too - which was sweet because the kids were pre-school age. Aww. This was in stark contrast to cleaning in a warehouse during the noon shift where the average worker was about 20, and male.

I think the lads took bets on how long it would take for me to complain, or quit...

One male left The Sun (open at Page 3) and a vending cup in toilet cubicle containing clear liquid with pubes floating in it. I mean, I've seen some sinister stuff drop out of that vending machine but that was a first! :unsure:

They left their Nuts mags open on the canteen tables hoping to embarrass me, but I stood there reading them on my break. :yesyes:

I sometimes have flashbacks of having to boot the Gent's door open with my size 4 whist simultaneously firing two cans of Pine Fresh around (Lara Croft style) to prevent me slipping into an ammonia induced coma. That, and the knowledge that blokes eat pies while they're sat on the loo having a poo and reading the paper. Who says men can't multitask? :yesyes:

Lencoboy
23-10-20, 14:45
I've cleaned in a school too - which was sweet because the kids were pre-school age. Aww. This was in stark contrast to cleaning in a warehouse during the noon shift where the average worker was about 20, and male.

I think the lads took bets on how long it would take for me to complain, or quit...

One male left The Sun (open at Page 3) and a vending cup in toilet cubicle containing clear liquid with pubes floating in it. I mean, I've seen some sinister stuff drop out of that vending machine but that was a first! :unsure:

They left their Nuts mags open on the canteen tables hoping to embarrass me, but I stood there reading them on my break. :yesyes:

I sometimes have flashbacks of having to boot the Gent's door open with my size 4 whist simultaneously firing two cans of Pine Fresh around (Lara Croft style) to prevent me slipping into an ammonia induced coma. That, and the knowledge that blokes eat pies while they're sat on the loo having a poo and reading the paper. Who says men can't multitask? :yesyes:

That's really gross Nora.

I really don't understand why grown men who should ultimately know better still keep behaving in a disgusting, child-like manner around toilets and the like, and I say that as a man myself.

The very thought of sitting on the crapper having a number 2 and eating at the same time makes me heave, even on our own home toilets.

As for pornography and nudity, it's nothing but a bore-fest as far as I am concerned, but a lot of blokes got up to and often got away with all kinds of dubious antics back in the (not-so) good old days in many workplaces, especially with women ending up on the receiving end of sexual harassment and many other kinds of abuse, which would be much more difficult to get away with in these more enlightened times, and quite rightly so!

NoraB
23-10-20, 15:02
That's really gross Nora.

Tell me about it!

Women can be just as bad in the sexual harassment field. Or they used to be, anyway. I've seen middle-aged women set upon young blokes like a pack of horny hyenas. (I blame HRT)

Best part was (cleaning) that the managers and supervisors used those toilets and never said a word..

To be honest, I think I have PTSD. I can't look at a Ginsters without having a flashback. :scared15:

Lencoboy
23-10-20, 19:10
Tell me about it!

Women can be just as bad in the sexual harassment field. Or they used to be, anyway. I've seen middle-aged women set upon young blokes like a pack of horny hyenas. (I blame HRT)

Best part was (cleaning) that the managers and supervisors used those toilets and never said a word..

To be honest, I think I have PTSD. I can't look at a Ginsters without having a flashback. :scared15:

I think a lot of us Aspies have some kind of PTSD. I still really feel for you over the emotional abuse and humiliation you suffered from one of your school teachers over your sewing efforts that you mentioned the other day in one of the other threads.

She treated you as a loser, but she was actually a loser herself!!

pulisa
23-10-20, 19:46
ASD and PTSD is a lethal combination which is not understood by many psychiatrists/psychologists. My son was hospitalised and sectioned (eventually) as a result of a traumatic life event and has pulled out 10 teeth. I hope that there is greater understanding of this horrendous distress in the future..If I do one thing it will be to educate professionals on the dangers of downplaying trauma in autistic people

Pamplemousse
23-10-20, 20:42
Tell me about it!

Women can be just as bad in the sexual harassment field. Or they used to be, anyway. I've seen middle-aged women set upon young blokes like a pack of horny hyenas. (I blame HRT)

I've seen a young bloke terrified by a pissed hen party on a train - so much that he made his excuses and left, to a chorus of abuse.

I've also seen it in the workplace. Whomsoever does it, it's not a pretty sight and it's inexcusable.

dorabella
23-10-20, 22:37
Funny how most of the incidences of vandalism and scummy behaviour cited involve men .... women can be just as bad. My office is on a university campus in London, and I can tell you that the female loos on a daily basis continue to shock me. Same graffiti on the back of the loo doors (most of it is rather PC but still offensive to a rational mind), loo basins full to overflowing with detritus of indescribable origin - I can't bring myself to elaborate on how used sanitary items are strewn about. Drinks cans, sandwich wrappers where students have eaten their lunch in there .... you can even hear them on their mobile phones whilst engaged in toiletary business.....

I firmly believe that together with all the other training that these young people undergo when beginning university life, they should be forced into toilet etiquette training .. something they have obviously never been taught at home. My mum always cited the mantra 'leave a place as you would wish to find it'.... some of these female students must come from absolute shit-holes ... or else they have an over-indulgent parent (or housemaid) cleaning up after them.

NoraB
24-10-20, 07:04
I think a lot of us Aspies have some kind of PTSD. I still really feel for you over the emotional abuse and humiliation you suffered from one of your school teachers over your sewing efforts that you mentioned the other day in one of the other threads.

She treated you as a loser, but she was actually a loser herself!!

Yeah. That one's stuck with me. The emotions I get when I think of that are still very powerful - all these years later. Some people shouldn't work with children, and she was one such person.

NoraB
24-10-20, 07:38
I've also seen it in the workplace. Whomsoever does it, it's not a pretty sight and it's inexcusable.

Once upon a time this kind of Sid James, et al, behaviour was considered 'the norm' and part of factory life. I remember a factory job where a bloke used to walk up behind women using the vending machine and he'd touch their boobs. I overheard one of the women talking about it and another said. 'Oh that's just 'Bob' he's harmless'. :unsure: What's more, this guy's partner worked in the same place - albeit on a different shift. :ohmy:

AntsyVee
24-10-20, 17:45
Once upon a time this kind of Sid James, et al, behaviour was considered 'the norm' and part of factory life. I remember a factory job where a bloke used to walk up behind women using the vending machine and he'd touch their boobs. I overheard one of the women talking about it and another said. 'Oh that's just 'Bob' he's harmless'. :unsure: What's more, this guy's partner worked in the same place - albeit on a different shift. :ohmy:

I think that was the norm in many industries. There is a lot of residual sexism even today. How many times do we hear "like a girl" or hear men call each other "ladies" as an insult? How many times do we see effeminate men picked on because they're "like" women? In the minds of many, anything associated with femininity is automatically negative.

MyNameIsTerry
25-10-20, 01:20
I think that was the norm in many industries. There is a lot of residual sexism even today. How many times do we hear "like a girl" or hear men call each other "ladies" as an insult? How many times do we see effeminate men picked on because they're "like" women? In the minds of many, anything associated with femininity is automatically negative.

The same with slurs about men being gay when straight.

But women do all that too. And they, just as men do, make remarks about other women being masculine in looks or behaviour.

Working in offices flirting was something that happened all the time. I can definitely think of the 'HRT women' mentioned with new younger lads. It was like this Harry Enfield sketch...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBIOmd-F9k

...:ohmy::blush::roflmao:

NoraB
25-10-20, 07:36
I can definitely think of the 'HRT women' mentioned with new younger lads. It was like this Harry Enfield sketch...

I love that sketch! :yesyes:

The menopause is Mother Nature's way of taking us away from reproduction and into a life of comfort fit and Werther's. We are supposed to 'fade away' and only be attractive to our husbands (who will basically say anything to ensure a homemade meat and potato pie) or to young blokes who like prefer their ladies to be of a certain vintage.

They created a monster when they started pumping middle-aged women full of pregnant mare's wee. Great for women who have been given a new lease of life, but not so great for young lads in work environments - especially factories.

It's like watching a lion take down a gazelle..:scared15:

Lolalee1
25-10-20, 09:19
I went into a public dunny today something that I rarely do and was blown away by what was scratched into the dunny door Debbie done Dubbo 2019,Dubbo is a big major city now.:roflmao:

Lencoboy
25-10-20, 10:05
I went into a public dunny today something that I rarely do and was blown away by what was scratched into the dunny door Debbie done Dubbo 2019,Dubbo is a big major city now.:roflmao:

There will still always be the odd exceptions I suppose.

Back in the late 90s and during the most part of the 2000s I remember the doors and partitions in the Gents at our local tenpin bowling place were plastered head to toe with all kinds of tags scratched into them, dating back to at least 1995 or so, when the place was still only 5 years old.

Nowadays the same toilets are more or less devoid of graffiti and vandalism in any form, and have been pretty much since the late 2000s, and have been refurbished twice since about 2006 or so.

phil06
25-10-20, 18:21
I should add the council have agreed to clean it up but it may not be until November.

Carys
25-10-20, 21:16
.......and its already the end of October, so thats very prompt if you ask me.

NoraB
26-10-20, 06:00
I went into a public dunny today something that I rarely do and was blown away by what was scratched into the dunny door Debbie done Dubbo 2019,Dubbo is a big major city now.:roflmao:

Maybe Debbie got HRT? :yesyes:

Lencoboy
26-10-20, 17:13
I should add the council have agreed to clean it up but it may not be until November.

And probably have to do a gazillion H & S risk assessments beforehand!

Lolalee1
27-10-20, 09:11
Maybe Debbie got HRT? :yesyes:

Maybe Debbie got some crabs and.....:roflmao:

NoraB
27-10-20, 11:58
Maybe Debbie got some crabs and.....:roflmao:

You know when somebody starts talking about headlice and you start scratching ya head? :ohmy: :roflmao:

AntsyVee
27-10-20, 20:49
You know when somebody starts talking about headlice and you start scratching ya head? :ohmy: :roflmao:

:roflmao:Dude, that is the worst! Especially when you work in a school!

phil06
30-10-20, 23:05
I got an email today to say it was cleaned but seems it was sent in error as it wasn’t cleaned. The factoring company have offered to clean it if council fails to. This is good news bad news is any new national lockdown may delay any clean up. I am not sure if they will still work under a new lockdown.

AntsyVee
30-10-20, 23:12
It's outside, I'm sure it'll get cleaned up even in lockdown. And yes, it looks bad I'm sure, but it's not hurting you or threatening anyone, so let it go for now.

phil06
30-10-20, 23:14
It's outside, I'm sure it'll get cleaned up even in lockdown. And yes, it looks bad I'm sure, but it's not hurting you or threatening anyone, so let it go for now.

Thanks maybe you are right. My street still got grass cut over lockdown as they still worked outside :)

AntsyVee
30-10-20, 23:26
Yup. Or if you want to do a good deed and help out the community, you could go out and clean it or paint over it.

MyNameIsTerry
31-10-20, 01:47
Public services have been delayed as belts have been tightened and crews have been left without people they need e.g. bin lorries didn't have drivers back in May in my city.

If it's rude they will get it done with a complaint in place. Give them time.

Lencoboy
11-11-20, 10:38
Last week some moron drew a large picture of male genitals on the exterior wall of one of our local shops and when I informed the woman behind the till of it she responded in a very dismissive manner, and said 'it's the way of the world today, so get over it'.

Not only smacks of a defeatist attitude, but is basically giving in to those idiots who routinely go around defacing property, which can sometimes lead to more serious problems in the future.

Far too many heads in the sand IMO.

NoraB
11-11-20, 10:42
Last week some moron drew a large picture of male genitals on the exterior wall of one of our local shops and when I informed the woman behind the till of it she responded in a very dismissive manner, and said 'it's the way of the world today, so get over it'

Methinks she wouldn't be as blasé if somebody drew a big ol' penis and balls on her front door.....:unsure:

Lencoboy
11-11-20, 11:25
Methinks she wouldn't be as blasé if somebody drew a big ol' penis and balls on her front door.....:unsure:

Perhaps not but she did come across as a 'can't-be-bothered'-type who considers issues such as graffiti unimportant. Therefore it becomes a vicious circle where people just give up complaining and simply have no choice but to tolerate such things because naïve property owners, local authorities, etc, consider things like graffiti and vandalism in general too trivial in the grand scheme of things, when it's actually a blight on the environment which can cause many to feel intimidated, but to most people, unfortunately, it's just another 'elephant in the room'.

AntsyVee
11-11-20, 18:40
Why is it always cock n balls? Why isn't anyone drawing vaginas??! So much for equality :lac:

MyNameIsTerry
12-11-20, 05:22
Why is it always cock n balls? Why isn't anyone drawing vaginas??! So much for equality :lac:

Dunno. But is It the women drawing them?

(Surely the obvious answer is it's men? As if we would be able to draw the things properly without studying at med school first :winks:)

NoraB
12-11-20, 06:45
Why is it always cock n balls? Why isn't anyone drawing vaginas??! So much for equality :lac:

How would you draw a vagina and it be obvious it's a vagina, like is the case with cock 'n' balls? I mean, I hear the word 'vagina and vulva' I immediately think of a supermassive black holes and kebabs. :huh:

AntsyVee
12-11-20, 20:56
Cock n balls could also be any number of things, like a cactus or a sai. I just think we need to try a little harder to come up with crude drawings of vaginas :P People have no imagination.

And what is the male obsession with drawing cock n balls? When I teach the younger kids (11-13), the boys draw them on everything. It's like you're all afraid it'll drop off if you don't draw it enough or something.

NoraB
13-11-20, 06:29
It's like you're all afraid it'll drop off if you don't draw it enough or something.

Hubs is almost 50 and still likes to do that thing where a bloke puts his undies on and makes a massive show of adjusting his tackle, you know?

I don't think me saying, 'Is it taking longer to tuck your bits in because they're heading south Dear? - is the reaction he's hoping for. :roflmao:

AntsyVee
13-11-20, 20:47
Maybe he wants you to lend him a hand, Nora ;)

NoraB
14-11-20, 05:34
Maybe he wants you to lend him a hand, Nora ;)

When he catches me staring at him (albeit in disbelief) as he jiggles 'the boys' into place - his response is generally, 'Does this do it for ya babeh?' :D

AntsyVee
14-11-20, 07:11
When he catches me staring at him (albeit in disbelief) as he jiggles 'the boys' into place - his response is generally, 'Does this do it for ya babeh?' :D

LMAO...guess you gotta humor him somehow ;)

Lolalee1
14-11-20, 10:46
5225:roflmao:For you Nora :D

NoraB
15-11-20, 06:51
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Lencoboy
17-11-20, 18:40
That genital graffiti still remains present outside our local shop, so it looks like the management are totally uninterested in dealing with it. If I were the store manager I would have had a tin of exterior paint at the ready, rather than just ignore the problem and shrug it off with remarks such as 'it's a sign of the times', 'it's not that important', etc.

They also can't be bothered to enforce in-store mask wearing and social distancing, which further demonstrates their 'don't really give a damn' attitude.

Nevertheless, the interior of said shop is generally clean and orderly in appearance.

AntsyVee
17-11-20, 20:30
OMG, LB, it would be hilarious if you went out and sprayed a vagina next to it. If they asked why you were doing that, you could be like, "Hey, you wouldnt clean off the cock n balls, I'm just making things equal here." LOL

Lolalee1
18-11-20, 09:24
5227Here is some sea shells you can put on the wall next to the cock and balls.:D

Lencoboy
18-11-20, 09:24
OMG, LB, it would be hilarious if you went out and sprayed a vagina next to it. If they asked why you were doing that, you could be like, "Hey, you wouldnt clean off the cock n balls, I'm just making things equal here." LOL

Well that's exactly the point, graffiti begets even more graffiti if left untended/unchecked. That's what the authorities and property owners often fail to comprehend. This issue in general has bugged me for donkeys years.

Surely some of you must have heard of the 'Broken Windows' theory?

MyNameIsTerry
18-11-20, 14:51
Draw around it so it becomes a face :yesyes:

MyNameIsTerry
18-11-20, 14:52
5227Here is some sea shells you can put on the wall next to the cock and balls.:D

I wonder if anyone has had an 'American Pie' moment with any of them? :ohmy::blush::roflmao:

Lencoboy
18-11-20, 18:56
Draw around it so it becomes a face :yesyes:

Do wot?

AntsyVee
18-11-20, 20:46
We want you to draw a vagina on the wall, LB. You'll be my hero forever. More so if you take a picture LOL :yesyes:

fishman65
18-11-20, 20:59
5227Here is some sea shells you can put on the wall next to the cock and balls.:DBut Lola, what have sea shells and flower heads got to do with anything? :D

Lolalee1
19-11-20, 00:52
Hi Fish:D
I meant She shells,they are sketches of pussies if you look at them,LB can get some ideas to paint them on the wall,the flower is the same:yesyes:

NoraB
19-11-20, 13:59
5227Here is some sea shells you can put on the wall next to the cock and balls.:D

All those are far too neat. Mustn't have heaved out 10 pounder babies! :roflmao:

AntsyVee
19-11-20, 17:09
All those are far too neat. Mustn't have heaved out 10 pounder babies! :roflmao:

^5 :roflmao:

Lencoboy
19-11-20, 18:09
OMG, LB, it would be hilarious if you went out and sprayed a vagina next to it. If they asked why you were doing that, you could be like, "Hey, you wouldnt clean off the cock n balls, I'm just making things equal here." LOL

Sorry AV, but I find that totally out of order and uncalled for! And with you being a teacher you should know better and have more sense!

A. I'm no pervert, nor a vandal, and
I don't believe in damaging and defacing property not belonging to me.
B. I don't want to be the one getting my collar felt whilst the original perpetrator probably gets off scot-free.

I'm normally quite a reasonable and down to earth guy, but I am finding some of the jokes about this rather distasteful. Not just from yourself but from a tiny minority of others on here, even though much of what has been said is probably in jest.

The actual subject matter of said graffiti isn't necessarily the issue with me, it's the fact that some imbecile has wilfully defaced the exterior of a local shop, which visually spoils the environment and the store management have seemingly been caught napping over it. They treat customers who purchase stuff from their store with contempt when they even dare to alert them to the fact that the exterior of their store has been defaced, but virtually unconcerned about the actions of the original perpetrator.

Society sucks sometimes, it really does!

Rant over.

AntsyVee
19-11-20, 18:20
Lighten up LB, I’m just having some fun and so are the others. Laughter is healing. Try it something; it will probably do you some good.

Lencoboy
19-11-20, 18:42
Lighten up LB, I’m just having some fun and so are the others. Laughter is healing. Try it something; it will probably do you some good.

OK OK!

fishman65
19-11-20, 18:49
All those are far too neat. Mustn't have heaved out 10 pounder babies! :roflmao:I weighed 10lbs when I was born :)

NoraB
20-11-20, 07:56
I weighed 10lbs when I was born :)

I bet your mother wasn't smiling. :scared15:

Please don't say you were the first to be heaved out at that weight?

I'll have to go and have a lie down...

pulisa
20-11-20, 08:14
Thank God his mum already was...hopefully?

What a ripping yarn...

Lolalee1
20-11-20, 10:29
Maybe she was squatting?5232 I found this mushroom with 4 balls.:D

fishman65
20-11-20, 15:58
I bet your mother wasn't smiling. :scared15:

Please don't say you were the first to be heaved out at that weight?

I'll have to go and have a lie down...I was the fourth and final baby but the biggest. The story I've been told was that my Mum was due to have me at a local hospital, but there were difficulties. So the Dr made the decision to transfer her to Northampton Hossy. I was stuck for four hours but apparently the ambulance ride jolted me free.

Yes 10lbs in 1965 was big, not so rare these days though. According to my Mum, the midwife chucked me back in the Moses basket/crib? saying 'blimming great thing'.

fishman65
20-11-20, 15:59
Maybe she was squatting?5232 I found this mushroom with 4 balls.:DThat's a stinkhorn I believe.

NoraB
21-11-20, 06:29
Yes 10lbs in 1965 was big, not so rare these days though. According to my Mum, the midwife chucked me back in the Moses basket/crib? saying 'blimming great thing'.

Yes, I can honesty say that none of my babies have been delicate lol. Chunky buggers the lot of them! And there was me weighing in at a dinky 6 lb something. :D

Lencoboy
21-11-20, 16:28
I was the fourth and final baby but the biggest. The story I've been told was that my Mum was due to have me at a local hospital, but there were difficulties. So the Dr made the decision to transfer her to Northampton Hossy. I was stuck for four hours but apparently the ambulance ride jolted me free.

Yes 10lbs in 1965 was big, not so rare these days though. According to my Mum, the midwife chucked me back in the Moses basket/crib? saying 'blimming great thing'.

Hossy?

Love a bit of Scouse lingo, really makes me laugh!! (Damon Grant, et al).

Down the other end of the country in London, Arfur Daley used to pronounce it as 'orspital!

He also used to pronounce Australia as 'Orstralia!!

LOL!!

fishman65
21-11-20, 18:52
Hossy?

Love a bit of Scouse lingo, really makes me laugh!! (Damon Grant, et al).

Down the other end of the country in London, Arfur Daley used to pronounce it as 'orspital!

He also used to pronounce Australia as 'Orstralia!!

LOL!!I'm from Northamptonshire LB, must have picked it up from Brookside?

NoraB
22-11-20, 07:54
(Damon Grant, et al).

Ah, the Damon and Debbie love story. Equally as soppy as Scott and Charlene in Oz. :emot-puke::emot-puke:

Lencoboy
22-11-20, 08:21
Ah, the Damon and Debbie love story. Equally as soppy as Scott and Charlene in Oz. :emot-puke::emot-puke:

Didn't watch Brookie back in the day as I normally can't stand soaps in general but have watched some of the earlier episodes on YouTube (especially the 82-87 period), which I think time has been kinder to, despite the fact that it's very much 'of its time'.

All the other soaps (EE, ED, Corrie, H&A, Neighbours, Hollyoaks, etc) I still avoid like the plague.

NoraB
22-11-20, 08:24
Didn't watch Brookie back in the day as I normally can't stand soaps in general but have watched some of the earlier episodes on YouTube (especially the 82-87 period), which I think time has been kinder to, despite the fact that it's very much 'of its time'.

All the other soaps (EE, ED, Corrie, H&A, Neighbours, Hollyoaks, etc) I still avoid like the plague.

Soaps are generally shite. I liked Brookie because I like Ricky Tomlinson and Sue Johnston. I loved it when they met up again for The Royle Family!

Lencoboy
22-11-20, 09:20
Soaps are generally shite. I liked Brookie because I like Ricky Tomlinson and Sue Johnston. I loved it when they met up again for The Royle Family!

Yes there's something rather comical (albeit oddball) about Bobby and Sheila.

Bobby with his shouty, hardcore militant, pro-trade unionist tendencies, almost always putting his work before his family, even on Christmas Day. Also expecting to be waited on hand and foot by Sheila (and sometimes also Karen).

Sheila with her hardcore Catholicism and feminist activism, going apes**t when Bobby secretly had a vasectomy operation in 85 (I think), and her marital problems with Bobby coming to a head after a night out on the tiles with her fellow female friends in the summer of 88, when Bobby gave her a bloody good hiding when she arrived home drunk in the early hours of the morning.

Both had a penchant for disownment, especially Bobby chucking Barry out following a massive row soon after Damon's murder in York in late 87, when Bobby descended into alcoholism as a means of coping with the tragic ordeal.

pulisa
22-11-20, 14:16
I watched Brookie back in the day and will always remember the patio storyline..

Ricky Tomlinson was superb in the Mike Bassett, England manager film

MyNameIsTerry
22-11-20, 14:47
Them the big baddie became Des Tavennor in The Bill. He was on Eggheads too.

NoraB
23-11-20, 07:18
Sheila with her hardcore Catholicism and feminist activism, going apes**t when Bobby secretly had a vasectomy operation in 85 (I think), and her marital problems with Bobby coming to a head after a night out on the tiles with her fellow female friends in the summer of 88, when Bobby gave her a bloody good hiding when she arrived home drunk in the early hours of the morning.

I watched this episode recently...

phil06
16-01-21, 23:10
It got cleaned up but sadly I can report someone has drew on the same bin area but with a permanent marker not a spray can this time. Second time in 3 months can people really be that sad to ruin people’s property?

AntsyVee
17-01-21, 04:26
What did they write this time?

phil06
17-01-21, 10:47
What did they write this time?

They drew about 7 faces in different areas might seem trivial but it’s an eye sore

Lencoboy
17-01-21, 11:00
It got cleaned up but sadly I can report someone has drew on the same bin area but with a permanent marker not a spray can this time. Second time in 3 months can people really be that sad to ruin people’s property?

Yes that really sucks Phil!

It seems that tit-for-tat graffiti tags written in marker pen (e.g, X and Y woz 'ere, X 4 Y 4 eva, etc) have become less commonplace over the past 15 years or so, especially in my town, youngsters being more embroiled in their smartphones possibly having something to do with it, whilst the larger-scale tags in the big cities and on the side of motorways, train tracks, etc, have remained more or less constant during the same period, done mostly by the die-hard graffitists.

BTW, that willy drawing outside one of our local shops was eventually painted over in December!

MyNameIsTerry
17-01-21, 20:39
.

BTW, that willy drawing outside one of our local shops was eventually painted over in December!

Was that you, Vee? :winks:

AntsyVee
17-01-21, 21:49
LOL no! I was the one who wanted to add drawings, not paint over them ;)

Lencoboy
17-01-21, 23:43
What does it matter now?

The offending drawing outside that local shop near us has been dealt with and is now water under the bridge.

Lencoboy
30-03-21, 14:50
This post isn't in response to any new vandal attacks in my area per se, but more about 'historical' ones.

Yesterday lunchtime, I helped my dad dispose of some empty glass bottles and jars at the bottle bank adjacent to a parade of local shops about half a mile from where we live and I noticed on one of the bottle bank recepticles when I looked close up some traces of faded graffiti tags dating from 1999, and the year was stylised as '9T9', and I was instantly taken aback, especially as the omnipresence of such tags really used to do my nut in back then.

It also got me wondering if, as this is the first decade of the 21st Century whose years are pronounced with a 'T' between the last two digits, or even twice if if the year is pronounced as 'twenty-twenty-one', might said stylising the latter two digits of years in graffiti tags with the letter 'T' in the middle (e.g, X & Y woz ere 2T1) make a comeback, or has it been out of the public conscience for too long now for the youth of today to even care about such attention to detail, especially considering the fact that most of them now seem to be more absorbed in their phones and social media, in which the latter was still non-existent back the late 90s, and still only a handful of teenagers owned their own phones back then, which of course had only calling and texting capabilities back then AFAIK, and not the mini-pocket 'computers' they have now pretty much evolved into.