Idstain
28-01-10, 16:28
Hi guys, i am just cross posting a post i made on another forum.
thoughts on mindfulness to cure or reduce the symptoms of anxiety and depression?
It seems incredible to me and i have had some great results so far and am not far from full health again. I recommend watching this video by Jon Kabat-Zinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8ftmmhmw just skip to around 42minutes to see the results from some studies on it.
here are 2 graphs from the video showing the respective anxiety and depression over a 20 week period. he goes on to say in the video that these results are the same 3 years on when they checked with the patients. edit: this is actually for patients who have chronic health problems such as CFS alongside their psychiatric issues
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4274816424_55d2f073db_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2736/4274816426_152ecd10e9_o.jpg
I don't really understand the specifics of this graph but i am led to believe that this is essentially a measure of happiness, the mark on the left is that of mathieu ricard a famous buddhist monk, his result is 8 standard deviations from the mean (that's huge incase you don't know your statistics)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4274816428_b65e4d8b74_o.jpg
three very good books on the subject
Full Catastrophe Living by Jon Kabat-Zinn (http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Wisdom-Illness/dp/0385303122/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495138&sr=8-1)
Peace Is Every Step by Thich Nhat Hanh (http://www.amazon.com/Peace-Every-Step-Mindfulness-Everyday/dp/0553351397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495274&sr=1-1)
Happiness by Mathieu Ricard (http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Guide-Developing-Lifes-Important/dp/0316167258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495361&sr=1-1)
The first one is pretty heavy going so you may want to avoid that one at first, i feel as though everybody regardless of physical or mental health could get great benefit from the other two.
I am reading Happiness by Mathieu Ricard right now, inside the front cover they have a quote from Aaron Beck, the creator of CBT.
"In this highly readable and enlightening volume, Matthieu Ricard offers us the keys to opening up the chambers of the mind where serenity resides. His elegant descriptions show us how the preoccupation with the self leads to the detrimental urges, thoughts and feelings that present barriers to genuine liberation."
I could write alot about this but ill be as brief as i can. Essentially, meditation and mindfulness allow us to seperate ourselves from our thoughts and see them for what they are and it also teaches us to be present in every moment of our lives, to not push away, to not fight, to be at peace with ourselves (this ties in very closely with Claire weekes' face, accept, float and let time pass)
Please look in to this if you want to get rid of your anxiety.
Who ever heard of an anxious or depressed buddhist monk? :)
thoughts on mindfulness to cure or reduce the symptoms of anxiety and depression?
It seems incredible to me and i have had some great results so far and am not far from full health again. I recommend watching this video by Jon Kabat-Zinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8ftmmhmw just skip to around 42minutes to see the results from some studies on it.
here are 2 graphs from the video showing the respective anxiety and depression over a 20 week period. he goes on to say in the video that these results are the same 3 years on when they checked with the patients. edit: this is actually for patients who have chronic health problems such as CFS alongside their psychiatric issues
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4274816424_55d2f073db_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2736/4274816426_152ecd10e9_o.jpg
I don't really understand the specifics of this graph but i am led to believe that this is essentially a measure of happiness, the mark on the left is that of mathieu ricard a famous buddhist monk, his result is 8 standard deviations from the mean (that's huge incase you don't know your statistics)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4274816428_b65e4d8b74_o.jpg
three very good books on the subject
Full Catastrophe Living by Jon Kabat-Zinn (http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Wisdom-Illness/dp/0385303122/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495138&sr=8-1)
Peace Is Every Step by Thich Nhat Hanh (http://www.amazon.com/Peace-Every-Step-Mindfulness-Everyday/dp/0553351397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495274&sr=1-1)
Happiness by Mathieu Ricard (http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Guide-Developing-Lifes-Important/dp/0316167258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263495361&sr=1-1)
The first one is pretty heavy going so you may want to avoid that one at first, i feel as though everybody regardless of physical or mental health could get great benefit from the other two.
I am reading Happiness by Mathieu Ricard right now, inside the front cover they have a quote from Aaron Beck, the creator of CBT.
"In this highly readable and enlightening volume, Matthieu Ricard offers us the keys to opening up the chambers of the mind where serenity resides. His elegant descriptions show us how the preoccupation with the self leads to the detrimental urges, thoughts and feelings that present barriers to genuine liberation."
I could write alot about this but ill be as brief as i can. Essentially, meditation and mindfulness allow us to seperate ourselves from our thoughts and see them for what they are and it also teaches us to be present in every moment of our lives, to not push away, to not fight, to be at peace with ourselves (this ties in very closely with Claire weekes' face, accept, float and let time pass)
Please look in to this if you want to get rid of your anxiety.
Who ever heard of an anxious or depressed buddhist monk? :)