If you know someone has a bias then you have to be careful listening to them. So many people make a lot of money out of being in the EU, they want to retain their revenue streams and don't care about the struggles of the plebs.
Don't they cancel each other out?
Taking back control is just another buzzword thing just as the bus was. Some people will believe it but anyone who has been around for a while will know that it just isn't like that. How much of that money would have been swallowed up by the MOD and any glamour project anyway? It wasn't the point. Just as that Turkey poster gets a lot of mentions yet Turkey have been stuck trying to get into the EU for ages. It was another "this may happen, the EU are well in favour of it" issue. This is the EU that has been happy with the migrants until it reached a point they weren't and now their attitudes are cold to them. Merkel wanted her cheap labour, she got them and payed the price at the ballot box and voila her attitude did an about turn on her own beliefs.
I don't see No Deal as an automatic failure because I believe that's too naïve. There are a lot of people who can prevent any deal and force No Deal and we can't hang that all on the government of the day. Some German ministers are unhappy with Corbyn and his fence sitting, for instance. Many here will be unhappy with EU stubbornness (we can't have a hard border and we can't not have a CU yet now the assistant negotiator says the EU can do without either with a workaround...which we have been told is illegal many times :shrug:).
If we get workable deals are the government just mess it up, blame them. If they do what the can of a bad job and Parliament mess it up with votes against, blame it on them too.
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Something that has made me chuckle though is how the hardcore Leavers & Remainers taunt each other. Not long ago we "well you wanted sovereignty" because of Gina Miller and now the same people get it back because "you wanted Parliament to make the calls on the deal".
Both groups want the government and Parliament, not the PM, to decide and both groups have been frustrated by that very fact. Both groups complain they don't want the deal yet have taunted each other over the referendum being about leaving the EU, not saying what the future deal would be, blah blah blah. :biggrin: