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Re: The Inositol Guide: PsychoPoet Research Initiative
Thanks for your response PsychoPoet. I am not taking any other medications. After the restless sleep episodes I took a 3 month break from inositol and then read more on the positive effects of inositol on PCOS, and restarted it at 2g daily in the mornings. I haven't noticed any mood changes. I do notice I feel more tired/relaxed and ready for bed earlier than usual. I will work up to 2g twice daily to reap the full effects for PCOS and maybe more if my anxiety persists.
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Thank you for your report I may give this a go se how i go very good info
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I started taking inositol the other day. I read a very good book that detailed lots of different prescription and over the counter medications and thought Id give this a go.
The past few months I have been suffering with insomnia (grrr!)
I also have a situation dependent fairly tricky social anxiety problem which can lead to panic attacks.
Im only 3 days in, and I have only taken Inositol at night so far. But I have had 2 (and hopefully 3 after I make this post) great nights sleep so far. I know for a fact that the Inositol is helping me to get a good nights sleep.
My insomnia is very easy to read, but has been very difficult to treat. I can feel exhausted all day, but the moment I get in to bed I feel like the centre of my brain is extremely focused and I will lay there thinking all through the night. My heart beat always feels a little stronger too.
I have found it very difficult for my mind to wander and to have negative thoughts when trying to sleep for the past few nights. I sense I would have to strain my mind in order to do so. I can feel my heart beat going a little stronger than it should, that lets me know I wouldn't be sleeping otherwise. Its my own tell tale sign I have picked up on.
So, so far so good. I might start taking it 3 times a day. I don't see why not and would have no problem doing so as long as I can drive and pay attention to the road.
For sleep tho, Id really recommend giving it a go. Sleeping pills didn't work, valerian neither. But inositol is.
Edit - 3 good nights sleep :)
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Hi people
I have decided to buy some Inositol I am in the uk I do suffer from sad and anxiety I take 200mg of sertrline my mood is not to bad but sad and anxiety is really bad now.
I spoke to the lady in hb and she advised to take it with vitamin b.
I have some multi vitamins she said these should be.
do you guys think 3 x 650mg a day will be enough of the stuff to lower anxiety.
I will buy some powder when these run out doctor gave me some trazadone but they never helped
Thanks for any advice
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I was going to ask the same question as the last poster. Will 3 x 650mg a day be OK to start with? Will that make a difference?
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Hello, I am a 28 y/o male and have been suffering from high anxiety and panic disorder for the past 3 months. Prior to experiencing this i was a very socially active person and never had worries but stress was always on my mind, i sort of put everything in the back burner. I had lost my job and was unemployed for a bit, my grandmother had passed away and i came down with a 5 day flu. After that all hell broke loose in my mind and till this day i am having anxiety and panic.
I just bought Inositol after reading up on it to see if i can level my self out and just be normal again. It seems really safe and aide effects arent too crazy.
I had a question though, i am still young and socialize a lot, it actually helps with my anxiety at times. I am a social drinker but i binge when i do. The next day is pure chaos for my mind with extremely high anxiety and panic, with lingering anxiety once the panic has subsided.
My question is assuming inositol does help me would i be able to still consume my occasional alchohol on the weekends either on or off the inositol.
Any feedback helps. I appreciate it.
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Joining the inositol crew! Should arrive in a few days, want to use it for swings of depression and constant anxiety I have the same question as the above post, hoping it won't affect my social life? I'm guessing we are the research force at the moment as there is so little known about it so far. I'll take a good dose and have a god drink and see what happens :D
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Update: got mine from Blackburn distributions, 100grams, so should last me 20-30 days hopefully :) good amount of time to try it out.
Just had my first quarter teaspoon with a cuppa, its like sherbet, yummy! Am hoping it will help with my depression related sleep-maintenence-insomnia too. Will keep you updated on if it helps/side effects.
Ooh I think a couple of people on this thread have got miligrams and grams mixed up, you're not taking 3-4 miligrams, it's 3-4 grams, and certainly not 650 grams! :D
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Hi Pancho, yes it does have a slightly sweet flavour, you'd expect it to be nasty but it isn't at all.
I don't use inositol these days as I am not sure whether or not it works against mirtazapine, and to be honest, my level of anxiety is usually low. I do take omega 3 supplements though.
Wantto12 - alcohol is a depressant, so heavy drinking is not advisable at all. Binge drinking is completely the opposite of what you should do even if you aren't suffering from anxiety or low mood, so it will give you a hammering - think of it as your body's way of saying "Respect me, or you'll get more of this!" ;)
Soulsearcher and Steveo - yeah, that should be fine, you don't want to start too high. I found the ideal dose was around 4g per day. More than that upset my stomach but I never took higher doses for long enough to know if that would settle down.
Mike - it's good that the inositol is helping. It's good stuff.
Renie - bear in mind that anxiety and depression are illnesses of the way we think, so inositol can help you sleep and feel more relaxed but you'll still need to identify your unhelpful beliefs and challenge them if you want to get better.
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I've decided to give this a go. I've ordered 360x1000mg(1g) tablets. I have sensitive guts due to already having IBS, so I'm going to start with half a tablet a day and work my way up gradually, so it might be a little while before I see any benefits.
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Very interesting indeed Pyschopoet. I wish I'd read about this before I went on Sertraline, as I might have given it a go, as most of my obsessive anxiety surrounds sleep... Still no use crying over spilt milk now and I seem to be doing ok.
I am still having trouble sleeping however... I'd like to sleep clean, but on good nights I have to use Night Nurse. And on bad nights (i.e. when that fails) it's back to the trusty Zopiclone. And although I'm working very hard not to be anxious about using that (a recent lapse back onto it induced a panic attack) I'd would rather not keep using something that is addictive and a pain in the arse to get from the GP's.
Do you have anything to comment on Inositol's possible combination with Sertraline? I am still building up my tolerance at the moment (day 26 of 50mg)...
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Sleeping isn't any better yet, took two doses yesterday. Going to the toilet was interesting this morning, I think I poo'd half my body weight in liquid. Will be interested to see how I fare today.
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Haven't deposited any more pavement pancakes although I'm creating wonderful sounds and smells from my pigeonhole and experiencing some other digestive excitements. I don't think I'm taking a full teaspoon a day yet. Yesterday I had a better day than I've had for a while, mood is improved and anxiety is more in the background, could well be the inositol!
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Day 8 and feeling good! I think this stuff really works!! I'd take this over antidepressants any day. No stomach upset except a bit of regurgitation after a large dose or if not straight after a meal. Haven't woken up in the night at all, but still waking up a bit too early.
Feeling so much brighter without the depression, I can acually think about doing things with my life again.
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Laheed
Very interesting indeed Pyschopoet. I wish I'd read about this before I went on Sertraline, as I might have given it a go, as most of my obsessive anxiety surrounds sleep...
Inositol is classed as a vitamin. It is safe to take with any SSRI. I don't think there are any contraindications other than anything already stated in the article.
Panchogoz, I'm so glad I read that after a massive bowl of spaghetti bolonese, it seemed so appropriate ;)
The major study I read up on about inositol stated they thought inositol could be used instead of medication if you took higher doses eg 12g. Also inositol starts working much quicker than an SSRI.
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Ah now I took it with a bottle of beer last night as an experiment - no ill effects apart from the usual morning wind, and I had a fantastic night's sleep.
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How much are you taking Pancho?
I bought stupid capsules which are only 600mg and I try to take 3 a day but I don't see any effects.
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I don't know really...probably about 4 grams. I'm trying to make it around a teaspoon.
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For what it's worth, I found 3-4g per day to be effective. Any more than that and the old "rumbly tumbly" did a fandango.
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I suppose you'd need 5 to 6 of those capsules a day to be effective?
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I hope my posts are aiding the research initiative rather than cluttering up the thread!
Feeling very anxious this morning, mind is racing, detatched and overwhelmed. I'm going to try upping the inositol and take about half a teaspoon with each meal. My emotions are crazy at the moment, just need to rest my mind if I can...
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My Inositol has arrived! The tablets are 1000mg (1g). I already have IBS(D) and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, so as the potential side effects are diarrhoea and tiredness, I'm going to start with just one tablet per day, with my evening meal, and see how that goes before considering increasing it. Here's hoping for a positive outcome!
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I hope it goes well for you Edie! I felt better as the day went on yesterday. I reckon I had 5 to 6 grams. Hard to tell if it was the inositol. Stomach is still fine. Going to try for 6 grams today and tomorrow.
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Well I had a really good sleep last night, but it's too early to tell whether it was due to the inositol. Certainly a good sign though!
No digestive symptoms either.
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Oh my lord. I don't think I've ever had this much gas in my life!!!! I literally can't clamp it in. Will have to go back to 4 grams if this doesn't improve!
What psycho says about inositol working best in conjunction with other things is totally right. It won't drag you up from despair. However, doing the things I usually do such as distraction, mindfulness and catching the thought trains before they start help a lot more than they used to. I can really disengage from my anxiety without it permiating my life like it did. And the mood is much improved. Been a bit hyper in fact, hoping that's just due to the excitement of my upcoming birthday though.
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For what it's worth, my mood-managing capability is far better these days than it ever has been. It requires conscious effort, but it starts to become self-sustaining as you get used to it. My new job is very hard and I'm not doing nearly as well as I thought, but I have replaced my former hopeless, whiny attitude with a kind of defiant resilience which keeps me going back for more. I'm still on mirtazapine, but don't need other substances to help manage my mood - I have started to learn how to do this myself.
The point being, most of your recovery will come from your attitude, beliefs and actions. Medication and other substances are a crutch to help you through the worst but they are not a cure and should not be relied on. If life kicks your crutch away, will you fall down, or will you be able to stand on your own feet? If you ever get confused about the direction your recovery is heading in, ask yourself this question. Then you'll know whether or not you are recovering.
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One day I hope to live likfe without any crutches to kick :)
I take very little inositol now, although I have a bigger dose on a rough day. Ordered another packet, good to know it's there.
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Hi I'm new here and am really interested in trying this but not sure if its ok to take with venlafaxine and depakote? :unsure:
I've just this morning started to reduce my venlafaxine (150 to 112.5 ) due to being fed up with all the nasty side effects and no real difference to my anxiety.
Thanks :hugs:
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Yes you can as it's just a vitimin, someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
I haven't updated in a while - forgotten to take it! Going to try not too and save it for if I feel really bad one time. Upon a random half a teaspoon dose the other day, I woke up with the same explosion of juice from the behind, so for me it's when I start it after being off it, but it only happens once.
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I'm now up to 4g per day, and will increase to 5g next week. I'm not sure whether it's helping or not, but it may be.
My anxiety has not been quite so bad, but then it does go through phases anyway. There is no dramatic improvement, but then I wasn't expecting miracles anyway. If this phase lasts then it is probably down to the inositol, but at the moment I'm not sure.
I have been sleeping a little better than usual. Again, this might just be a phase. We'll see. Hopefully it will last!
I have had a couple of IBS attacks ths week on the 4g. I'm not sure whether they are related to the inositol or not. It's unusual to have two IBS attacks in a week, but not unheard of. I guess I will find out when I increase the inositol. If the IBS gets worse then I will have to reduce it again. Certainly there were no IBS problems at 3g, so I can carry on taking it for long enough to find out whether it's working.
So I'm still hopeful, just not yet totally convinced.
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Hi everyone. I never came across any contra-indications except pregnancy because as PanchoGoz says, it's technically a vitamin. So unless you're pregnant, there is nothing to say you cannot combine inositol with those meds.
Edie, watch the dose strength if you are finding it provokes your stomach. I found about 4g per day was suitable for me but it may well be less for you. Are you eating well, or is the anxiety making you skip meals or eat rubbish? Maybe your body would tolerate the inositol better if you split the dose and took it morning and night?
Don't forget, you'll need to develop strong and effective strategies to help reduce your anxiety and relax your body and mind. Even a slight improvement in your sleep is something to be very pleased about :)
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I'm going to give this a try. I've ordered 180 500mg capsules online so we'll see how the go...
I've been doing better on the citalopram but feel I could do with something a bit extra.
I'll report back later this week when they've arrived!
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teej
I'm going to give this a try. I've ordered 180 500mg capsules online so we'll see how the go...
I've been doing better on the citalopram but feel I could do with something a bit extra.
I'll report back later this week when they've arrived!
Well they arrived yesterday and I've just just taken two with my lunch so that's 1000mg to start with. I'm figuring I'm going to start at 3g a day and see what happens.
I'm at work at the moment... beginning to feel I'm rattling with all the pills I take now. :doh:
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Remember to get to the toilet quick tomorrow morning! It does "flush you out"
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Thanks for the warning Pancho! I'll bear that one in mind. There's 4 of us in my place using one loo so I'll warn everyone! :roflmao:
I've felt pretty mellow this afternoon... not sure if that's the citalopram or atarax or inositol. I'm hoping the proof in the pudding will be the sleep. The atarax gave me proper messed up dreams last night so I'm keen to not take too much of that.:wacko:
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Okay - well day 2 of Inositol. Still struggling to remember how to spell it.
I've had 3 grammes now over the last 24 hours. Current side effects: none. I've been a bit.... well - erm gassy this morning but nothing to write home about considering I had a curry and a lot of soda last night.
Had raging nightmares again last night but I actually slept in later. But again I was up late and took an atarax at midnight. I was so over-excited when I went to bed because of having managed to go out... :yahoo:
Mood today is good - despite nightmares managed to get going and yet again am feeling mellow. My mind feels quiet but foggy. Again putting the fog down to atarax and poor sleep in general.
Probably going to try cutting down / out the atarax as a next step and see where I go from there.
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Got 4.5g in today (3 x 3 x 500mg). No problems in the food processing areas other than the odd violent gas leak. If anything I'm having less problems than usual in that region.
Terrible anxiety this morning then that's fairly usual for me but it's passed this afternoon. What could have been a fairly horrendous blip seems to have come and gone remarkably quickly.
Also managed to sleep without interruption last night despite a lack of atarax, which I'm ditching anyway because it's useless for anxiety and sleep (unless you like nightmares from hell).
Feeling very tired tonight. Certainly feeling calmer....
I'll keep reporting.
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Thought I would provide a link to a research abstract with some proof of effectiveness while I'm here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9169302
I may have some around Christmas, we'll see.
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I've gently started inositol again due to stressful circumstances. I was just wandering if anyone has encountered a disturbed night's sleep after a first dose as I could barely sleep at all last night? Could well have been the storms though.