Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
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MyNameIsTerry
Well to the kids he's an oldie now just like how millennials are the parent generation trying to be cool.
Funnily enough a few days ago, BI mentioned in another thread on here (started by myself) that she was verbally abused by a student in her 40s at the college she works at, and a couple of other students who are still in their teens were really sympathetic towards her following said ordeal.
And I responded with something along the lines of it seeming like the real yobs and hellraisers were/are the Gen X'ers and the Gen Y'ers who were teenagers in the 90s and 2000s, respectively.
Plus like I've already said before in other threads on here, and for better or worse, I hardly ever hear people (especially older generations) uttering stuff like 'kids today have no respect', etc, like I used to, still even as late as the mid 2010s, but certainly most common in the 90s and 2000s from my personal recollection and understanding.
Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
I was looking at further posts on the DS thread about TOTP 1995 which not only covered the 'Alice' record, but to my personal amusement (and kind of relief in the context of many people often rightly or wrongly slagging off current popular music), there were quite a few posters on there who in turn were berating a lot of the tunes in those 1995 TOTP episides, so basically proves that those 'good old days' of the mid 90s era weren't really all that good all of the time.
In fact, I remember finding certain tunes out during that particular era rather cringeworthy first-hand (and ironically at the age of 18 as well), never mind a fair amount of today's stuff.
However when Chubby performs on my manor tonight, I might feel compelled to fart in his general direction!
Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
On a similar note, I was reading threads on DS about this year's Brit Awards with many of its FMs seemingly bemoaning how dull, sterile and tame it's become over recent years and being virtually devoid of the debauchery, raucousness and sheer edginess that said show was often (in)famous for back in the 90s and even well into the 2000s to a certain extent. Especially that classic Jarvis Cocker (Pulp) vs Michael Jackson moment in the 1996 show, plus Liam Gallagher vs Robbie Williams in a subsequent show sometime in the early 2000s IIRC but can't remember the exact year.
On the other hand, I think TV, films and popular music tried to be a bit too over-reliant on 'shock value' and 'edginess' in general back in the 90s and 2000s, and while a lot of it obviously proved to be very popular and successful at the time, I personally think it was those trends that partly ended up ruining the entertainment business in the longer term, especially as a lot of such things have now basically been done to death over the past 35 years or so to the extent that they're so passe now.
Especially material from the likes of the aforementioned Roy Chubby Brown and many others of that ilk.
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To be fair, Jarvis Cocker didn't sexually assault small boys.
Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
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BlueIris
To be fair, Jarvis Cocker didn't sexually assault small boys.
Not sure if it has ever been 100% proven that Jacko did the nonce stuff, but if so I'm rather surprised that he still hasn't yet been disowned by the masses and that his songs are still frequently played on the radio and in discos, etc, especially material from the 'Off The Wall' - 'Thriller' era.
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Because people can be awful when it comes to their heroes. Personally, I'd rather trust the victims, especially when the evidence seems compelling.
Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
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BlueIris
Because people can be awful when it comes to their heroes. Personally, I'd rather trust the victims, especially when the evidence seems compelling.
I don't dispute what you're saying BI; I'm just rather miffed at the fact that no one as yet has called for Jacko to be banned/cancelled, unlike a lot of other celebrities who were/are so-called nonce cases, if it is 100% true about Jacko of course.
The 'nonce case' celebs I 'm referring to above were/are the likes of Jimmy Savile, Dave Lee Travis, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter, etc; all odious, repulsive creatures!
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Sorry, Lenco, I get really touchy about Michael Jackson because I've argued with too many rabid fans.
Re: Comedians that wouldn't be allowed on TV today
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BlueIris
Sorry, Lenco, I get really touchy about Michael Jackson because I've argued with too many rabid fans.
Fair enough, even though I'm not mega crazy about Jacko myself, nor am I an apologist for him. I just happen to think some of his songs are OK (on a casual basis), while others of his are instantly forgettable, of which the same also goes for many other acts.
Anyway, I'm done with discussing Jacko for now, plus he's now one of yesterday's men.
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While actually a film by a comedy 'group' rather than standalone comedians, I also bet Monty Python's 'Life Of Brian' certainly wouldn't be commissioned in the current climate, especially as its dialogue contains some anti-Semitic (Jew-bashing) lines, plus various other non-PC lines that were already highly controversial back in 1979 when said film was first released.
Mind you, there's certain barbaric scenes in said film that I certainly find cringeworthy and rather triggering myself, such as the death sentences by stonings (due to blasphemy) and when the film's central character Brian is before the 'court' and is 'thrown to the floor' and smacked around the head roughly then manages to do a runner while the rest of the court people in said scene are embroiled in fits of hysterical laughter at various 'innuendo', and not forgetting the crucifix scenes at the end of the film where they're singing 'Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life'.