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sarajane
01-03-08, 04:48
Do you get these symptoms?
Bipolar Affective Disorder until recently was known as Manic Depressive disorder

Bipolar Affective Disorder (BPAD) is a psychological illness that involves severe mood swings. These mood swings take the form of depression or mania and may last for several months at a time. During the time of depression, patients often have great sadness, guilt, no appetite, poor sleep and can not enjoy themselves.

Mania is the opposite of this with patients experiencing erratic and excited behavior. During mania patients often have increased libido, need less sleep, have excessive energy and can sometimes engage in risky behavior (such as gambling excessively) or can even become violent. Hypomania is a less extreme form of mania and while the symptoms are similar, they are less intense.

Some patients may also have a mixed episode that involves the symptoms of both a manic and depressed episode during a short period of time.

There is also a type called Rapid Cycling Bipolar Affective Disorder. With Rapid Cycling, the patient changes from depression to manic at least 4 times a year and episodes of depression and mania are short.

The most significant risk factor for BPAD is a family history of either BPAD or depression, with two thirds of patients with BPAD having some family history of mental illness. Genes are thought to account for 80% of cases of BPAD and research is underway to find out more information about how family history and genetics influence the risk of BPAD. BPAD is a lifelong condition with episodes of low and high mood. The course of the illness varies greatly between individuals.

Symptoms of BPAD (like depression) usually begin before age 20 with the 15 to 19 year old age group being most common. However, these symptoms are often ignored or misdiagnosed until a later age. The main reason is that almost half of all patients with BPAD will first have an episode of depression (only a quarter will first experience manic symptoms such as excited mood, excess energy, etc).

During life the patient will have episodes of low or high mood. Patients with Type I BPAD will have manic (high mood) episodes and depression (low mood) while Type II with have only mild manic episodes (called hypomanic) and more depressive episodes. Episodes, even if treated, usually last 3-6 months but can last considerably longer.

Depressive symptoms (such as low mood, low enjoyment with life, and a lack of energy) can last for years at a time. How often episodes occur is extremely variable between patients, however the usual time between first and second episode is about four years and then episodes occur about every year. Episodes often become more frequent over time (especially if untreated). Untreated, a typical BPAD Type I patient will experience 10 episodes of mania during their life with a number of depressive episodes.

Almost all patients will recover form a depressive or manic episode in time. However, BPAD often has considerable effect on a person's functioning and patients with BPAD often have relationship and occupational difficulties. During an episode of mania a person is likely to participate in risky behaviours (such as excessive gambling or risky sexual behaviours) and often places their finances and relationships at risk.

In recent studies about 25-35% of BPAD patients will return to the same level of functioning (education, work, social) that they had before they were diagnosed with BPAD. The majority however, will have continuing problems (especially in the work environment) despite having no ongoing symptoms, meaning the patient will have a normal mood but will continue to find it hard to function like they did before.

There is a high risk of suicide patients with BPAD. About 25% to 50% of patients with BPAD will attempt to commit suicide and about 80% will consider suicide. Although there is no truly accurate suicide figure it is estimated that 10-15% of BPAD patients die as a result of suicide. Suicide attempts are rare during mania but common during depressive episodes.

Most patients will first present with an episode of depression. Patients will also often have considerable anxiety and sometimes an eating disorder (such as anorexia).

Depressive symptoms are low mood, lack of pleasure, low energy, feelings of guilt, decreased concentration, decreased appetite and decreased sleep. These however are symptoms that are also present with depression or even some forms of schizophrenia, making the diagnosis of bipolar difficult.

About a quarter of patients will present with a manic episode. These patients will present with an elevated mood, excessive energy, decreased sleep, fast talking, sensational ideas, and an inflated self-esteem.

The diagnosis of BPAD is made on the clinical examination, although there are some tests to exclude other causes for mania. These tests include thyroid function tests, calcium levels, tests for infection (especially for syphilis or HIV), an electroencephalogram (to rule out epilepsy) and possibly a CT scan (to exclude any brain injury). The doctor may also do a routine drug screen as drugs like amphetamines or cocaine can have the same signs as BPAD.

The main treatment for BPAD is long term medication. There are several categories of treatment. There is different treatment for manic episodes, depressive episodes and rapid cycling. Apart for these treatments to stop episodes of depression and mania there is also long term maintenance therapy.

Treatment of a depressive episode in BPAD is different to the treatment of depression. Traditional anti-depressant medication should not be used in BPAD as this medication can bring on episodes of mania or hypomania and cause severe mood swings.

The final treatment for depressive episodes is ECT. The treatment has been shown to be a good alternative to drug treatment in patients with depressive episodes. Treatment of rapid cycling can be difficult as some drugs can in fact make the condition worse.

Psychotherapy can be used in BPAD. The goals of psychotherapy in BPAD are to improve regular taking of medicines, reduce any substance abuse (such as alcohol), improve lifestyle and help patients recognise symptoms of depression or mania earlier so that they seek appropriate treatment as soon as possible. There are 3 general types of psychotherapy that have been shown to be useful.

The goal of this therapy is to stop a patient with BPAD who is presently well going into an episode of mania or depression. This is often difficult and it is often impossible to stop these episodes.

Psycho-education - This educates the patient about BPAD, early signs of a manic or depressive episode and the importance of long term medication. There is good evidence for psycho-education as it improves regular taking of medicines and can help patients identify any stresses that will lead to an episode and try to change them.

Family Focus Therapy - This includes psycho-education but also helps to improve communication and problem solving within the family. The therapy has been shown to be effective at reducing the number of manic or depressive episodes over time.

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) - This works in a number of ways. Like psycho-education, it increases a patient's knowledge of the illness but it also helps the patient with returning to full functioning. Many patients with BPAD do not return to full employment or social life even when they are symptom-free. Cognitive behavioural therapy works to help restore a patient back to full functioning (full employment, social life, relationships, etc).

If these symptoms sound like your symptoms, go talk to your Doctor, there is also lots of good articles on the net explaining Bipolar.

This is just one link to read if you think you may have Bipolar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomanic_episode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomanic_episode)

Love
SJ

nikk_dolittle
01-03-08, 09:55
Great post Sara, Explains loads about what it is and very interesting...

:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

Nikk xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

sarajane
02-03-08, 06:26
Thanks Nikk, It would be interesting to know how many people relate to these symptoms and have been told by their Doctor that they have depression.
A lot of people haven't ever heard of Bipolar.
SJ

darkangel
02-03-08, 09:44
Anyone who has been seen by a psychiatrist would know for certain if they had bipolar. The depression is not like normal depression, it is EXTREME and so are the highs. When in a MANIC state the people around you would know that something wasnt right, the person themselves cannot always tell. But to outsiders, it is VERY VERY noticeable.

sarajane
02-03-08, 10:34
Hi Darkangel, the reason I copied and pasted this article about Bipolar is because I was finally diagnosed last week.

My entire life Ive always been told I was a very motivated, creative and intensely energetic person when on the 'highs' and when suffering the 'lows' I always felt like a failure because know matter what treatment I received the lows would not just go away.

Finally I am at peace with myself. My actions over the years now make sense to me. The years and years I have beaten myself up over the 'whys' of my behavior are now clear.

For the last 20 odd years I would only see a Doctor or get referred to a psychiatrist when I was severely depressed, so none of my health care professionals suspected bipolar, because when I was hypo, energetic, and firing on all cylinders I didn't need to see my Doctor.

As far as I was aware when I was in this state I believed it was the way normal people behaved. Even work mates would comment on my endless energy or ideas, and continually tell me they wished they had the energy and motivation that I had, no one clicked that I might be bipolar.

The only negative comments I'd receive from my work colleagues would be 'can you please slow your speech down', as I would often get very excited while in meetings and talk too fast.

Usually when this happened, everyone would just laugh and tell me 'we understand you are enthusiastic about your proposal but please slow down so we can all share in your excitement'.

I was always being praised and promoted by employees when I was 'hypo' because I would accomplish far more work than any of my peers.

Then when I fell into a severe depression I'd be told the main causes were probably due to over work.

So after finding all of this out, and not being diagnosed until last week I thought if I have been misdiagnosed maybe other people have been to.

Love
Sarajane

Oceanblue
02-03-08, 11:44
Hiya,

Darkangel is totally right in explaining what she has, the symptoms of Bipolar are extreme, and to be honest,.. I feel that most descriptions aren't worded in the correct terminology and are poorly written.

As you know Sara, I too have Bipolar. I haven't spoken to you in chat for awhile and am sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I've unfortunately suffered with some extreme sides of this illness,.. into mania/psychosis, it can be very frightening.

I'm here if you need a chat Sara,... I sometimes need to chat with someone who understands too,.. so if you don't mind, may give you a shout sometime too :winks:.

Hope you're aswell as can be xx

happyone
02-03-08, 16:52
I visited an occupational health doc a couple of weeks ago and he informed me that it is thought that as many as 9/10 people with recurring deep depressions are misdiagnosed.

In terms of severity, there are the less extreme cases of cyclothymia and many specialists are now looking at bi polar as being on a spectrum; calling it bi polar spectrum disorder, as even from person to person there are huge variations in how severe their symptoms present. For many people with bi polar, they only have one manic episode in their life. Mania is not my problem, I have hypomania's (like mania but less severe) and rages that are uncharacteristically bad and consuming.

There are such huge variations in this illness that I think it is a difficult one often to diagnose. After all, who wants to put a label on to someone that has life long implications? Implications it does indeed have, such as holiday and life insurance, driving licences, drug regime for several years, if not actually for life. I have this and hate that it is with me for life, on my records, even if I do improve and have many many stable years. On the other hand, without the diagnoses, I would still just be on inappropriate medication.

Here is a link to the manic depressive fellowships site, leading charity for this disorder. There is a forum there that I have found to be an invaluable source of knowledge and support.
http://www.mdf.org.uk/?o=56851

Interesting post, thank you.

Happyone
xx

joy
02-03-08, 17:43
hey Happy One, long time no hear from. How are you

Joy

pooh
04-03-08, 20:54
Am I bipolar? It's a question I've asked myself occassionally and shocked a doctor when I suggested experiences throughout life may allude to it. Since my teens, a time that saw me attempt suicide and be admitted to a psychiatric unit twice, I have experienced three major episodes of depression. Last year I hit a point in which I was unable to get out of bed for weeks. I walked out of a job and willingly became unemployed. I couldn't cope with working. I'm now 35. Every member of my immediate family have been treated for depression at some point throughout their adult lives, which would indicate a genetic predisposition.
Times that I remember being particularly manic have usually included periods of artisic pursuit. Painting, drawing and writing. I've wondered, and often joked, its all down to an artistic temprement.
I know that much of the description of bipolar strikes a chord, but I've only ever been treated for depression, anxiety and panic.
I do hope however, that your diagnosis allows for your quality of life to improve. All the best!

Pooh

Tinks_loves_pan
26-11-08, 18:48
i am bi-polar and my family say life is like living on a non stop rollercoater life is challenging for us all but we cannot change our past buyt we can change the way we look at the past and try not too judge others as judgement has no gain be positive with life and life will be possitive too you
god bless Lj