That would be amazing! Thank you so so much.
It would help us all loads i think just to have somewhere to talk to people going through the same things.
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One thing to be aware of is that having open discussion about self harm can be upsetting and unhelpful to other sufferers, and frightening to those who don't understand, so I would say perhaps not. Openly talking about the harm itself tends to trigger people off or make them worse.
While I am in my therapy group, there are very clear rules that we don't directly discuss self harm with the other group members. Talking about it with a professional face to face, who does understand, is very helpful so I'd recommend that as the next step for people who have talked to their doctor.
There are other sites out there devoted to self harm, but I haven't found them very helpful for this reason. I would stick to this thread here for now.
Hopefully that helps? :shrug: :hugs:
Jim :hugs:
Fair point Jimbo
However, some people, myself included find talking helps as its a way to release all the feelings inside.
I myself hate keeping things in as they eat away at me and just make me worse hence why i have posted so much in this topic.
Stacey =]
Hey, :hugs:
I totally agree, what's been said here is very positive and helpful.:yesyes:
Jim :hugs:
Hi Stacey
NOTHING you say will scare me off. It's really nice to have someone that understands what I'm feeling and thinking.
I can honestly say that I was looking at my scars last night thinking 'i like them'. When I self harmed last week I put the cuts in the middle of the others so it was an even pattern and looked better!!
Please try not to call yourself a freak. We are simply expressing ourselves the only way we know how. We have to learn other ways to express ourselves. I've started drawing how I feel. I drew a picture of me laying on a settee with a vortex underneath me sucking my life away from me. I know this is weird but it's how I feel.
I've also been on my keep fit machine this morning trying to burn up some of the anxiety and I've screamed into a pillow!! But I'm literally 'climbing the walls' with anger and frustration.
I'm really sorry about you loosing your job - they are clearly uneducated idiots.
I spoke to my manager yesterday and because of new rules at work about sick leave I've got to be signed off work until I'm fine (I have a spine problem that is causing me pain and dizziness/weakness). If I go back to work and have further time off they will sack me so I'm better off not going back until I'm fine.The loneliness will now get worse as I miss talking to people. But I'm thinking about contacting 'help the aged' and offering to visit an elderly person who is alone to keep them company once a week. This would be really difficult for me but I always feel great when I'm helping people so feel this may be the way for me to go.
I'm just about to give in and self harm but I'm trying to feel positive that I haven't done it for nearly a week despite wanting to. I have my razors steralised and ready... Also, for about 2 weeks I've wanted to cut my face but I haven't so I'm trying to see this as a positive thing.
EFT is emotional freedom technique. Its where you tap accupunture points whilst saying a certain thing about the problem you are experiencing. When I first did it I thought 'what a load of rubbish, this will never work' but I've been really surprised by the results. I'm off to an appointment today and am really nervous about it as I'm going to tell him about my self harming. You have to work on one negative thought at a time and as I have hundreds of negative thoughts there is a lot to work on!
Look EFT up on the internet and have a read. I think I've still got the information from them so I could post the link here but I don't know if I'm allowed to.
Thank you for your support. I don't have friends or family to talk to about this - maybe you are the reason I was able to not self harm for the last week?
Keep safe and let me know how your doctors appointment goes.
Bx ( I would add a smiley face I have no idea how to do this!)
I've just seen Jimbo's message above saying we shouldn't be discussing things so openly.
Should I not be saying what I am? really stressed now!
B
Hey Bx,:hugs:
Don't worry, I didn't mean to offend. I just tend to agree with what the therapists have told me, in that discussing the specific details of particular urges with other sufferers might not help you or them. We are encouraged in our group to refer to it as 'unhelpful behaviours'. It kinda makes sense to me.:shrug:
Speaking to someone professional about it is the most important thing. Just so there's someone experienced involved who can help you get better and make sure things aren't getting any worse. Bx, please talk to your GP again if you have thoughts about intensifying the harm. I for one think everyone is beautiful and you don't deserve that. I've had some way out there urges in the past, but not followed through with them, so have another chat with him so he knows that you might need some more help and support.
There are certain types of therapy that can benefit self harm more than others. Going to your GP and getting a counsellor or therapy through your local mental health team is the way forward. Sometimes there's a long wait and I'd be dubious about paying out to someone for it, but I eventually got there in the end.
I'm not sure about the specifics of EFT, but things like CBT and intensive cognitive type therapy are normally considered the best. I'm doing DBT, a slant of CBT. Nearly at the end of my group, it's been incredibly hard work and it hasn't solved everything for me, but it has helped.
Jim:hugs:
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Seems Ive opened a can of worms! I would hate that anyone was affected negatively by this, maybe I need to wait for NIc or Alex to comment on this!
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Firstly, sorry I've not been around for a while but I had pc probs!
Speaking as an ex-self harmer myself I can understand both points of view. Not so long ago I posted a thread on self harm but then I became worried that just by talking about it might have brought feelings to the surface making some sufferers problems worse. On the other hand though, it's not something that should be swept under the carpet for fear of upsetting people. It's a delicate line.
I know that I would rather a suffererer be talking about how they're feeling rather than relieving their feelings by self harming. Self harming is just another way of coping with anxiety, frustration and hurt etc.
My own feeling is I would have loved to been able to share how I felt with other sufferers who understood me as maybe then it would have helped me not to self harm. However, actually talking in graphic detail about the actual type of harm probably isn't helpful even between sufferers which is why I try not to go into detail on here about the things I did to myself but self harm is an anxiety symptom so sufferers do need to share their feelings. :shrug:
Hey guys!
Sorry i havent posted here in a couple days - ive
been having a bad spell and just couldnt bring myself to do it.
Had my appointment yesterday with my gp and he has reffered me to a counsellor/therapist. I dont think he knew quite what to say to me and i felt as if he didnt quite believe me until i showed him the scars.
Bunty, well done for lasting so long without self harming! It ok if you have a few set backs, its only normal. Atleast now you know you can do it and you can definitely stop again. Im so happy for you =D
Regarding the discussion on self harm it i think it helps some so its a really good thing to have. The others that dont wish to talk or read about it because it makes them worse then surely they just wont read it? Just like this topic, its clear from the ttle whats involved and if someone doesnt like to talk or read about it then they obviously wouldnt enter.
Stacey =]