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Hiya all
I have read every post ,i have avoided caffine,and i have tried my best to get my head around eptopic beats.. but i just cant they actually make me sick, does any one get some dizzyness with this too,as i do.. i have had ecg's as i have said be4 but they never show then.. what am i going to do, it scares me constantleyand what with all my other symptoms to contend with i cant stand it anymore, i can get them every 4 mins throughout the whole day and the last two nights they have actually woke me up.. im sure therer has to be something wrong.
Occassionally i get a few pains in my chest and back.. my hearts filps, spins, shudders, does one big pause and then beats fast( eptopic) it just dosnt have any control atall. it just goes mental.. this just cant be ok to have.... there has to be a problem... coz this isnt normal...im scared and i cant live like this... with everything else... i tell you i will end it all if things dont change soon, because i am in constant physical and emotional pain... i hate myself, i hate the way i look, i cant stand this people anymore...
I did go to church this morning , didnt relsie that the church near me was a christain church full of praise and uplifting music.. im so pleased for that, and will attend now every sunday... because i do belive.. so im hoping god will help me, i have these tablets citalopram here sittting looking at me still, still dont know weather to take them..im scared it will cause low blood pressure /or make me panic /or give me depression worse, because im bad enough already.
i just dont know freinds... wheres trev these days i havnt seen him for ages, he was a gem..
ashx
Funny you should mention me..........I'm just back from being on holiday.
Ashley, I can only say what I've said before really. You have to try and relax in every way. IT WILL TAKE TIME EVEN THEN. The body does not just switch straight off. TRY and do things that take your mind off of your condition. And give it time.........even months.
Cheers,
Trev :D
Hi Ash,
Yeah Trev is a little gem when he's not skiing, yoga-ing and aqua-robing all in his leopard skin leotard :D:D:D
Trev expect to hear about the recent hols when you get chance and hope you had a lovely time hun.
Now Ash about these flippin mad heart happenings - you have been to your doc recently and they aren't worried that in itself is very reassuring.
A couple of weeks ago I had them again and really didn't like them but I read over old posts on here and realised they were just the same as everybody elses and I had had them this time last year too.
I still don't like them but because I have got on and kept myself busy they have calmed right down again - now this week I am only getting them a couple of times a day rather than lots of times a day.
Something that has helped me recently is doing the muscle relaxation cd that I bought from NOpanic (the charity) that I am doing my telephone anxiety course with. I have got quite a few relaxation tapes that all help but this is a good one in that you physically have to tighten each muscle group in turn and then release. This is working well for me at the moment but they do stress even when we feel good we should still make time to do these sorts of tapes reguluarly!!!!!!
Is it worth you getting this cd - reducing your anxiety levels in general will certainly help with the heart stuff :D:D
Love Piglet xx
"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.
ash
please i want no more talk of ending it all. you have your kids and your own life to think off. no more do you here me ash. both marc and i are sooo worried you are a great friend and when we are bad you console us as you did for me yesterday.
have you ever ahd a 24 hour tape. please listen to me. i do not ask you this because i think you have a heart problem because i know you do not. i ask you this only because the 24 hour tape will show up these ectopics through out your day and then your doc will see them he will then get a copy of the result from the hospital that will confirm that you are getting these eratic beats but that they are noy=thing to worry about.
yuor gp can refere you to get one of these done and if you are fortunate to know someone in the hospital or have a good relationship with yuor gp get him to try to get it fast
does this help.
no talk of ending it again ash i am gonna be so mad at yuo for this because as bad as it is life is for living, dont ever think that the alternative will be better
jackie
Yo trev..
You alright trev ..hows it going with you ..hope you had a nice hoilday..but im glad ya back lol...actually that wa well freaky coz you like disapeared and then i put a post on saying..wheres trev and then from no-where you appeared.. funny.. i know trev what your saying is right... but easyier said than done isnt it huh.. i do try but sometimes they are just to to nasty and i freak...
Piglet thanx for your words of definite wisdom in the heart region,i just cant stand them i could have at least 150-200 of them at the least in one day.. is that really normal mate?i tell ya i never knew this side of anxiety... boy i have had it bad over the years but never to this level,,, but i went through so much last year.
I suffer with anxiety and depression to the max..and i get despartley depressed.. like i want to die depressed... i cant understand the fact i am scared of all these nasty symptoms i get, and always live in fear of something killing me and then on the other hand.. i get desparate and cant stand the pain anymore and want to end it... its mad.. and so awful
I have these tablets but i just dont weather to take them.. citalpram..i have a tablet phobia like alot of people...
im scared so much every day, i just find life hard now..i want to be happy and yet i feel so so sad.
ash x
jak..
sorry mate.. i dont want to of course i dont.. but i am just into far to much pain ... and it hurts mate ya know..sorry jackie..
The doctor did make a referral for an appointment at the hospital regarding my heart,but ya know this takes time..i hope i have time.
Im just so down an all jacks and im clutching at that straw and this straw..and im weak of it all.. 20 f***ing years of fears, i have had it.. and this time round well its done it for me... im sorry to be so dam negitive.. but negitive is all i have ever known,,, i think if a positive turned around and hit me in the face...i would properley then have such a shock i would have a friggin heart attack then...
love ya
ashley x
lol, i dont think so
please remember what you went through last year. yes you feel youve always had too many fears and that these symptoms have blown you away. i understand that and you know i do.
but please recall yuor life last year and what you were put through with your kids. not what you did but what you were put through. ash this was huge please dont underestimate what you been through and give your body time to get this out of its system before it heals. it needs time, trev says that and he is right
jackie
Oh you advanced members know it all dont ya hahaha lol lol
Jackie where would i be without you ---and marc and everyone that surports me on here,im so glad i found you guys.. coz i couldnt do this alone..my family bless them havnt got a friggin clue ya know..
Thanx for everyone surporting me..and if anyone has any advice i always gladley listen ..
loves ya all
ashx
If anyone has any more help on eptopics.. and wants to share thier experince with me please do as it helps... well for a few mins..
thanx
ash x
ash have you looked at the section in " welcome to nomorepanic " by claire entitled " common posts " or words to that effect. it has all the lovely ectopics experience that helps. and i know that marc has told you her horrible experience of them which must help. did marc tell you about the one off thing that she was given by the homeopath person and how much it helped her ectopics? did you enquire.
any way hun it is your fear of them that keeps them coming at such force and you know it
am i an advanced member? dont know whether that is good or bad, just means i whine more than the rest of you .lol
jackie
jacks lol at least you make me laf...
Oh god yes marc has helpe me so much with her talks of eptopic beats..missed beats.. and funky beats she certinley knows her beats,, that girl does.. and i kinda sometimes except it wont harm me ..but bloddy hell man.. i cant stand them.. they are nasty with a cap N.
I am just finding them hard to deal with jaq right now because i have them all day, weather i think about them or not...they are clever though because ..if i dont think about them they go to the sub-concious part in my brain pull a drawer out and THEY SAY HAY YOU LITTLE FU***R we know you still are scared , you see we found you... and thats how them work..
jac thanx love
ash x
hi ash
i am also having a bad day with eptopics i feel reaaly scared !
i went out last night and when i went to bed they started it wasent just one they were a few all at once and they wouldent stop i ended up dawn stairs all night and fell assleep at about 6 this morning i am still getting them today realy bad and dread tonight i have kept the pms you sent me about them i keep reading them and it makes me feel better i do feel like you i often think about ending it all it helps when i feel like that to come on this site and just read through posts then i feel much better .
anyway i do hope you start to feel a bit better soon and thank you so much for those posts when i first came hear they help loads
jo x
Dear jodie
hiya babe, i feel for you babe..it isnt easy is it..i hate them oh so much ..its too scary isnt it.
I had them so bad last night that i was awake on and off all night(and to top it all my eletric went out, and thats ones of my biggest fears darkness) and i was in complete darkness sh*itIng myself, should of got a cab to your house shouldnt i lol.
Its not nice though babe, i know exactley how you are feeling,and i get so many one after each other like that too... keep reading my posts love..and pm me when ever you need to infact i will pm you my msn and we can always have a chat on there at times..ok sweetheart.
im here for you,
ash x
Hi Ash,
I was only on for a minute earlier so the post was quick.
I don't know your story at all but we all arrive at this anxiety lark via different routes. It sounds to me like you should push hard for some councelling via the GP especially if you are feeling suicidal. There are also the MIND courses again via the GP which I found helpful personally.
However, the end physical results are generally the same. A combination of known bodily reactions to stress. I know how hard it is to live with these ectopics and the other symptoms but what I did was carry around books and cd's that explained them and whenever I freaked I would read or listen to them. Very gradually it sank in. When you are in a state such as you are in, it is difficult to hold onto any positive things for even a second. Your mind seems to squeeze the positive out like a vice.
Stick with it.
Print off some of the stuff from this site and carry it around with you for when you need reassurance. There's lots on ectopics.
Again I can only say what I did which was basically :
1) Walked every day outside
2) Read as much as possible about it all
3) Improved diet
4) Took good multivitamin every day
5) For some reason had a craving for bananas (???? maybe I'm related to a chimp? :D)
6) Relaxation where possible
7) Exercise
8) Started trying to play the guitar!! (Takes your mind off of the nasty feelings to some degree........but find something you like to do and do it)
9) Cut out all stimulants
Good luck and give it time.
Cheers,
Trev :D
Dearest Trev,
What can i say, you see im right you truley are a gem, thankyou for the time and effort that you put into my posts , i love them and admire your advice actually ..
Cutting a long story extremley short ....I also was an anxious child and grew up a little bit like this, as my dad was a bully when i was young i love him and i am sorry to say this, because he is an exxellent dad, but extremley strict and i was scared of him...as i grew up i just followed a pattern of abusive relasionship,and men that treated me like sh*t and threw me aside..i allowed his..why i do not know.
But the icing on the cake was my last relationship of two years..and in it i was drowned, strangled, and basically beaten the hell out of every weekend or when he had a drink... he was a phycio and a black belt in taekwondo..imagine.. i hate him.. he ended up in prison for the last beating as i couldnt hide what he did to me and the police dragged him away....my face was like the elephant man...and my poor daughter witnessed this one, i cant tell you how i feel ... ful of negitive because thats all that happens top me in life...and guilt for my kids pure hell guilt..
Thats just a mere piece of my life, theres so much more pain..ive been in a refuge not one, but humilatingly twice trev.. twice and yet im not a bad person..im actually kind.. i dont know what i have ever done.
sorry for saying this ...i just had to hide this for so long and never tell anyone... but i want to say how scared i was... how i used to have to leave doors open before he came home from the pub, so that when he came to attack me i could run outside at least... no one knows how scared i was.
Trev sorry for saying all that, but i couldnt help it.. im tired now.
ashx
Hi Ashley,
I'm sorry to hear about the horrible events you have had to deal with.
I'm not a councellor. I'm just somebody who has been down the chronic anxiety route. I would strongly suggest that you ask your GP to refer you for councelling if you have not already been down this route. You can then open up completely with all of your story in complete confidence. I know of people who have been down this route and it has worked well. Sometimes they feel a bit worse at first but then they get better as it all comes out and gets addressed.
All I would say is that is important to realise that you are not a bad person. In fact, the professor at the anxiety conference in London said that it tends to only affect nice people!! :D That's one to spark a debate, but that's what he said.
Living in fear of aggression is a horrible way to live. It's no wonder you are so anxious right now. All of the pent up fear you had at the time is probably all coming out now that the aggressor is inside. As I said, I would suggest you get reffered by the GP for councelling with all of this.
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The other areas that get erroded are your self esteem and your confidence. These are very important and not to be under estimated in my opinion. The GP can refer you onto MIND courses for Self Esteem and Confidence Building. These can be vey helpful. They will also deal with assertiveness which is another area that may be really helpful for you.
You don't need to apologise for saying that stuff if it makes you feel better but do look at the councelling route.
There is simply no excuse for the violence that was waged against you. It is not your fault and a professional would be a great help I think.
Try and get the councelling and the courses if you want to. Stick with all of the other stuff and give it all time.
I was very lucky in that I had alot of support around me and alot of flexibility at work. It sounds like you have it alot harder than I did but the way to deal with it is always basically the same.
Stick with it and remember one vital point. IT IS ONLY YOU THAT CAN HEAL YOURSELF. OTHERS CAN HELP AND POINT THE WAY BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CONTROL. USE THE SUPPORT OF OTHERS WHEN YOU NEED TO BUT REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL CURE YOU.
Cheers,
Trev :D
Trev
I am actually on the waiting list for counselling wth mind, but theres up to a 3 month waiting list ..i really need that now.
Trev i love your advice and no maybe you arnt a counsellor but ..you talk with sense and i like that,it does actually help..your words of wisdom goes far and i do appriecate it,truley i do..if ever ya need a chat yourself please ..let me know.
I started taking citralopram yesterday , side effects not great but after months of looking at a box i have managed to rather quickly put one in my mouth and swollow it..i have no choice i have to try every avenue before throwing the towel in,, i have felt near to ended it all latley and i dont like that feeling,so thats why i thought i had to try the tablets in my final qwest of hope.
Its not easy but trev i really am trying, coming on here listening to people like you... and all my other friends and family jack,and marc it helps me, as i have no-one in my world to talk with.
thanx again with love
ashley
P.s did ya have a good hoilday trev, tell us all about it in a post go on...trevs adventures..
Glad to hear you are on the waiting list. Don't be afraid to ask them if anybody has dropped out. Spaces may come available and if you are persistant you could get in a bit earlier.
In the meantime you could maybe get some books on self esteem from the library? I found some good books at our library on Panic Attacks when I first started out. The more you can educate yourself on all of this stuff the better I reckon.
I know of a friend who has recently started on citralopram. I don't know much about it but it seems to have really helped her. Good for you for taking the decision to take it. I know how much you can get worked up about taking tablets when you are so anxious. Relax and give it time. I'm sure you'll be ok with it. It seems a fairly common one to take.
Glad you have found some friends on here to help you through. Do remember though that YOU have to make the steps necessary. I'm not meaning this in a harsh way but ultimately YOU are the only one that can make the changes happen. Use the advice of others but do take time away from here to try and do things that take your mind off of things and that you enjoy doing. It's a balance between getting reassurance here but not over dwelling on your situation. This balance can be difficult to achieve but do try and get some good times in the "real" world.
I had a great holiday thanks. I don't know about starting another thread about it though as people will be getting sick of me enjoying myself!! [:I]:D
Stick with it and use the time on these new tablets to good effect.
Cheers,
Trev :D
hI Ash
I've been reading your post you are havin a bad time of it here's a (((((BIG HUG))))) for you.
I thought my ectopics had gone as i hadn't had them for a few days but lately i've been getting them every day, even though i've been to the doc's and have been told by him they are not harmful you just can't stop worring about them.
I've come to the conclusion now that i'm never going to be rid of them, it's just coping with them the best way.
I know you have had all the advice you can get on how to cope with these but try and focus away from them, do things to get your mind of it and try not to make yourself ill over them.
you take care
linda xx
BritishBeef
11-04-06, 20:57
Hi Ashley,
I have suffered from Ectopic beats for the last 5 years. When they are at their worst they happen every 10-20 seconds or so for as much as 12 hours at a time!! I aslo often get chest pain at the same time and also feel lightheaded and dizzy. I even regularly get pain down my left arm at the same time so you can imagine the fear that has caused.
I too worried myself to death about them. I have been tested thoroughly and been told that they are nothing to worry about. I know that's easier said than done but I really now don't worry about them anymore.
I'm having therapy for my Health Anxiety and my therapist asked me to try something out. When I'm worrying about my heart I should do something that stresses the heart to prove that my heart really is strong and I'm not going to have a heart attack etc. So a couple of times when I was really worrying about my ectopic beats I followed this advice and jumped onto the excercise machine we've got and had a quick work out. I didn't die! My heart was beating faster obviously but I didn't have a heart attack! It's a way of proving that there is nothing seriously wrong.
The other thing I've noticed, is that with my ectopics, there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why I have episodes. I don't have any caffeine and try to avoid chocolate. I drink alcohol occasionally, although I often get ectopics the following day as a result. One thing I've learnt is that the ectopic episodes always go away for long periods in between bouts.
I guess I've learnt to live with them. Yes they are awful to experience and they can be a little debilitating but I've finally accepted the fact that it's a common complaint and it's benign and I think that's half the battle.
Dearest
linda(hay girl..long time) & british beef..thankyou so so much for your replys ..boy it certinley helps me when i read that so many people suffer with this with or sometimes without anxiety.
After having anxiety for 20 odd years i couldnt belive it when i first got eptopic beats, flutters. thuds and alsorts of wierd and not wonderful beats.. can you imagine never having them in all your years of anxiety and then getting them--i freaked especially in the beginning ..oh my god..3 months with them have gone past now and i have to say i still hate them with a passion, and just dont know how to accept something so dam nasty.
Thankyou for what you both wrote any piece of information of them really helps me and the more i see people posting and saying about thier experinces that they have had with them the more i get to grips..well a little lol.
This is just one of my many thousand symptoms but by far the worst ..
linda & bb thanx and everyone..please keep posting
love ashley x
Remember Ashley, ectopics = scared = ectopics = scared = ectopics = scared = ectopics = scared = ectopics = scared = ectopics and on it goes in a big circle.
Try and work on breaking the circle by giving them less importance. As BB says you have to start trying to believe you are ok. As you start to believe you are ok the fear drops a bit. I started by saying, "well it happened yesterday and I'm still here, so what's changed? Nothing. I should be ok this time then"
I know how hard it is to put this in practice and how easy and simple it sounds but you can do it. And it takes time.
Ashley - some good self-esteem cd's are by Glenn Harrold and you can get them off Amazon. Have a look hun as there a lot of reviews on them.
Love Piglet
"Supposing a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?" said Piglet.
"Supposing it didn't," said Pooh after careful thought.
Trev seriously i dont know what i would do without your continued surport that you have given me ..your such a star and i will never forget it..thankyou..it helps me even if its for a few hours..i love ya for it..
I was in control of myself a few years ago trev, i was a girl full of the sparks of life, i just want that back trev .. im trying.
As you know i started taking citrolpram( spell check) 10mg for first week up to 20 mg next week..anyway they give me raised panic, aggitated, hypo, headaches, and extrem drowsyness.. but i have to carry these on..its important i do now i have started, so im trying to be brave,, as this is my last hope.
Havnt had eptopics for a day yipeeee, thats something isnt it, so as you have said before trev now is the time to put actions into words and do all the things that will help me in my progress to recovery(im trying its so hard babes)
Piglet thanx for being kind and replying to my posts it truley helps me you being around as you so know what it is like with these nasty eptopic and funky wierd heartbeats.
Also piglet i will go have a look at amazon and see what those cd's are about , its about self-help isnt that right trev,[Yes!] and deep down i know that.
Thank you ,you beautiful people.[8D]
ashley x with all my love
Hi ash,
Been away for a couple of weeks; just tryingto keep myself busy and not staring at this bloody screen all day! Was reading this thread and as always I totally have been thru the same as you; bullying stepdad, Relationships with a***holes and domestic violence plus the suicide os stepdad and father of my son. I like you cant imagine that anyones ectopics are as bad as mine. I get HUNDREDS per day and some of them can last 40 mins NON STOP! They're bad again lately. Was in casualty at 6 am the other week as i had rapid fluttering for nearly an hour and do you know what; they stopped almost as soon as they hooked me up to the ecg; Bloody sods law! Had an excercise ecg on monday and guess what- yep didn't have one!! The pains in your back and chest are muscular pains. I get them all the time, I promise you.
Are you coming down to the meeting on may 7th, I think it would do you good. It would be cool meeting others going thru the same- it'll really help I'm sure. Anyway mate, don't let the b*****ds get you down,
Siobhan
Glad to be of use and good to know it helps you. You can get back to your "old self", just got to be patient and work on the things that will help to get there. Try not to worry about getting back to your old self. It will come in time. :D
Be patient as well with the meds. I've heard they can make you more panic prone before they kick in and work. Accept that's how it is and wait.
Remember, above all, YOU are the one who can deal with all of this. Others can help and give encouragement but do try and put the things in place that you can manage.
I'm no councellor, as I said before. From the little I know of your background I'd suggest the best way to deal with this stuff is to work it through with a professional in a structured environment. I hope that you get your appointment soon.
Either way, as Claire Weekes says, current sensitisation still remains to be cured and this can be done in the ways already suggested.
Do you have a chance to actively try and relax each day?
Cheers,
Trev :D
hiya shiv.. regards trev
I came on here the other day read both ya posts and thought ok .. so lets reply ..i sat there wrote a lengthy piece for you kind people to read and i clicked on post new reply and it took ages to go through, the timing and so i lost all my post.. i just couldnt sit there at that point and write i all again , especially as that day i felt vey slow and confused (you know when even typing is hard to do)..ohh that pi**ed me right of..never mind.
So shiv thanx for the reply thats rather nice of you, and it so gud to see many people relpying to this eptopic thread as the more i see post me, the more it does help..its not easy but yeah it helps.
I have had 5 days without eptopics ( and she touches wood) and man that has given me the break i need especially as i have stared taking medication.. i dont need them to come along right now,it wil, freak me out so badley as the tablets has made my anxiety /panic/and depression mental x100.. so they need to keep well away .. please mary god for now.
Eptopic beats are so crueland frightening and i really dont like them , who would after all... shiv i have had flutterings all day sometimes right up to the point of bedtime .. so i know how you feel and you know how i feel.
lets hope those eptopic beats stay away with everything else going on with me, my head and my body .. they wont help..
love ya all
ashley x
MasterJPK69
31-12-06, 06:58
Hello people i am new to this anxiety stuff. I have been dealing with it for four months and i am starting to wonder if it will ever go away. Have had stress test done and ekg and they say they are all good.I dont know if i should get a second opinion or not. i do know i just want to get rid of these attachs.I just cant take it any more and i have only had it for four months. Anyone know what i can to to at least try to relax or something. My day is constantley stressful i have three kids to care for and i feel like pulling my hair out with them. On top of that i am always worried about having a heart attach i am always worried and scared dont know what to do!!!!!!!!!! Some times i feel as if i may be loosing my mind or something. Everyone i know just tells me to deal with it and move on but i dont know how! I hate to say it but i ahve tought about getting it over wiht but that is now what i want. I just want to get Better.
Hi Ashley
I recently started having ectopic episodes and they frightened the living daylights out of me.Had to have the paramedics out the first time it happened but nothing was wrong.It carried on and still does now but not to much. I read on here somewhere that someone took tablets for stomach acid called Pariet (prescription only) because there doctor said it can all be connected.I went to see my gp and she agreed with me and put me on them to.I have to say they seem to have helped cause i was getting loads of ectopics and dont get many at all now.It might be worth having a word with your gp.This damn anxiety has alot to answer for, it can make you feel so damn bad. I have had a year of feeling panicky and anxious just when it stated to ease off it then came back again.Lulls you into a false sense of security.Ive started to feel ok since the new year, but im still wary cause it might just come and hit me straight in the face again.Sorry i do tend to waffle sometimes. I hope this may have been of some use to you.
Take care
Love Julie xxx
Ello,
Had these since i was 19 (12 years) on and off. I can go several days without anything noticable, and then I get a particularily uncomfortable missed beat and it frightens me, I then focus on them and guess what they happen all the more! I could not have drunk or had caffine nicotine - the main cause is wether ot not im monitoring them or not. Ive just had about 20 or so in the last 10 minutes - grouped 5 at a time.
The best way I have found of dealing with them is A - breathing through stomach - stomach gases and hyperventillation cause them. and B - if I jog on the spot and increase my heart rate slighly they tend to go or settle for a while.
The strength of your reaction to them will depend on how stressed or anxious you are at that particular time. They are here to stay but remember your heart is your friend and not your enemy - let him do his job if if he tends to be a bit sloppy at times.
For anyone suffering with tese horrible missed beats / flutters please go to this site it really helps There is also a doctor who will answer posts on there carol x:D http://rlr.qersys.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl
elizabethkiwi
19-11-09, 03:30
I've often checked into this site, it's excellent for letting us know that most of the time we've got nothing to worry about, so many people have the same problem. I've suffered with eptopic beats for ages, and although I know they are benign( I've been checked out) I still get anxious and just hate it when I get that "thump", not as bad as a lot of people but still several times a day. I read somewhere that lack of Magnesium and Potassium could have an influence on this, so I upped my intake of both, particularly Magnesium. I take a calcium pill which contains 250mg of mag and another vitamin pill which has 200mg of magnesium (no calcium in that pill)....I'm thrilled to report that my eptopic beats have decreased and that I now have maybe one a day, usually in the morning before I have taken my pills....
I'm not saying this will help everyone, but my goodness, so many people are anxious about this condition, why not try it. Brazil nuts, a couple a day, will also up your Selenium and contain a little Magnesium, it all helps. Good luck folks......
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