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nomorepanic
07-09-05, 21:30
Hi all

Just a quick update for anyone who doesn't know my situation in full.....

I have suffered with panic/anxiety for over 12 years and I now have the panic attacks under control. I think the last time I had a panic attack is nearly 2 years ago. What I am left with is anxiety and in particular when driving. I can drive anywhere as long as there is a hard shoulder or somewhere to pull off and I absolutely hate road works and traffic jams. As for contra-flows :([:O]

Driving has always been an issue for me because I started having panic attacks in the car 12 years ago so it stopped being a safe place for me. Then I had a car accident which made it worse.

I have had the confidence to keep doing it over and over (JFDI) and I have not avoided them very often but I am just not comfortable in them and I hate every minute of it. I often call Meg in tears asking her to talk to me whilst I drive through them and then I come out shaking and feeling that I have failed cos it is not getting any easier for me.

So after that update, on to my question ....

I have talked to Meg about this and we think I need CBT again to try and help me change my thoughts and really believe and KNOW that I am fine in roadworks etc and nothing can harm me.

So, I have a doctor's appointment to discuss this in a couple of weeks time. The thing is that I know the NHS waiting list can be up to 18 months (if he even agrees to refer me atall) but I do have private medical insurance (well Alex does but I am named on the policy so I can use it).

The thing is that they will not take on existing conditions and I guess they could say that this is part of the anxiety I have had for years.

I guess they can't prove the driving has always been an issue and it did come back with avengence last year when I had to drive over the Severn Bridge so it is fairly recent that I have gotten worse.

I don't want to lie to anyone but does anyone have any experience of being referred to a private CBT therapist and will it go against me that I have it on my medical records as having suffered panic/anxiety for so long.

Did you manage to get it easily enough and did your medical background go against you?

Just want to prepare myself in advance so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks all.


Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

sadie
07-09-05, 21:47
Hi Nic,

I had CBT about 3/4 years ago when I first started having panic attacks and it was private. I had private medical insurance through my work at the time so it came in handy. I did get referred by my GP and because I hade the private insurance and I was given an appointment within a couple of weeks.

I am not sure how it works about a ongoing health issue though.... is there a helpline or something you can call with regards to the Health Insurance you have?

I am not sure if this helps you any.

sadie

Quirky
07-09-05, 22:11
Normally if you had the condition when the policy was taken out it is not covered. If it wasn't declared at the time you may get away with it if your gp says your problems are recent, and in some ways they are as they have got worse recently. Probably best to check with the insurance company or see what gp thinks.
I have had private CBT but didn't need a gp referral as I had to pay for it, so I just phoned up and booked myself in.
I know how awful the driving anxiety can be, I was never anxious driving until I was in a car crash last year. I've not avoided it since but it's hard. I'm ok driving the couple of miles to work and doing local journeys, motorways are the worst for me, even if my husband is driving I hate them now.
Good luck with whatever you do,
Lisa

helen__w
07-09-05, 22:38
Hi Nicola

I found my own CBT therapist at http://www.babcp.org.uk/ because my doc wouldnt refer me! I got an appt within 2 weeks and pay £70 a session. I think as they are independent it doesnt matter if you have an existing condition.

Hope this helps

Helen x

vernon
08-09-05, 00:20
Coventry has to be the worst, I was put on the waiting list at least 2 years ago and still waiting (NHS) Had interview and first part which was psycho education, But they keep cancelling saying not enough turned up or someone is Ill at the time. There are lots of therapists at the centre they must have a good job with no patients.

Karen
08-09-05, 05:37
I think any medical condition that existed when the policy was taken out is usually not covered but it would all depend on how your GP describes your current anxiety and whether he puts this down as a new condition, or as part of the panic and anxiety you originally had.

Maybe you could discuss this with your doctor when you go for the appointment in a couple of weeks.

The NHS mental health services are a joke here too. I got as far as being referred by my doctor, saw the psychiatrist, CMHT and crisis team and the psychiatrist agreed to refer me to a psychologist for CBT. However, the psychologist then refused the referral saying it was 'inappropriate' for her involvement whatever that means.

It seems to be you have to go private to get anywhere.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

Piglet
08-09-05, 09:50
Hi Nic,

Have no advice but wish you lots of luck and will watch with interest how you progress.

Love Piglet xx

tracyp584
08-09-05, 11:24
Hi Nic,

I was referred for CBT through my GP, to be told that the waiting list was almost 18 months. I have just recently started CBT with someone i found privately, but i am paying for each session.

tracy x x

nomorepanic
08-09-05, 11:28
Thanks all for the input.

I will have a chat with the doctor and explain that it could be seen as part of the anxiety but maybe he will still refer me on. I didn't really want to pay privately but may have to if I don't want to wait that long.

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

RH
08-09-05, 11:39
Hello,

I saw a psychologist for CBT privately last year (for mainly driving and travelling problems) and it was excellent.
I had anxiety problems for years but BUPA were very good, the woman I spoke to even said ‘don’t call it a phobia just say it’s stress’

Give it a shot, the health company can only say no.
Personally, even if I had to, I’d pay for it, getting yourself the best you can be is the most important thing.

Cheers

Richard,

Quirky
08-09-05, 11:55
Good luck with whatever you decide Nicola.
I was referred for CBT twice and turned down twice, my gp was amazed how bad you need to be to get help. So I had eight private sessions two years ago and they helped enormously, even within a few sessions. In my area the price ranges from £90 - £140 per session which is quite expensive. Thankfully I was working full time in a really well paid job but now I'm part time it's not as easy. I was fine for a year after the CBT. Recently a few things have got on top of me and I'm not dealing with my thoughts as well.
I'm hoping to go back and have a few more sessions. My therapist was great as she has also suffered panic and anxiety herself in the past.
My ME specialist did finally get me onto a CBT waiting list of two years, but as I still have a year to wait at least I'm going to go private again probably. I have private medical insurance but it doesn't cover any therapy.

henri
09-09-05, 15:31
Hey Nic,
As you know, I had CBT and it really worked for me. I was so freaked out when my panic started that it didn't even occur to me to see a GP (!!) or go on a waiting list - a friend of mine is a psychologist and she referred me to a therapist who worked in a hospital nearby. I had an appointment within a week, but it cost me £80 per session. Ridiculously expensive, i know, but I couldn't bear to wait.
Sorry i can't be more helpful!
Henri x

nomorepanic
09-09-05, 15:43
Thanksa for the input RH, LJ and Henri

I think I will sit down this weekend with some light reading - the booklet we got from Bupa and see what all the get-out clauses etc are.

We shall see ...

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

nomorepanic
14-09-05, 19:32
Update for you all.

I went to see GP last night and he agreed that CBT was the way forward for me.

He does have a counsellor that has CBT training but she is not taking on any new patients so he said it could be 6 months before I got in (I thought was quite good considering how long some of you had to wait).

Anyway I mentioned private and he said he was happy to refer me if they would take me on.

I called them this evening and after going through a few details etc they went away and came back and said I could only have it if it was a real phobia and restricting my life.

I pointed out that I had to drive every day so yes it was a big problem.

The next step is to get a claim form completed by doc and then we shall see.

If not then I think I will just pay to go private anyway.

Will let you know what happens when I get things moving etc.

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

Karen
14-09-05, 20:18
Good that there is a chance you might be covered by the insurance Nic.

I hope it works out for you.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

nomorepanic
13-10-05, 18:05
Had some good news in a letter today - I have been given the go-ahead to get the CBT treatment on the private health care plan.

Now I just need to find out who I can see etc and then book the appointments.

I am well pleased!

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

tattybear
13-10-05, 18:08
YAY!!

That is brill news Nic, and its no wonder you're pleased:D

Tatty B xx

Quirky
13-10-05, 22:06
That's great news Nic. Good luck with it.
Lisa

Karen
14-10-05, 05:28
Fantastic news Nic. Hope you get to see someone soon.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

Trev
14-10-05, 08:23
That's fantastic news Nic. Really pleased for you.

Good luck with it.

Trev x

Meg
14-10-05, 16:05
Hurrah ...Now to track down the ideal therapist !

Love
Meg

tracyp584
14-10-05, 17:01
Thats great news Nic,

Hope you find someone soon.

tracy x x



Every time you avoid your fears they become stronger,every time you face your fears they become weaker.

nomorepanic
14-10-05, 19:03
Well I called PPP today and now I have to find someoone that they will approve but they don't have a list as such. I have to give them a name and then they check their list. If they are not on the list then I can't use them!

I will call the doctor on Monday and get a few names from him and hopefully one of them will be on PPP's list!

What a silly system - I could end up with anyone now! Just hope the one that the GP wanted me see is on the list.

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

nomorepanic
17-10-05, 23:11
Thought it was too good to be true and it was!

Apparently I have to now be referred to a pyschiatrist and then he and only he can refer me for CBT so no idea what to do now. Got to find a psychotherapist from the doc and pay for that (can claim it back) and then he decides whether I can get CBT or not.

May as well pay for it after all this hassle!

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

Karen
18-10-05, 11:39
Hi Nic

What a lot of hassle. I know that is the way it works on the NHS but would've thought it would have been much more simple privately through health insurance.

Have you decided what you are going to do next?

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

Quirky
18-10-05, 11:44
Good luck Nic, it sounds like alot of hassle but hopefully will all be sorted and worth it in the end.
I was referred twice by my gp to see a psychiatrist and both times was turned down for CBT as I was deemed not to be bad enough to need it. My gp was horrified and we wondered how bad you would need to be as at that time I was pretty bad.
It's a pain you need this for the insurance. In the end I had and am now again having it privately but it's so expensive. If your insurance will pay it may be worth all the hassle in the end and as you won't be joining the NHS list they may be more willing to refer you anyway.
Good luck,
Lisa

kairen
18-10-05, 12:25
Hi Nic,

cant believe all the hassle,
I would go for it and see what they say anyway, while your waiting have a look around see if anyone can recomend someone to you incase it all goes pair shaped with GP,

just dont give up !

take care xxx

kairen x

nomorepanic
18-10-05, 13:33
Well I now can't get to see my doctor again until next Monday so I guess this will be dragging on for weeks anyway.

He did give me a list of therapist that I may be able to go and see so I will look into that if all else fails.

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

Karen
18-10-05, 13:44
<b id="quote">quote:</b id="quote"><table border="0" id="quote"><tr id="quote"><td class="quote" id="quote">I was referred twice by my gp to see a psychiatrist and both times was turned down for CBT as I was deemed not to be bad enough to need it. My gp was horrified and we wondered how bad you would need to be as at that time I was pretty bad.
<div align="right">Originally posted by LJ - 18 October 2005 : 11:44:24</div id="right">
</td id="quote"></tr id="quote"></table id="quote">
Yes this happened to me too and my doctor couldn't understand the decision either.

Nic, I hope you manage to get it sorted out soon. At least you can check out the therapists on the list and maybe get an idea of the one you might like to see.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

nomorepanic
27-10-05, 22:02
Ok quick update

Saw doc on Monday and he referred me to a psychologist that is actually on the PPP list (yippee)

They were very hard on me when I called and questioned that because I actually drove to work whether I was ill enough to qualify for treatment.

Seems like if I was housebound I would be seen immediately.

Anyway - after a few harsh conversations they agree to pay IF I get referred. So now waiting to see the psychiatrist then HOPEFULLY she will refer me on.

Going to be at least another week now cos the Doctor's secretary is not in to type up the referral letter - HMMMM can't anyone else do it I ask myself.

Anyway - will let you know when I hear anything.

Thanks to those who have asked how it was going.

Nicola

"Nearly all happiness comes into our lives through doors we don't even remember leaving open"

Quirky
27-10-05, 22:34
That's good news Nic. Hope you don't have to wait too long.
Good luck,
Lisa

Karen
27-10-05, 23:40
Hi Nic

Sounds like the situation is progressing slowly.

I hope you don't have to wait too long for the referral and that the psychiatrist agrees to refer you. It is a ridiculous system.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

Dan
28-10-05, 17:25
hi nicola
hope all goes according to plan i was supposed to have cbt with a nurse who deemed me ok and said if i have bad thoughts of dying i had to put them out of my head gee thanks did she need a degree for that advice lol
didnt realise so expensive now back on list after recently going back in my anxiety battle so guess will wait
i think people think if you do things then you must be fine little do they no... anyway at least you do continue to drive well done for that hope to hear your in cbt session soon
dan

nomorepanic
05-11-05, 01:47
Ok the latest is ...

Got a letter from the psychiatrist.

I am seeing her next Wednesday and she is charging £260 just to see me.[Wow!]

Then after it is £230 per hour session (yes I did say £230 [:O][:O][:O][:O])

I hope PPP are paying for this cos I aint and what a rip off! Ridiculous prices.

Nicola

Piglet
05-11-05, 11:48
[:O][:O][:O][:O][:O] at the price.

Good luck with it though Nic, be interesting to see what you think.

Love Piglet:)

"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.

alexis
08-11-05, 22:58
Hi Nic, just to say good luck for tomorrow, sorry I didnt reply to this post but I was away/ Let us know how it goes, take care, xxxxxxx

love from Alexisxxxx

Trev
09-11-05, 00:10
All the best for tomorrow Nic.

Cheers,
Trev

Piglet
09-11-05, 11:45
Well ?????????????????????????/

Love Piglet:D

"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.

Quirky
09-11-05, 11:46
Hope it goes well today Nic, let us know how you got on.

Lisa

trac67
09-11-05, 13:47
Nic,

Hope it has all gone well mate, make sure you let us know.

BIG HUG for you

Love
Trac xx

'Live your life with arms wide open, today is where your book begins, the rest is still unwritten'

alexis
09-11-05, 17:08
Sooooooooo???????????????/

love from Alexisxxxx

nomorepanic
09-11-05, 17:20
Ok so this is what happened. The short summary for those who don’t want to read it all is that I am being referred on for CBT. I have to wait for an appointment as the woman she wants me to see has a waiting list. So now I just have to wait for an appointment to come through and take it from there.

For those that want the full story and some comments that she made then read on….

I was there for about 1.25 hours and asked 6 million questions for starters. I thought I would write some of them down, as anyone else going for any sort of evaluation for therapy is likely to be asked the same.

Here we go with the ones I can remember being asked….

Age, Weight, Height, Living arrangements, children, length of time with partner etc, where was I born and where was I brought up.

Family History - Parents & brothers/sisters – alive/dead? age, state of health, history of mental illness, relationship towards them. Childhood upbringing ?

School – did I do well at school, was I liked, many friends? Qualifications I got etc.

Work – how long there, friends at work? what job I did? Am I happy, settled, fulfilled etc

How did I view myself, what was my personality? Was I ever moody, irritable, unhappy, sad.

How was my concentration and memory?

How did my partner view me – what did he think about my current issues.

Medications/Illnesses – What medications I have ever been on, what dose, how long, what illnesses have I suffered from? Any ongoing health concerns. How do I feel in general at the moment?

Food/ Drink – Do I have a good appetite, how much alcohol do I drink

Sleep – is it good, bad, problems waking up or not dropping off?

What changes have happened in my life the past 2 years – issues with work? relationships? deaths in family? any changes that have been significant (e.g new job or losing a job)?

What were my hobbies? What sort of social life did I have?

What history did I have of panic/anxiety/depression? What treatment did I get for it? Did it work? How long did it go on for etc.

What was I currently doing to help overcome my problems?

The only thing she didn't ask - which I was asked the first time I went for psychotherapy - was "how is your sex life" [:O]

She said that she was worried that the panic episodes whilst driving could result in the depression coming back (I have to disagree with this as I don’t think it is that bad that I am getting depressed about it that much). She suggested that maybe in the near future I was put back on anti-depressants to “prevent” the depression resurfacing. She wanted to prescribe Seroxat but would allow me to have Prozac instead because of the bad press about Seroxat and my opinion of it. I said I didn’t want to go down the anti-depressant route so we are going to see what the CBT can do.

She said that my previous history of panic/anxiety had never completely gone and even though I no longer get full blown panic attacks whilst driving I am getting small ones (sounds cute doesn’t it!!) that I am controlling in some form but not completely. Personally I would just call them anxiety attacks but there you go.

She suggested that I didn’t call anyone on the phone when I got these issues in the car, as I was not dealing with it. I did point out that I try to do it alone but sometimes was too overwhelmed so called Meg or Alex just to take my mind off it. She wants me to learn distraction techniques such as finding an object to concentrate on and describe it in as much detail as possible. This could be a signpost, something in the car, a car in front of me, a person etc. Driving back to work I hit road works and tried to put this into practice and didn’t cope particularly well so I need to practice this one a lot!

She wants me to go searching for roadworks or roads that I don’t like driving down at weekends and practice driving but do it in very small stages. For example, get on one junction of the Motorway and off at the next. She told me not to push myself too hard – do it in small steps until I get the confidence back.

One other th

desperate
09-11-05, 18:07
Hi Nic,

Sounds like a lot of questions!!

Interesting about the depression/panic thing too....I always thought it was the other way round too but my therapist said to me the same that panic is when your mind maybe drifts to something you are unhappy about to start off with, then the cycle starts.

Hope it helps you anyway, are you seeing her every week?

Sarah

Trev
09-11-05, 18:10
Well done Nic.

The thing I've always wonderd with meds is this. I'm under the impression that you are given them so that you can have a period of being "back to normal" so that you can then deal with the issues that are meant to be causing the attacks. You seem to me to be aware of what the problems are, seem to dealing with them well enough and are aware of how to deal with them. So is there a need for the meds anyway?

Just a thought really.

All the best,
Trev

nomorepanic
09-11-05, 19:20
Sarah - I am just waiting for the referral to the other woman to come through and then I will see how often she wants to see me.

Trev - I was shocked at her saying that as I told her I had been off meds 7 years now and had no intention of going back on them. She seemed to think I needed them but I don't see how she can say that after knowing me for an hour. Anyway I am not going back on them and can't see how they will help as I am not depressed. Do I seem depressed to you lol.

Nicola

trac67
09-11-05, 19:55
Nic,

Sounds good advice about the concentating on something else when you feel anxious while driving, keep practising it will come to you in the end.

I agree with the med thing I was put on them 7 years ago for the short term and everytime I asked about stopping them I was told it wasnt the right time.

I have decided myself now is the right time lol, and I am not going to go back on them, and now the doctor knows I have stopped them she seems to be ok about it, well she doesnt really have a choice lol.

Like Trev just said if you know the problems and know how to deal with them, are there really any need to take the meds.

And I agree Nic, I got depressed due to suffering anxiety not the other way around, I used to be the most happy go lucky person ever, and there was no way I was depressed before my first panic attack struck.

I believe it is stress that triggers of the panic attacks 90% of the time, the depression follows after.

Anyways Nic onwards and upwards eh........... lol

Well done
Love Trac xxxxxxx


'Live your life with arms wide open, today is where your book begins, the rest is still unwritten'

Piglet
09-11-05, 20:12
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Another comment was that almost all panic episodes follow some form of depression. I always thought it was the other way round cos I got depressed because of the panic but she said that there must have been something lurking around anyway in my life and then it manifested as panic attacks.

I think that is it – well all I can remember anyway!


Nicola

<div align="right">Originally posted by nomorepanic - 09 November 2005 : 16:20:47</div id="right">
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Well thinking about this it took three years after my marriage break up and the subsequent coping emotionally, physically and financially for me to have my first panic attack.

I didn't see myself as depressed but my doctor said anxiety is a form of depression you don't necessarily sit around wringing a hankie in your hands and wailing to be depressed.

So maybe she is right!!

Not sure about the meds though, although I think they are entirely right in certain circumstances I do think they are dished out a little too freely.

Well done for dealing with it all and think the trying the roadworks in little stages is good.

Anyway petal, when is Meg coming home, think she has been away too long now and should come back and next time she needs to check with us first how long she can have (only teasin Meg but we are missing you).

Love Piglet :)

"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.

Quirky
09-11-05, 22:57
Glad it went ok Nic and that you will be getting the CBT. You stick to your guns regarding meds, I did and CBT is really helping me.
Interesting about the panic following depression. I have anxiety/panic but have never been even slightly depressed so not sure about that one. My CBT therapist (trained psychiatrist too) said you can have anxiety without depression. I have had two mental health assessments in the pastg where they have assessed me for depression and anxiety and the results have never indicated depression not even mildly.
Anyway good luck with it all,
Take care,
Lisa

jos
10-11-05, 19:50
i see a chartered psycologist - the going rate is £35-£40 a 1hr session but i did pay £60 for one when i was looking around

if you pay its worth checking out a few therapists to see who you relate to best -

i checked out the chartered psycologists web site for some but found mine through the local university's chartered psycology degree course counsellor's list - the psycology students need counselling to get them through there time with suicidal clients!!

its well worth finding a good one and don't be afraid to change if they are not helping

cheers jos

Karen
10-11-05, 21:22
Hi Nic

Just caught up with this and it's great that you are being referred for CBT. I hope the wait isn't too long.

The questions you were asked were very similar to the ones I was asked at my assessment with the psychiatrist - only she didn't get very much out of me[8)].

I believe that it is possible to have anxiety and panic without depression, whereas my therapist says that depression always involves some level of anxiety. I personally don't remember which came first because it is too long ago when it all started.


<b id="quote">quote:</b id="quote"><table border="0" id="quote"><tr id="quote"><td class="quote" id="quote">She suggested that maybe in the near future I was put back on anti-depressants to “prevent” the depression resurfacing. She wanted to prescribe Seroxat but would allow me to have Prozac instead because of the bad press about Seroxat and my opinion of it. I said I didn’t want to go down the anti-depressant route so we are going to see what the CBT can do.</td id="quote"></tr id="quote"></table id="quote">
That doesn't surprise me. Psychiatrists are used to treating patients with mental illnesses that do require medication and think that anyone with any kind of emotional problem needs medication too. I don't think I have seen one psychiatrist that hasn't prescribed antidepressants of one description or another. The only reason I am not on any now is because I refused to take them.

I think you need to use your own judgement about this and if you don't want antidepressants then there is no need to take them.

Hope you hear something soon.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

nomorepanic
22-11-05, 16:27
I am fuming at the moment.:([:O]

I got a call from the lady that wants to see me for CBT and she said she can see me before Xmas - great![:P]

So I explained that I was still waiting for PPP to say I can go ahead with it cos they were waiting for a report from the psychiatrist.

Anyway I chased the psychiatrist and she said that her report will be sent today. I am worried about it anyway as I expect she will say that this issue is from previous problems I have had so I wouldn't be covered anyway.

So just to be safe I called PPP and gave them an update and told them who I was being referred to see.

Guess what[Sigh...][No]

I am not allowed to see this CBT specialist cos she is not on their list.

Please excuse my language here but *******:(:(

I asked them what I was supposed to do now and they said "well if she isn't registered with us then you have to find someone else".

I did ask the psychiatrist at the time if she had anyone else she could refer me to and she said that this woman was the best one for CBT.

So I am now back at square one and getting nowhere fast! 2 months have past and I could have been on the NHS waiting list for that time as well.

So I guess I am just going to have to pay for it myself and find someone that is slightly cheaper than over £200 an hour.

Sorry - just wanted to rant [V][:O]

Nicola

Karen
22-11-05, 16:46
Sorry to hear about this Nic. What a fiasco!

It is just typical of bureaucracy. Sometimes it feels like you're banging your head against a brick wall doesn't it?

Hope you can find someone else soon.

Karen



It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere.

Quirky
22-11-05, 17:19
Aww Nic. Sorry to hear that, I can understand why you're fuming, I would be too.
I hope you manage to find someone soon though, my CBT costs £94 a session but it varies in my area from £70 - £135 a session. It is expensive but well worth it in my opinion. Good luck.
Lisa

tammyg
22-11-05, 19:01
Oh no! How annoying. It's ridiculous, especially as you have been waiting so long.

Hope you manage to sort something else out soon.

Tammy x

desperate
22-11-05, 21:42
Sorry to hear that, I don't think people realise how annoying all of this gets sometimes!

Sarah

Trev
22-11-05, 22:36
Sorry Nic, this thread slipped through for some reason. Didn't mean to ignore you.


<b id="quote">quote:</b id="quote"><table border="0" id="quote"><tr id="quote"><td class="quote" id="quote">Trev - I was shocked at her saying that as I told her I had been off meds 7 years now and had no intention of going back on them. She seemed to think I needed them but I don't see how she can say that after knowing me for an hour. Anyway I am not going back on them and can't see how they will help as I am not depressed.</td id="quote"></tr id="quote"></table id="quote">

Good for you. You can do it without.

Sorry to hear about the fiasco with the PPP. Frustrating or what. Surely they could have made you aware of the need to operate from a list they hold.
Is it absolute that you have to use their people? Sometimes insurance companies just try to push people a certain way and in reality you do have choice. Could be worth checking that it is 100% certain that you cannot use your lady. Without wishing to stress you any more. Just a thought.

Take care,

Trev x

Piglet
23-11-05, 10:59
Stupid people!

Hope you get it sorted soon Nic.

love Pig :)

"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.

nomorepanic
23-11-05, 11:47
Quick update

I spoke to the psychiatrist and she said that the CBT woman must be with PPP as she sees clients already that are with PPP.

Anyway I spoke to CBT woman and she has given me her referrer code to give to PPP.

The only hurdle now is the letter from the psychiatrist to PPP as in it she says that I am suffering from mild depression and that I had a previous episode in 2000 and they may say that it was a pre-existing condition that they won't cover so we have to wait and see!

What a long drawn-out process eh?

Nicola

pinkscrumpy
23-11-05, 15:41
Good Luck with it all Nic. Hope it gets sorted soon.

Thinking of you.

love

MANDIE XX

Will I ever escape this?
Will I ever be free?
Wake me up from this nightmare.
Please just give me the key!

Trev
23-11-05, 18:09
Good for you Nic.

I'm sure that if the discussion of pre-existing condition arises there will be a loophole for you.

Pain in the proverbial but at least it's going forward, if slowly.

Cheers,
Trev

Meg
23-11-05, 18:21
What a PITA

Glad you're getting there ..

Love
Meg

kate
23-11-05, 22:33
Hi Nic,

Just to say that I hope it all gets sorted for you very soon and you can start getting the help that you need.

Love Kate xx