religon fears

[wanttodieangie]

does anyone have then how do i cope?

[Meg]

Fears about religion are extremely common indeed although there are wide variation about the fears.
What are your fears and if you can, tell us a bit about your background ?


Meg

Watch your thoughts, they become your words...
Watch your words, they become your actions... Watch your actions, they become your habits... Watch your habits, they become your character... Watch your character, it becomes your destiny...

[wanttodieangie]

its about a evil being who i cant mention taking my son away

[nomorepanic]

Hi Angie

I sent you an email cos you signed the guest book and I suggested you came here but it seems that you have already found it so that is good.

Do you know why you have these thoughts and what started them?


Nicola

[wanttodieangie]

well my mum is very relious but it really hit when i had my son 14 months ago, but i can rember having obsesive thoughts when i was very young, and i feel like i have given in to them i am so scared somting will happen:(

[benoo5]

hi angie,

ime glad that you have found this site...whatever thoughts you might have,there is usually an underlying anxiety,that has yet to be discovered.

please give more information,about your life,and your background..there are many religious beliefs..tell us about your beliefs,and that of your family.

best wishes..bryan.

[Meg]

Ok Angie, so they probably came a very long time ago, maybe a threat that was made when you were a child that sounded horrific at the time.

You may or may not want to get to the bottom of them but in the present time you will not have affected you or your family by allowing these thoughts to intrude.

They remain within your head only and are your thoughts alone. Not instructions from anywhere and not 'a sign' of things to come. It's no different from any of other intrusive obsessive thoughts - just a different topic thats caught your attention

Are you very religious too still ?



Meg

Watch your thoughts, they become your words...
Watch your words, they become your actions... Watch your actions, they become your habits... Watch your habits, they become your character... Watch your character, it becomes your destiny...

[wanttodieangie]

Well i have the usall choaloic rellious beliefs, i am twenty i live with my boyfriend and our son who is 14 months. i am frightened all the time that i have done something to my son, i dont really want to carry on anymore i am only here because of my mum, dad, parner and son.
i lost my brother 3 months ago very suddenly but it has changed the ocd.
pplease tell me my son will be fine
i cant cope anymore, my mum doesnt belive it exists and i cant talk to my dad he has a lot on his mind, i wake up evry morning in fear.:(

-angie

[wanttodieangie]

And because i said something a few months ago i think somethings happened.
i cant talk to anyone at home, and i cant talk to a doctor last time i talked to a doctor they tried to lock me away(mis-diganosed) so i live in fear.
PLEASE HELP ME!!!

[Meg]

Angie ,

Just because there are thoughts in your head there is no need to think anything will happen to your son. They are your own personal thoughts and nothing will have changed in you or your sons future because of something you said.

Could you speak to a priest/counsellor about it at all ?


Meg

Watch your thoughts, they become your words...
Watch your words, they become your actions... Watch your actions, they become your habits... Watch your habits, they become your character... Watch your character, it becomes your destiny...

[wanttodieangie]

i cant talk to a prist i am too scared. and my son is only 14 months and when he sees that being on tv he crys and i have not said anything to my son about it. but sometimes i get a feeling saying what right to i have to do that to my son only god does then it comes back

[Laurie28]

Hiya,

When I was reaLLY BAD WITH pnd AND gad i was terrifiesd i WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO MY BABY SON. I spoke to my health visitor who was excellent. I don't know why I thought I was going to do something i was petrified that I would lose my mind and do something without me knowing it (like u read in newspapers) anyway the hv was great and really reassured me and helped me that i wasn't crazy and wasn't going to flip out

can u speak to your health visitor for reassurance?

Lucky

[wanttodieangie]

i dont talk to my health vistor anymore after she said she was going to report me to socail services, someone please tell me my son will be fine:(

[Meg]

Hi Angie,

Nothing you're thinking and worrying about will harm your child, but I do think that to find your way out of this you may need to confide in someone, perhaps a counsellor type person who can help put things in perspective and work with you closely to make these these worries subside.

Meg

[wanttodieangie]

last time i did they tryed to put me away

[Laurie28]

Hiya,

I have to agree with Radar, you have to speak to a professional. They cannot take your son away because you are having 'intrusive thoughts'

I don't want to pry too much but what were the circumstances when they 'tried to put you away'.

You don't have to answer me but I must admit i am struggling to grasp the story from your posts.

Lucky

[wanttodieangie]

well i went see my doctor then he refured me to a mental health doctor i told them everything and they tred to commit me

[Meg]

Hi Angie,

If the mental health doctor had really wanted you to be an inpatient then he would have insisted on it there and then. They probably realized how unhappy and upset you were and by having you as an inpatient for a short while, you would be well looked after, prescribed some medication that would help, have some time 1:1 with a therapist and be discharged in a few days feeling much happier than you are now.
Things have moved on a lot in the last few years and people don't get 'committed' anymore, they get admitted to get helped and supported closer than they can do in the community.

If anyone had thought that anything was unsafe with your son or that he was in danger then he would be carefully monitored.

I urge you to seek help for yourself via your own doctor, a walk-in clinic or by phoning NHS direct so you can start to be helped properly to get over this obstacle to your happiness.

I want to reemphasize that nothing you have said or thought can have any impact on your little boy. He is a healthy toddler and you are looking after him well.

Whatever fears your Mum or others have instilled in you over your life definately cannot hurt either of you.

A TV actor playing a character cannot hurt either of you either. The reoccurring thoughts are , just as you have already identified, a form of OCD which is a condition that can be helped. It is not a pre runner to hurting anyone from what you have said or thought.

Please think about geting some professional and specialist help as it will help very quickly.

We are here to support you but clearly there are lots of details that quite understandably, you do not want to post about, so we don't know how to help you best.

If you'd like to email me directly you can do so Angie.

Please take great care of yourself and continue to let us know how you get on. We have grown to care about you and want to know that you are getting help for yourself so you can improve.

What does your boyfriend think of the situation ?

Hear from you soon.

Meg







Meg

Watch your thoughts, they become your words...
Watch your words, they become your actions... Watch your actions, they become your habits... Watch your habits, they become your character... Watch your character, it becomes your destiny...

[sarah]

Hiya Angie

Ive been reading your posts and I see that you are really distressed with how you are feeling. I see you dont want to see any medical professionals or a priest etc but you obviously want to talk to someone.

Just a thought here and I dont know how you would feel about it, but have you thought about phoning the samaritans? I think they even have a website that you can contact them through now.

They might not be able to give you specific advice, but they are there to listen to you and its anonymous so you wouldnt even have to give them your name.

Anyway, its just a thought. I really hope you get the help you want. Your son will be fine, you arent doing anything to hurt him, its just your thoughts. Believe me, if people knew what went on in my head sometimes, I wouldnt be classed as 'normal' and neither would a lot of people either.

love Sarah
xx

[wanttodieangie]

i cant talk on the telephone ethier i get too nervous and have a painc atack. thankyou all but it hink theres no hope for me. hope you all get the help yiu need.
byexx

[Meg]

Angie,

There is always hope and although having panic and anxiety with these intrusive thoughts feels so awful - they are not real and cannot hurt you and there is lots of ways you can be helped but you do need to reach out for it just as you advise us all to do - in getting the help we need.

You too need help to overcome this and as the phone is hard and there is too much detail and circumstance to tell us on here as it's public then Please do go and visit someone or ask someone at home to ring someone that you can ask some help from.

We have told you catagorically that whatever you said previously will not harm you or your son. Please have some belief in something.


Meg

Watch your thoughts, they become your words...
Watch your words, they become your actions... Watch your actions, they become your habits... Watch your habits, they become your character... Watch your character, it becomes your destiny...

[sarah]

Hiya Angie

I get nervous on the phone too, so I can understand you not wanting to call so thats ok.

Please dont say theres no hope for you because that means there might not be hope for me too and the last thing I want is to carry on living my life like this. I WANT to get better, I WANT to live a normal life like I used too and im determined to do it.

Having said all that, I know its not easy to do, it takes a lot of determination which I admit I sometimes lack but if you could have seen me just 10 months ago, all I did was sit looking out my window, constantly panicking and thinking awful thoughts about anything and everything. Its taken a lot but even thought im on a bit of a downer at the moment, I was out clubbing 3 weeks ago for the first time in 2 years which I NEVER thought I would ever do again!!!

There is hope for me, all the others on here and for YOU too!!!!!!

Please keep posting on here and letting us know how you are, we all care and we want to help!

love Sarah
xx

[benoo5]

hi angie,

if your not happy,talking on the phone,then do try.

www.samaritans.org.uk

everyone here will tell you,that sometime in their life,there has been a time,when they really did think,they were the only person suffering from certain symptoms,thoughts,beliefs...only to come to sites like this,and have their eyes opened to the fact,that that others suffer/have suffered from the same problems as themselves.

keep posting angie,and do take meg up,on her offer,and email her..shes been there,and got the T shirt....best wishes..bryan.

[Laurie28]

Angie,

Never give up hope. Please try the website Bryan has put a link for and let us know how you get on

Take Care
Lucky

[wanttodieangie]

i cant carry on, anymore!
i am so scared something will happen to my baby!
i would die for him!
would god help?

[nomorepanic]

Angie

You can carry on and you know that no harm will come to your baby. He will be fine won't he?

If you feel the need to pray to God then you can but you still need to fight back at the panic and the negative thoughts that you keep getting.

Chin up and you can do it ok?

Nicola

[Samantha]

Hi Angie

There is ALWAYS hope, your son is fine no harm will come to him! You can get through this, and you will believe in yourself as you do in others!

Have you spoken to anyone or contacted the Samirtans? they are there to listen and they offer support, if you cant ring or visit one of there centres email them, i have done in the past and it honestly really did work. I dont like using the phone either so i emailed them instead, and they always replied within 24 hours, please contact them they will be able to offer you emotional support and talk things through with you.
The people who work there go by the name 'jo' and anything you say is completely confidential so you dont hae to worry about ppl finding out and you can request early deletion of emails you send.
IT DOES WORK AND IT DOES HELP!
email: jo@samaritans.org
Keep your chin up and try not too worry, your son is fine, these are thoughts, and you WILL get through this!!!

Sam

Positive thinking is the key to success!

[angiefrost]

dont want to go on anymore, my son saw the advert again and clung on to me so tight and cryed. If my hubby was at home instead of being on nights i might have ended it but i love my son.

[sarah]

Hi Angie

Long time no hear.
Please dont say you dont want to go on anymore. I cant begin to imagine how bad you are feeling but you have to be there for your son. Why does this advert distress your boy so much? Next time its on, just switch the tv over so he cant see it...can you tell us what it is about?

Have you been to your doctors? I know you didnt want to tell anyone about your problems for fear of them putting you away but I really do think that you need something (medication) to help you.

Do you take anything for your feelings and look after yourself?
Try using a herbal alternative like St Johns wort...you can buy it over the counter no questions asked and it works for a lot of people.

Do you go out much? My depression always get worse if I dont get out and see the daylight often. Have you got a garden that you can do some work on to keep you occupied?

I dont know what else to say to help you.
please keep posting and let us know how you are.

love and best wishes
Sarah
xx

[april tones]

What advert is it? i have pnd, it sounds like you could have this, go to another doctor.Couldnt your partner change shifts at work? mine has and its got loads better for us. You need to be strong for your son and fight this, take everyones advice about samaritians, talk to partner, take care, love april

apriltones

[angiefrost]

I had pnd, its the gavascon ad, i cant see another doctor

[april tones]

what happens it this as i havent seen before

apriltones

[rackel]

Hi there
I have also had horrible thoughts about religion. I was brought up in a quite strict religion with strict rules and teachings. I decided at 17 that it wasnt for me and i left the religion which was a very difficult time. My mum told me to leave home so i did.
I was having very scary thoughts about you know who and i thought i was going to be possesed. Irational as this was i was very scared and this i think is haw my panic attactks started. I know where you are coming from this is a very scary thing to deal with. I lernt to deal withthis but sadly i still have panic attacks (but not to do with the religion). I just had to remember that I am putting these thoughts in to my mind, i can get them out. so you could say I know how disturbing and horrible this can be. If you need to talk perhaps I can help
Love Rachel x x x