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Hi,
Just thought I would update. Had appointment with GP today as not been feeling too good again last few days, hoping it is just a blip as I know most of us have them.
I am on the list for councelling/cbt so that should come up soon and am hoping that will help me.
GP want me to stay on the mirtazipine, I told him how I had been feeling with the morning anxiety which has been lasting into the afternoons these past few days and he said to persevere as it should settle again. I told him I feel lack of motivation and that the weight is an issue but he weighed me and said that I was only 4ibs heavier and to try not to make an issue with it as maybe when I have had the councelling I can drop down to 15mg???
He gave me diazepam to help if I need to take them, I do know they are addictive and only ever take when absolutely necessary!!
Anyhow lets see how I go and hopefully things will take a turn again. I feel like a yo yo at the moment...perhaps I should call myself joyo!!! LOl!!!
Jo.xx
Im taking mirtazapine too. I also get the anxity in the morning that gradually passes during the day. By night time im mnore relaxed, and then its time to start the cycle all over again! Its depressing feeling like every day is just a repeat of the previous one :(
My GP has just prescribed me Seroxat to take in addition to the mirtazapine in the hope itll bring down my anxiety levels.
ElizabethJane
11-05-10, 22:35
Dear Jo I'm sorry that you have been struggling again. I have been flitting in and out and have been very busy but I have noticed your posts even if I haven't replied to them. I know that you are feeling low now and negative. If you can try to think about how far you have come and Stones song 'Paint it Black ' as that sums up my depression entirely(it might not be about depression at all!!). It is the way that we look at things sometimes that dictates a positive or negative outcome. It was dear old Dr J who gave me this analogy (and also an introduction to CBT although at the time I was too ill to use it. Something that I use to help my own transition out of depression is think of the consequences (for me ) of being ill, losing my job, my family going into hospital. The thought of all that these days is enough to keep me going. Dark times are hard. Last Winter I felt low low low but I tried to meditate and prayed to God and slowly I came out of a very dark time. Years ago (and I've still got it) there was a tape by Dr Claire Weekes called 'Goodnight Good Morning' which deals with morning anxiety. I know those feelings of dread very well. I have also used books of affirmations and 'thoughts for the day' Now it is more likely to be radio three. Anything that can be a distraction and can get you throught the first few hours. Sorry for the ramblings make of it what you will. I hope that you begin to feel better soon.
Hi Vixxy,
How long have you taken mirt for and then seroxat, I didnt know you could take both at the same time??? Would love a bit more info from you if you dont mind?? Do you work and how do you cope? I always wonder how the hell I will get through each day when I wake up feeling so awful but by evening I cannot believe I felt like it. I work full-time and I know that I have to keep pushing myself to go in as it is a distraction....but most days it feels so hard.
Thanks for replying, helps to chat to someone going through something similiar.
Take care
Jo.xx
Hi Elizabeth-Jane,
Bless you, you have been through so much. Thanks for your reply. It has made me think that yes I need to think alot more positive as there are people alot worse than I am. I am sorry you lost your job. If I lost mine we would be in financial ruin. I think I am at a stage where I have to go to work to distract myself as if I was stuck here I think I would be much worse. I am hoping that the councelling sessions will help me to accept how I feel on waking and then I will move on. I have read Clare Weekes books and it makes so much sense but I just dont seem to be able to accept....and I guess it will continue until I do.
This site really helps me, I dont know what I would do without it.
Thanks for caring and taking the time to reply.
Take care.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
12-05-10, 08:01
Dear Jo I haven't lost my job. I am still employed by D in the specialist music shop. I have been there for seven years part time. I might lose it if I was off sick for a long time as it is a small business and they would be forced to employ someone else.
Hello Jo
So sorry that you're feeling like this...the dreaded Blip Brigade catches up with us all at some point. I don't mean to make light of it as I know how traumatic and horrible it is, and I've just got over a bad period myself where some days I simply didn't want to wake up let alone get out of bed.
I think we sometimes make too much of a big deal when we feel better and therefore in my opinion it comes as a massive shock when we descend into a black hole of anxiety and/or depression. When I feel good I go with it but I know that round the corner there could be bad times. I don't see it as being negative though, just realistic, because life is unpredictable.
You have done very well going back to work and you shouldn't be at all hard on yourself. One thing to remember, hard as it is, is that bad times will pass. That is what I always hold on to: "This too shall pass..."
Mirtazapine can be augmented with other ADs - not sure if you're aware of that - so it may help to think of adding an SSRI eg, rather than rely on benzos which are much more of a temporary stop. The other option is to increase to the max dose of 45mg (not sure what you're on now...30mg?).
I personally would give yourself a bit more time before adding more meds and see how you get on with the diazepam.
I hope you feel better soon .... Remember that this too shall pass...
Heya Jo!!!
I am gald you went to the doctors as I know that lately things had gone a little awry for you. Im sorry that it is a little harder in the morning and lasting a little longer. Thats not so nice to deal with. Perhaps maybe you are getting more responsibilities at work and this is making you more anxious? Has anything changed at work at all?
I do think that if mirtazapine has worked for you then maybe hang on for a little longer. I don't know anything about diazepam because the doctor has never prescribed it for me but if it helps when all gets too much then thats good.
I feel the same as you about the reading, I have been reading books to help but until I accept that its a dirorder and not just me then I am not going to get anywhere! This site helps me through but its because there are people like you on here that are always so kind and supportive that keeps me coming back!
Take care xxxx
Hi, Ive been taking mirtazapine since the summer 2008. I noticed almost as soon as I went on it that I was starting to get more and more anxious. All of a sudden I would just be overwhelmed with the horrible feelings.
I managed to get through the last year of my degree during that period, with quite a few flare ups that nearly caused me to quit the course.
Since then I managed to get myself a job, but then after only 2 days I had to quit. My anxiety levels were through the roof and I just didnt feel like I could cope. Every minute of the day I spent in work I was watching the door and trying to stop myself from doing a runner!
Since then Ive been on a bit of a downward spiral. I started to avoid life and as a consequence my anxiety got so bad I wasnt able to cope. So the docs upped by dose to 45mg and put me on propranalol.
Ive spent the past 5 months with anxiety plaguing everything I try and do. I think I gave myself enough time to heal and get better, but every time I start to improve I get hit by another relapse.
So this brings me to the present day. My GP has decided that the mirtazapine is doing me good in terms of my mood, but maybe its not helping with my anxiety levels. So shes putting me on Seroxat to try and deal with the anxiety.
Ive heard a few times of mirtazapine being used as a bolt on anti depressant because its not of the same family as the main pills they prescribe. unfortunatly for me I have a bad reaction to citalopram and another pill I cannot take because of another illness I have, so im left with seroxat. Supposed to be a really good drug for helping your anxiety, but really hard to come off at the end.
Ive not started the seroxat yet, but when I do it'll be 45mg mirtazapine at night and 10mg seroxat in the mornings.
Wow im waffling! Hope that helps!
ElizabethJane
12-05-10, 15:27
Hi Vixxy yes I was originally put on mirtazapine as an add on to exisiting meds at that time which were dothiepin and lithium. Mirtazapine is an snri so works in a different way to the ssris. I'm a great believer in getting the right diagnosis usually from a psychiatrist. They have greater experience of psychiatric drugs than a GP. Other things that have been suggested in the past for me have been adding in a low dose of an anti psychotic such as risperidone. It really is up to you to decide and your psychiatrist to try something that is best for you.
Elizabeth-Jane....sorry I mis-read your post about the job!!! With regard to anti-phyotic drugs do they work immediately do you know or are they similiar to anti-depressants i.e. take a while to build up etc. My gp once gave me olanzapine and told me to take half of a 2.5mg tablet to see how it went, i only ever took it once as i was a bit scared to take it not knowing alot about them and how they work. Just wondered it might help with my anxiety? Jo.xx
Hi Vixxy,
Thanks for replying...was a great help, sorry you still feeling as you do, lets hope the seroxat helps you.
Well done for finishing your degree....what a nightmare you must of had with that and the anxiety.
Let us know how you go when you start taking the seroxat.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
12-05-10, 22:34
Hi jo I have been offered risperidone as another option but have never taken them. I imagine that they begin to work immediately but do their job of relieving anxiety but only in the lower doses. There are NMP members who take them so maybe they will come along and let you know how they find them? EJ
Well my "blip" is really lasting and effecting me big time. Had an awful day today...really felt back at square one and I just dont know why!!! How I got through the day I will never know..but somehow I did. I had no appetite at all today and just drank lucosade to keep me going!! Wish it would all just go away. Jo.
Jannie2948
14-05-10, 17:24
What a blooming nuisance, you've been like it for a few days now you poor thing. I can never drink anything like lucozade or those kind of drinks because there is too much caffeine in them for me and they make me feel awful. Do you ever take anything like Kalms or valerian to calm you down, sometimes they work for me.
Jo, I so hope you feel better soon.
Jannie x x
Thankyou Jannie for your kind words, I just cant stop crying since I've been home. I think I will try Kalms, wasnt sure if they would interfere with my mirtazipine, but am desperate now, so will give them a go.:weep:Jo.xx
Jannie2948
14-05-10, 17:51
I take them with citalopram, I know your tablet is different but I don't think they will do you any harm, and I'm sure you can't feel much worse than you already do. I do hope you start to feel better soon, I hate days like that and you've had your fair share lately.
Jannie x x
Hi Jo,
So sorry to see that you are having such a rotten time of things. I know your kind words to me have made a huge difference and hope that knowing that I care will help you.
I think you should go see your GP asap, tell them how awful it is and see what they suggest. As you know mirt wasnt enough for me and I have high hopes that I am now on the right road.
You have been an inspiration to me over the last few weeks, going back to work and always having a positive outlook. Dont give up or give in, remember how far you have come, you wont go all the way back to square one, no way.
love
fawn
xxxx
Hi. Im wondering if this constant rollercoaster of getting better and then crashing back to awful anxiety is a problem with mirtazapine. Ive been yoyoing since christmas.
I really hope you can calm yourself down, I know how awful, depressing and demoralising it is to be thinking youre past the worst, and then for the worst to happen again.
Im still waiting for the chemist to have the seroxat for me ><:
Ive found a few things that help. Art or just doodling. It really focuses my mind away from my anxiety and trying to do something that makes me happy each and everyday. Even if im having a shitty day with my anxiety I have to do something that makes me feel better, even if its only better for a few mins. At least when I look back at the day I can see I did something other than just be anxious!
My therapist told me to write a list down of everything that makes me happy, then when Im having a bad day I can look at that and pick something from it.
Maybe that'll help you too :)
jaded jean
14-05-10, 18:18
Hi Jo.
I am thinking of you with these crappy blips. I am just coming out of a 4 day one . I think I was lucky. I was on 30mg of Mirt but the anxiety broke through-I was only on it 4 months.So put on to cit now. day 34 and admittedly feel different this time. have just about finished diazepam -brave words but I have no back up meds in case I do get anxious.
I do feel for you . Keep looking forward. I like doing the Attitude of Grattitude thread.
Take care
Jeanxx
Hi Fawn,
Thankyou so much for your lovely kind words, they have helped me even though I am bawling my eyes out presently, it is just so hard at times to see that light at the end of the tunnell. I am really wondering about the mirt and its effectiveness, I am sure that when I got over the worst when I was on citalopram I never felt like this. If I dont pick up by Monday will make another appt and go back to see my Gp. Thanks hun, its so nice to know people care.
Jo.xx
Vixxy,
Thanks for your help....I am forcing myself to continue going to work even though it is hard at the moment but it is a distraction and as the day goes by it does get easier even though it does not ever feel it will first thing in the morning as I feel so rotten.
Jean, thanks for words of encouragement...I know you too have had a blip and I hope you are coming out the other side. Not nice at all. Take care. Jo.xx
Hello Jo,
Well I have been following this thread just so I knew how you were doing. I am sorry that these past few days have gotten worse. All I know is that you have helped me through some real hard times and I hope, with the help of these other lovely people on here we can help you. I agree with what other people have said that you have been so nice to me and its not nice to know that you are going through a rough patch. I really like the idea of writing down things that make you happy, I think vixxy said this, I like this idea. Sometimes I get so caught up in my depression and anxiety and ocd that I forget who I am. Sometimes watching a tv program or reading can remind me of it. But I know how dark it can get.
I think you need to be nice to yourself. Wipe those tears away, pour a nice glass of wine and watch something that you like. I am thinking of taking kalms with me on holiday so it will be interesting to know if they work for you.
Take care Jo,
Message or post anytime, we'll always be here!
xxxxx
Hi laura,
Thankyou for your kindness, I am overwhelmed by the messages, it is such a comfort to know that the friends on here I have made are here for me. I just feel a bit like I have hit rock bottom today and hopefully the tables will turn....we shall see, but thank goodness for nmp and you lovely people...you are truely keeping me going today.XXXX
Thats what we're here for!
xxxx
Well what a day I had yesterday...cant believe I let myself get so down about it all, I know there are people alot worse than me but it just all got to me. I know I should be grateful for the fact that I am back at work and getting out of bed every day when some people just cant do that.
I woke up this morning again with the usual horrible feelings but thought to myself I am going to beat this am not going to let it get at me, yesterday I had feelings that I would just really rather not be here than feel as I did yesterday but I just thought of my family and the impact it would have on them and then realised I was just being selfish, I think thats why I just couldn't stop blubbing!!!
Well I got up got on that treadmill, had to really push myself but did it and I feel a little better now. See how today goes...I have a day off today so the distraction will be harder but shall do my best. The trouble is it is so hard at times.
Thank goodness for you friends here and my loving wonderful family.
Jo.xx
Well after 2 good days I had a bad day again today!!! I felt total exhausture last night and after a really good nights sleep,woke up feeling really groggy and anxious as usual.
By 11am I had a type of migraine (I could only see half of things as the other half was flashing like silver colour), not nice. I have had these before and have been told it is a type of migraine. It lasted half hour then left me feeling washed out for the rest of the day...how I got through the day I'll never know as I had to base myself on the PC doing some work with another manager, but I did get through, so hopefully this evening I will feel better.
I am grateful for having had 2 good days and that in itself has given me a bit more confidence again. Couldn't eat much again today either but thats not a bad thing.
See what tommorow brings.
Jo.xx
Well today was another bad day....so wierd how to describe how you could feel like I did this morning and then by the afternoon totally normal again...its almost like there are two of me, one in the morning and then a different one in the afternoon!!! I just have to get up and get on with it, cos staying at home would just make it worse. I just hope as time passes it soon goes.
Jo.
Hi Jo,
I do hope that things are picking up for you, I am doing so well at the moment touch wood that it doesnt seem fair that you or anyone else should feel so bad.
Have you been to see your doctor about this?
Anyway just wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you.
love fawn
xxx
ElizabethJane
19-05-10, 07:55
Dear Fawn I'm so glad that you are feeling better. That is great news.
Hi Fawn,
Please dont think like that hun, you have had your awful moments and I am just so glad that you are feeling so well. I had a much better day today so I think of that of a bonus and just see what happens. Have decided if it does continue will have to go back and have a chat with my GP and see what he says. I am thinking of sugesting taking something along with mirt (maybe citalopram or seroxat) but just worry the side effects will effect me so bad I will then have to take time off work again and I dont really want to have to do that, but then in the long run if it makes me feel better it has got to be worth it. Hopefully I am improving again and wont need to go down that route, we shall see.
But your lovely post was so positive and am so pleased for you...may it continue hun.
Take care
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
19-05-10, 19:22
Hi Jo I'm sorry that you are having a rough time again. Sometimes it takes time to find the right combination of meds to make us feel well again. I know that if I present to Dr J or to my GP with a variety of symptoms it usually means more meds or a combination of meds. I'm probably on the maximum amount of lithium plus mirtazapine now. I was on dothiepin as well but thankfully I am now off them. Sometimes we need a combination of factors to help us become well again. In the past talking therapies have worked for me. At the moment I'm having hypnosis although I think only one more session. It has also helped me in the past to deal with just small parts of the day and reward yourself with something that you look foward to when you have dealt with that. More meds are not always the answer but they might help in the short term to help us get over a crisis. Take care. Have a chat with your GP/psychiatrist about it. EJ.
jaded jean
19-05-10, 20:12
Well today was another bad day....so wierd how to describe how you could feel like I did this morning and then by the afternoon totally normal again...its almost like there are two of me, one in the morning and then a different one in the afternoon!!! I just have to get up and get on with it, cos staying at home would just make it worse. I just hope as time passes it soon goes.
Jo.
Hi Jo.
Do you know that is me as well . I have actually taken to doing the housework afte dinner, and the washing nd anything that needs doing . I told my husband I am like a flippin vampire doing all my work late at night. Crazy eh?
Jean:roflmao:
EJ, Yes you are right, I am waiting for my sessions with the counceller to come up and am hoping that will help, it is difficult as I dont really think GP's totally understand the meds properly and that the best route is with a psychcatarist but not under one of those unfortunately. At least I am able to get myself into work and for that I am grateful as I dont want to take more time off and I do realise that work is definately a distraction and eventually I do start to feel "normal" again, its just the first part of the day it never feels any easier...its just a fight everyday and it does get to you at times.
Thanks for your advice.
Glad you doing o.k. JO.xx
Hi Jean,
Yes it is strange that we feel at our best in the late afternoons and evenings, how do you fill your days?? I am day off today and determined to just get on with it and do chores around the house as they so need doing....hopefully will improve as day goes on. Hope you are doing o.k. though???
Take care.
JO.xx
doktorjohn
21-05-10, 17:35
Yes, mornings are always the worst times. I can't get anything done at all until midday.
Especially now that I have a problem with benefits. I have to live on £52 a week for the next 8 months leading up to the appeal tribunal.
I already felt spaced out, now it's worse with the extra burden.
dj
Today was another day from hell....I felt horrible on waking as I always do and then the day just got worse, had no appetite, legs like jelly and just exhausted and I had a good nights sleep. I have made another appointment with my Gp but couldnt get in until Tuesday evening. Need to decide what is best to do?? Do I increase the mirtazipine to max dose of 45mg or do I ask to go onto another type or AD at the same time...such a hard one to call, I need to do something cos I can feel myself sinking back to how I was. Today reminded me of just how I felt before I had to go off work months ago...I really dont want to have to go off work again....I need that distraction but it is so hard at the moment. Just wish it would all go away and I could feel normal again!!!
Jo.xx
jaded jean
21-05-10, 19:44
Hi Jo.
Re what do I do in my day is.. I get up with a bit of mind chatter. cup of tea and cit. then an hour later have breakfast. In my nightclothes I take the dog down our allotment size garden rain or shine =I so dont care anymore. I watch Jeremy Kyle have my favourite coffee . get up walk around , talk to myself or the dog, clockwatch, text work colleagues, do little bits of house work.This anxiety is so cruel I feel like a faded mirror image of myself -its ok as I am having a shitty day-having re runs of childhood going thru my head -weird.
Back to you maybe the increase is what you need with mirt. I was never recommended that, I just suggested that as I was meno I asked if I could try cit and the doc said ok. Its awful you think you are doing so well and in 1 day you can feel back at square 1.
My thoughts are with you sweetie. hoping tomorrow will be better :hugs:
Jean
ElizabethJane
21-05-10, 22:28
Dear Jo I' m sure as the title of your post suggests this is 'just a blip' Just re reading your post makes me think that you need the expertise of a psychiatrist. They can do the expert tweaking of the meds which you need right now. I haven't always felt as well as I do now. When I was ill and struggling to get better. I would pretend that I was 'well' I hoped that one day I would indeed feel well. It happened but it took a very long time but I rehearsed the part. I have had a very naff day and had stomach cramps and bowel issues. This end of the day I feel ok. You will get better Jo it is just that you need the right treatment that is all. EJ.
Hi EJ, Thanks for advice, the trouble is the time it will take if I ask to be refferred to a pcychiatrist....that is when it is so frustrating when GP's do not have the expertise to prescrible the meds. A while ago when on citalopram my gp prescribed me olanzapine and told me to take half of a 2.5mg tab every day, when I go see him on Tuesday I shall ask if I try this will it help?? It is so wierd as some days I am really good and the anxiety disappears early other days it lingers right through the day and thats when I find everything so hard to do, you just feel like giving up, can find no peace if you know what I mean. I am also wondering if I need to increase the mirtazipine to 45mg (do you know if this is the max you can take?) , I worry about the side effects of the increase then too, as I dont want to have to take time from work again. I need to get better though, I realise that so will have to do what I have to do.
Huge dilemas we face at times. It does help to talk to people that take the meds though.
Sorry you had a bad day re bowels etc...glad you were ok in the end.
Take care and thanks for caring.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
22-05-10, 13:52
Dear Jo I believe that the maximum dose for mirtazapine in this country is 45mg. There seem to be reports of people on higher doses but not usually in the UK. If your GP has prescribed olanzapine as an anti anxiety drug (off label use then you could try it) Everybodys reactions to drugs are different and you might find that it suits you. I believe that drugs can help in anxiety and depression even severe resistant depression like mine. It doesn't mean that I feel 100% all day. I have very few days like that. I have my friends and people at work whom I can talk to. Don't give up there is way out of this nasty illness. I am sure that your GP will be able to help you. EJ.
Hi EJ,
My GP prescribed olanzapine when I was on citalopram, I only ever took one so not sure if I can take with mirtazipine without asking him. He asked me if I felt edgy etc at the time and said that it may help, I just wondered if it might help with the anxiety as it is staying with me throughout the day at the moment and I am getting quite desperate. I find myself going through the motions but feeling absolutely awful, everything feels horrible, its like your mind gets taken over by awful thoughts.
I have an appointment Tuesday eve....I know he listen to what I suggest and this site helps me with that...I am thinking of asking about sertraline as an add on to the mirtazipine, have you ever taken that??
Jo.xx
jaded jean
22-05-10, 21:18
Hi Jo.
I do hope you can get something sorted out when you go to see your doctor.Your posts when I first joined gave me hope and encouragement.
Take care
Jean:flowers:
ElizabethJane
22-05-10, 22:47
Hi Jo your GP would know that he had already prescribed olanzapine for you when he prescribed the mirtazapine so the two together should be ok. You are wise to wait though. I have been offered risperidone in the past from Dr J but I have never actually taken and anti psychotic for anxiety but there are folk on this site that do. I have some diazepan for emergencies but I haven't needed to take any yet this year. I have had my own crisises over the years and wondered what would happen and what would be prescribed for me. I have been on mirtazapine and dothiepin and lithium as well so I know that combos can work. It does not mean that you will be on them forever probably until you get over this blip. I have never been prescribed setraline but again there are plenty here who have. I have had seroxat and duloxetine and neither of these suited me at all. There are many options available in terms of drug treatment. Are you coping at work/ home at the moment? When I have been at my lowest I have been unable to cope at all with day to day living and least of all going to work. You can always send me a pm but I strongly feel if you are still feeling bad on Monday you might give your surgery a call.
Hi EJ,
I am just coping at home and work because I make myself, when at work I am overwhelmed by these awful feelings but i just get through somehow because I just dont want to be stuck at home as I feel this would be worse....so I go in and just get on with it, its hard but I manage and as the day goes by I start to feel better so I think i need to carry on going to work as long as I can.
What type of med is lithium? Is it used to treat depression or anxiety?
I went out with hubby last night to a friends 60th and had a lovely time and felt absolutely normal??? Its almost like there is a Jo during the day and a different Jo in the late afternoon/eves?? Cant get my head around any of it. Something then happens when I sleep for me to start all over again like I do.
I know it can be conquered just need the right help and then I should come through it...I hope so anyhow.
Hope you are having a good day...its so beautiful today.
Take care and thanks for taking time to talk to me, you are really helping me at the moment EJ.
Jo.xx
Hi Jo,
I just wanted to let you know that I am doing really well, I am almost afraid to write that as if I will doom myself but its true. I am on 20mg seroxat in the morning and 30mg mirt at night now and it seems to be working for me. The anxiety is so much less, now I just have to work on the negative thoughts. Please dont be afraid to try add ons to mirt, I know I wouldnt feel this good if I hadnt insisted that I deserved better.
Fingers crossed I will keep improving and have the right mind set for any set backs, we all know that they happen sometimes.
Take care and keep your chin up
love
fawn
xxxxx
Hi Fawn,
I am seeing my GP on Tuesday so will see what he says....I am not under a physcatarist so not sure how much my GP knows about adding on meds as I think that this probably comes under a physcatarist...do you see one? I know I need something else but dont know wether to up to mirtazipine 45mg or try something else?? Such a dilemma...just hope that I get some joy as I cannot go on feeling like this, its just so wierd...I wake up like it and spend the morning and sometimes into the afternoon shaking it off then I just turn into a "normal" person again??? So very odd!!!
Thanks for posting and caring...I am just so glad that you are doing o.k. and I really hope it stays that way for you hun....and I sincerely mean that, you deserve it.
Take care...will let you know how I get on.
JO.xx
Hi Jo,
Yes I do see a psychiatrist, my GP was hopeless. I had to go privately as I would still be waiting to see a psych on the NHS. It seemed like a lot of money that we didn't really have but now I am seeing the benefits it is money well spent. What is life really worth if every minute of every day is a battle?
Take care babe.
fawn
xxxx
Hi Fawn,
I know everyone is different but do you think that if I had an add on to mirtazipine (say seroxat) would I still be able to work whilst the meds are kicking in??? I dont really want to go back on citalopram as I came off them when they didnt work as effective for me before I went on mirtazipine. I am not sure if my GP will agree to an add on so will have to wait and see what he says but I am going to share with him what I have read on here.
How are you on seroxat? I dont know alot about it and wondered if it is effective for anxiety??? What side effects did you experience? Hope you dont mind me asking all this just wanted a bit of info before I go tommorow eve. Thanks. JO.xx
Hi Jo,
I had almost no side effects going on to the seroxat, I know it is supposed to be extremely effective against panic. I felt the same as always just a gradual lifting of the anxiety. I was on seroxat many, many years ago before all the whoha about it and it saved my life. I know it doesnt work for everyone but it did and is for me.
I take the mirt at night cos if helps me sleep and the seroxat in the morning. Touch wood it is working for me and I have made some big strides in the last few weeks.
Hope you get the help you deserve.
love fawn
xxxx
Well went to see my Gp today and asked about an add on srri to the mirtazipine but he was against doing this so asked about about pregabalin and he said he would happily prescribe them to see if they will help with the anxiety. I have 50mg to take one daily for one week then 2 daily for a week then 3 daily for a week and continue with that and see how I go. He told me to stop taking the propananol too.
Fingers crossed this will help with the anxiety, he did say another patient takes it for anxiety and even though it is a very expensive drug was happy to give it to me.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
25-05-10, 22:47
Hi jo I was wondering whether you would post today. Did your GP say why he was against an add for the mirtazapine? I know nothing about pregabalin but
I know others on here who have been prescribed it on here so you should get some feedback from other people who are on it. Is it a natural product? I'm completely ignorant and do not know what is in it. I know you asked me what lithium was? It is a natural occuring salt and in the body has great success in levelling mood. It is primarily used in bi-polar illness but also in severe reccurrent depression such as my diagnosis. It is not fully understood how it works and has many potential side effects so the patient needs to have regualer blood tests to monitor the level of lithium in the blood. Heres hoping you have some respite soon Jo. EJxxxx.
Hi EJ, No he didnt say why other than interactions and that is was something he just didnt do....I told him I knew that it was perfectly safe etc as I know there are a number of people on here with add ons to their meds. I actually think this is what the difference is and the advantage of being under a physcatarist as they specialise in the meds whreas GP's dont. I didnt know anything about pregabalin either i searched it on line and it is for generilized anxiety disorder which is what I think I suffer with and it is surposed to be effective....can only give it a try....let you know how it goes. Take care and hope you ae keeping well EJ. JO.xx
Well after a really good week and deciding not to take the pregabalin I am back to where I started. Woke up yesterday and felt a little anxious then this morning full blown anxiety all day, have not managed to eat a thing today!!!! I am so confused how I can be feeling so well for a week and then suddenly back where I started??? Have a week off next week, so hoping to last out until then and then try the new meds, scared to take it at the moment in case I suffer the dizziness described on the threads.
I am really starting to wonder if it is hormonal??? I shall be 47 in October and seem to be suffering in the week running up to my monthly period, but then this last month it just carried on until last week. I surpose I should be grateful to have had a week of "normality" but somehow it just doesn't make you feel that way!!!
Jo.xx
doktorjohn
01-06-10, 19:26
Sometimes I feel great on mirtazapine, almost mania I would say. I love these times but I still get freaked out when I think things are going bad.
I am living on £52 a week until an appeal and like many people in my shoes, it's scary. If I lose I'm broke. :ohmy:
If I win I'll be ok until the next crisis. Apart from the weird dreams, mirtazapine is the best one I've had and I'm sticking with it. :yesyes:
dj
Hi Jo
Reading your posts was like reading my own story. Had a much better week last week and woke on Sunday with the dreaded anxiety - I always feel worse in the morning too and normal in the evening. Doctor recently changed me over from Cipralex to Sertraline so I'm giving that a go - I too also have Diazepam for when the attacks are bad and am on the waiting list for CBT.
Keep posting and keep your chin up, remember that you do have good evenings and it wont last forever. I do and its what keeps me going and thank you for your posts, its reassuring to know that I'm not the only person who is going through this.
Jo
Hi Jo,
Thanks for replying.....hope you feel better soon too!!! Horrible isnt it?
Take care.
JO.xx
Hi Jo
Yep, it feels never ending. Hope you have an ok day. I'm telling myself as I type this that this feeling wont last - mornings are always the worst!
You take care too.
Jo
Hi everyone, can i relate to you all!or what. it sounds so much like my life at the moment. I originally felt awful in jan of this year and went to my gp who prescribed cit 20mg to begin with. Well these just kept me awake for six days straight and i just couldnt function. I was having to take time off from work and was eventually reffered to a physchiatrist at the end of feb. He diagnosed severe depression with high anxiety and started me on 15mg mirtazapine. My low moods started to become managable but after 7 weeks of being on this dose i started to have horrible intrusive thoughts so went to see the gp again who agreed to increase the dosage to 30mg. i Stayed on this dose and the intrusive thoughts started to dissapate but towards the end of last week i started feeling down and anxious abiut really silly things even picking my children up from school. I saw the gp again on tue this week and she wants me to try 45mg mirtazapine for the next three to four weeks. I started on tue evening so will post about how things are going.
It is such an emotional rollercoaster and i can agree with all the things that i being said in this thread. Just to have a normal life again would be great. I hope all those on this forum find something that works for them and can get back to their lives again.
God bless all of us may tommorow bring what we dream of today.
Hi pmrob1
Good luck with the increased doseage. I keep a diary of how I feel and the good things that happened during the day - although it doesn't seem like it at the time, it occupies your mind for a bit and hopefully you will gradually see an improvement in your mood when you read it back in a few weeks.
Keep us posted.
Jo
well day 2 over on 45 mg. Not a bad day. Anxiety a lot less and the feeling down a bit better. Have just finished nights this morning so hard to gauge where i am at the moment. Well the sun is out so will get out and soak up some rays and later when its a bit cooler get out on my bike for an hour. hope you peeps are doing ok.:yesyes:
Hi pmrob1,
Glad that the increase seems to be helping you...have you experienced any side effects with the increase?? When I went up from 15-30 I didnt really have too much in the way of side effects just felt a little drowsy on waking the first couple of days but then I still get odd days like that now.
Keep posting let us know how you go.
Enjoy the sunshine...my day off today so i too will be sitting out there in a little while.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi JT,
Not experienced any side effects of the dosage increase. Am enjoying the sunshine and having a good day so far, hope your enjoying your day off.:shades:
Hi pmrob1
Well that's a positive! Remember that. Wishing you another good day.
JoRo
Well day 3 over and another good day. Not too much anxiety and little low mood. Day 4 has got off to a bad start though. My partner has a hard time dealing with the way i am and we fall out regularly over petty things. I sometimes wish we were not together but dont wont to make such a huge decision whilst i am not 100% myself. Just keeping fighting my corner. hope you other peeps are doing ok :wacko:
Hi pmrob
Don't make any decisions yet, as hard as it is for us to cope with these feelings its hard for our loved ones to see us go through it and to understand. Try not to dwell on it and remember the good times you've had together and that you will be 100% again.
My husband and family are fantastic but then I feel guilty for being like I am and the pressure / worry that it puts on them - so you cant win either way when you feel anxious!!
Just take it in your stride and get through another day - one nearer to feeling 100%.
JoRo
Thanks JoRo for the encouragement. Its been a tough day so far but looking forward to tommorow as its a new day and things will inprove. I guess we are all looking for that miracle cure but it dont exist so just keep plugging away. All the best to you all. Will post again tommorrow :doh:
Well day 4 finished. Eventually my low mood lifted and not too much anxiety. Day 5 has begun and i will be out for a bike ride in a few minutes. Looking forward to going out tomorrow with my friend and seeing my children on wed afternoon. Weather not too brilliant but hopefully will inprove. How are you all doing. Drop in with a reply speak soon:shades:
Hi pmrob,
I agree with JoRo dont make any snap decisions when feeling like you do you may only regret it later.
I too have a really understanding partner and feel so bad for the worry etc I put him and my family through but just cant help it....there is light at the end of the tunnel we just have to get there!!!
Take care
JO.xx
Hi pmrob and JT69
I've had a blooming dreadful morning (well I think I have!). Woke early and have felt anxious and panicky for hours, tight chest, sweats, de-personalisation, heart racing, lack of concentration and constant yawning. Cant work out if ive had a panic attack or just a severe anxiety attack. Have carried on with housework regardless and have tried to relax with reading and listening to ipod. Feel better now just a bit edgy. So worried that I'll feel like this at work tomorrow and wont be able to cope :( BUT must remember I have felt like that at work before (if not worse!) and I coped, no-one noticed and I survived :)
Well today's another day nearer to feeling better.
Wishing you both a good day
JoRo
Hi JoRo,
Sorry you had such a dreadful morning.....unfortunately for me most of my morning are absolutely dreadful at the moment with anxiety. I can so relate to how you just get on with it and then it diminishes doesnt it?
I have been continuing going to work and feeling absolutely awful inside and cannot even eat....but no-one has noticed and like you say have coped...and so will you. It is like a cycle you feel like it and then worry that you wont cope, but you will and eventually it will go.
I have just started some new medication as I have a week off and didnt want to risk taking it whilst at work as a side effect can be dizzyness. It is an add on to take along side the mirtazipine so am hoping that it will help me.
Hope that the rest of your day is good....and tommorow you will be fine.
Take care.
JO.xx
Hi Jo
I've not eaten properly for about 6 weeks and have lost 2 stone! On week 3 of my new meds and have had a couple of really normal days which doc said is a good sign. Mornings are always worse for me too but normally I can feel the anx lifting but today it just wont leave. Have just been to Sainsburys, did shopping in a trance like state but I did it!
Thanks for your reassurance, I know what you say is true but isn't it hard work!
Good luck with new meds, will keep my fingers crossed for you and please let us know how you get on.
JoRo
Hi JoRo,
OMG!!! 2 stone is alot. Have you managed to work right through changing over meds??? Do you work full-time? I admire you I really do...just getting on with it...thats what I do to. People wouldn't believe we could feeling like we do but you just have to dont you and like you say its damm hard work and sometimes I just sit and bawl my eyes out after I have pushed myself through something and come out the other side!!!
I can so relate to your shopping trip, its wierd but its like you are just going through the motions....but you do it somehow!!!
Hope you have a good day tommorow!!
Jo.xx
hi jt and joro. Hope things have improved for you both as the day has progressed.Whats the add on you have been prescribed JT? I feel quite lucky that my anxiety is much reduced and its the low moods that are getting me at the moment. I have been back at work for 3 months and it is so difficult sometimes and its like you say you have to push yourself through it. Somebody once said life is never easy and i guess they were spot on. good luck to you both will sign off later in the evening look after yourselves.:wacko:
Hi pnrob,
My gp prescribed pregbalin which someone kindly recommended on here, I was lucky as it as expensive drug and alot of gp's wont prescribe it, thankfully I have a good relationship with mine and he knows what bad times I have had. I am hoping it works....will keep you informed.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Well Day5 is nearly at a close, thankfully not too much anxiety just a lot of low mood today. I believe that this is more due to the fact of the poor situation between my partner and myself than actually the depression but who knows. Things will come out in the wash as they say. Looking forward to my day out with my friend tomorrow and to relax and enjoy myself. Will check in with you all tomorrow. May tomorrow be better for us all than today.:yesyes:
Hi Jo & pmrob
I work in Canary Wharf 4 days a week (have Wednesday's off). I took a couple of days off, well worked from home, when I started new meds but apart from working myself up about taking them didn't really feel any different to what I felt/feel now. Memory is shot so I might be wrong! Off to work in a mo, have jelly legs and feel shakey but life goes on and so must we!
Wishing you both a steady day.
JoRo
Hi Jo & pmrob
Well I'm back from work and survived! It wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it would be. Will chalk this one up as a good day!
Hope you both are feeling ok.
JoRo
Hi JoRo.
Told you that you would be o.k.....am really glad for you.:) I so know the jelly legs and shaky feelings, horrible what we have to put up with isnt it?? Still we have to keep going and know that there is light at the end of the tunnel and we will get there eventually!!!
I had a pretty good day today!!! Have a week off so doing bits at around the home. I find I just have to take one day at a time at the moment. I always wake up feeling dreadful sometimes it disappears quickly other days it just lingers for most of the day!! Today I am grateful for having a good day!!
Take care.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
07-06-10, 19:16
Dear JoRo my hubs works at Canary Wharf too and he is in a high pressured enviroment with lots of foreign travel. I have hardly seen him these past few months as it has been global Ryadh and Mexico and the US. I dont sleep at all well when he is away and get up to all sorts of things such as sleep walking and seeing things and the like! I am on 45mg mirtazapine and 1,000mg lithium. I am doing so well at the moment that I would like to reduce to 30mg. Then at least I have somewhere to go if I have the inevitable relapse. I have coped so well with lots of things lately. It has been stressfull and apart from my sleeping I could not wish for more. Do you work for one of the large financial bodies in Canary Wharf?
Hi jt and joro. Pleased things have gone ok for you today. It is a struggle sometimes even doing the simplest things but i am like you and have to live one day at a time at the moment. Things with partner still remain unresolved and up until having to come back home this afternoon everything went great with my day out with my friend, but on the way home experienced some anxiety which allowed intrusive thoughts back into my mind, luckily this only lasted an hour or so and tried to use the techniques i have been taught in cbt. Guess they must helped some not always sure wether nits that or the medication thats doing the best lol. A full day of painting doors tomorrow oh the joys of being a home owner. Hope you two have a good day tomorrow will sign in again in the evening.:wacko:
Hey Jo & pmrob
Jo - how you getting on with the new meds?
pmrob - carry on and see what happens before you make any decisions - enjoy ur painting!
I also take things one day at a time (sometimes one hour at a time depending on how I feel) and also congratulate myself for doing it!
Wishing both another calm day!
JoRo
Hey pmrob and joro....(sounds so funny all these abreviations and all these Jo's lol!!!)
The new meds seem to be helping already, I have been lucky so far in not experiencing any side effects other than a little more tired after taking them. This morning I actually woke up anxiety free and that has not happened for weeks!!!
I am not counting any chickens yet as in the past I have shouted about how well I am feeling, this time I just dare not temp fate, but will say that I feel blessed to wake up "normal".
I hope that you both have a good day...painting doors or whatever you are doing.
Pmrob, I guess your anxiety was the thought of coming home after having a nice day out. I still think you need to give it more time before making any decisions. You are not in the right frame of mind to decide on anything at the moment, so even though it may be hard try to hang on a bit longer.
Take care both of you.
Jo.xx
Hey Jo - great news - I too have had another OK day but like you have am being very cautious about it as have had a relapse before, although it wasn't as bad as the first and second bouts of anxiety and that was on my old meds.
Wishing you well for tomorrow.
Jo
ElizabethJane
Tried to PM my reply but your inbox is full! Popular lady eh!
Clear some space and I'll tell you about Canary Wharf!
JoRo
ElizabethJane
08-06-10, 19:06
Will do!!
Hi Everyone
Just read all your posts, can relate to all of it, I am back at work, had a week off for hols, Jo, really enjoyed it once i relaxed! came back with the joys of summers, more confidence in myself. Gone back to work today, hardly no jitters, but feel so tearful this evening and cant understand why, when i was at work today it all seemed like a bad dream, the breakdowns, the anxiety etc.. b ut i suppose like you all say ONE DAY at a time, just wish i could shake this low mood.
Jo, really pleased for you, to wake up with no anxiety is great news!!! i know what u mean, its like walking on egg shells, till the good days turn into good weeks, months etc..
Hope you all have a good evening
take care lynne x
Hi Lynne
Just remember you had a GOOD DAY! Focus on that and not how you feel now and dont beat yourself up for feeling low at the mo, this dreadful illness takes time to leave us and as horrid as the blips are they will pass.
Take care
JoRo
Hello Lynne,
Glad you enjoyed your break....it would of done you good. Been wondering about you and glad you posted.
Sorry you felt so tearful last night...shame after having such a good day at work, I think it is just all you are going through and you will get ups and downs. The ups will become more as time goes by. Remember we are all here to support you so keep letting us know how you are hun.
I really hope today is a good day for you.
JO.xx
Hello Everyone
I've been on mirtazapine for 10 days and feel completely drugged. I'm hoping that soon I may start to feel better. Although I now realise that I've been depressed for most of my life, it's the first time I've taken anti-depressants - decided there's nothing to lose. I'm full of admiration for your doggedness, perserverance and courage. I'm not sure that I have enough of any of those qualities even though I'm sure that many of you have been through much worse than I'm going through. Have any of you benefitted from CBT? I'm reading through a book about it but can't imagine being able to rid myself of 'negative thought patterns'. Maybe that's just because I don't have enough energy at the moment though - I don't know...
Love to all of you who have shared your lives over these posts.
Pam
Hi Pammie,
What dose are you currently taking?? I felt drugged when I first started taking it...was pretty hard to deal with but it does pass. I sometimes still wake up feeling a little almost like hung-over but havent drank the night before if you know what I mean.
I have benefited from the mirtazipine though, I sleep well now. In terms of perseverance what choice do we have?? I know for me some days I have really wanted to give it all up but then have asked myself "to do what???" there is only one way out drastic as that may sound, but then that is selfish I tell myself....to the people that care about you!! That brings me back down to earth!!!
I am waiting for my councelling/cbt sessions to come up at my GP's surgery...apparantly I get 6 sessions, am taking anything that I think may help.
Anyhow back to you, persevere with the mirtazipine, you will start to lose the side effects and the drug will settle down and then you will feel the benefit.
Keep posting, there are a few of us on mirtazipine that can support you.
Hope you feel better soon hun.
JO.xx
Hello JT and JORO and any other peeps reading this thread. Didnt post last night as a few things gone awry. Firstly the decision about wether to stay with my partner has been taken out of my hands. My partner told me last night that she is leaving and has been looking at a new house. This has made my choices a lot more restricted. I suppose this is for the best although it doesnt feel like it at the moment. We have had to fight our ex partners for the last six years and this has completely drained us both mentally and it has left us not being able to talk or communicate with each other which then escalates into a full blown argument. Its no good for me my partner or our 4 children. So perhaps this will give me a chance to sort things out for myself once and for all. The only problem is she cannot move out for 8 weeks due to having to get references etc. this is making things so difficult i dont know if i am coming or going. I guess the most scary thing is being on my own again for the first time in 17 years.
I am quite anxious at the moment which is no surprise but it even manifested itself whilst doing some training at work. I was doing confined space training and had to go into a 3 storey room that was entirely blacked out with sirens and fire alarms going off. I just couldnt go further than the entrance before having a panic attack. Needless to say when i explained things to the trainer he was quite sympathetic and said to go back in one or two years time and try again. Well enough of my complaining although its nice to get things off your chest on here. As the doc says "keep taking the medication". hopefully onwards and upwards:doh:
PMROB
I'm so very sorry that things haven't worked out for you and your partner. I'm not really sure what to say but my thoughts are with you and dont be too hard on yourself. Take care and keep posting - we will all be here to support you.
JoRo
Jo - how's it going today with the new meds?
I've had an odd day, bouts of mind chatter / depersonalisation and a racing heart but I'm sure its not as bad as before that or I'm coping better either way a positive, if only a small one.
JoRo
ElizabethJane
09-06-10, 21:10
Hi not sure if I belong on this thread anymore? I still want to go down to 30mg but I need to wait until I see my GP next week and then possibly arrange an appointment with Dr J my psych. My reasoning is to drop down whilst I feel relatively well and then if I become ill again the docs will have somewhere to go with my meds. I think that relapse is inevitable and that is not being fatalistic just realistic. To those of you just starting out on mirtazapine I would say hang on in there as it does get better it really does. I am facing a fairly stressful time with my boss away so more responsibility at work plus hubs and son away tonight. I'm wanting to lose some weight doubly difficult with both the lithium and mirtazapine. I wish you all well and hope that you get some decent sleep tonight.
Will stick with it Jo, thanks for your support. To pmrob1 - hope you get a decent sleep, I'm really sorry that things haven't worked out with your partner. Rooting for you.
Do you mind me asking what you mean by 'mind chatter' JoRo?
ElizabethJane
09-06-10, 22:08
:welcome:Hi Pammie and welcome to nmp if people haven't done that already.There are lots of anti ds out there if mirtazapine does not suit. It is not easy changing from one to another. For me withdrawing from mirtazapine was dreadful and I have done it twice. Going back on them was fine and I didn't have the accompaning side effects. To PMrobi sorry things haven't worked out with you and your partner. Seventeen years is a long time to be with someone. If you are sure that you have come to the end of the relationship maybe it is the right thing to split up?. I have been married for twenty one years and we definitely have our ups and downs. Will your children stay with your partner? To JoRo: Depersonalisation is common at the beginning of mirtazapine treatment. There are various 'grounding' techniques that you can use which will help. Hi Jo hope the Pregablin treatment is helping. I shall have to read up on it. I'm guessing that mind chatter is when stuff apears in your mind phrases and conversation and you can't shut it up.
Morning all
ElizabethJane - I high-jacked this thread too but Jo (JT69) is great and supportive and I am sure the more the merrier! I'm not taking mirtazapine. I have recently swapped from cipralex to sertraline (4 weeks in) and have good days and not so good days. At the mo suffering with heart palps, I seem to jump from one sympton to another!!
Pammie - mind chatter = my brain is constantly whirring with thoughts from the moment I open my eyes in the morning, mostly about how I feel and what ifs and sometimes songs and phrases. The trick is to catch yourself when the thoughts creep in and try and think of something else - it can be quite exhausting at times and is always worse in the morning.
Wishing you all a calmer settled day.
JoRo
Hi pmrob1,
So sorry about your break-up....hope that it all turns out for the best for you. Dont really know what to say to you other than feel free to vent on here as this is what this site is for...get it all off your chest if you need to.
Hardly suprising you suffered from extra anxiety at a time like this.
Take care and let us know how you get on.
Jo.xx
Hi Joro,
Mixed days with the meds!!! Initially I started the week feeling quite well and pretty much anxiety free especially Tuesday. Yesterday i felt spaced out and wierd and last night felt a bit panicky...I think then it was inevitable I woke up totally feeling absolute crap today!!! Anxiety just general as per normal, just hoping the meds kick in properly soon. 100mg is a low dose as I read you need to take at least 150mg for GAD. I will increase as soon as I think the side effects have eased a little as I cannot rush this and end up with horrendous dizzyness etc. I still am going to persevere with the new meds.
Hope everyone has a good day.
Jo.xx
Hi Elizabeth-Jane,
I think you are totally doing the right thing by reducing down when you feel well again....like you say you then have an option to increase should you relapse again....I hope you dont I really do but we have to keep our options open dont we? I used to do this when I took citalopram I mostly took 20mg but when feeling well dropped to 10mg and often had to go up to 30mg when I had bad spells....this enabled me to continue doing my daily routine without too much bother, with the help of diazepam from time to time.
I really sincerely wish you well..I know you have been through it and you deserve some resbite from these awful things we go through.
Take care and please dont feel you dont belong just cos you feel well...it helps the rest of us realise that there is light at the end of the tunnell.
Jo.xx
Morning everyone
Very up and down day yesterday but I survived another day!
Hope everyone is ok and here's to another day - whatever it may bring.
JoRo
Morning Joro,
Me too had a very up and down day yesterday!!! As always as the day wore on it got easier and I felt able to eat and relax more...the mornings are the worst for me. Again today I feel terriable, just been on my treadmill, had to force it as my legs feel jelly like and am just anxious like hell!!! Think it may be cos we are out tonight for a meal and even though I really want to go something happens inside to kick off the fear!!! Not sure if it will be safe to have a glass of wine either with these meds....was o.k. the odd one when just on mirtazipine but with these others in combination....I just dont know!!!
Anyhow I hope you have a better day today hun.:)
Take care
Jo.xx
Hi JT and JORO and any other peeps, well what a crap few days. Todays has been the worse plenty of feeling crap and very anxious. first intrusive thought for weeks, putting it down to not sleeping properly at the moment and the stress of the break up. Hopefully things will start to settle better once my partner has moved out its a very tense atmosphere at the moment. Just got to keep going and believing things will come right eventually. Hope your all ok at the moment and your anxiety is on the wane. will try and get back later on off to see my sister and nephew and niece for tea. Have a good night eveyone:wacko:
Hi Jo
Much better day today - decided to enjoy it and not worry what tomorrow will bring.......
I'm with you on the rotten mornings and not eating and relaxing until the evening - why is that? You'd think after having a nights sleep your brain would be rested and calm!
Enjoy your meal tonight.
JoRo
Hi pmrob1
Even if you didn't suffer with anxiety you would be feeling it now with the stress of the break-up, its only natural. Keep your chin up and remember there is light at the end of this dark, long and winding tunnel. Have a good evening with your family.
JoRo
Hi Joro..
Had a lovely meal and felt perfectly normal but this morning I wake up and feel horrible again!!! Just wish I could wake up and feel o.k.
Do you feel like it every morning and exactly how do you feel??? Are you like me whereas sometimes it passes by lunch time and other times lingers throughout the day??
Got to get to the bottom of all this....its awful!!!
Hope you have a good day today.
Take care.
JO.xx
Morning Jo
Yep most mornings are the same. Wake up about 5.30 and have to rush to the loo with an upset stomach. Mind is whirring with worries about the day / future and how I'm going to cope. I feel like my whole body is trembling and sometimes I'm sweating. Depersonalisation, jelly legs, foggy head and pounding heart also feature regulary but not every day and dont tend to last.
The feelings can leave me within a couple of hours or last the whole day - it can be any day of the week so not related to work or being at home. Can sometimes eat lunch and othertimes cant eat until about 6pm. When it lasts into the evening I take a Diazepan - thankfully this hasnt happened for a couple of weeks, which Im taking as a positive sign.
Have decided to accept all of this, I understand why the physical symtons are there (thanks to this site!) and take one day/hour at a time. Why I suffer with GAD? Well who knows - I do and I have to learn to live with it and make the most of the good times, carry on taking the pills and wait for the CBT.
Its the waiting which is the hardest part tho! Feel like I'm wishing my life away sometimes.
Wishing you a calm day.
JoRo
Hi Joro,
Which meds are you taking hun??? I know its not mirtazipine but cannot remember which one you take.
I so relate to the above....horrible isn't it?? I am the same as you, sometimes I can eat lunch other times its dinner before I eat anything! Trouble is I dont really lose any weight either thanks to the blooming mirtazipine!!
I too am waiting for concelling/cbt....you do just seem to wish your life away!! It has been weeks since I felt normal...Tuesday I had a glimmer of hope and had a pretty good day but just been down-hill since!!
Increased my new meds last night so hopefully after a week I should notice a difference!!
Hope you have a good day hun.
Jo.xx
Hi pmrob1,
Hope you feeling o.k today...understandable to be feeling anxiety after what you are going through...even the people who dont normally suffer would under those circumstances.
I agree that when your partner moves out etc you should settle again and get back to some normality.
I hope you feel better soon.
Have a good day!!!:) Jo.xx
Hi Jo
I'm having an anxious day today, very pre-occupied with how I feel but trying hard to keep positive and busy - my house has never been so clean and tidy!!
I am taking 100mg Sertraline in the morning. Remember Tuesday was a good day and so you do get them, don't loose sight of that. I had a good day yesterday and that's keeping me going today and tomorrow is another day nearer to feeling well again.
Are you going back to work on Monday?
JoRo
Hi JoRo,
Yes back to work Monday!! Not looking forward to it but think it will help with the recovery process!!
I am a manager in retail so have quite a stressful job...but no-one knows what I go through or how I feel...we hide it well....thankfully!! The last thing I would need is people knowing and looking at me in a different way etc.
We are out round friends tonight...so hopefully the anxiety will go, but kinda feel down today too!!
Jo.xx
Morning Jo
How was your evening?
Yep your right about going to work, as hard as it is sometimes to get there, definitely keeps your mind occupied and yes we do hide things very well, I'd be horrified if my colleagues knew how I felt!
I'm going to try and keep myself occupied today as the husband is at golf again! Shame the sun isn't shining tho.
JoRo
Hi JoRo,
Had a lovely evening...different person as to the day!!! So wierd!!! I got a pile of ironing today!! Yuk!! Feel crap again this morning...didnt help England drawing!!! Did you watch it??? Work tommorow and wierdly in a way am looking forward to the distraction that I hope it will bring...wishing you a good day!!!
JO.xx
Hiya Jo
Glad you had a good evening. The football was on (for the husband) but I was reading and on Facebook so not paying much attention. Did laugh at Beckhams face tho when USA scored - it was priceless!
I've had quite a relaxed day - bit of mind chatter but can cope with that. I'm saving my ironing for my day off on Weds, that will keep me busy!
I'm sure work will help, it does for me.
Good luck for tomorrow, keep me posted.
JoRo
Hi JoRo and Jt69 hope everything is getting better for you both. How you doing with the pregabalin JT and the setraline Jo ro. Am still taking my 45mg mirt religously and have to see the doc in one weeks time and i am supposed to tell her how i am coping on the new dosage but a bit hard to say with the current situation. I dont think its really hit home yet but it will do when my partner leaves as it will be the first time in 17 years i will have been on my own. Now that does scare me a lot. I will try and take up some more hobbies besides my swimming and cycling and try and get out and meet people. It good knowing that there are other people who are on this site who encourage and help other people.I hope you both have good weeks and will sign back in tomorrow after my first shift back after nine days. :huh:
Hi pmrob,
Jury still out on the pregabalin...early days....but been an awful day suffering with jelly legs, thumping heart and the lot!!! 1st day back after week off pehaps thats why?? Going GP's again if no improvement over the next week!!!
You will be all over the place with your feelings whilst you go through your current situation so try and hang in there and hopefully things will improve when you get it all sorted.
Hope shift went o.k for you.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi Jo and pmrob
Jo - I felt like that last Monday when I went back to work after a week off with my son for half term. I felt so wobbly that I nearly didn't go. I felt better as the week went on. Hope you do too. Do you have to work weekends as you're in retail or is it 9-5?
pmrob - keep going and keep busy, we are here for you to vent when needed! A visit to the GP is prob a good idea, keep them up-to-date with how you feel, they may be able to offer you some other help.
I've had an ok day today, not counting my chickens tho or worrying that it's gonna creep up on me again - just trying to relax, enjoy the feeling and go with it!
Have a good evening both of you.
JoRo
Hey JoRo,
Glad you had better day.
I work either Sat or Sunday each week, thats the delights of retail am afraid!!
Take care.
Jo.xx
Dear JOro pleased your feeleing better hope your doing ok. Dear Jt hope the pregabalin is helping a bit more.
been struggling today 2nd day back and had an intrusive thought about suicide, guess its all the stress with my partner at the moment. Just cant seem to think straight. have to try and be a bit better for thurs as its my eldest sons 12th birthday. I have an appointment with my gp on mon afternoon but if things continue as they are will have to try and get an earlier one. Thought i was making some progress and then bang its right back in your face. Will try and write tomorrow hope we all have a better day.
Hi Jo - How's things being back at work? Noticed any change since you upped your meds?
Hi pmrob - keep strong, remember they are just thoughts however horrid they are - take care, we are all rooting for you.
I've had a couple of ok days but being very cautious and not planning ahead too far.
Wishing you both a calm day.
JoRo
HI JoRo,
Had a not too bad day yesterday but an awful one again today...got GP appointment Friday so see what happens....still not sure about the pregabalin, but not giving up on it yet...it does make me feel a little sleepy so that with the anxiety is not a good combination...so hopefully when the sleepiness wears off I might (hopefully) feel the benefit.
Glad you having couple good days.
May it continue.
Jo.xx
Hi JT69,sorry to hear your still not feeling right.....but you will eventually:-)Personally i think it is phase II of the withdrawal of the Cit with you to be honest.Docs say withdrawal is over after a couple of weeks after stopping the drug-which the physical(sweating,head zaps etc) usually does.Phase II is more mental (deep depression,bad anxiety)this is when docs try to say your original symptoms are commin back---well this is what ive read on the internet anyway.I am in the same position as you same drugs and everything! lol...so ive been following your story very closely.Actually im just back off holiday-took the two kids away myself,thats how well ive been feeling but im feeling a blip commin on though:-( what do you think bout all this phase II stuff do you think its true?
Hi Jo
Don't give up with pregabalin just yet - its still very early days and you've only just upped the doseage. From what you've said and I've read it sounds like a really helpful drug. Keep going hun, you're doing ok and you'll get there in the end. Will keep everything crossed for you.
JoRo
Hi Kerry,
Its been over 4 months since I stopped citalopram....I have been taking mirtazipine for just over 4 months now, I stopped cit previous to that.....I think you may have got a little muddled with me and someone else perhaps hun??
Or is this the phase 2 that you mean??? Not heard of that at all but I know I am suffering alot at the moment and just wish it would all go away and give me some peace.
Jo.xx
Hi any advice would be really welcomed. I have been on 30mg of mirtazipine now for 15 weeks and can honestly say have had more bad days then good. I have also been taking pregabalin for almost 2 weeks now and cant say apart from a couple of days that is has made much difference, currently on 150mg of that....my dilema is do I up the mirtazipine to 45mg?? or do I change meds?? I have previously taken citalopram (before the mirt and over the past 9 years on and off) this last time the anxiety broke through at 40mg hence the change to mirtazipine. Anyone any idea what med I could change to which would help with anxiety particularly?? I dont really want to take time off work...cant afford to...and it just would not be good for me. Has anyone tapered off mirt onto something else?
Any help/advice would really be welcomed.
Thankyou.
JO.xx
ElizabethJane
17-06-10, 08:02
Dear Jo I would love to offer advice but at the moment I do not feel in a position to. I am getting break through anxiety myself on 45mg of mirtazapine. If the meds are not helping then maybe it is time to go back to the docs to discuss this? Some anti depressants seem to be good for anxiety also others are needed to add in something else. Gentle (((((hugs)))) I'm sure that you will get there. At the moment I'm in PJs have great difficulty getting ready for work.
HI JT,hope your feeling bit better today hun....ive had a bad day today.Ive been on a website called Paxil Progress and that mentions Phase II on there.Ive been off cit for 4 and 1/2 month.Been on the Mirt for 3 month,no side effects.Has lifted my mood at 15ml...its just im gettin bit of anxiety at the mo. Sendin you lots of healing wishes everybody.xx
Hi EJ,
So sorry that you are feeling as you are....must be something in the air??? I truely hope your day became better. Take care of you. Jo.xx
Hi Kerry,
Thanks for your kind words...had a bit better day today thankgoodness...had really started to think I was sliding down again...today has given me a bit of restbite. Got GP's tommorow so see what he says...I am thinking of reducing the mirtazipine as I really dont think it is helping me...going to stick with the pregabalin for now though as dont think I have given it long enough, only been on the 150mg for a week tommorow so who knows it just might kick in??? Hope so.
Joro,
Hope you are still doing o.k hun....and on the up???
pmrob,
Hope you are hanging on in there...thinking of you.
Take care everyone.
JO.xx
Hi JT,:hugs:U ok today hun? Im feelin pretty ok at the mo...but this is the thing,im up and down like a yoyo lol.How is your mood are you depressed or just anxious?Also im really worried bout what ive read on Paxil Progress,it seems to have thousands of people on it going through the same thing but their saying it was caused by the drugs and its the drugs that have done the damage.Scary......hope its not true eh.Think that might be why my CNS is sensitive now coz i cold turkeyed cit and tried to go back on when my system was still shaky from the withdrawal--so produced an adverse reaction:doh:..xxxx:flowers.Hope you all have a very relaxed chilled day.
Hi Kerry,
Yes a better day today so another bit of positivity!! Went to see my GP who has upped the dose of pregabalin but I am going to see if I have settled before doing that.
Its not depression just anxiety and its bloody awful...Wednesday was the worst day I have ever had, the whole of the inside of my body felt like it was just shaking!!! Dont want another day like that. Trouble is it is just general anxiety too...if I had something causing it could try and do something about it but it doesnt work that way with GAD!!!
Still am soildering on like you have to.
Glad you feeling o.k I am going to avoid reading paxil progress....lol!!!
TC
JO.xx
Hi Jo
I'm still feeling better but still not counting my chickens! Will take a while for me to relax and get my confidence back as Im still waiting for GAD to hit again.
Did they swap your other meds? I'm exactly the same, there is never a trigger with my GAD either.
Well done on getting through Wednesday, you should be proud of yourself.
Take care hun, will be thinking of you.
JoRo
Thanks Jt69. Hope everyone is having a decent day. Just got up after night shift dont know if i am coming or going.:doh: Had an ok day yesterday three or four intrusive thoughts but they dont seem to make me as anxious as they used to. Have been on 45mg dose for nearly three weeks and have to see doctor on monday to discuss progress. Guess with all the upset and stress of splitting up with my partner its hard to guage easily so will ask to continue on this dose for another 4 weeks before commiting to any changes of meds. Partner is definitely going but says she wants to continue a relationship with me but wants to allow me to try and get better and stronger on my own. I am a little scared but it might be what i need so i can concentrate on me and my two children for a while.
Speak soon look after yourselves:shades:
JT69 and pmrob
How's things?
JoRo
Hi JoRo,
Things pretty normal for me at the moment...at last...am just still taking each day is it comes as you never know what is round the corner but am waking up fine and the anxiety has gone away for the time being!!!
How are you doing???
Jo.xx
Hey Jo thats fantastic news. I'm plodding along nicely thanks. Here's to a great weekend in the sunshine - a weekend that we can actually relax and enjoy. Keep in touch.
JoRo
hi joro and jt. Well what a week:wacko: Had to see the company doctor today and he has said if i was under his care he would recommend risperidone at 0.5mg per day to try and help with the intrusive thoughts. It scares me silly if thats the way i have to go has anyone been on this before? Hope you two are ok and having a good day. enjoy the weekend :flowers:
pmrob -dont worry, go see your GP, they know you best, how was your week otherwise?
Take care.
JoRo
Hi pmrob,
I agree with Joro, go and have a chat with your GP....sometimes we have to take an add on med to the anti-depressant we are taking and it helps with specific things we suffer with. It is like I take the pregabalin and that is helping me with my general anxiety.
Hope all ok apart from that.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi JT and JOro. My week hasnt been to bad thanks and yours? Yesterday was a good day no intrusive thoughts at all just a tinge of anxiety but it caught me out big time this morning at work. Everything going ok until about 11am then bang a wild thought about what if i kill myself? where it came from ive no idea, but its managed to pull me down to the point of actually crying. Im so fed up with this situation i think i will have to see the gp asap.
Well girls i hope your having a good weekend ,will you be cheering on the team tomorrow afternoon. Speak soon pmrob :shrug:
Hi PMrob,
Unfortunately I have to work tommorow so will be very nervous thinking of England (perhaps its better I am at work), my shift finishes at 4.15 so if extra time and maybe penalties.....God I hope England do it......or Monday we are all going to wake up depressed!!! I will definately be hoping and praying!!!
Yes, good idea you visiting your GP to have a chat...let us know how you get on!!!
COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi JT amd joro well back from the docs and she wants me to seek a second opinion from a psychiatrist and will not change my meds until i have seen one so now will be on the waiting list i guess. She has increased the propanalol to 2 x 80mg per day although i dont think that helps too much. Luckily no intrusive thoughts up to now so just keep plodding on. Hope you two are ok and didnt get too angry at that shoddy display yesterday :mad:
Hey pmrob,
Was so down in the dumps last night!!! But what a shower of XXXX!!!!! They deserved to go out!!!
Glad you getting somewhere with seeing the psych...hopefully will help you.
TC
Jo.xx
Hi Jo and pmrob
Im plodding along nicely, a few anx patches but they dont last long and I can brush them off.
Jo - you are doing so well, really pleased that things are picking up for you.
pmrob - hope the increase in propanalol helps - are you on any other meds? am sure the head doctor will be able to help.... they are experts and have seen it all before, just hang on in there until you get an appt.
Take care both and keep updating, its so good to read some positives after what we have all been through.
JoRo
Hi jt and joro. Just a quick post hope everything is going ok for the pair of you. I have just finished my two night shifts so dont know if i am coming or going. Received a call from acute mental health services monday night to see if i was ok the person wanted to know if i needed an emergency home visit or a referral to a psychiatric team in the community. I guess i am ok to wait hopefully i have been told it will be a week to ten days but i wont get to see the psychiatrist it will be an initial interview with a psychiatric nurse. Do you ever ask yourself what life is really about. The intrusive thoughts still pop into my mind but dont seem as strong as a few days ago but i find myself questioning is this all that life is about. Dont get me wrong i am not suicidal but when you question yourself about wether you want to kill yourself you do wonder if you are going mad. Hope you two are having good weeks with your meds. What is it your both taking. I am now on 80mg propanalol twice a day and 45mg mirtazapine. My low moods do seem to be getting better slowly and i sleep better than a few months ago but feel like i am being held back by my intrusive thoughts and questioning about what is life about.
Well hopefully in two weeks time will be at the Royal international air tattoo with my eldest son and best friend and will have a good time.
Speak to you both soon:noangel:
Hi Joro and pmrob,
Yes still have the odd anxiety here and there and always when I first wake but am doing o.k.
Pmrob, am taking 30mg mirtazipine and 150mg pregabalin......the pregabalin has helped me so much....I hope to reduce on the mirtazipine soon but not just at the moment...want a few more stable weeks first or I might just dip again!!! Hope you get the support you need.
Take care both of you.
Jo.xx
hi jt and joro, well the appointment for the mental health nurse has come through for monday afternoon. Hopefully this is another step to recovery. Had no intrusive thoughts from thurs early morning to fri afternoon so am taking this as a sign that things are slowly improving.Got up this morning feeling slightly nervous and anxious but just cant pinpoint why. Hope your both having good weekends and the meds are doing their job. Speak to you both later in the week after my appointment look after yourselves
Hey pmrob - good luck with appt. Sounds like things are on the up, its a slow process but you'll get there and we all have blips along the way. I'm having a relaxing weekend after a week at work and even a couple of nights out! Take care and let us know how you get on.
JoRo
Hi JT and JoRo just a quick post. Had no intrusive thoughts yesterday but have had one today. Just a "what if " thought but it has really upset me. It was about hurting someone even though i have never hurt anyone in my life. I cant beleive how upsetting thoughts can be. Well hopefully tomorrow is the start of finding the right direction forward for me. Hope your weekends are going well :wacko:
Hi pmrob,
Sorry to hear you had intrustive thoughts today...must be awful. Hope your appointment goes well and helps you in the right direction. Let us know how you get on.
Joro, hope your weekend is good.
I had to work today so just got in...was so busy, people shopping for their holiday bits and bobs, been feeling well, just a little morning anxiety and the odd period of exhaustion but the weather contributes to that...at least my work place is air conditioned.
Hope you both have a good week.
Jo.xx
Well back from my appointment and to say i am underwhelmed is not too strong a sentiment. Thought i would have been given some guidance today but it was just an assessment by a psych nurse just to see if i need to see the consultant or a junior doctor. Will take approx 3 weeks to see a junior doctor or about 8 weeks to see the consultant. Guess i just have to wait around and see hopefully the mirt is doing its job as i feel ok in the afternoons and no intrusive thoughts today (yet) Hope everyone is ok speak to you all soon :doh:
Hi pmrob,
Sorry you didnt get the results you wanted from your appointment....annoying how you need to get sorted and they just take so long sorting it all out....something wrong with the system!!
Encourageing that you feel alot better in the afternoons...mornings are not the best time for me either.
Lets hope it continues for you.
Take care
Jo.xx
Thanks for the reply. Yes a bit disappointing but thats the nhs sometimes. NO intrusive thoughts today (thanks big g lol) only felt down for about 4 to 5 hours so things seem to be moving in the direction. Have spent most of the evening at the hospital with my eldest lad, he managed to break his wrist at school and had to have an operation this evening. Well everything is ok with him so thats great. Youngest ones sports day tomorrow so looking forward to it. Have a good day everyone tomorow:winks:
Hi both
Im still waiting for cbt - its been nearly 4 months now but the NHS dont have the resources so its a case of be patient and carry on.
pmrob - youre doing really well, I think any parent having a child in hospital gets anxious so good on you for coping, not sure I would have coped in that situation. Hope your son is ok and recovering well.
JT - how's things with you? Still on the up I hope.
JoRo
HI JoRo,
Me too....have been waiting for almost 4 months too!!! My GP said it would be around 12 weeks so I guess it should come up soon...just hope it will be worth it.
Am doing o.k just suffer anxiety here and there especially when waking its always there...I guess we have to live with a part of it...but I think it just gets you down at times. I find I am better on the days I work and crappy for longer on the days I dont...am on a late today so feel bit crap at the moment, cant eat etc until later. GP did say I could increase the pregabalin to 200mg if I wanted to but havent done as yet but might give it a go if this continues. How are you feeling in yourself??
Pmrob, sorry to hear about your son...hope he recovers o.k. and hope its not raining where you are for the sports day...my 2 are 15 and 18 so sports days are a thing of the past but used to enjoy watching them especially when they got older and became more competitive.
Take care both of you.
Jo.xx
Hi thanks both of you. My son is ok now out of hospital with a full arm length cast on but is feeling better. Wish the same could be said of me a couple of intrusive thoughts today, it does make me scared and full of anguish and really dislike them, roll on the days when they stop. Just getting ready for a night shift tonight and tomorrow then i have 9 days off. Have asked my gp about pregabalin but she will not prescribe that drug also the same with risperidone. having to wait for someone at the community psychiatric unit to see me and make a decision. Hope you two are ok i also feel better when i am busy at work.
Speak to you soon :flowers:
Hi pmrob,
What reason did your GP give for not prescribing pregabalin?? Is it because of the appointment pending with the community psych unit?? I know it has helped me...I know I still have my moments but am much better since taking it...the downside is more weight gain which I really could of done without!!! I try not to let it get to me but it does at times.....still I know I would rather be feeling happier and less anxious so got to get on with it...I enjoy my food too much!!!
Take care and lets hope you get that appointment pretty soon!!!
Jo.xx
hi jt and joro hope your both having a good weekend. In answer to your question jt my doctor wont prescribe pregabalin because as a surgery they dont believe it shows any benefits to people with anxiety. I have had a call from the cmh unit and have been told they have decided to refer me to a junior doctor and not the consultant but it will still be a long time for an appointment. My anxiety seems to have definitely decreased over the last few days but my depression seems to have come to the fore instead. I have my children stay with me over the weekend and we went out for the day yesterday and what should have been a fantastic day was spoilt for me because around about two oclock i felt that i was feelinf down and it persisted all afternoon and evening. Hopefully this is just a blip, if not guess i need to speak to the doctor about my medication and see if i can have an add on or wether i need to change anti depressant. It would be a shame as i know the mirt really helps with my sleep.
How are you two feeling things ok? This heat doesnt make things easy hope we have a thunderstorm to clear the air soon.
Speak soon :doh:
Hi JT and pmrob
I'm having a bit of a blip, have definitely been on the up for the last couple of weeks and was feeling almost 100% but unfortunately, the anx started again on Wednesday and feel like I'm going backwards. I'm sure its not as bad as the last blip but you know what its like, its really hard to tell, because you just feel so aggitated and pre-occupied and scared that it's all gonna come back with a vengence.
Hope you are both ok.
JoRo
Hi JoRo hopefully it is a blip. I know how difficult it can be and i have everything crossed for you. Look after yourself
Hi Joro,
It will be just a blip hun definately....look back and see how far you have come. I think with this dreadful illness there is always a blip here and there and it is easy to say that it will just be that but when you are actually experiencing it, it then feels so different and you are convinced that you are going back-wards. I truely believe it takes months to get out of your system properly...I know cos each time I suffer is always like that.
I hope that this blip has passed for you hun I really do. But rest assured if it hasn't it will...just try to go with it and you will come out the other side again!!
Send you big hug.:hugs:
Take care
Jo.xx
Hi pmrob,
Sorry you feel down again!! Such a poxy illness isn't it...I wonder if the mirtazipine is right for you and you may need to change...what dose are you on?? I know with me it helps me sleep it really does but I think it helped me at first but the pregabalin did the trick for me and it is such a shame your GP surgery dont think it helps!! Perhaps they should read peoples experiences on here...I for one know it really has helped me!!!
Anyhow if you continue to feel down then I would go back and chat to your GP, see what they say.
Take care of yourself.
JO.xx
Hi jt yes it is a poxy illness i am currently on 45mg mirt per day and yes it really helps with sleep. I have read of people who have been co dosed with mirt and another ssri so will have to wait till i see the junior doctor in the mental health team. My gp is very reluctant to prescribe things she isnt sure about it seems she has very little experience of mental health hence the referral to the community mental health team.
Just have to wait now. Hope you are doing ok.
Hi JoRo and jt just a quick update. My appointment to see a junior doctor in the CMHT has come through for this friday so hopefully the first steps toward recovery. Hope you both are doing ok and looking after yourselves :)
Hi pmrob,
Thats great news!!!
Be sure to update us after you have been.
Take care and hope it goes well for you.
Jo.xx
Hey Joro,
How are you doing hun??? Not heard from you for a bit...hope all o.k and that blip has passed by??
Jo.xx
Hi Jo
I'm still in the blip (a week now). I know that its not as bad as before and out of the last 7 days, 3 have been pretty much normal. The anx and all the symptons that go with it are not as strong, so I've just gotta ride it out. Like you said these things take time to pass and a few blips are all part of the recovery process but they are bloody scarey all the same.
Will see how I go over the next week and if no improvement will see doc again as I would have been on sertraline for 10 weeks next week.
Wish the CBT would hurry up tho!
Thanks for your concern, its appreciated.
JoRo
Hi JoRo and JT just a quick update. Saw the junior doctor at the cmht on friday afternoon. He spent 45 mins finding out about me my current situation, medication, work, life in general etc and came up with the conclusion that perhaps mirtazapine isnt the right one for me and may be part of the cause of the intrusive thoughts. He wants to start me on venlafaxine and come off the mirt. He discussed it with the consultant psych on friday and rang me back about 330pm. Am happy that something has come out of it but a bit scared about changing meds as i seem to be highly affected by any changes in my meds. Any ways will let you know how things go and hope that you are both doing ok.:blush:
Hey pmrob,
Glad that something good has come out of your appointment, I truely believe that these people are much more tuned and knowledgable about the meds than GP's are so I am sure it will be the right thing for you. Yes I surpose a change over would be a concern but you have to think long term and the positives around it....you just need to plan time around the change over etc and then you should be fine.
Am pleased for you. Keep us up-dated on how you get on. I'm not too bad at the moment but still just take each day as it comes...got 1 more week at work then 2 weeks off and am then going to try to reduce the mirtazipine to 15mg and see how I go with that.
Take care
Jo.xx
Good for you JT hope it goes swimmingly with the reduction of mirt. I too willl be on that boat soon so heres to us lats hope were on the up :huh:
ElizabethJane
18-07-10, 20:01
To Pmrob1 I'm glad that the doctors have sorted out your meds. I hope that you have more success with the venlafaxine than the mirtazapine. I don't know whether the mirt can cause intrusive thoughts or exacerbate them. I hope the new meds help with this. To JoRo I'm sorry that you are still experiencing a blip and not feeling any better. To Jo I'm jealous! I didn't know that you were down to 15mg mirtazapine. Well done! Does that mean that the pregabalin is doing the trick? Take care. EJ.
Hi EJ,
I am not down to 15mg on the mirt yet...I have one more week at work then 2 off so am going to do it then and see how I go. I still wake up feeling pretty awful but I think that may be due to the mirt and its sedative properties...we shall see. The pregabalin have certainly helped me alot, not sure if I can take them long term...will have a chat with GP next time I go. Hope you are doing o.k??
Take care.
Jo.xx
Well here i go i have the 75mg daily dose of venlafaxine and i am about to board the ride. Dont know what to expect but am coming off the mirt over a 3 week period. Am scared sh#tless but will post as often as i can to let you know how i am getting on. :doh:
Hi pmrob,
Dont be scared, just remember you have lots of support here and help and encouragement. Things can only get better matey and I really hope that is so soon for you.
Take care.
JO.xx
Thanks JT, well day one of velafaxine wasnt too bad, a little nausea and some hot sweats during the night. Have reduced the mirt to 37.5 for 3 nights then going to 30mg for six nights so hopefully the withdrawal effects wont be so bad.
How are you and JoRo doing things still going ok? keep me posted:flowers:
Hey pmrob,
Yes am doing o.k at the moment....got 2 weeks off after this week so cant wait for that!!! You just have to take one day at a time though as you never can tell with this illness, one day you can be fine the next crashed again and suffering with anxiety. I am starting to be effected by the weight I have gained since taking both mirt and pregabalin I gained about a stone on both and its not good...trying hard not to let it get to me but it does sometime!! I think after my hols I will try and do something about it, hopefully reducing the mirtazipine might help!! Glad you doing o.k....may it continue....
Take care
Jo.xx
thanks Jt day two wasnt too bad a couple of anxious points but i am quick turn around at work this morning so feeling tired and more anxious than yesterday.Yes you are right one day at a time is the only way to be. Hope you are ok:wacko:
Day three and four over with. Not too bad a few anxious moments and hot flushes and sweating but not too bad. start on nights tonight but not too sure when to take my meds after work or when i wake up. Still reducing the mirt down to 30mg for next four days then 22.5mg for another few days. Well hope you other peeps are doing ok post soon
yvonne_uk_98
24-07-10, 23:43
Hi Jo,
Sorry to hear that you have put weight on due to the meds, hope you have good two weeks holiday, Please could you let me know when your going to be cutting down, I would like to cut down too with you. doing this on your own is much more hard work. hope you dont mind me asking.
Yvonne:hugs:
Hi Yvonne,
I started to cut down last night....took half of one of the 15mg mirtazipine and 1x15mg, remaining on the pregabalin though as I think this helps the anxiety. I didnt realise you were still taking meds...I thought you had come off a while ago. Or do you mean cutting down food wize??
Take care and course I dont mind you asking.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
25-07-10, 15:38
Hi Jo this is good news if you are able to cut down on your meds. I have put on weight too with mirtazapine although the gain is manageable at the moment. I'm a size 14 rather than a 12 so can't complain really. I'm hoping to return to ww's in the Autumn and working every Saturday at the moment and the ww's meeting is on a Saturday. I hope that you can drop down without an increase in anxiety. I felt really warm in Church today and this started my anxiety. I could only think about the diazepan in my handbag. I took my robe off and was fanning myself but I didn't feel so good. Anxiety seems to be triggered by many different things. Take care. Hi Yvonne. EJ.
Hi EJ,
Lovely to hear from you....I can so relate to the chuch and feeling warm...blooming anxiety it just rears its head in so many situations. I am hoping I can reduce without an increase in anxiety but if it does return will have to increase again!!! Wish I was a size 14...have had a weight problem since having my children was a size 10/12 before that...my mum was the same and I have done the same....so the mirt and pregabalin (which has caused about another half stone) havent helped....I am around a size 20 even though people say I carry it well I hate it but have had to put the mental state first....my husband is amazing and loves me whatever the size but it does get me down!! We shall see what happens.
Hope you feel easier now. I am indulging in a nice pimms tonight and really enjoying it.
Take care you too.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
25-07-10, 18:40
There's no denying that mirt gives us the munchies. Pimms is low calorie with diet tonic!! I have lost weight on the mirt but it is difficult being on lithium as well and I dont want to unbalance my lithium levels. Good luck and best wishes with trying to lose weight though.
yvonne_uk_98
25-07-10, 21:55
Hi Yvonne,
I started to cut down last night....took half of one of the 15mg mirtazipine and 1x15mg, remaining on the pregabalin though as I think this helps the anxiety. I didnt realise you were still taking meds...I thought you had come off a while ago. Or do you mean cutting down food wize??
Take care and course I dont mind you asking.
Jo.xx
Hi Jo,
sorry, I meant cutting down on food wise. Yes Im still not on any meds, though I still use diazapine. its really great to keep panic attacks under control.
Yvonne
Hi Joro and pmrob,
Wondered how you were both doing??? Not heard from you Joro for a while??? Hope all is well....
Jo.xx
Hi Jt guess i forgot to post in the mirt room.:wacko: Well i am on day 8 of the venlafaxine whilst cutting back on the mirt iam going to 15mg mirtazapine tonight for the next week and up to now have been doing ok not too many withdrawal probs. think the venfalaxine is doing something just not too sure at the moment. a lot of the intrusive thoughts have slowed down and not been so strong just feeling a little washed out at the moment. How are you doing? Hope things are going ok. Not heard from JOro recentkly have you? ttfn speak soon:roflmao:
Hi JT and pmrob - I'm ok and still around. Have had a few blips but they are getting less and are not as strong and I try not to let them freak me out!
Glad to hear things are getting better for you both.
Will keep in touch but try not to come on here too much because it does tend to feed the fear if I read the posts!
Take care
JoRo xx
Hi Jt and JoRo. things are going ok thanks. I have had some hot sweats and nervousness but not too bad. I have had no intrusive thoughts for a few days until this morning hopefully this is still the mirtazapine having an effect still taking day 12 of venlafaxine and on 15mg of mirtazapine. How are you two doing
Hi Pmrob,
I have had a bit of a blip these past few days with anxiety coming back quite bad on some days!! I have had stressful situations going on though so may be down to that. Back home now and hoping I will settle. Am currently still on half a 15mg tab + 1 x 15mg, I plan to stay on this dose for at least another week before reducing down to 15mg. I am also thinking of upping the pregabalin to 200mg if the anxiety continues (my GP suggested this a while ago but I felt alot better so didnt do it).
Glad you are doing o.k. When do you have to cut the mirtazipine out completely?
Take care and may your good days continue.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
03-08-10, 19:42
Hi Jo I was wondering how you were doing? I'm sorry that the anxiety has returned. It could be a side effect of reducing the mirtazapine. I wouldn't let it get too bad before consulting your doctor. You say that you could increase the pregabalin? I hope that this works for you. It is hard to know at times whether it is the drugs causing the anxiety or the original problem resurfacing. My Dad is in hospital at the moment so I felt fairly anxious this morning. I'll know later whether his op has been a sucess or not. I'm working almost full time hours so not very happy about that and look foward to my holiday. EJ.
Hi JT
I too take Mirtazapine to help with sleep and chronic anxiety. I foolishly stopped taking it this week to see if I could get by. No, is the answer - so have decided I need to stick with it.
Hope your blip resolves itself.
Mike:)
Hi Mike,
What dose do you take and how long have you been taking it for??
Jo.xx
Hello EJ,
Hope your Dads operation was sucessful and your mind has been eased. I have had alot of stress with my mum over the past few days....she lives a distance from me and we visited her and her memory is a big worry...she is only 67 as well and it has been getting worse since she retired at 60. So I think my anxiety has been made worse due to this. I always get really worked up before going away when suffering as well so this didnt help and I had an awful day last Saturday. I am still only reducing the mirt by half of a 15mg tablet and dont intend to change that for at least another week and if the anxiety continues will go back to see my GP.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi all, just to let you know how i am doing. I have now cut down the mirt to 15mg a day and have been on the venlafaxine for 16 days. I am due to cut the mirt down to 7.5mg from tonight. Still feel a bit anxious and have had a couple of days of intrusive thoughts but this may still be the mirt in my system and having been on nights and being tired. Hope everyone is doing ok speak soon.:shades:
Hi pmrob,
You are nearly there...almost off the mirtazipine. It sounds like you managed to get onto the venlfaxine without too much in the way of side effects??
May it continue for you.
TC
Jo.xx
Hi JT yes nearly off the mirt took my first 7.5mg last night just 6 more days of every day then a week of every other day. I have taken the venlafaxine for 19 days now and the only side effect i have noticed so far is a bit of queeziness for a few hours after taking it. I think i am making slow progress and may it continue.
How are you doing? things ok? let me know :huh:
Hi pmrob,
Am so pleased for you...sounds like you are doing really well!! At last...as you been through the mill lately!!
Its nearly 2 weeks since I started to reduce the mirtazipine....I am going to cut out the half of the 15mg tab from tonight and see how I go...that means I will be on 15mg...am just hoping it does not make me feel more drowsy on waking as people say its more sedating on lower doses!!!
I am leaving the pregabalin dose as it is for now so I dont try to do too many things with my meds at once, that way I can identify it any effects are felt.
Anyhow enough about me....back to you and I really hope that you go from strength to strength....we will beat this illness or at least keep it under control!!!:)
Just one other thing are you still sleeping well reducing on the mirt??? That is a bit of a concern for me that if and when I stop it I wont sleep as well...cos never slept as well as I have since taking the mirtazipine!!! Just want rid of this excess weight!!
TC
Jo.xx
hi Jt yes my sleep is still ok at the moment thanks but still taking 7.5mg on a night time. My anxiety level has crept up today not sure if its the effect of reducing the mirt or wether its just how i am. Its awful to suffer with anxiety and i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy i hope you are able to cut down ok please let me know how you are doing. Havent heard anything from Joro in a while have you? Speak soon ttfn :flowers:
ElizabethJane
06-08-10, 17:29
Hi Jo I'm glad that the reductions in the mirtazapine have been successful for you. I have reduced mirtazapine and come off it in the past. I had quite a difficult journey though. You say that you want to lose weight which is fine but as you know something that needs to be done slowly to ensure a lasting result. I found it easier to lose weight once off mirtazapine but I have lost weight whilst on it too. The important thing here is to remain mentally well. I am primarily treated for depression so we are different in that respect. I am aware of anxiety just around the corner and I don't cope well with stress. Thanks for asking about my Dad. His operation was not successful and he will have to attend again in Setember. I'm not sure how much he can take as he is eighty one. He has a major artery that the hospital is afraid that it might burst as the skin on his face is very thin. He has a large hemingioma on his face. I hope that you can sort something out for your Mother too. EJ.
Hi pmrob,
Joro just pops on occasionally now...she is doing o.k though I believe. I feel o.k. at the moment...will reduce again from tonight and let you know how it goes.
Glad you doing well....let it continue.
TC
Jo.xx
Hi Jt pleased that you are able to cut down the mirt as well they will soon have to kick us out of this forum lol. Well i am day 20 of the venlafaxine. It seems to have helped with my low mood which improves slowly still suffering a couple of intrusive thoughts per day but they dont feel as emotionally strong as in the past and i dont seem to linger on them as long. Hopefully as i repeay myself lol its the mirt that makes me anxious as looking back it was after starting on it that my anxiety level rose. Still nowhere sorted with my partner that also doesnt help, she is still in the process of moving out after 8 weeks but because she has defined a certain area and price she is struggling to find something, and all the uncertainty definetely adds to the anxiousness. well listen to me warble on. well hope your ok and cutting down for you goes ok:noangel:
Hey pmrob,
I hope we dont get thrown off here as I enjoy coming on and helping others even when I feel crap myself!!! Lol!! I always think there is someone in a worse position than I am....
I have had a pretty awful day today....I did drop to 15mg of the mirt last night but it cant be that already??? I think it is because I have just had 2 weeks off work and I go back Monday and the old anxiety often rears its ugly head when I have a hurdle (as I call it) God knows why cos I know there is nothing to be anxious about but for me it just happens and it is something that I really need to conquer...its so ridiculous. Yesterday I was on top of the world and today...??? Well somethings we just cannot work out...or I cant.
Please feel free to post away and dont think you are warbleing on?? That is not the case...its good to get it off your chest...I didn't realise that your partner is still there with you...cant be easy?? but you are doing so well so dont let that stop you!!
I dont think the mirt has helped my anxiety much at all thats why I am reducing...but must do it slowly as dont want to relapse, if anything the pregabalin is the meds that has helped me!!
Anyhow I am warbling now (love the phrase)!!! You must be from the North....?? I am originally but live in the South now!!
May your smooth journey continue....
Keep in touch.
Jo.xx
Yes up north as they say lol :yesyes:
Well JT how are you doing? Have had a good day up until 6pm then an intrusive thought exactly at the same time as the last couple of days so hopefully its related to medication. Mood is much improved on the venlafaxine, 3 weeks now and no serious side effects:whistles: hopefully it will keep on going. Just over a week left of the 7.5mg mirt every day then every other day. Hope you other peeps are doing ok keep fighting the good fight as they say. lol :doh:
Well guess i spoke too soon. My anxiety shot through the roof this morning and a couple of the intrusive thoughts to help it along!! havent slept very well last couple of nights so perhaps its because i am tired. Still at leasy my mood is ok at the moment. Well how is eveyone hope your doing fine :wacko:
Hi PMrob,
I had a pretty rough day yesterday and felt awful this morning first thing...I put this down to returning to work after a couple of weeks off....am now down to 15mg of the mirtazipine and remaining on 150mg of pregabalin so will see how the next couple of weeks go.
I wonder if you are experiencing some withdrawal from the mirtazipine as you are not sleeping so well and this helps with sleep?? I hope this soon settles for you...it may be just temporary!!
Let me know how you go.
Take care
Jo.xx
Hello both - sorry for being a stranger! I'm a bit up and down at the mo. Had a really good couple of weeks and now the anx has started to creep back in, although not as bad as before but the fear of it returning brings me out in a hot sweat (literally). Still waiting for CBT (nearly 5 months) - Jo have you started your CBT yet? Have been on Sertraline for 14 weeks now, too nervous to go back to docs and tell him how I feel in case he swaps my meds again, really dont know if I could cope with it but the thought of feeling anx on and off forever well..................... am stuck between a rock and a hard place! Oh well, let's all keep plodding on and try to keep positive. JoRo
Hi Joro,
Sorry you so up and down...have you thought of trying or asking your GP about pregabalin...that is the thing that is helping me the most with my anxiety. I have reduced my mirtazipine to 15mg now and take 200mg of pregabalin, I like you have been so up and down and didnt want to change my meds...I had previously been on citalopram for on and off for around 9 years before this last time it not working for me, so changed to mirtazipine and have gained so much weight...plus I dont think it has helped me much as far as the anxiety goes, it does help me sleep though and I wonder how I will be when I eventually come off it?? You never know what to do for the best do you??
I cannot praise pregabalin enough. I have also read that you can up the dose quite a bit too so I am going to go down that route.
You wont feel like this forever Jo, there has to be something to help you...I know I feel like that some days too, but I have got over this before and lived and woke up feeling normal so we can do it, its just finding the right meds to help.
It may be worth you asking about that or even other meds that can be added onto what you are taking to help the anxiety....feel for you...know exactly what its like.
Better days ahead...hopefully.
Let me know how you go.
Jo.xx
Hey Jo, thanks for your support. I need to bite the bullet and go to the docs, maybe he will increase the dose of Sertraline. Will definitely mention pregabalin. You are so right, other meds have worked for me before, so there must be something out there that will work for me again and I have to remember that it I've had 3 normal weeks before I hit this blip. Will keep in touch. And again thanks for your support.
Hope things are more settled for you.
JoRo x
Hi JT and JoRo sorry to hear that you are both struggling guess it must be catching because i am also struggling at the moment. I have stopped taking the mirt as of wed night and dont know if its the withdrawal effect but i am definitely not sleeping as well and am waking up in a cold sweat. My anxiety has increased over the last few days as well so it is making things difficult. My mood is slowly improving but still having the few days were it takes to the afternoon before i feel ok. I am due back at the CMHT on the 8th sept so i will have had a full 8 weeks on the 75mg dose of venlafaxine and guess we will see were i am at at that point and the way forward. Hoping things go well at the docs JoRo and things improve for the both of you. Speak soon :wacko:
Hi pmrob,
I guess you may be suffering from a bit of withdrawal from the mirtazipine and side effects from the venlafaxine as srri's can cause increased anxiety at first.
I start my CBT/concelling on Wednesday after waiting for months!! I am now down to 15mg of the mirtazipine and have an appointment with my Dr Thursday to discuss if I reduce further or wait a while....personally I would like to come off mirtazipine and just take the pregabalin and see how that goes as I feel that is what has helped my anxiety....I still suffer with it but not anywhere near as bad as it was...and I know the pregabalin has made a difference.
See how it goes....keep in touch.
Jo.xx
hi Jt how did things go with the CBT? did it make any sense or did you come out of there feeling more confused than ever. Hows it going with your reduction of mirtazapine? do you feel your ready to come down more? I have now been off the mirt for one week and definitely am not sleeping as well but the tradeoff is i dont suffer with the prolonged headaches anymore. My mood is slowly improving and i am having less intrusive thoughts than when i was on the mirt, although i still have them they are less frequent and less stronger. I am still on the 75mg of the slow release venlafaxine but do feel that they have run their course by about 3 or 4am as i wake up feelinf awful and in a cold sweat. Well hope things become better for you keep in touch :flowers:
Hi pmrob,
It went well but it was more counselling than CBT though she said she does do cbt, today was more about finding out about past etc and dragging all that up which is fine as I think it was what triggered all of this off in the first place.
I am back at the docs tommorow to discuss a further reduction or if I am to stay as I am?? Not sure what to do at the moment and feeling really well but tommorow I could take a few steps back as I have been doing over the months.
Sorry to hear you not sleeping too good...I find my anxiety is worse when I am tired, but the plus side of it is better for you. Perhaps you are ready for an increase in the venlafaxine?? not nice waking up awful...I know that so well...but may still be side effects?? Not taken this drug before so dont know alot about it but I really do hope it helps you....you have been through it alot. Hope it improves for you. Thinking of you.
Jo.xx
Thanks Jo will keep you posted. Have a good week :flowers:
Hi,
Just quick update. Just got back from seeing GP and he wants me to stick to 15mg for another week or so then half that for another couple of weeks before completely stopping the mirtazipine. I now take 200mg of pregabalin (100 am and 100 at night) so am to stick with that.
See how it all goes.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
19-08-10, 12:32
That's really good news Jo. I am glad that the pregabalin is working for you. Please don't stop posting on this thread too. Your pearls of wisdom have been much appreciated by me and I'm sure new users of mirtazapine will find them useful too. Very best wishes and good luck with the weight loss (and me too)
Thanks EJ, I will certainly still post. I cant deny that I am not sure what is around the corner for me. I have taken AD's for the past 11 years on and off and mostly on. I took citalopram for around 9 years and when feeling better would reduce down to 10mg and stick at that and just increase when the illness came back. So coming off mirtazipine is new to me and I dont know how it will go but we can only try and see how we go. I do believe that the pregabalin has done the trick for me, but time will tell. You take care too.
Jo.xx
ElizabethJane
19-08-10, 15:59
Time will certainly tell Jo. I haven't really known a life without meds for a very long time. As the main feature of my illness is depression I'll stay on lithium for the foreseable future. I'm still hoping to be allowed to go down to 30mg of mirtazapine. Time and Dr J will tell. I don't think that the meds mask my illness or provide a crutch. It took me many years to understand that in my case I might need meds for the rest of my life and that is Q for quality of life. I enjoy my singing and my job and have a lovely son and hubs what more could a girl want?
yvonne_uk_98
20-08-10, 09:12
Hi Jo,
How are you? Hope you have a good weekend. came in to let you know that I'm going to be deleting my thread, and that I'm moving on, I will come back and say hi to you and all the people who gave me kind words and encouraged me, I'm very grateful for all the kind words and your encouragements. Thank you very much for your beautiful support.
I'm going to Ellel Ministeries this weekend. I hope you have a good weekend. I will be back on Monday to delete my thread.
lots of love & hugs
:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
Yvonne
Hi JT, good news about your mirt. Good luck with the reduction hope it all goes well. Hopefully the pregablin is doing its job. I have now been off the mirt for 1and half weeeks and no nasty side effects (except poor spelling lol). I am still waking feeling quite anxious and having a few intrusive thoughts and my sleep pattern has become more broken. Dont know if i need an increase in the venlafaxine but will discuss with the CMHT on 6th sept. Hang on in there speak soon pmrob xxx
Hi JT and pmrob
Just wanted to let you both know I'm still here and plodding along nicely. Still have odd moments but have learnt to cope with them and not dwell. Still waiting for CBT. Hope you are both well and recovering steadily.
JoRo
Hi JT and JoRo. Well it has been a long time since i posted on here. Glad to hear your both doing ok. I am also doing ok, am completely off the mirt for the last 3 weeks and just taking the venlafaxine. I attended the CMHT on monday and they have recommended increasing my doasage to 150mg per day as i still suffer from low mood mainly in a morning but the good news is a lot of the intrusive thoughts and the anxiety has slowed down or stopped. It does seem to be doing its job. Hope things keep improving for you both. Speak soon :yahoo:
Hi Joro/pmrob,
I have not been on here either for couple days...glad that you are both doing well.
I have had my 3rd session of counselling now and am learning alot from it and it appears I put everyone before me and never think of myself until last...I also dont relax without making myself and find it so hard so she is working on that!!! Alot of the past has been dragged up etc and I did feel worse after the 2nd session but am ok again now.
I am still on 15mg of mitazipine and 200mg pregabalin. I go away for a week in a couple of weeks when back from that am going to try to come off the mirt and just take the pregabalin...we shall see.
I have gained so much weight on the meds and especially the mirtazipine so hoping it will come off when I stop!! I dont feel nice about myself because of it but tell myself its better to be mentally well!!
Keep in touch both of you....its nice to know how you are doing...
Take care
Jo.xx
yvonne_uk_98
14-09-10, 11:58
Hi Jo and everyone,
How have you been doing? I'm doing alright, I'm at college 3 days aweek, I'm getting a little of pressure from my dad and sister, other than that I alright, just though I pop in and say hi, miss you all. hope you have a good day today.
Yvonne :hugs:
hi just a quick post to let you all know how i am getting on. Well its now day 5 of the increased dosage i am now on 150 mg venlafaxine. The hot sweats are back and occasional anxious thoughts and feelings but over all not to bad. Things definitely feel as if they are going the right way. How are you all doing? hope things are going ok for you all let me know :winks:
Hi pmrob,
Good to hear from you...did wonder how you were doing. I am going well (always feel scared to say that for obvious reasons), I am down to 15mg on the mirt and still on 200mg pregabalin...go away in a weeks time so waiting until I return before reducing further and hopefully coming off the mirt...we shall see.
Glad you doing well...keep it up...
Take care
Jo.xx
Hi Jo and everyone,
How have you been doing? I'm doing alright, I'm at college 3 days aweek, I'm getting a little of pressure from my dad and sister, other than that I alright, just though I pop in and say hi, miss you all. hope you have a good day today.
Yvonne :hugs:
Hello Yvonne,
Lovely of you to pop in, havent got round to emailing you yet but will do. Am doing good too at the moment just hoping it will continue.
Glad you are well. Miss you too.
Take care.
Jo.xx
Hi Jt how are you? hope your doing ok. ? Have you been away yet? hope you have had a nice time. i am doing ok on week two of the increased dosage of venlafaxine so not sure i am getting the full benefits just yet. A lot of feeling down has gone but still feeling anxious and having intrusive thoughts but nothing like a couple of months ago. Just need to accept that it will take a long time to settle down fully and not get too stressed if i have bad days. Hope everyone is feeling better :shrug:
Hi pmrob,
Go away Saturday.....am looking forward to the break and just hoping the anxiety stays away...it often decides to rear its head when I go away...wierd!!!
Glad you doing well...yes these things do take their time but you will get there.
Take care.
Jo.xx
yvonne_uk_98
09-10-10, 02:07
Hi Jo,
how are you? I'm back having an other blip, things were going alright, until a few things happened at college, took me a good few days to sort out, though affecting me emotionally, then when I got home from college yesterday, my sister phones me to let me know that my dad was complaing about me not going to see him since Saturday and my dad saying very bad thing to me, it was not until later on that I remember I had been to see my dad on the Tuesday which my dad forgot about, he also forgot that I phoned him on the Tuesday evening. I did not get an apology. from my dad. other than that I'm alright, just a bit emotional. I felt worthless earlier today, I came on here at the trazdone and created a new thread there.
hope you have a great weekend.
love
Yvonne :hugs:
Hi Yvonne,
Sorry to hear that you are not feeling too good again!! This illness eh?? It just rears its head when we feel we are over it!!
You certainly have alot to deal with in your life and it cant be easy...you have alot of responsibility with your Dad etc and I think it all takes its toll on you.
Please dont feel worthless....you do so much for so many people...is it really that bad that you do something for yourself....you deserve some me time and should not feel guilty when you do something for yourself. Sometimes people take us for granted and actually forget how much we do for them. Your Dad probably feels awful now, and that is how it should be as you devote alot of time to him...he knows that down inside just forgets sometimes.
I am glad you are around again...have missed you on the forum.
I have just had another blip which I hope has now gone again. I went to Cornwall for a week and though most of it was great I find the anxiety comes when I do something different. The going away upsets my system a bit and I take time to settle when going away both going and then coming back....this week has been awful. Thursday I felt I was heading back to square one and ended up in a right state...fortunately that seems to have been the worse day and the last 2 I feel alot better...fingers crossed. I have my 6th session of counselling on Wednesday...that has helped me too.
I do hope you feel better soon.
Take care.
JO.xx
Hey there
i am a newbie, but have been reading these threads for a few weeks and feel like i know you girls now!!! Hello Jo and EJ, you are not alone i feel exactly like you do!!!! Be so nice to hear back from you. Have been taking Mirtazapine for 3 weeks now, been feeling soooo dreadful but my doc says to keep going! I can relate to all you say, Anxiousness, jelly legs, racing heart the lot!!! Still feelin very tearful too. I push myself like you girls, have been for walk in the park today and felt so anxious, but got there in the end! Going for a swim soon, refuse to give in! My real problem is sleep, has been so bad over last few months i have felt sooo exhausted, and although initially, helped me sleep, the drowsiness has worn off now, and i take zopiclone at night to sleep!! Constant merry go round this!!
Hope to chat to you girls soon
Lori xxxxx
yvonne_uk_98
10-10-10, 00:24
Hi Yvonne,
Sorry to hear that you are not feeling too good again!! This illness eh?? It just rears its head when we feel we are over it!!
You certainly have alot to deal with in your life and it cant be easy...you have alot of responsibility with your Dad etc and I think it all takes its toll on you.
Please dont feel worthless....you do so much for so many people...is it really that bad that you do something for yourself....you deserve some me time and should not feel guilty when you do something for yourself. Sometimes people take us for granted and actually forget how much we do for them. Your Dad probably feels awful now, and that is how it should be as you devote alot of time to him...he knows that down inside just forgets sometimes.
I am glad you are around again...have missed you on the forum.
I have just had another blip which I hope has now gone again. I went to Cornwall for a week and though most of it was great I find the anxiety comes when I do something different. The going away upsets my system a bit and I take time to settle when going away both going and then coming back....this week has been awful. Thursday I felt I was heading back to square one and ended up in a right state...fortunately that seems to have been the worse day and the last 2 I feel alot better...fingers crossed. I have my 6th session of counselling on Wednesday...that has helped me too.
I do hope you feel better soon.
Take care.
JO.xx
Hi Jo,
Thank you for your kind words, very much appreciated, thanks. Sorry to hear your were not doing too good, glad to hear your feeling a lot better, I hope you keep well. :hugs:
I feel a little better today, I was at my dad's today, I was hoping that he would not bring up what he had says, my dad asked me if I had received a call from my sister, I says yes I did, then he asked me what did she say to you, I says not much, (I'm trying to avoid talking about what he had says about wishing and praying that a bomb would drop on me.) Praise Father God my dad did not mention it. I still get a bit emotional.
I spent time with my dad, then I came home.
Yvonne:hugs:
Hi Lori,
Welcome to NMP!! Glad you found the site...it helped me so much...and now I always come on here to support others if nothing else.
You describe it so well...not an easy ride but you will get there...took me some time and I am not out of the woods yet (in fact I dont think I will ever be anxiety free) but we learn how to cope with it and hope.
Take care
Jo.xx
Oh bless you Jo thanks...this site is great. Yeah have been reading back on your posts for a while now, poor you...Like us all, you have suffered, let's hope we all feel better soon, it's a constant up hill struggle! really hope you have a good week!
Love Lori x
Hi JT, joro and lori. Its been a long time since posting on here. I hope your all doing well. It is now four weeks since my venlafaxine was increased to 150mg/day and i believe it is helping with the depression and the anxiety but very very slowly. I have had recently five days in a row with no low mood and no anxiety or anxious thoughts, and this was fantastic i felt altogether human again, but it hasnt lasted and the low mood and anxious thoughts have slowly crept back in albeit a lot less prominent than a month or two ago. I take each day one at a time and hopefuklly things will return to normal eventually. Please let me know how your all doing i have read the posts and say welcome to lori and keep up with your posts as there are a lot of people who can relate to you and do understand and empathise with you. Well i hope to hear from you all soon, look after yourselves ttfn:bighug1:paul
Hi pmrob,
Nice to hear from you...sorry you a bit up and down...I think this is normal though and this illness takes time to fade away, as time goes by we get stronger and the good times become more and the bad ones less...thats how I feel happens anyhow.
I have just come out of another blip myself...wierdly it was going on holiday that set me back...I was ok once I got there even though the anxiety was bad in the mornings but when I came back was awful and have only just settled down again!!! Just goes to show we can never count our chickens and I think we just have to be grateful for the good days when they come.
Take care
JO.xx
ElizabethJane
12-10-10, 17:48
Hi Jo Hi Paul. I'm glad that you are still posting. I hope that you had a good birthday Jo. I am still on 45mg mirtazapine and 1,000mg lithium and currently stable woo hoo!! I am also trying to lose weight and so far have lost 6lbs. I did experience bad headaches when I started. Sorry Jo about the anxiety. Are you still taking the pregabalin/mirtazapine? Take care EJ.
Hello and thank you Paul! Yes i will keep the posts up, i love to read them, makes me feel i am not alone. It's strange how you have good days and bad days isn't it, you would think if you felt good then the tabs were working and you would stay feeling well, but not the case for you, Paul and Jo???
Can't understand it. Well i have been on 15ml of Mirt for exactly 4 weeks now, i think my mood has lifted, although i have waves of 'tearfulness' come over me. Hopefully my sleep will kick in soon, the main thing i went on them. Jo, i rememember i think, you saying that when you go out you have had a couple of glasses of wine? I am supposed to be going out Friday night and wondered if i could drink? I still feel dizzy though, really hope this will wear off, as i am not sure if i can hack this otherwise!!! The drowsiness has worn off now, thats why i have to take zopiclone to sleep! I have a numb feeling in my lips/tounge, hope that wears off!!!! Oh dear what we have to put up with!!
Would love to hear from you, take care all:blush:
Lori x
ElizabethJane
12-10-10, 22:03
Hi Lori I'm sorry that you are struggling on 15mg. It will take a lot longer than a month to feel well from this dreadful illness. Do you go back to your GP for a review? He might want to up the dose especially if you are not feeling any improvement? It is still very early days for you I know that Jo has said that a couple of drinks will be ok with the mirt but as you have only been taking it for a month and needing zopiclone as well to sleep then alcoholic drink is a no no. Sorry but until your sleep is well established without drugs and your mood more stable then I woiuld not recommend it at all. Your bodies repsonse to the drug will increase and I expect that you will feel dreadful in the morning. You can drink but I would leave it a few months until you can decide your bodies resopnse to the drug and it does not leave you too drowsy and giddy the next day. I can manage one glass of wine and that is before I have had my meds. Never consider driving. Sorry if this seems a little harsh. EJ.
Yvonne - THE OH SO STRONG PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD - you will get through this. You are having a helluva time of it at the moment. You will get through this, without a doubt. You are MUCH stronger than you give yourself credit for. No matter what life throws at you, you will just pick yourself up and dust yourself down again!! It's the only way and you've done it so many times and WILL DO IT AGAIN!! X
ElizabethJane
12-10-10, 22:17
Sorry Maj but it was the lovely Jo who started this thread in the mirtazapine section. I beleive that Yvonne started a similar one elsewhere on the forum. EJ.
Aaw, was sure it was Yvonne. Never mind, Yvonne, I still salute you and admire you so much. You make all our troubles pale into insignificance x
ElizabethJane
13-10-10, 06:45
Nope Yvonne's is in 'Trazodone'. EJ
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