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my brother has left the hospital (mental health ward) and has been missing for 5 hours with the police searching for him. he has no money so cant get home, cant get on a train as they have barriers at the one near him. his seeing/hearing things. He hasnt got the best road sense in the world- im really worried for him. sorry for the rant but i need him to be ok.
I'm so sorry to hear that Em.ma...
Try not to think about the worst scenario in this. The police are pretty good at locating missing people, particularly those that leave a hospital or other medical facility.
Try to stay positive and amongst family so you can support each other.xxx:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
Thank you. My heart is racing (my family are my whole entire life- without them id be lost and i couldnt cope)
Anyway they located him on camera in the hospital grounds at about 10am- so who knows were he is now. They have the helicopter up in the sky. My mum has just gone up to the hospital (shes been in tears all morning) and im here with my dad at the moment xx
Bless you....:hugs:
Well it sounds like they are using all they have to search for him hun. I am glad you are not alone there as that is the worst thing.
Keep us posted as to how things are going.
Big hug to you.xx:bighug1:
Thank youx everytime the phone goes i jump up- just want them to say his safe. Police just phoned again asking if his come home- dad told them he really cant say how he can go 20 miles without nothing on him.
hoping and preying for you and your family, hoping that your brother is soon found safe and well
thats meant to be "see" not "say"
hoping and preying for you and your family, hoping that your brother is soon found safe and well
:hugs:Thank you. I hope so to :) x
Just had a phone call from Police- his been found :D. cant describe how relieved and happy i am at the moment. just feel really shaky now though x
Oh BRILLIANT news Em.ma.....very relieved for you.x:yesyes:
Oh BRILLIANT news Em.ma.....very relieved for you.x:yesyes:
Thank you so much. I knew straight away when my dads face practically lit up on the phone that he had been found :).
M155anthr0p3
12-08-11, 16:56
Hi Em.ma,
How stressful for you & your family.
So glad to hear he has been found now!!
Hope you have a nice stress-free weekend.
Emily xxx
so glad he has been found Emma !
Thank you everyone. It was very scary at first i had to try to think "what are the chances his been hit by a car or someone has done something to him". Once i started think "he will be ok" i managed to calm down. Very glad his safe although i dont like him being in the hospital now anymore. it happened once- they found him in the hospital grounds a few months back. Mums in a right state still but im sure she'll be ok- at least she had some dinenr today which is something
Emma x
I'm finding it very hard to come to terms with what happened. I do not trust the hospital. Who lets a kid get out like that? he has to come past reception to you think they would tell the reciopnists to watch for kids coming out. theres only about 7 there and none are aloud out and he just wondered past about 10 adults to get out. Im supposed to be able to trust people to look after him for us and now i dont know if its in his interets to be up there at all.
I'm glad your brother is ok Emma. Your parents need to ask the hosp what they intend to do in terms of looking at their procedures to make sure this doesn't happen again xx
eight days a week
12-08-11, 23:07
Glad he's OK :)
I'm glad your brother is ok Emma. Your parents need to ask the hosp what they intend to do in terms of looking at their procedures to make sure this doesn't happen again xx
I agree entirely.
thanks. my mum said the police have spoken to the hopsital about this and she will to when the next meeting is x:) happy that the police have spoke to them x:)
my mum has also had 20 cigs today and i cant look at her without thinking has she got cancer- she has to live and im afraid the stress of this will damage her heart :( or she will get cancer. Shes distraught- has been for 4 months. I know we havnt seen always seen eye to eye but shes my mother and i love her to death and i know she does us aswell. if anything ever happened to her i couldnt live with my self.
Try to keep calm Emma, you've had a horrible, traumatic, stressful day. Try to focus on the fact your brother is safe and well and take some deep breaths. You also really need to get some with your anxiety if you aren't already (sorry I can't remember if you are) :hugs:
sorry for bumping but his gone missing again. been 30 mins :( i cant not fear the worst i feel shaky and panicky. the police and my parents have spoke to the unit the last time it happened. how can they let this happen?
its going to get dark soon to :(
I am absoulety disgusted by the hospital. yes its not a prsion BUT they have go through reception and the people out there should be made aware of certain children that if they go through there they must be stopped. they only have about 10 kids there at the moment
Yes it is disgusting Emma ..:lac: Im sure he will be found like the other times ..Try to stay calm ...:hugs:luv Sue x
Yes it is disgusting Emma ..:lac: Im sure he will be found like the other times ..Try to stay calm ...:hugs:luv Sue x
Thank you. My mothers just left work come home and is in tears :(. I can't say i blame her.. shes always been over protective about us but she does it because she cares. shes driving up there now. :\ trying my best to stay calm . i dont know i feel angry and anxious and worried at the same time. :hugs: x
what if his in the wrong place at the wrong time :(. if a fast car comes past and he doesnt see it. this would DESTORY my family to bits. we couldnt cope. it would crush my dad and mum to pieces
its getting dark to
Emma ..........sorry to hear this ...............the police will be out looking for him and they found him last time .............so stay calm if you can ...are you on your own?
is there anywhere you can think of where he might head to ?
the hospital are a disgrace for this to happen again . keep us posted xxxx
and a:bighug1:
yes im on my own. dad was out so i phoned him and his on a train up there and mum is up there now. erm no idea were he could be going. all his got on him is him self. thank you x i really cant cope if his not ok. he has to be x
its dark how will they find him :(
hi Emma
the police will maybe use the helicopter which has large search lights if they have to . And all the panda cars out will be looking for him as well .
lots of people .........and he cant have got too far if he has no money on him xxx
Thanks. I have no doubt he will be found. the worrying thing is his gonna be found well and alive? :\ last time they used the helicopter but it was in the afternoon.
emma ..........hold on and dont let awful thoughts spiral love ..........he will be found ..........this is taken very very seriously by the police indeed . all cops available will be out looking .and the lights on the helicopters are huge .......plus heat seeking equipment that shows up anyone out there amongst trees etc .
xxxxx:hugs:
Thanks. Under the mental health act they have hold of him for 1 year whether we want them to or not. as his considered "a danger to him self" at the moment.
any news Emma ? xx
None sadly. Just that there stiil searching x :) thank you for asking, means a lot :hugs:
stay with us while you are waiting Emma ......so hope you get good news soon .xxx
I will do and thank you. :D i hope so to x
annoying thing is dad has just come in told me go to bed saying theres nothing i can do. i know his upset but i find that very insentive. as if im not upset? as if i can really sleep at the moment. they always treat me like im strong and that i dont have feelings
can see why you feel like that Emma ..........of course you cant sleep !!
and you need to be around to wait for news .
Your dad is worried sick like you are and probably didnt think .............make a cup of tea and a sandwich to keep your blood sugars up [cos bet you havent eaten or your dad ] ..........run a bath .........it will help your dad as well .
you are being very strong actually Emma xx
I'm quite staggered that this has happened again so soon Em.ma.
Is there not a specially activated door at the entrance to the unit/ward he is on?
I worked on a mental health ward when I was a nursing student and the door to the ward was always locked, and could only be activated by a member of staff who would open it as and when required. There were also cameras all over the unit, particularly at the main door of the ward for people entering and leaving or attempting to and this was always monitored.
I would make a formal complaint to the chief executive of the place he is being cared for (supposedly)
Is it a hospital or a mental health facility?
If it is a hospital you can go through PALS who are an in house patient liaison department when you wish to make a formal complaint.
I truly hope your brother is found soon, but two main things really need to be addressed
1. The fact that your brother is absconding so frequently and why that is so?
and secondly, HOW THIS IS ABLE TO OCCUR. It is DISGUSTING.:mad:
can see why you feel like that Emma ..........of course you cant sleep !!
and you need to be around to wait for news .
Your dad is worried sick like you are and probably didnt think .............make a cup of tea and a sandwich to keep your blood sugars up [cos bet you havent eaten or your dad ] ..........run a bath .........it will help your dad as well .
you are being very strong actually Emma xx
I agree. Im not having a go at him i understand his distress. Its understandable i was just taken back a bit i suppose. Just got a strong coffee. Had dinner b4 this happened and he had eaten so we both are ok food wise x :) thank you again
I'm quite staggered that this has happened again so soon Em.ma.
Is there not a specially activated door at the entrance to the unit/ward he is on?
I worked on a memtal health ward when I was a nursing student and the door to the ward was always locked, and could only be activated by a member of staff who would open it as and when required. There were also cameras all over the unit, particularly at the main door of the ward for people entering and leaving or attempting to and this was always monitored.
I would make a formal complaint to the chief executive of the place he is being cared for (supposedly)
Is it a hospital or a mental health facility?
If it is a hospital you can go through PALS who are an in house patient liaison department when you wish to make a formal complaint.
I truly hope your brother is found soon, but two main things really need to be addressed
1. The fact that your brother is absconding so frequently and why that is so?
and secondly, HOW THIS IS ABLE TO OCCUR. It is DISGUSTING.:mad:
well they have like a lounge room and then that door is left open which leads to the door were you have to press a button to get out- but anyone can press it
what makes me laugh is that they had a warning from the police last time and my mum complained yet it went on.
its run by CAHMS. and is at haywards heath princess royal. its a unit there x
thank you. hope his found soon! and well
also the lounge door goes through to reception then u press the button to go out x
i think his doing it as his bored there- he used to go out at home and ride his bike up and down when he got bored. i dont think he will harm him self.
i just feel really upset for him. not for my self but for him. this has gone on for 4 months now and i just want him back and for it all to end
yes theres cameras to lol. ive seen them. i guess no one was watching :\
...so in other words, some complete and utter idiot is just pressing the button and letting your brother out.
That is a disgrace.
I would like to say I am surprised hun, but I know how these things go.
Staff are busy and just willy nilly press the button to let people in and out. I've seen it happen a million times before.
The fact is that your brother is obviously a high risk absconder and someone should be on top of that.
You can make a formal complaint if you so choose. I would to be honest. It just isn't good enough.
Keep us posted and I pray that your brother is found soon.x:hugs:
http://www.nhs.uk/Services/hospitals/Overview/DefaultView.aspx?id=2460 also read the reviews for it. there not good lol x
....or is it that your brother presses the button to release the door HIMSELF?
There are the doors that the staff have to press the button and others that the people INSIDE the unit can press to release the locked door.
...so in other words, some complete and utter idiot is just pressing the button and letting your brother out.
That is a disgrace.
I would like to say I am surprised hun, but I know how these things go.
Staff are busy and just willy nilly press the button to let people in and out. I've seen it happen a million times before.
The fact is that your brother is obviously a high risk absconder and someone should be on top of that.
You can make a formal complaint if you so choose. I would to be honest. It just isn't good enough.
Keep us posted and I pray that your brother is found soon.x:hugs:
thanks. well ben him self pressed the button. the kids can press it.
can a 17 year old make the complaint x?
totally agree Debs ................it is beyond belief isnt it ?
heads will roll over this .
they will find him Emma ....and so glad you know in your heart he wont harm himself ......you know your brother xxx :hugs:
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certain staff members took advantage of their positions and were verbally and physically out of order- could have made a panorama special on chalkhill, not enough security to venerable children from outside the building"
from one child who was there
You, your parents or anyone can make a complaint hun......but I am not sure your brother would complain if he is absconding would he ??(or do u mean u hun?)
You, your parents or anyone can make a complaint hun......but I am not sure your brother would complain if he is absconding would he ??
i dont think he would no. hoping the police will say something . one minute im angry, then im upset. not sure if they realise the stress it puts on us. i will look up how to make a complaint. ive never had a bad word to say about the NHS before. i think the front line nurses/doctors are brillant and the surgeons etc. but this is just silly. a sitation that can be stopped so easily from happening
Totally.
Complaining is never nice, I know, and the staff do try their best, but something is severely lacking here. Your brother is a vulnerable young person and clearly his safety is being neglected and a complaint is justifiable. It is not a triviality, it is a complete failure of their duty of care.:mad:
you will get support from the police to make a complaint once this immediate issue is over and your brother is safe Emma .
how is your mum ? x
Totally.
Complaining is never nice, I know, and the staff do try their best, but something is severely lacking here. Your brother is a vulnerable young person and clearly his safety is being neglected and a complaint is justifiable. It is not a triviality, it is a complete failure of their duty of care.:mad:
Totally agree and all i can do is sit and wait and hope and pray for him. nearly 3 hours this time of night worries me a lot. im meant to be up at 8 to lol :)
you will get support from the police to make a complaint once this immediate issue is over and your brother is safe Emma .
how is your mum ? x
My mum she is still at the hospital waiting. I did speak to her and her voice was shaky. the night we called 999 she fainted when they had 3 men restrain him. his so strong physically lol. Im thinking the police will talk to my mum once they find him (if they find him)
Poor you Emma.
I hope your brother is found very soon and all your minds are put at rest.xxxx
Poor you Emma.
I hope your brother is found very soon and all your minds are put at rest.xxxx
Thank you:hugs:
So happy they found him. (just got a phone call) thanks for all the support x really appreaciated
oh thank god Emma .........thank god xx
you must feel so relieved . thank you for letting us know
complaint time coming up big time for your family ........and believe me the police will have something to say to the unit and heads will roll and an enquiry held .
so pleased . XXX
oh thank god Emma .........thank god xx
you must feel so relieved . thank you for letting us know
complaint time coming up big time for your family ........and believe me the police will have something to say to the unit and heads will roll and an enquiry held .
so pleased . XXX
Aww thank you. Yes i can go rest soon although now i have pain above eyebrows lol. I guess stress.
Yes i will not stop until a complaint is made by either me/mum/dad.
:) thank for all your help x
Oh I am so pleased for you Emma.....brill news.
Thank God.:hugs:
Thank you. He is home for weekend now :)
sunshine-lady
20-08-11, 20:08
So pleased that your brother has been found safe and well. The unit where he is staying has a lot of explaining to do! I am currently in hospital under section 2 of the mental health act (although I have home leave today). The unit where I am is like fort knox and it is a facility for adults. Even the patients that are not sectioned have to be escorted out by a staff member.
I have used PALs myself in the past and they were fantastic!
Take care xxx
Thanks
i spoke to a nurse and she said we cant lock as none of the kids are a danger to outher people- and it would go against there rights. then she looked at my bro and said "i heard you were wasting police time and money again" to him! i know she meant it as a joke but i wanted to say "well you can stop this happening, his ill and your meant to look after him"
his gone back today and i know theyve found him the last few times but now im on edge all the time. What if it happens one time and they dont find him
That is outrageous Emma.
I would go through PALS to complain as they get things done for you. This nurse is clearly missing the point. The point is that they have a duty of care in caring for your brother, and they are NOT living up to that, whatever politically correct nonsense she chooses to churn out to you.
It isn't an issue of locking in the patients. It is an issue of safeguarding your brother so he cannot abscond and perhaps cause himself harm and have harm brought upon him.
I would speak to the nurse in charge about this Emma and tell them in no uncertain terms that you are going to go to PALS and the CHIEF EXECUTIVE of the hospital about this. If you kick up enough stink they DO listen.
PS.... what she also fails to comprehend is your bro would not BE ABLE to waste police time if they had been doing their jobs properly!!!:mad:
"PS.... what she also fails to comprehend is your bro would not BE ABLE to waste police time if they had been doing their jobs properly!!!:mad:"
one hundred percent agree with this and everything else you have said. My mum has told me she is in the process of making a formal complaint and wont let this slide- shes now on Citolpram (think thats spelt right) her self as shes not coping very well at all.
thank you x :)
emma.
Hi :)
are the police helping your family in any way .........cos they should be helping you to make complaint ...........and also making their own for wasting resources. .
NOT saying they should not look for your brother :hugs:........but someone has to be accountable . hospital !!!!!
also look into talking to your local MP Emma .the local library will give you details .
feel for you all .and your mum . hope the tablets help her .and you can help by telling her what you have learned here and printing out the pages posted about the meds if she is struggling .
hope you have been to the doctors for the other issue young lady :hugs::hugs:
xxx :blush: nag nag .
"are the police helping your family in any way .........cos they should be helping you to make complaint ...........and also making their own for wasting resources. ."
they are not helping. or i am not aware that they are.
Ive since spoken to my mum about the tablet shes on.
The MP is a good idea. Never thought of that before lol.
Thank you x
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