Latest info from Korea as some of us had suspected:
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200429000724
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Latest info from Korea as some of us had suspected:
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200429000724
Great news! I knew there had to be an explanation, but it's good to see some solid studies!
What's important to note is a virus will mutate every time it spreads. When it goes from me, to you, it has already mutated in you. So, when you pass it on it's a different virus from before. The virus now in the US may be different from the virus in Korea. I've been watching lectures from Columbia University on Virology. The lecturer has made them free, and he teaches the course for free at the University because no other University delivers a complete virology course.
This course will teach you more about viruses than you can ever learn from media or anywhere else. It's the only complete Virology course on the planet and the only University that teaches the complete course. The lecturer teaches them to students for free. He's employed at the University for different reason, but set up the course to teach everything there is to know about viruses.Quote:
In this first lecture of my 2020 Columbia University virology course, we define viruses, discuss their discovery and fundamental properties, including whether or not they are alive, and explain why they are the most awesome biological entities on Earth.
COVID-19 is also discussed and I think it was part of the reason he made these lectures free. The first is below. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3NhPgOoX4
If this news is true its brilliant the problem is there's so much crap about it people struggle what to believe hopefully all good
best wishes
Yes, a mutation is a change in a virus's code however most mutations don't really change how the virus functions. So even as Covid19 is mutating, immunologists believe that only one strain of the virus exists, which infects cells in the throat and lungs. The fact that this pattern of infection is worldwide could show that Covid19 can't alter itself too much.
Even though everyone's experience of Covid19 is unique, it appears each person is building up their own antibodies against it thus building immunity. What isn't known yet is how long this immunity lasts. The good news is that people who were infected with the other two known Covids, Sars and Mers have gained some immunity so hopefully Covid19 will follow their pattern until a vaccine is created.
Thanks for posting this, Lesley. Good news and ticks off one less concern. With this in mind antibody testing will now be more concrete won't it?
Yes it certainly should, I was reading that several antibody tests have been produced but so far they are variable in accuracy of which infections they can detect, ie they have to be highly sensitive to covid19 only, so they are evolving like finding a vaccine. I should imagine we'll have an accurate antibody test before a vaccine.
The big question is whether you’re infectious or not. It’s all well and good saying an individual is personally safe from the virus but can they still shed infectious virus to others?
It was always almost certain that infection would produce at least short term immunity, but the reason that the W.H.O, amongst others, are nervous at the prospect of antibody testing is because we are still a long way off proving that antibodies fight infection within as well as ensuring an individual is no longer contagious to others.
It’s a good first step, however, to show that individuals are protected to a certain degree. Now they need to start ensuring protected individuals are no longer infectious to others.
[QUOTE=Lencoboy;1945969]I presume you mean a lot of the sad cases who have a habit of getting all cynical and sarky at the slightest hint of any good news. And not just over any potential progress concerning COVID-19
no l mean the press printing crap, it confuses people and isn't helpful to people as to what to believe
best wishes
No Lencoboy please don't apologise you done nothing to be sorry for xx
best wishes
If it's true that you can't get it twice than herd immunity should continue. If not, the lockdown will just prolong until the NHS is able to cope. But, the NHS have hospitals they're not even using so may aswell carry on as normal no?
The problem with that is that if you just allow the virus to rip through the community, you’ll overwhelm the healthcare system.
Yes, you’ll achieve herd immunity much quicker, but the loss of life not only due to the virus itself, but indirectly due to an overwhelmed healthcare system would be unfathomable.
The UK government were actually going for herd immunity, whether they deny it or not, it was said, but imperial college drew up a model that suggested a death toll of 500,000 and, if recall correctly, 1.5 million hospitalisations. You can see why they swiftly changed tactic after that.
Keep in mind there’s an average of about 5000 new cases in the UK every day. That figure is slowly going down but for every day that passes a fair percentage of that 5000 will need hospitalisation.
The new hospitals aren’t needed at this moment but that could easily change literally in a few days. This virus is unpredictable in that regard. Hopefully they do remain empty but it’s better to have them there just in case.
Also it's a good idea to have treatments ready before let it out of the box...
I've read that the higher the viral load, the longer a person is infectious so these people would be in isolation longer until they are symptom free. Generally most are considered non-contagious after 14 days from the onset of symptoms. However, some residual RNA of the virus may remain but it is considered to be not infectious. In the same way viral RNA has been found in the carpets of cruise ships, but is inactive.
It appears that infected people (who have spent 14 days in quarantine) are not passing it on to others in their families afterwards, suggesting that this time frame is accurate.
I presume you mean in terms of attending to your dog's general needs rather than it being affected by anything CV-related.
Strangely, hardly anyone seems to mention CV worries concerning dogs anymore, either the likelihood of the dogs themselves catching the virus, or unwittingly spreading the virus within general environments, unlike earlier on in the pandemic there seemed to be quite a few people on here who were extremely concerned.
Not sure about dogs, but goats and pawpaw fruit have tested positive for covid-19.
Tanzania coronavirus kits raise suspicion after goat and pawpaw test positive
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9501291.html
https://greatgameindia.com/wp-conten...9-Positive.jpg
Damn...Goat curry's off the menu! Always thought it had a little bit of je ne sais quoi to it
This is a very interesting watch. MP Sara Cunial accuses Bill Gates of crimes against humanity. Can anyone tell me more about this lady? Is she credible or the Italian version of Farage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3EE7EMfXc&feature=youtu.be
Ok, so her party: Five Star Movement have the following idelogies:
Populism
Anti-establishment
Anti-globalization
Direct democracy
E-democracy
Environmentalist
Soft Euroscepticism
... so a Farage type group. I had a feeling.
Humanity is one total cluster isn't it? :wacko:
Positive thoughts
We've recently has a couple of cases test a 'weak positive', both were sick a couple of months ago and on further testing, threw up this result. One of these had initially tested negative and was classified as a probable case before testing a 'weak positive' two days ago. The test is picking up remnants of RNA which is not contagious anymore because of the length of time after infection (2 months).
The co-founder of the Five Star Movement, Beppe Grillo, is a former comedian.
That explains a lot Pample :wacko::roflmao:
Here you go - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beppe_Grillo
The party is now led by Luigi di Maio.
The 'Nightingale' hospitals were built in case things went badly awry, and remain on standby - the Government had to be seen to be doing something. However, if it goes badly wrong in the future, my major concern is how you staff them because there's only a finite pool of people qualified to do so.
Finally, someone (in this case a female) with a pair.
Doesn't matter who she is or what political entity she "represents". Research the information she provides, esp Gates and his GAVI foundation (which is responsible for vaccination progs in Africa), Event 201/2030, mRNA vaccines (which is what COVID-19 vaccine will be), quantum tattoos and more.
Hopefully a lot more will be known about treatment and (at the very least) effective management of CV by then in the unfortunate event of a big future relapse. Surely even now a lot more is already known about the virus than this time two months ago when it was all just starting to spiral out of control, but obviously there is still much more work to be done.
Dammit, it looks like I've opened a can of worms here!!
Yes, I'm sure they know more now and it's a work in progress so lots more research to be done. Until there's a vaccine or another country (probably Australia) has control of the virus, our borders will remain closed. I read a report that they'd be closed till the end of the year but who knows on that one.
Before anyone starts getting uptight over our R-rate announcement yesterday, they said it is between 0.7 and 1.0, and it is anything above 1.0 where the risk of CV infection becomes problematic. And they admitted that this is based on data from a couple of weeks ago, and bears no connection to the first stage of relaxation of certain lockdown restrictions (in England) at the start of this week.
Also, it is worth bearing in mind that although newly-recorded CV cases in the UK have edged up very slightly over the past couple of days (and still less than 4000 as of yesterday's count), it may not necessarily be due to the aforementioned relaxing of restrictions (possibly still a bit too early to have a significant impact as yet?), but probably more due to the speedy ramp-up of people being tested for the virus once again.
In addition, the underlying trend (7-day rolling average) of both CV deaths and new CV cases yesterday was still down.
One of the most promising things I've seen to manage this at a late stage is the prevention and management of "cytokine storms".
https://www.newscientist.com/term/cytokine-storm/