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WiredIncorrectly
19-01-21, 12:46
I found this video super interesting. Maybe you will too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuf0-x9Pbu4

Scissel
19-01-21, 14:49
Thank you for sharing it.. I'm watching it now :)

ankietyjoe
19-01-21, 20:35
I haven't watched the video, but I've been saying this here for years.


The way we live and the way we're taught to think is not natural. It's not how we're designed to work.

WiredIncorrectly
20-01-21, 12:27
I haven't watched the video, but I've been saying this here for years.

The way we live and the way we're taught to think is not natural. It's not how we're designed to work.

I feel the same way Joe.

ankietyjoe
20-01-21, 12:37
People have argued with me before here that my viewpoint is nonsense and that the modern way of living is 'normal'.

It just isn't. This modern way of living is new, it hasn't been here long. It started in the industrial revolution and in terms of human history and evolution, it is brand, spanking new.


In the last 50 years the combination of normalised borrowing, a massive drop in the standard of food and the additional normalisation of being sedentary has fvcked our physical and mental health.

But no, spending 75% of your life in debt whilst smothering the fact in beer, pie and Coronation Street is 'normal'.

Lencoboy
20-01-21, 13:18
People have argued with me before here that my viewpoint is nonsense and that the modern way of living is 'normal'.

It just isn't. This modern way of living is new, it hasn't been here long. It started in the industrial revolution and in terms of human history and evolution, it is brand, spanking new.


In the last 50 years the combination of normalised borrowing, a massive drop in the standard of food and the additional normalisation of being sedentary has fvcked our physical and mental health.

But no, spending 75% of your life in debt whilst smothering the fact in beer, pie and Coronation Street is 'normal'.

My view is we're now technically 'possessed' by the media (both social and conventional) and the 'media' have essentially become 'the govt' over the past 20 years in particular, where it's just been one big hyped-up problem after another during the time that has elapsed, though I personally think the rot actually started to set in during the 90s, which alone had its fair share of crises on both sides of the Atlantic, and I still personally perceive that particular decade to be one of the most overrated decades ever!

AntsyVee
21-01-21, 04:28
People have argued with me before here that my viewpoint is nonsense and that the modern way of living is 'normal'.

It just isn't. This modern way of living is new, it hasn't been here long. It started in the industrial revolution and in terms of human history and evolution, it is brand, spanking new.


In the last 50 years the combination of normalised borrowing, a massive drop in the standard of food and the additional normalisation of being sedentary has fvcked our physical and mental health.

But no, spending 75% of your life in debt whilst smothering the fact in beer, pie and Coronation Street is 'normal'.

You’re obviously doing something wrong, Joe ;) :roflmao:

WiredIncorrectly
21-01-21, 10:48
People have argued with me before here that my viewpoint is nonsense and that the modern way of living is 'normal'.

It just isn't. This modern way of living is new, it hasn't been here long. It started in the industrial revolution and in terms of human history and evolution, it is brand, spanking new.


In the last 50 years the combination of normalised borrowing, a massive drop in the standard of food and the additional normalisation of being sedentary has fvcked our physical and mental health.

But no, spending 75% of your life in debt whilst smothering the fact in beer, pie and Coronation Street is 'normal'.

We don't always agree but this is exactly my line of thinking. I read something that talked about how the Industrial revolution is responsible for the Cancer rates we have today. I need to grab some good books on the IR. Any recommendations?

WiredIncorrectly
21-01-21, 10:49
My view is we're now technically 'possessed' by the media (both social and conventional) and the 'media' have essentially become 'the govt' over the past 20 years in particular, where it's just been one big hyped-up problem after another during the time that has elapsed, though I personally think the rot actually started to set in during the 90s, which alone had its fair share of crises on both sides of the Atlantic, and I still personally perceive that particular decade to be one of the most overrated decades ever!

"Technically possessed". I like it! That's a good way to put it.

ankietyjoe
21-01-21, 11:38
We don't always agree but this is exactly my line of thinking. I read something that talked about how the Industrial revolution is responsible for the Cancer rates we have today. I need to grab some good books on the IR. Any recommendations?

I'm not sure that the IR directly caused cancer rates to be what they are today, and even if anybody had suggested that I don't see there being accurate diagnostical records of actual cancer rates a century ago.

However, there are lots of correlations between the food we eat, the lifestyles we lead and the rates of cancer we experience. Let alone the adversarial way we are taught to think. The 'them vs us' trope we are sold on a perpetual basis is incredibly bad for us. It's constant low level stress, and promotes persistent cortisol release.

The one thing that the IR did was took people out of the fields and forests and put them in classrooms and factories. It took away self reliance (and the stresses that THAT brings) and replaced it with complete reliance on third parties to provide income, shelter and food. One very inciteful quote I recall that described stress was a long term problem that you are provided that you have little control over, and can do nothing about. I mean...look around......

WiredIncorrectly
21-01-21, 11:51
The one thing that the IR did was took people out of the fields and forests and put them in classrooms and factories. It took away self reliance (and the stresses that THAT brings) and replaced it with complete reliance on third parties to provide income, shelter and food. One very inciteful quote I recall that described stress was a long term problem that you are provided that you have little control over, and can do nothing about. I mean...look around......

Re. the Cancer thing, it was to do with chimney sweeps, and also the carcinogens from burning in the cities. I'll try and find it, it was an interesting read non the less. Not the article I'm refering to but still an interesting read too: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/05/20/industrial-revolution-caused-rise-cancer-obesity-arthritis/?sh=63f6ad8569f7

The complete reliance on third parties is evident more than ever today. I liked the old way of living, where you grew crops, raised animals and traded with others. It seemed fair ... for those who could afford land. But it's entirely possible to do the same in a back garden. I'm doing this right now :p I wonder what life would be like now without the industrial revolution.

I remember my grandma going into the garden digging potatoes, picking beans, and cooking a Sunday roast with them.