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Sky12
22-09-08, 15:34
Hi there, new member here. I'm a member of another benzodiazepine forum but I thought I'd try here too. Could so badly use some emotional support during this time. I've never been prone to much panic or anxiety in my life. In fact I used to relish my time alone with reading, music and my thoughts. Now after months of daily hell, I'm afraid to be left alone for even a waking moment.

It all started with a vicodin prescription for extreme pain. I was on it for a long period, tried to quit unsuccessfully numerous times and finally did it in June. Thought my life would be better than ever, but then I began to experience episodes of heart rates in the high hundreds- thought I was having a heart attack. It happened numerous times before I went to the emergency room and was given a 3 mg. daily prescription for Ativan- reason, "panic attacks". They performed every conceivable test on me but didn't catch the fact that viral thyroiditis(inflammation of the thyroid when attacked by a virus) was the cause. My general practitioner later did and took care of the problem.

Too late, now am addicted to the benzos, and for no good reason. They assured me tapering would be easy, I was only on it for a total of two months. I slowly- alone and without any advice from competent professionals- tapered down to less than 1 mg. and had headaches, crying and shaking fits, saw flashes of light in the air, burning, twitching, tingling, nightmares, insomnia. The joints of my fingers would swell, my tongue sometimes even after meals. The w/d plus the virus left me unable to eat virtually anything for weeks and weeks. Bed-ridden for two months. Lost 65 pounds from the prescritions and thyroid problem. Heart arrythmia, skipped pulses where my heartbeat would seem to fade for seconds like a distant echo in a tunnel. Finally I began to have tremors again- would get cold and teeth would chatter, every muscle in my body would shake and convulse.

More hospital tests which concluded no seizure, but I've heard others describe their seizures that way. The fear of being damaged from this scares me so much. I wish I was more cognizant during this period or had someone to advocate for me. Instead of vainly searching for a "specialist", I should've called every doctor around and asked them to help me with the Ashton method, but weakly and blankly I just went along with the current, and now I must pay for it.

I was aware of the Ashton method and had high hopes the addiction specialist in the hospital would employ it. Well, he got it half right. He immediately took me off the .75 of Ativan and switched me to 15 mg. of valium with no time for a gradual switch.("Oh, that's dangerous. Synergystic effects") More tremors, so he upped it to 20 mg. which I've been on for 13 days. He estimated I should be off that in 2-4 weeks, but compromised with a little over two months. I've got a prescription for 137 5 mg. valium I haven't filled yet. Other benzo victims have advised me to hold at the 20 mg. a day and reduce by a mg. a week or so. That's four months, possibly more. My anxiety from being yanked off the Ativan so quickly is almost increasing by the day, physical symptoms reduced thankfully. Well to summarize my questions so everyone doesn't have to sift through my whining:

1.Should I fill the script now and do the imprecise pill cutter thing, call him or another dr. immediately to ask for a larger script or one that includes 2 mg. tabs for greater accuracy?

2.Should I have protracted Ativan withdrawal for much longer after being taken off it so quickly?

3.Were those tremors necessarily seizures, and/or damaging? They did numerous blood tests and the doctor coldly told me I had no seizures or neurological problems. Are blood tests enough to determine whether you've ever had a seizure?

I suppose what happened to me is the equivalent of cold turkeying 7.5 mg of valium. The ignorant Dr. insisted that since all benzos are basically the same, the val. would take over for the Ativan instantly and everything would be fine. This is clearly not the case. God, I wish I could go back in time and find someone to do it right. Any length, any expense is worth it for your physical and mental health. No going back now. Feel like I've been through a war and it just keeps coming and coming. I only enjoy sleep now, and even that's a "nightmare". Haha. Don't know if I have the strength for four more months of this. :weep: Must be strong. Sorry for the lengthy paragraphs but I have to get this off my chest. I feel so alone, no one understands what I'm going through. A thank you to anyone that's even read some of this. I'm sure many of you will understand.

decca
22-09-08, 17:45
Hi Sky,
I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time of it and hope you'll soon feel better.
I know it feels as if you'll never win but I think you've done remarkably well to get off of Vicodin, it's a highly potent narcotic painkiller (about 1.5 times the potency of Morphine).
I wonder if your addiction therapist is aware that you once took Vicodin and it's this that's really causing you problems ?.
But you must trust your advisor as he is the expert, it sounds as if he is trying to firstly get you stabilised by upping your Valium to 20mg before starting a proper taper. Maybe you've cut to 1mg to quickly given that you were once taking Vicodin and have also had Thyroid problems that would have upset your whole nervous system.
I worry about Benzo addiction and have mentioned the the Ashton Manual many times to my Docs. and have been told that although Professor Ashton's research is well publicised it is now a little out dated following more modern research and I guess you addiction therapist would be aware of this.
If I were in your shoes I would talk it over again with my Doc or therapist and suggest a script made up from 2mg tabs and take the 20mg until I felt well enough to start the taper by even less than 1mg, half a mg every fortnight would probably suit your body better in allowing it to adjust.
Good luck and God bless,
Decca

*Kimzhoe*
12-11-08, 13:24
aww shame that,

yeah I my self am addicted well "dependent" on temazepam
all started when i didnt sleep for 3 days and was seeing things.
so at 17 i got zopiclone(same sorta thing) then it stoped workin
so i got temaz i was too young to know and now 5 years on im
still on it and take it for panic episods as well but i break them
in half and only take halfs maybe trying that would help? as for
withdrawl i wouldnt worry i got taken of them cold turky once
for 2 or 3 months I just felt crabbit and wanted more but i wasnt
shakey or anything.

Natural Mystic
13-11-08, 19:30
aww shame that,

yeah I my self am addicted well "dependent" on temazepam
all started when i didnt sleep for 3 days and was seeing things.
so at 17 i got zopiclone(same sorta thing) then it stoped workin
so i got temaz i was too young to know and now 5 years on im
still on it and take it for panic episods as well but i break them
in half and only take halfs maybe trying that would help? as for
withdrawl i wouldnt worry i got taken of them cold turky once
for 2 or 3 months I just felt crabbit and wanted more but i wasnt
shakey or anything.
Sorry could you make something clear for me? How long were you on zopiclone?

xBettyBoopx
13-11-08, 23:25
Welcome to nmp sky,

Wow that's a lot of information for me to take in:ohmy: However I get the gist of what you're saying.

First plz forget about trying to come down off of anything at the moment, take one day at a time, especially since you have gone through a lot lately.

0.75mg of Ativan, although doesn't sound a lot is = to 7.5mg valium as you said, so when the doctor gave you 15mg valium instead of the ativan that is double the dose. Please know that I am not an expert, but have been through withdrawal & been on several different benzos. Although these meds are all benzos they are made by different companies so will be different in some ways. I went through withdrawal from Tranxene 'cold turkey', when I couldn't get them in this country anymore & although I was given 2.5mg Ativan instead, I still had bad withdrawal. I can't remember how long it lasted but it did go away, so know that you won't always feel like you do now.

The withdrawal symptoms that you have/had will not damage you in any way. People coming off of alcohol are given valium to cope with the withdrawal symptoms, & are not harmed.

Yes, anyone who has been taking meds for a length of time should ALWAYS come down very gradually, drs are so stupid sometimes:scared15: that's usually because they haven't been through it themselves, they would be different if they had:lac:
But that's not gonna help you now as there is no going back.

As for what you should do about your prescriptions, it's really your choice, noone can advise you unforuntately, it's what you feel comfortable with that's important.

Personally I don't see the big deal in taking tranquillizers if it helps, even if you have to take them for the rest of your life, as there really is no other kind of medication that can help! Drs make a big deal out of given the benzos nowadays because of government clamp down on anything that ends with a 'pam'. Would they stop giving heart medication to someone with heart problems just incase they got addicted? I think not. The more big deal that they make out of it, the more scared the patient becomes, when it's unnecessary:scared15:

I hope this has helped a little anyway. The withdrawal symptoms will definately go in time & you will begin to feel a bit better.

Good luck to you.

Els
xxx