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epistore
31-03-23, 02:28
I haven't posted anything here for a while, my anxiety had improved but lately it's been coming on strong. I've been having the feeling of a lot of saliva for more than 30 days, also sometimes a feeling of trapped burping, but the burping has improved. But at first I began to worry about one of the diseases that begin with the letter c in the esophagus. Now after searching the forum here I saw that some people related saliva to ALS. And I also read that in ALS it is not excess saliva but the ability to no longer swallow saliva, I think it could be something like that with me because during the day I do that 5-minute test with my mouth open facing downwards and then I measure saliva and always stays at what studies consider normal 1.5 to 2.0ml. Then I started worrying a lot about ALS... Can anyone help me.

epistore
31-03-23, 02:50
When someone has availability to answer please do, it can help me

epistore
31-03-23, 12:09
I know that here is a very anxious person speaking. but please if anyone can answer me I would be very grateful

epistore
31-03-23, 16:14
i really just need a few words, i have no one to talk to about my fears. so I ask for help here.

BlueIris
31-03-23, 16:39
It's hard to know how to answer what you're saying, which is probably why people aren't replying.

You need to stop fixating on these silly tests, though - this sort of thing means nothing without a medical professional requesting and supervising it, and analysing the results.

You do have a horrible, life-ruining disease, but it's not ALS, it's anxiety.

epistore
31-03-23, 16:48
Thanks I just need someone to tell me something that's all.

BlueIris
31-03-23, 17:40
No, you need help from a qualified professional.

epistore
31-03-23, 18:01
yes I'm going after a psychologist, but until then I just wanted people here to give their opinions about my case.

WorryRaptor
31-03-23, 18:05
You need to see somebody about the anxiety. Like BlueIris said, doing tests is meaningless without a professional.

If I relied on testing myself at home, I'd be positive for all kinds of horrid things. For example, I lose sensation all down one side of my body. Even the eyelid on that side is a little slower to blink when the episodes flare up. If I sat here with that information and no other context at all, I'd be convinced I had progressive MS, strokes, tumours, etc. However, after many MRI's, consultations and clinical exams carried out by specialists, it turns out I just have a wacky kind of migraine. Leave it to the experts.

A common cause for increased saliva is regular acid reflux. One thing that can excess stomach acid is....anxiety.

Have to seen a mental health professional about your anxiety recently?

epistore
31-03-23, 18:09
I will restart my psychological appointments next week. I hope you come back to help me. ALS from what I also read saliva would be a late symptom and not an initial one correct?

BlueIris
31-03-23, 21:01
No clue, sorry, because my own HA doesn't go in that direction. I'm not going to enable your obsession, either, because you need to learn to reassure yourself.

epistore
31-03-23, 22:11
No clue, sorry, because my own HA doesn't go in that direction. I'm not going to enable your obsession, either, because you need to learn to reassure yourself.

ok I understand perfectly, but with the symptom I reported would you be worried about ALS?

Fishmanpa
31-03-23, 23:16
Its quite apparent you're deep in the rabbit hole with this and the incessant self testing and reassurance seeking is quite evident. As pointed out, treating the real illness is the best advice.

FMP

epistore
31-03-23, 23:30
I understand fish, but I'm a person who needs constant reassurance. That's why I always ask for opinions. and when they omit this opinion I think that it may be that they do not opine because they really think it is the disease

Fishmanpa
31-03-23, 23:35
No 'buts' about it. I understand your thought process as I've seen this pattern repeated ad nauseum for years, but its flawed and that's the real illness. Treat that and you treat the symptoms and behaviors associated with it.

Besides, taking into consideration the current membership and participation on the forum, yes, while there will be some not familiar with the members or their patterns that will respond and offer the reassurance you seek, the remaining tenured members will do as they've done and call it as they see it :shrug: I would suggest taking that advice to heart.

FMP

epistore
01-04-23, 00:11
thank you so much fish and blueiris. I understand that I am looking for a solution to imaginary illnesses. My real problem is OCD and anxiety. And that right now I'm pretty bad even with that. and any tip even from a stranger here on the forum would help me.

BlueIris
01-04-23, 04:30
To answer your question, no, I wouldn't worry about ALS because I never worry about ALS, it's not how my particular flavour of health anxiety works.

Do I worry that a doctor will suddenly spot a melanoma when my husband goes for a blood pressure check? Totally. Am I quietly suspicious that I have one or more of four different cancers? Absolutely. ALS? Not so much.

I also know that my worries are the result of faulty thinking patterns, and try not to give them room in my brain. Every time you ask for help with the object of your fear (rather than the anxiety itself, your real problem) you reinforce the neural pathways within your brain that tell you there's something to be afraid of.

Besides, you're here and breathing now, aren't you? That's the only thing that matters.

Mocadona
01-04-23, 10:39
thank you so much fish and blueiris. I understand that I am looking for a solution to imaginary illnesses. My real problem is OCD and anxiety. And that right now I'm pretty bad even with that. and any tip even from a stranger here on the forum would help me.

Some reassurance on here would maybe help, but only very temporarily. That's what people are trying to get across to you. If you look on here there are people doubting reassurance from doctors, neurologists and other specialists and even the results of exams they've had. So sometimes people are reluctant to say "oh you'll be fine I have that" because it just means you'll be back again next week or when the next symptom happens and it benefits nobody. It's a nasty disease - and I'm not talking about ALS. If I get reassured my mind jumps from one disease to another, or if I get a new symptom I can fit it in to a diagnosis that I think I have. The mental gymnastics I perform are astounding at times. But the good news is it can be tamed. That's what you need advice on, not how many ml of saliva is normal.

epistore
01-04-23, 16:10
so is it possible that my saliva is normal, and my anxiety makes me swallow saliva every minute?

BlueIris
01-04-23, 16:33
Stop asking.

WorryRaptor
01-04-23, 21:08
but I'm a person who needs constant reassurance. That's why I always ask for opinions. and when they omit this opinion I think that it may be that they do not opine because they really think it is the disease

And that's exactly the mental process that health anxiety causes. It's not a personality trait that you're bound to. It's something you can change so that your entire sense of wellbeing isn't hinged on fear.

Getting endless reassurance just feeds back into the OCD loop. For example, I gave you a pretty sound, logical reason for excess saliva. For some people with milder levels of anxiety, this is enough to help them step back and realise that they're in a harmful thought process, but you seem to be in a lot deeper than that. I'd strongly encourage you making it a priority to get an appointment with a mental health professional.

epistore
02-04-23, 03:12
thank you all. you are fantastic I always wish you all the best. I dream that there was once a place where this terrible disease called health anxiety doesn't exist.