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Now I'm Under Lockdown Due to Protests and Looting
Anyone else?
First it was CV, now it's protests and looting. During the day, the protests have all been peaceful. But as soon as the sun starts to go down, it's been turning into complete anarchy with lots of looting. I don't need to leave the house, and i'm not near any shopping centers, so I feel safe...but it's the fact that I can't leave that is super creepy.
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Stay safe, Vee. I hope it all ends soon.
Yep, the night will bring out the criminals who can operate behind the safety of a crowd reducing the number of patrolling cops. Some here refer to these things as a good time to grab a new TV...literally after the initial deposit of a house brick. :winks:
Our protests seem confined to London, the home of protesters. I won't see this in my city, such things are rare here. Maybe Birmingham will see some but they won't attract much press so police will be less afraid to do anything as the Met always seem to be.
I hope they keep it peaceful where you are. If it's like over here there is a fringe of the problem protesters and most are happy just to be heard.
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Right now, sitting at home in my living room, it's just a bunch of police sirens and a bunch of stupid people using the opportunity of the police being tied up to light off illegal fireworks. I don't know if you're been to southern California (socal) but basically, all of our cities border each other, like the different neighborhoods London border each other. It's not so bad in my city. The next city over though, I'm watching on the news, it's nuts there. There's just crowds of masked people going from store to store to store breaking in and running out with stuff until the cops can show up.
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This really is not fun for my GAD :/
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Oh, the National Guard has showed up now. Helicopters out now. I hope it stops the dumba$$es with the fireworks.
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Just reiterating Terry's post, stay safe x It's the last thing the county wanted when trying to cope with Covid19.
The policing system needs to be overhauled (either in the state of Minnesota/and other states) across USA. The issue is that the US have never addressed their cultural inequalities and this is so much more apparent in some states than others. Presidents like DT rark things up even more.
ps. Just seen in the Herald that there are peaceful protests in some cities in NZ in relation to the killing in US.
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The issue is that the US have never addressed their cultural inequalities and this is so much more apparent in some states than others. Presidents like DT rark things up even more.
It's that. Many don't want to acknowledge that white privilege exists and that darker skin is unfortunately associated with crime and violence. It's this unconscious bias that seems to be deeply embedded in our culture. It's not just a police officer thing. When people lie about a crime they've committed, who do they say did it? An unidentified black man. When people see a black person walk through a non-black neighborhood, they get nervous. People who aren't black are scared to drive in mostly-black neighborhoods. Even within minority cultures here, the people with darker skin are teased or made fun of. Even other black people tease their friends and relatives with darker skin. I have family members who do it. (Even though they make fun of me for my light skin. You can't win!). It just seems so pervasive, but so many don't want to acknowledge it.
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How are things now, Vee? It must be terrifying for you but you are safe indoors and hopefully by now the National Guard will have put a stop to the worst of it?
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I’m sorry you’re in the middle of it, must be very scary.
I understand how this happens, and I suppose things are worse because the people who have started looting and damaging property have been cooped up and are now giddy with it.
I remember when we had a few days of riots and looting some years ago over the death of Mark Duggan. It was terrifying for a few days but over soon enough.
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I'm fortunate living in a rural area as we've escaped the large numbers of COVID-19 cases as well as the protests. My son is in Chicago and while there are large demonstrations, violence and looting going on, he lives away from the hot spots. The same with my wife's son and he's in Minneapolis where this all started. They hear the sirens and helicopters but are safe for the moment. No doubt that's very stressful and the rhetoric from leadership is not helping the situation.
If its stressful for those without anxiety, I can only imagine what its like for sufferers. Stay safe Antsy!
Positive thoughts
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Well, in my city, once the Guard rolled through, everything calmed down. The dumba$$es stopped the fireworks. In the city next door, they finally got them out of there about a half hour later. My city's people respected the curfew, thank G-d, and no looting in my city. All the looting was in the city next door. It quieted down and I was able to get to sleep around midnight. There was a police chase on the freeway as I was going to bed, but I didn't stay up to watch it.
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Well, I take it back. Our courthouse was tagged up last night and had windows broken. Luckily, no looting!
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Fishmanpa
No doubt that's very stressful and the rhetoric from leadership is not helping the situation.
If its stressful for those without anxiety, I can only imagine what its like for sufferers. Stay safe Antsy!
Positive thoughts
Isn't that the truth? It shows you just how much certain leaders are alienated from their population and don't have a clue.
Update: Day #3
So LA county is under a curfew from 6 pm on, except for Santa Monica which had a 1:30 pm curfew. Orange county is under curfew depending on the city. My city has a 10 pm curfew, which hasn't arrived yet (it's 8:45 pm), but so far so good in my city. There are some illegal fireworks being shot off, but nothing like last night. The city next door (where they had the looting last night) is under a 5 pm curfew. Lot of people came out with brooms and trash cans to help the shop owners clean up where the looters destroyed. That was really touching to see. Unfortunately, most of the stores that got looted were small "mom and pop" shops. They were hit by CV, and now they've been hit by this.
There was looting in Hollywood today, but the police were able to get control of it much easier than the looting last night. We're now on the third police pursuit on the news. The first two pursuits were organized looters who assaulted police officers and tried to get away. Luckily, none of it no where near me so far!
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The police just got the people in the third pursuit. Also looters!
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So Tweety went on TV and said he would call in the military to disperse the protests. Then, he had the police clear the way from the White House, using tear gas and rubber bullets so he could walk to a church to get a photo op holding a Bible!
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Positive and scary thoughts
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I knew it! This was part of his plan all along!
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Fishmanpa
So Tweety went on TV and said he would call in the military to disperse the protests. Then, he had the police clear the way from the White House, using tear gas and rubber bullets so he could walk to a church to get a photo op holding a Bible!
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Positive and scary thoughts
I know. The precedent of the use of presidential force to stop violent protests goes all the way back to Washington during the Whiskey Rebellion. But the protesters that Tweety had cleared from the WH were peaceful and just exercising their first amendment rights. Now today he's bragging about his use of force on them.
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That's it then. America has become a dictatorship.
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AntsyVee
It's that. Many don't want to acknowledge that white privilege exists and that darker skin is unfortunately associated with crime and violence. It's this unconscious bias that seems to be deeply embedded in our culture. It's not just a police officer thing. When people lie about a crime they've committed, who do they say did it? An unidentified black man. When people see a black person walk through a non-black neighborhood, they get nervous. People who aren't black are scared to drive in mostly-black neighborhoods. Even within minority cultures here, the people with darker skin are teased or made fun of. Even other black people tease their friends and relatives with darker skin. I have family members who do it. (Even though they make fun of me for my light skin. You can't win!). It just seems so pervasive, but so many don't want to acknowledge it.
I remember listening to one of Obama's speeches where he said he got used to the sound of the central locking operating on the white folks' cars when he got near them - and we've seen enough reporting in the UK of white people calling the police because someone black has appeared in their neighbourhood.
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Yes, I've also seen it first hand with my family and some of my coworkers. Because I have light skin, I've even been asked if I've needed help when surrounded by my family who have darker skin out in public.
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Pamplemousse
I remember listening to one of Obama's speeches where he said he got used to the sound of the central locking operating on the white folks' cars when he got near them - and we've seen enough reporting in the UK of white people calling the police because someone black has appeared in their neighbourhood.
We've seen some cases. How many of all colours viewed it as ridiculous?
Lots of BAME people in my area. The police would be opening stations on every street.
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FrankT
That's it then. America has become a dictatorship.
Try to keep things in perspective, Frank. They wouldn't be using tear gas in countries like that as we have seen in some cases.
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MyNameIsTerry
We've seen some cases. How many of all colours viewed it as ridiculous?
Lots of BAME people in my area. The police would be opening stations on every street.
For clarity Terry, I worded it badly: my post should have read "..and we've seen enough reporting in the UK from the US of white people calling the police because someone black has appeared in their neighbourhood."
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FrankT
That's it then. America has become a dictatorship.
I haven't taken over yet, Frank. Patience. Keep calm for now. Catastrophizing won't help.
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AntsyVee
I haven't taken over yet, Frank. Patience. Keep calm for now. Catastrophizing won't help.
What exactly are you waiting for, old girl? :lac:
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MyNameIsTerry
We've seen some cases. How many of all colours viewed it as ridiculous?
Lots of BAME people in my area. The police would be opening stations on every street.
In my area, the protests have been people of all colors. Whites, Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, other Latinos, blacks, African Americans... My Armenian American neighbors have a BLM sign in their front yard for support. Makes sense, socal only about 30%, non-Hispanic white. The other 70% has background from all over. At least in my area, from what I can see, and from what I've seen on the local news, pretty much everyone believes Floyd was killed by police brutality.
I know there were further protesters in downtown today, but they've all been peaceful so far. Our local police force took a knee with protesters today before they started work.
Who knows, maybe this will turn into a issue that ends up uniting us?
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Pamplemousse
For clarity Terry, I worded it badly: my post should have read "..and we've seen enough reporting in the UK from the US of white people calling the police because someone black has appeared in their neighbourhood."
I'm with you now. Yes, I remember seeing the one where the poor guy was trying to get into his apartment building and a woman confronted him then called the police. Disgraceful behaviour. The police should be slapping charges on such people, the upset they cause warrants some action.
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KK77
What exactly are you waiting for, old girl? :lac:
Sigh. My shipment of nukes still hasn’t come in yet. Damn customs.
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Protestors? Did someone say protestors? I saw three of them running down the street the other day. One of the protestors had a 41" Sony Smart TV. Another protestor had a Kitchen Aid 12 Speed Mixer. And the third protestor had a 16" MacBook Pro. I'm trying to figure out what exactly they were protesting with all that new electronic equipment?
Maybe the high price of electricity?
N.
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Noivous
Protestors? Did someone say protestors? I saw three of them running down the street the other day. One of the protestors had a 41" Sony Smart TV. Another protestor had a Kitchen Aid 12 Speed Mixer. And the third protestor had a 16" MacBook Pro. I'm trying to figure out what exactly they were protesting with all that new electronic equipment?
Maybe the high price of electricity?
N.
Riots are always a good time to go shopping for bargains, N :winks:
I feel sorry for the small businesses. It's bad enough in normal times but right now they are already trying to stay afloat.
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AntsyVee
In my area, the protests have been people of all colors. Whites, Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, other Latinos, blacks, African Americans... My Armenian American neighbors have a BLM sign in their front yard for support. Makes sense, socal only about 30%, non-Hispanic white. The other 70% has background from all over. At least in my area, from what I can see, and from what I've seen on the local news, pretty much everyone believes Floyd was killed by police brutality.
I know there were further protesters in downtown today, but they've all been peaceful so far. Our local police force took a knee with protesters today before they started work.
Who knows, maybe this will turn into a issue that ends up uniting us?
Vee, I hope so. It will only push things further that way I expect.
The trouble is it becoming looked on casually as your mass shootings are. Old news, America again, etc. A massive deal to you guys but to many of us it can end up as apathy watching a country that doesn't change. At least that's an attitude I see loads with any mass shootings now i.e. if they won't sort their gun issue what do they expect?
I think it's great it's a cross community thing so the rest aren't forgotten in this.
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Noivous
Protestors? Did someone say protestors? I saw three of them running down the street the other day. One of the protestors had a 41" Sony Smart TV. Another protestor had a Kitchen Aid 12 Speed Mixer. And the third protestor had a 16" MacBook Pro. I'm trying to figure out what exactly they were protesting with all that new electronic equipment?
Maybe the high price of electricity?
N.
Theres a difference between protesting and looting.
N, do you think that police officer should have put his knee on George Floyd’s neck?
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MyNameIsTerry
Vee, I hope so. It will only push things further that way I expect.
The trouble is it becoming looked on casually as your mass shootings are. Old news, America again, etc. A massive deal to you guys but to many of us it can end up as apathy watching a country that doesn't change. At least that's an attitude I see loads with any mass shootings now i.e. if they won't sort their gun issue what do they expect?
I think it's great it's a cross community thing so the rest aren't forgotten in this.
Yes, tonight, in my area/county at least, the protests were all peaceful. No looting, and many officers took a knee with protesters today. We’ll just have to see how it goes.
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AntsyVee
Theres a difference between protesting and looting.
N, do you think that police officer should have put his knee on George Floyd’s neck?
No.
There is also a difference between protesting and rioting, Vee. MLK, Gandhi, they knew how to protest peacefully and properly...and with great results I might add.
Also, I don't believe police brutality by and large is racially driven. It's more of a power trip problem. How does anyone of us know that this most recent incident was done by someone who has hatred in his heart for blacks. But it's obvious he was on a total out of control power trip. Everyone of us has seen cops abusing their position. Give people a gun a badge and all that authority and a fair amount of them will behave poorly. And most of them don't care what color you are. Certainly there are racist cops...of all colors. There are racist teachers too, and racist librarians, racist house painters....
N.
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I agree that there are racists of all colours in every walk of life.
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AntsyVee
Sigh. My shipment of nukes still hasn’t come in yet. Damn customs.
I have an old water cannon Bozzo gave me in my garage....is that any good? I could have DHL deliver it forthwith :wacko:
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Noivous
No.
There is also a difference between protesting and rioting, Vee. MLK, Gandhi, they knew how to protest peacefully and properly...and with great results I might add.
Also, I don't believe police brutality by and large is racially driven. It's more of a power trip problem. How does anyone of us know that this most recent incident was done by someone who has hatred in his heart for blacks. But it's obvious he was on a total out of control power trip. Everyone of us has seen cops abusing their position. Give people a gun a badge and all that authority and a fair amount of them will behave poorly. And most of them don't care what color you are. Certainly there are racist cops...of all colors. There are racist teachers too, and racist librarians, racist house painters....
N.
Quite right. This is about disproportionate force and abuse of power. But unfortunately divisions in society frequently become toxic after tragic incidents like these - and the US is no exception.
But to add insult to injury, innocent people suffer as a consequence of civil unrest too.
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These "protests" seem to be pre-planned with pallets of bricks just lying there in the streets waiting for the "protesters". Both Floyd and Chauvin reported to be working in the same place previously for many years. Looks to be another staged event pushing the race war and divide and conquer agenda.
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I think a distinction must be made between individual and systemic racism. I agree that racial prejudice exists among all racial/ethnic groups and across all walks of life. Often this manifests in one-on-one interactions. But its effects are cataclysmic when racism against specific groups is condoned and even encouraged by systems and authority figures based on faux notions of racial superiority. Saying that cops in America don't care what color you are when exercising their authority is denying the existence of systemic racism.