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Dan21
09-09-21, 09:51
Hi.

It's been a while since I posted here. Things have been a lot more settled with my health anxiety for a good 18 months or so. But a frightening symptom has appeared and I'm trying to rationalise the situation and not end up in a panic driven spin out again.

About two weeks ago, I woke up at 2am needing to pee. Got up, had a pee, went back to bed. The same thing happened the next night at 2am and has continued to happen since (give or take an hour) with the exception of a couple of nights. It's not like I'm waking up desperate to go to the bathroom, that's not it at all. When it started, it was like I was waking up and then a few seconds later I felt like I could do with a pee. Now, I'm waking up and on some level the anxiety kicks in and I'm freaking out that I'm needing the toilet again. I'm extremely worried that it's a sign of prostate cancer. I'm 47, a non smoker who doesn't drink and exercises a lot. In fact, I have recently upped my road cycling and part of me wonders if this might a part to play in my problem. I'm riding a new bike which has a very hard seat and is quite uncomfortable, even when I've finished riding. A colleague of mine said that you'd have to be unlucky to get PC at 47 but I think I heard that this is the age that men can start to get it.

It feels like the waking up in the night is now becoming a 'thing'...if I do wake up in the night how do I stop myself from immediately thinking "OH GOD!!! I'm awake AGAIN and needing to pee"

Is your bladder/peeing THAT affected by subconscious anxiety????? I hate this, I really do....I thought I had my health anxiety under some control but it just feels like I'm right back in it again.

Any thoughts or info from anyone who might have experienced similar would be really, really gratefully received.

Thank you.

NoraB
13-09-21, 16:51
Hi.

It's been a while since I posted here. Things have been a lot more settled with my health anxiety for a good 18 months or so. But a frightening symptom has appeared and I'm trying to rationalise the situation and not end up in a panic driven spin out again.

HA LOVES this kind of dialogue!


About two weeks ago, I woke up at 2am needing to pee. Got up, had a pee, went back to bed. The same thing happened the next night at 2am and has continued to happen since (give or take an hour) with the exception of a couple of nights.

The fact that you know what time it was tells me that you checked the time when you got up. Big mistake. HUGE!

Never check the time because your brain will remember and you will wake up again and you will check the time and see that it's 2am (or thereabouts) and the whole thing will be reinforced - by you.


I'm extremely worried that it's a sign of prostate cancer. I'm 47,

It sounds remarkably like anxiety. (My dad had prostate cancer)


It feels like the waking up in the night is now becoming a 'thing'...if I do wake up in the night how do I stop myself from immediately thinking "OH GOD!!! I'm awake AGAIN and needing to pee"

Firstly, remove the clocks from within reach and sight..

Secondly, take a look at what you are drinking after 6pm. Any stimulants? I had to get up and take a pee this morning (no idea what time though) because I'm 51 and so is my bladder. It's not abnormal to have to get up for 'a' wee in the night..


Is your bladder/peeing THAT affected by subconscious anxiety????? I hate this, I really do....

Think of it this way...

Have you ever gone for a job interview, a date, or a hospital appointment and can't stop going for wee? That's the fight or flight response right there because the body is trying to purge everything that will hinder running or fighting, so urine, poo - food etc. And people who have anxiety disorders are anxious at night too..

When if you wake up again - DON'T CHECK THE TIME - and if you know you don't need a wee - tell your brain it's a false alarm. Do some deep breathing which physically puts your system into parasympathetic mode (rest and digest) and think of nice, non-pee-pee things..

If you're really concerned and will struggle to rationalise this then go see your doc and have him slip you the finger up the ol' botty. If there's a problem with the prostrate, he'll be able to feel something but in all honesty this just sounds like anxiety to me..

Phill2
13-09-21, 23:27
You're getting to the age where night time urination increases.
Probably just a slightly enlarged prostate like I have but see your Dr and get it confirmed.
They check it out with an ultra sound.Quick and easy.
Only once is a good night for me.
It's usually 2 or 3 times.

Fishmanpa
14-09-21, 00:05
Welcome to getting older. I have prostate issues (BPH) and there are times I'm up every 2-3 hours. Not only does it take a few to get going but it feels like I never really empty. Just enough to take the pressure off and get back to sleep before I'm up a few hours later. Its annoying as hell! I go tomorrow for my annual physical and I'm going to ask about a med to help.

FMP

Phill2
14-09-21, 00:43
Sounds just like me FMP.
No meds available as far as I know.
If you find one please let me know

Fishmanpa
14-09-21, 01:00
Sounds just like me FMP.
No meds available as far as I know.
If you find one please let me know

I tried Flomax a couple years ago and it really didn't help. There are a few more out there. I'll be asking tomorrow and let you know.

FMP

Phill2
14-09-21, 01:12
Thanks mate :yesyes:

Fishmanpa
14-09-21, 22:13
If you find one please let me know

So I spoke to my GP today and he prescribed dutasteride (Avodart). Its an alpha inhibitor that shrinks the prostate by blocking the hormones that enlarge it. It can take up to 6 months to see any significant changes but I'm going to give it a whirl. If that doesn't work, then its time to see a urologist.

FMP

Phill2
15-09-21, 01:02
Thanks FMP
I'll talk to my GP about it.
I saw a urologist and he prescribed ADs which I'm already on :wacko:
I didn't bother going back to him.

Fishmanpa
15-09-21, 01:22
Thanks FMP
I'll talk to my GP about it.
I saw a urologist and he prescribed ADs which I'm already on :wacko:
I didn't bother going back to him.

When he did the 'ol pokarooni' he said it was enlarged but not terribly so. But he did say he could see why I was having issues. So yeah... I'll pick up the meds tomorrow and give them a whirl I should hopefully notice an improvement by the New Year.

Interesting that the urologist prescribed A/Ds as opposed to some of the other drugs. They are used for protatitus though.

FMP

Phill2
15-09-21, 04:49
That's what my GP said too.
I didn't get poked this time
Ultra sound instead.

Fishmanpa
23-09-21, 03:10
So I spoke to my GP today and he prescribed dutasteride (Avodart).

So there was a change in plans. My insurance refused the med as I would have to try another before the Avodart. Dr. prescribed finasteride (Propecia).... Hey, if it doesn't help my prostate, maybe I'll grow my hair back! :yesyes:

FMP

Phill2
23-09-21, 05:13
You can always hope :roflmao:
Let me know how you go.

Fishmanpa
25-09-21, 13:09
You can always hope :roflmao:
Let me know how you go.

BTW... added Saw Palmetto to my vitamin regime too (as per doctor's suggestion).

FMP

Lencoboy
10-10-21, 13:13
Have you ever gone for a job interview, a date, or a hospital appointment and can't stop going for wee? That's the fight or flight response right there because the body is trying to purge everything that will hinder running or fighting, so urine, poo - food etc. And people who have anxiety disorders are anxious at night too..

I often feel the need to urinate regularly when I am at my day centre, sometimes every 15 minutes on average. I have done various urine tests at my local GP practice during my periodical medicals and the doctors/nurses there couldn't find anything untoward.

At my previous day centre about 10 years or so ago I got into a massive argument with one of the other clients there who used to make patronising personal remarks to me about my frequent toilet visits. One day I lost it with him (verbally, not physically) and screamed at him loudly to 'get knotted' and to 'stop being such a bloody interfering busybody' and that one power-mad (male) staff member of whom I had endless fallouts with himself on several other occasions threatened to report me to the police if he ever caught me behaving like that again!

What? For being assertive against other clients who were essentially 'bullying' me?

Zero tolerance my backside!

fishman65
20-10-21, 19:59
I thought I'd jump in here because I can relate to the OP's situation. However I'm 56 and five years ago my doctor did the finger test and said my prostate was slightly enlarged but no more than is normal for a man my age. A PSA test was also normal.

Anyway lately I've become obsessed with peeing. I do have an increased urgency to go, like it will go from no urgency to 'where's the toilet?' pretty quickly. But I've noticed its become worse the more I've worried about it. For instance yesterday I was fixing up a roller blind for my Dad and was there maybe 6 hours but didn't need the toilet once, and had a glass of water plus two mugs of tea. And caffeine normally makes it worse, so I don't get that bit. Fixing up the blind proved problematic due to a lack of solid fixing material but I got there in the end.

So was my mind distracted? I've no idea. Oh and do pelvic floor exercises help? I'm assuming they might help prevent leaks but won't address the source.

Phill2
22-10-21, 00:11
I get the same thing FMP.
Not thinking about it and I'm all good.
The most annoying thing for me is every night just as I sit down to dinner I have to rush to the toilet.
No idea why it happens then?