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Flying Badger
26-08-09, 04:40
Hi Folks.

Firstly, I hope I'm posting this in the right place - moderators / admins, please move it to the correct place if required!

Right. I thought I would post a short-version of the tale as to when & how my problems with panic began.

I had been unemployed for two years, after being sacked and escorted from the premises at 23:45, 31st December 1999. I celebrated the coming of Year 2000 with a 12 mile walk home after being falsley accused of stealing from my employer. The case went to court (by my request) and was thrown out owing to lack of evidence against me.

I started my new job in a call centre, two weeks into 2002. The new job was going well, and after 2 months, I was settled nicley. I woke up one morning with a terible wheeze, and was struggling for breath. I went in to work, but found it extremely difficult talking on the phone. I phoned my GP surgery, who suggested I head straight there. I was very suprised to hear my GP say that he thought I had pneumonia, but his diagnosis was confirmed after he sent me to hospital, where I spent 3 days.

I had a total of 2 weeks off work, with a sicknote from my GP, and on my return, the problems began.

I was taken into a 'back to work' meeting with my manager, and the department manager. After being told how dissapointed they were that a new employee should have 2 weeks sick leave, I was given notice that should I fall ill again within 6 months, it would lead to a disciplinary hearing.

After around 4 months, I noticed that my throat was getting rather sore, and wasnt showing any sign of improving. Whilst at work, my voice completley dissapeared. As you can imagine, this was quite a problem, considering I worked in a call centre. Nobody could hear me over the phone, and it was extremely painful to talk. I asked my manager if I could take half an hour off phone duties, but was refused, being told "you are paid to take phone calls, so get on with it". I struggled on for a few days, and made an appointment with my GP. He diagnosed laryngitis, and after asking what I did for a living, he reccomended I find alternative duties for at least a week, or until my voice / throat had fully recovered. I advised my manager of this, but was again told, "you are paid to take phone calls". I even paid for a private letter to be drafted by my GP, that I could take into work. This was also dismissed. Knowing this, my GP gave me a 3 week sicknote, and told to go back to him before I returned to work.

The three weeks without spending 8 hours a day on the phone worked wonders. I returned to work, only to be faced by a 'formal capability hearing' where I was lambasted for having sick leave, and given a final written warning, with the letter saying should I have any further sick leave in the next 12 months, I could lose my job.

Within a few weeks of returning to work, my sore throat and lack of voice returned. In order to try and avoid sick leave, I took two weeks holiday, and again, went to see my GP. I was refered to ENT, and was lucky to get a quick appointment - before I was due back at work.

The ENT professor said there was little I could do to avoid this repeating cycle, aside from reduce the amount of time I spent on the phone. He wrote to my employer explaining this, as I had told him of the difficulties I had.

The Union also got involved, and reluctantly, my employer agreed that my phone duties would be reduced, and other tasks would be given to me. In reality, this meant that I would occasionally be given written correspondence, although this was less than an hour per week.

This uneasy situation remained for over a year. I was able to keep my voice working by taking holiday leave of a few days every month, again, to avoid sick leave.

It was at this point that I began to get daily phone calls from management, even if I was on holiday, or my usual day off. These would always be before 9am, and management would tell me I was in trouble when I went back in, or that "they were watching me". Sometimes, I would burst into tears whilst on the phone to a manager, only to be told "I really could do without your complaining" or "I dont need this".

This went on for a couple of months, and my pleas for it to stop were ignored. I was also getting similar tratment when at work - countless "meetings" where management would tell me I'd done something wrong, or being given tasks to do shortly before lunch, then not being allowed to take my full half hour.

I had begun playing for a local pub pool team, and was at an 'away' match. I had won my game, and was enjoying the evening. Then, the sudden (and familiar) chest pains began. I became breathless, began to sweat, and felt weak all over.

The next thing I recall is being in the back of an ambulance. I'd had my first panic attack.

I wasn't discharged from hospital in time to start my 8am shift at work, and had asked my parents to let them know. When I turned on my mobile phone after leaving casualty, I had over a dozen messages from my manager, saying I had to be at work the next day, and there was a disciplinary meeting scheduled. I didn't get far before collapsing, and again, was taken into casualty. They said I was probably suffering from severe stress, and they asked my GP to give me a sick note for a week, which he duly did.

During this week, the phone calls carried on, and I even had a manager try to visit me at home. My parents refused to let her in, but the phone calls continued.

I was required to see the company doctor, who made scathing remarks about my "so called stress" and told me to lose weight, and stop slacking. I even had a phone call from my manager on the way home, saying she expected me back at work the following day, even though the sicknote hadn't expired.

After the week was up, I was about to leave the house for my short walk to work. I found I was unable to walk through the front door. After quite an argument with my Dad, I was almost man handled into his car, and bundled out of the car outside work. I spent a good 10 minuites stood outside, crying, shaking and vomiting. A colleague had spotted me outside, and informed my manager, who came out, and said things I can't repeat on this forum. Fearing for my job, I managed to enter the building, but spend a good deal of the day sat in silence at my desk, ignoring the phone calls that were coming in.

This scenario ended up lasting for about a month. I eventually ended up cutting my wrist. I still don't know weather it was an attempt at suicide, or just a cry for help. I haven't self harmed since, I assume it was the latter.

A psychiatric nuse at hospital said I was probably suffering from depression. I went to see my GP, and was given a three month sicknote. My employer was not at all impressed by this, and even complained to my GP.

Once the three month sicknote was close to ending, I was given another by my GP. Upon receiving it, I was called to a disciplinary meeting at work, and dismissed for "failing to meet my contractual obligation to attend work".

I have suffered with Panic Disorder ever since. I can suffer anything from a single panic attack per day, to being in an almost constant state of panic for several days, sometimes over a week.

Panic Disorder has since cost me two other jobs, both times involving having an attack at work, and an ignorant manager, who saw it as either an excuse not to work, or decided he didn't want "one of your type" working for him.

I had started to make a small recovery, but in January this year, my Dad had his second major cancer operation, and had radiotherapy for 6 weeks. During this period, my Mum had a stroke, and now requires full time supervision, responsibility of which has fallen to me.

Anyway, I'm sure you are all fed up of reading such a long post now, and I apologise if this kind of post is not the kind of thing to put here. However, I wanted people to know how it got started, and, perhaps, there may be others who are in / been in a similar situation, can see they are not alone.

Cheers

Gary

skylace22
26-08-09, 08:34
Hi Gary.....

Sorry to hear about your problems with panic/anxiety attacks - after reading your story I think your past employers have a lot to answer for. Their behaviour towards you was totally out of order and its no wonder it caused you stress and panic. Unfortunately not a lot of people understand panic attacks but that is no excuse for the way they treated you!

I have recently sunk back into agoraphobia which is doing my head in - I really thought the panic had gone and I have spent 9 years challenging myself and doing well. Ah I guess we just have to learn to live with it but it is tough work!

It is a possibility that your work situation triggered your panic or if not, certainly contributed to it and its a shame that it has cost you other jobs. I really want to work at the moment but it is so bloody difficult!

I also ended up in an ambulance after my first panic attack and it is really scary - have you learnt any tricks or coping mechanisms for when the panic arises? there are various things you can do to help - some might work, some may not but it is worth a try.

Will type more when I am more alert - been awake all night!

Flying Badger
11-09-09, 01:35
Hi Folks.

Sorry I haven't posted for a couple of weeks - I haven't been online a great deal.

Well, I can say without doubt, I'm having my worst battle with panic that I've ever had. I'm lucky to get 5 minuites out of the day without chest pain, numb left arm & hand, feeling sick, dizzy to the point of being unable to stand..... The speech problem is also getting worse too, and I find myself spending 2 to 3 hours at a time unable to say a single word, often with my left cheek tingling.

I ended up going to the out of hours GP at about 01:30 Wednesday - the chest pain had spread to my abdomen, and was throbbing. I was also getting wave after wave of whole body sweats. Even my legs were glistning with perspiration. A very quick (30 seconds at most) physical exam later, I was told I had a "very minor tummy upset" and told to buy some Gaviscon the next morning. Needless to say, I wasn't (and am still not) convinced - and it cost me £19 in taxi fares!

I haven't had more than an hour of sleep since then, and even as I am typing this, feel like I have a huge weight pressing down on the centre of my chest. My upper abdomen keeps throbbing, and it feels like I am laid belly-down on a tennis ball. Everything turns periodicaly dark. I have already reached, and passed, the stage where I would go to casualty, but I don't have the £20 taxi fare needed to get me there (my total wealth until Wednesday is £1.16). I'm having to fight really hard not to call for an ambulance.

The only positive thing in the last couple of weeks is that I saw a CBT therapist on Wednesday afternoon, although only for an initial assessment. Aside from my trip to the out of hours GP, and CBT therapist, I haven't left the house in 10 days, even cancelling at the last moment (the chap had already arrived at the station) an afternoon out with a friend who had come from Readding to see me (I live in Nottingham).

I have to admit, that at the moment, I really don't know how much more of this I can handle. Dad has a new, unopened bottle of Oramorph in the cupboard, and were it not for my feeling guilty at robbing him of his much needed pain releif, it's a tempting prospect to take a few gulps.

I'm seeing the CBT therapist again next Wednesday, so I suppose my goal should be to try and keep myself together until then.

hollygirl
11-09-09, 11:15
I am so sorry you are having such a bad time. I think your employers have been absolute evil s**ts. I cannot believe how they have treated you! I thought mine were bad!

It is horrifying that they can treat you in this way. And surely illegal? My problems started when my dad died but I think work made everything a hundred times worse. I also was dismissed a while back but managed to get a compromise agreement through a lawyer. I could have taken em to the cleaners apparently but I do not have the mental or physical strength to do that.

I suffer with agoraphobia and a fear of being alone too! So am totally trapped - great! I hope the CBT therapist helps. Your GP should be able to help too if you go back and tell them just how bad you feel.

Lots of hugs.
Holly, xx


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mystic3178
11-09-09, 12:37
I can't believe that Gary was treated so badly. What they did was illegal. It's harrasment. They can't ring you like that when you are off on sick leave. My wife went throught something similar and in the end for sanity's sake, she left her job. She now works in a solicitors office. Loves the work but would have like some other company during the day but as she says, I can't have it both ways. I have told her that if she finds another position that suits, go for it. Bill are getting paid okay so we can afford to take a hit for a few months.

AS for you Gary. You are better off out of the Job you were in. A friend did one of those jobs and said that it was a demoralising position and got out of it quick.

Take the time out and don't rush things.

Mystic3178

Flying Badger
12-09-09, 15:45
Hi folks - thanks for the supportive messages!

Yeah, I wish I'd had the energy to challenge what my employer did. At the end of my final 'hearing', my union rep was all for taking things further, getting the regional officer involved etc, but I never heard from him again. I wouldn't be totally suprised if my employer 'got at' my rep in some way to discourage him.

When you've had everything from lifestyle to weight bought into question by management, it doesn't take long to figure out what kind of people they were.

The only reason I haven't mentioned the name of the company I worked for, is that I don't want to leave myself open to any trouble. I will say though, I used to work for an energy supplier, and the call centre I worked at was in Nottingham. I wasn't the only person to be treated badly either - I know for certain that other people were ill when they worked at / left that place.